Yea.....I'm not too pleased about that. This is what happens when you don't want to accept any feedback from your possible playerbase. The devs make idiotic decisions like this.
Well if you don't have to look at people's names hanging in space over their heads all the time it's very ignorable and tolerable. This is probably why they thought it wouldn't matter that much. As for the game releasing this year I hope it's for real this time. I'll remain skeptical but hopeful that way if it doesn't happen I won't be let down too badly.
Are they doing this because the game is ready , or are they doing it because they are out of money?
Gurantee you it's both running out of time and money. They are kicking it out the door like Ubisoft did to Shadowbane if they actually plan on launching this thing this year.
How manty times did AoC get delayed in testing?? Warhammer the same.. Gods & Heros was cancelled.
There's no way.
I think we can be sure of one thing from Darkfall, They are not "kicking" anyting out the door. They have prooved that they are taking the time that they need, weather you see this as a good or a bad thing i up to you-
Aye its very positive they taking their sweet time making the game as good as they possibly can.
Yea.....I'm not too pleased about that. This is what happens when you don't want to accept any feedback from your possible playerbase. The devs make idiotic decisions like this.
Dont like it either but it wont bother me much ingame since theres no nametags over the players.
It will be almost equally entertaining to watch all the vaportrolls quiet down during beta and actually playing the game
I wonder if Catizone, or what ever his nick at that time is, will /wrists when that happens. We can only hope. After all, his lovechild Age of Mourning is the joke of the industry, even more epic failure than VG and D&L put together
Bit OT here but tell me Cati, were you the CEO of Loudant or just a rapid fanboi?
So...are we finally seeing the end of a long journey ? I'm very happy for the DF dev team and are looking forward to test their game. I'm a little sceptic as to the features of this game as I have (too) high expertations but I'm optimistic the game will be good.
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Stop and think about this for a second - this game has yet to show even ONE core feature in a video working. JUST ONE. And it's launching in 2008?? Where are the videos of siege engines firing on cities and towns? Crafting videos?? Questing videos?? PvE monster videos?? City building videos?? Large scale PvP battles videos??? all of these are non existent. But yet they're launching in 2008??
What do you mean with a "questing video"?? We dont know what we have seen in the videos. It could be PvE and PvP at the same time.
Why you guys still argue with Catizone is beyond me. If you just ignore him and argue with the legitimate posters he would not get his troll food and would eventually get bored and leave. Remember that his posts are deliberately confrontational to bait you into arguing and that's it. This is what trolls do, it's the only reason they are here and if you deny them their food they will move on eventually.
They have prooved that they are taking the time that they need
They haven't proved anything. That's the problem.
Well.. they have at least proved one thing, that they are willingly to work on this game for 7 years.
And beside that? Well.. we have a lot of text, and a few vids.. all the rest you will see by no later than the end of 2008, if it actually will release 2008. And if not.. well, you have new feed for your doubts.
But on the other side.. i never was a huge fan of pr, marketing and hype years before release, so i hadnt much of a problem with the pr of Darkfall.. but with a release within 2008 they should now slowly start with some pr and marketing.
Lanuching in 2008???? Does anyone actually believe this? They haven't even had a public Beta yet with anyone playing it. Most MMORPG's have like 6 months of Beta. There's no way
i think you are thinking of the 'big software company' way of doing things, where they jump to beta early because of publisher/license/financial back imperatives.
DF is made by a small company, using money they raised independently. they can choose to release/test however they like.
Why you guys still argue with Catizone is beyond me. If you just ignore him and argue with the legitimate posters he would not get his troll food and would eventually get bored and leave. Remember that his posts are deliberately confrontational to bait you into arguing and that's it. This is what trolls do, it's the only reason they are here and if you deny them their food they will move on eventually.
Bren
Trolls move on? At the darkfall subforum at mmorpg? You are kidding, right? If i wouldnt knew it better, i would say that trolls have arised from the darkfall subforum at mmorpg, and ever since that trolled around all over the internet.
Stop and think about this for a second - this game has yet to show even ONE core feature in a video working. JUST ONE. And it's launching in 2008?? Where are the videos of siege engines firing on cities and towns? Crafting videos?? Questing videos?? PvE monster videos?? City building videos?? Large scale PvP battles videos??? all of these are non existent. But yet they're launching in 2008??
again - why should they if they don't have to?
whatever happened to developing the best possible game first and then letting players discover how great it is?
personally i don't need a bunch of bullsh1t marketing videos to make me want to play a game.
Originally posted by Draccan People still believe in this darkfall scam???
personally i find it funny that you think the developers have anything at all to gain by falsely claiming to be developing a highly non-commerical hardcore-PVP MMOG.
.. but then you should never underestimate the power of stupidity... just look at religions.
They don't have to but then don't expect people to not call bullshit on the whole thing.
fair enough but why would you think they care if you think it's bullshit?
i think most people have become so used to being spoonfed bullsh1t by game companies/tv advertisements/politicians that they get upset when a company just shuts the f**** up and gets on with developing a great game.
They don't have to but then don't expect people to not call bullshit on the whole thing.
fair enough but why would you think they care if you think it's bullshit?
Because if they showed videos of of of the things they claim are in the game, it would generate tons and tons of free publicity, and generate tons of interest in the game.
The the only logical reason they aren't doing this is because those featurea aren't in the game yet, or they aren't working.
Originally posted by Draccan People still believe in this darkfall scam???
personally i find it funny that you think the developers have anything at all to gain by falsely claiming to be developing a highly non-commerical hardcore-PVP MMOG.
.. but then you should never underestimate the power of stupidity... just look at religions.
wow!
/agree
just wish people would stop saying "OH its a scam! don't read about this MMO! they're going to some how make money off you reading about it! And um... it'll encourage them!....
What?
seriously...
What?
You people are nuts, no one would make a game for 5 years and then right when its about to be released say WHOPS! JUST KIDDIN!
And yes UO2
and Warcraft adventures
Blarg! I say stop flaming and start waiting, maybe it'll be worth the wait.
Why you guys still argue with Catizone is beyond me. If you just ignore him and argue with the legitimate posters he would not get his troll food and would eventually get bored and leave. Remember that his posts are deliberately confrontational to bait you into arguing and that's it. This is what trolls do, it's the only reason they are here and if you deny them their food they will move on eventually.
Bren
Trolls move on? At the darkfall subforum at mmorpg? You are kidding, right? If i wouldnt knew it better, i would say that trolls have arised from the darkfall subforum at mmorpg, and ever since that trolled around all over the internet.
LOL, This may be true as Darkfall has been around almost as long as the Internet. I'll have to think about that one.
This is good news. The question now is how many of the promised features will actually be in on release. Are they doing this because the game is ready , or are they doing it because they are out of money?
These are the 64,000$ dollar type questions, assuming this game does release this year and considering they have made many vague commitments about beta or release over the years before.
How many features might be cut or what condition of quality and stability will the features that are implemented for release be in.
How many potentially disappointing revelations will be made about the true state of the game.
How many more core design principles that the community considered as sacrosanct after constant developer assurances will be revealed to be modified or rejected for release.
How many more pocket pony, universal banks, teleporters, rainbow guild type disclosures will be made before release?
If they are running out of money and are being forced to release, where are they going to get the money to Implement all there promises if the game does not have a feature complete successful launch?
But most important of all how many dedicated fans of Darkfall will continue to support the developers if the reality of what Darkfall will be at release does not match closely there cherished hopes and dreams built up after so many years of waiting.
And if this game really is feature complete and ready for release this year when are we finally going to start seeing the game demonstrated instead of just hearing the developers talking about it.
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People still believe in this darkfall scam???
ROFL
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Well My hunter name is gonna be 69Leet_Sniper69
Yea.....I'm not too pleased about that. This is what happens when you don't want to accept any feedback from your possible playerbase. The devs make idiotic decisions like this.
Bren
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how could it be if there isnt a game like you say ? lol they also said number will be very limited in names
Gurantee you it's both running out of time and money. They are kicking it out the door like Ubisoft did to Shadowbane if they actually plan on launching this thing this year.
How manty times did AoC get delayed in testing?? Warhammer the same.. Gods & Heros was cancelled.
There's no way.
I think we can be sure of one thing from Darkfall, They are not "kicking" anyting out the door. They have prooved that they are taking the time that they need, weather you see this as a good or a bad thing i up to you-
Aye its very positive they taking their sweet time making the game as good as they possibly can.
Wow.. Just wow.
I smell money going short.
Don't get high hopes. Just wait and see if it will be released.
Im no hater. But ive been waiting a couple of years for this game and it's been the same ol' thing all over. This isn't news for me.
The speed of the mole and the power of steel is my weapon
Yea.....I'm not too pleased about that. This is what happens when you don't want to accept any feedback from your possible playerbase. The devs make idiotic decisions like this.
Dont like it either but it wont bother me much ingame since theres no nametags over the players.
It will be almost equally entertaining to watch all the vaportrolls quiet down during beta and actually playing the game
I wonder if Catizone, or what ever his nick at that time is, will /wrists when that happens. We can only hope. After all, his lovechild Age of Mourning is the joke of the industry, even more epic failure than VG and D&L put together
Bit OT here but tell me Cati, were you the CEO of Loudant or just a rapid fanboi?
*sniff* *sniff*... I smell shadowbane 2.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
So...are we finally seeing the end of a long journey ? I'm very happy for the DF dev team and are looking forward to test their game. I'm a little sceptic as to the features of this game as I have (too) high expertations but I'm optimistic the game will be good.
---
And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
What do you mean with a "questing video"?? We dont know what we have seen in the videos. It could be PvE and PvP at the same time.
Just take a look at these two videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuLeQkTj074
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LC0KrZO79g&feature=related
Why you guys still argue with Catizone is beyond me. If you just ignore him and argue with the legitimate posters he would not get his troll food and would eventually get bored and leave. Remember that his posts are deliberately confrontational to bait you into arguing and that's it. This is what trolls do, it's the only reason they are here and if you deny them their food they will move on eventually.
Bren
while(horse==dead)
{
beat();
}
Well.. they have at least proved one thing, that they are willingly to work on this game for 7 years.They haven't proved anything. That's the problem.
And beside that? Well.. we have a lot of text, and a few vids.. all the rest you will see by no later than the end of 2008, if it actually will release 2008. And if not.. well, you have new feed for your doubts.
But on the other side.. i never was a huge fan of pr, marketing and hype years before release, so i hadnt much of a problem with the pr of Darkfall.. but with a release within 2008 they should now slowly start with some pr and marketing.
DF is made by a small company, using money they raised independently. they can choose to release/test however they like.
Trolls move on? At the darkfall subforum at mmorpg? You are kidding, right? If i wouldnt knew it better, i would say that trolls have arised from the darkfall subforum at mmorpg, and ever since that trolled around all over the internet.
whatever happened to developing the best possible game first and then letting players discover how great it is?
personally i don't need a bunch of bullsh1t marketing videos to make me want to play a game.
They don't have to but then don't expect people to not call bullshit on the whole thing.
.. but then you should never underestimate the power of stupidity... just look at religions.
fair enough but why would you think they care if you think it's bullshit?They don't have to but then don't expect people to not call bullshit on the whole thing.
i think most people have become so used to being spoonfed bullsh1t by game companies/tv advertisements/politicians that they get upset when a company just shuts the f**** up and gets on with developing a great game.
fair enough but why would you think they care if you think it's bullshit?They don't have to but then don't expect people to not call bullshit on the whole thing.
Because if they showed videos of of of the things they claim are in the game, it would generate tons and tons of free publicity, and generate tons of interest in the game.
The the only logical reason they aren't doing this is because those featurea aren't in the game yet, or they aren't working.
personally i find it funny that you think the developers have anything at all to gain by falsely claiming to be developing a highly non-commerical hardcore-PVP MMOG... but then you should never underestimate the power of stupidity... just look at religions.
/agree
just wish people would stop saying "OH its a scam! don't read about this MMO! they're going to some how make money off you reading about it! And um... it'll encourage them!....
What?
seriously...
What?
You people are nuts, no one would make a game for 5 years and then right when its about to be released say WHOPS! JUST KIDDIN!
And yes UO2
and Warcraft adventures
Blarg! I say stop flaming and start waiting, maybe it'll be worth the wait.
we will get anotehr video showing some mroe features before release/ play testing so within a few months
Trolls move on? At the darkfall subforum at mmorpg? You are kidding, right? If i wouldnt knew it better, i would say that trolls have arised from the darkfall subforum at mmorpg, and ever since that trolled around all over the internet.
LOL, This may be true as Darkfall has been around almost as long as the Internet.Bren
while(horse==dead)
{
beat();
}
These are the 64,000$ dollar type questions, assuming this game does release this year and considering they have made many vague commitments about beta or release over the years before.
How many features might be cut or what condition of quality and stability will the features that are implemented for release be in.
How many potentially disappointing revelations will be made about the true state of the game.
How many more core design principles that the community considered as sacrosanct after constant developer assurances will be revealed to be modified or rejected for release.
How many more pocket pony, universal banks, teleporters, rainbow guild type disclosures will be made before release?
If they are running out of money and are being forced to release, where are they going to get the money to Implement all there promises if the game does not have a feature complete successful launch?
But most important of all how many dedicated fans of Darkfall will continue to support the developers if the reality of what Darkfall will be at release does not match closely there cherished hopes and dreams built up after so many years of waiting.
And if this game really is feature complete and ready for release this year when are we finally going to start seeing the game demonstrated instead of just hearing the developers talking about it.