Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, and why we died. All that matters is that today, few stood against many doomsayer trolls. Valor pleases you Crom, so grant me this one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then the hell with you!
Be ye well upon your path, for yours and mine shall probably never cross, should they do so, then prepare, for death tends to travel behind me and my enemies before me.
I remember when the OP was on here and everyone kept asking him how much ram he had...ZERO response
Finally today we see his specs...and lets look at that shall we?
The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
2 gigs ram...ok...this is ok...except for the fact you are running Vista...which sucks up 3/4 of that ram for it's own resources...and I saw in your previous post where you showed what was running in the background...and there was the beautiful AERO...sucking up all your resources....
It is also a new system according to your information...and I think you need to have it checked out by a real tech, as my feeling is AoC found something wrong with your computer...and this is true of anyone with issues. The game can be hard enough on your system that it will show you problems that most other games or programs will not see...bad ram, overheating, power supply too weak ...
As to your "facts" about gameplay. There are ZERO facts you can give because the game has not RELEASED.
So, your doom and gloom just makes you look foolish, not intelligent, or willing to be helpful.
I got a deal for you though...simple. I also trolled a game as I felt it was crap...LOTRO, and guess what...no one listened there either....but, I also had real "proof", and on a "released" game...you come back after release of AoC, show us the "proof" you have, then I will listen to you...and may even join you...
For now, from what I have played, I have never been happier about an upcoming MMO...and your "facts" only look like fodder for trolling...
if I remember correctly, FC has stated that spellweaving and siege WILL be in at launch. Just because we didn't get to test them in open beta doesn't mean they won't be in the final product. -_-;
remember you said this. because what you're stating is that items missing in open beta (which nowadays, is nothing more than a combination free trial + server stress test) will be in retail.
i hope aoc does great, i really do.
but um, looking at the games to come out over the past couple of years... i'm really not getting my hopes very high.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Some quotes for you since I know you won't read more than 2 or 3 lines of it:
NOTICE I ADDED THE SECTION FOR KNOWN THINGS NOT IN LAUNCH THAT ARE STILL IN THE WORKS (The real facts about what won't be in since I have no desire to skew information and make the game look better. Please read the site and links provided to inform yourself properly.)
Originally posted by Blog Site
Siege will be availabe at launch. Current test numbers are approx. 200-300. but larger numbers will be usable at launch.
Spellweaving is STILL in the game BUT has been changed to work similar to the melee combo system. By executing a specific sequence of spells, it is possible a Spellweave trigger.
Attempting Spellweaving may have adverse effects of the caster OR his group
Over-eager Spellweavers will NOT go to Hell (If you die via spell-weaving in a raid, you want to be back as soon as possible).
PVP and Basic server statistics will be dispalyed in an online portal, SIMILAR TO THE WORLD OF WARCRAFT ARMORY. This most likely NOT be available at launch.
The current era of the Conan lore is the novel called Hour of the Dragon, by Robert E. Howard. Conan has just become king of Aquilonia. He has a wife, he's actually expecting a child, and in Stygia, his ancient enemy, Thoth-Amon, is stirring and a lot of weird things happening in the world. At the same time, the Vanir are invading, you have the Ku****es invading, and the Picts are invading.
Interview with lead designer talks about a lot of great things that you should listen to sometime so maybe you can get your facts straight and quit lying to everyone including yourself.
WHAT!!! I can't get pissed in the tavern and beat up some guy, or even sit on a chair ....... Geez that's it, cancelling pre-order now j/k :P
Seriously, as long as the game is fun and runs ok who the hell cares? If there are some features that just don't make it in at launch but are added within the 1st six months or so better and more polished than would have been the case then fine. It isn't that long ago that many posts were asking FC to delay release for another six months. Alright so it isn't a full delay but those that wanted it have got a partial delay at any rate.
The main problem with things not being available at release is wether or not they will ever be available aka Horizons, which promised the earth and even had said features printed on the back of the retail box, features that never made it into the game despite many many assurances from the crooks .. err! devs in charge.
If something is worth doing it's worth doing well and if doing it well means we have to wait a bit no problem. Just as long as it does actually appear eventually.
quite honestly, the only truth i want are the hard facts of what sort of bugs and crashes i would have to deal with upon retail release.
all the bells and whistles this game has will be no more impressive than all the bells and whistles on any of the other bazillion fantasy-genre mmos out there.
am i going to be lagged? do i need a brand new $3,000 computer to play and be able to enjoy playing this game? does it have retarded stuff like crashing to the desktop?
i don't care if it's 1% of the players that have that problem, it'll eventually hit everyone if it's an issue. there's been games that had 'falling thru the world' issues for months and months and it only hit a few people; but it didn't always just hit those same few people and when it happened to you, you WERE like "wtf, didn't they fix this stupid crap 8 months ago???"
i can read for myself all the "cool" stuff that will supposedly be in the game by going to their website. that website won't tell me all the bugs and crashes and such that WILL be the major cause of my NOT having fun in a game.
so flame on, fanboi on, all you want...
i do not care how great someone thinks this feature or that feature is, i promise you, most players will be non-plussed by it's supposed awesomeness.
i just want to know how crappily the game plays. i'm not an employee, and i will never be a hardcore "imma play this game no matta what" idiot. i learned to not rush out on opening day before vanguard came out.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
As with any new releasing MMO I will only try it on a free trial. I will not spend any cash before I can try the RELEASED game for myself.
My beef with AOC is more twards certain content like PVP minigames, insta respawn for pvp with no risk, Nudity drawing a very immature base, that sort of thing. Preformance I will not even speculate until there is a released version to judge.
Hey OP, nice post. One thing about MMORPG.com from the first time I ever posted here. This website HATES World of Warcraft. The entire staff of MMORPG.com hates it. One thing about even the fans that post on the website, they were even mocking MMORPG.com for omitting WoW in it's annual award ceremonies. I personally think something happened behind the scense between Blizzard staff and MMORPG.com staff. This site is the premium site on the web were it is not only cool, but expected, for a person to bash WoW, because if you don't you are automatically labelled a troll.
Not true, I'm afraid.
Quite a few of our staffers do like WoW. I think that the OP was a bit misleading in his post. Yes, a thread was deleted, but it was deleted due to an NDA breach and not because of any "bias" (take a look around the AoC forums, you'll find both positive AND negative posts from various users).
As far as WoW goes, while it isn`t the game for me personally, I can certainly see what people like about it and I admire the team from Blizzard for putting it together.
I`m not sure what awards you are talking about, but we haven`t done anything but user voting in quite some time. Where appropriate, WoW was nominated, which is as fara s MMORPG.com staff involvement went.
I remember when the OP was on here and everyone kept asking him how much ram he had...ZERO response Finally today we see his specs...and lets look at that shall we? The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine) 2 gigs ram...ok...this is ok...except for the fact you are running Vista...which sucks up 3/4 of that ram for it's own resources...and I saw in your previous post where you showed what was running in the background...and there was the beautiful AERO...sucking up all your resources.... It is also a new system according to your information...and I think you need to have it checked out by a real tech, as my feeling is AoC found something wrong with your computer...and this is true of anyone with issues. The game can be hard enough on your system that it will show you problems that most other games or programs will not see...bad ram, overheating, power supply too weak ...
Did u actually reread what u just said? AoC found an issue with his computer? 99% of times its the other way around, the pc has issues with a game, bugs are found in the game's software code and fixed. Last i heard games were not used as pc diagnostics. Other programs did that.... My god blind faith can only extent to certain ammount!
What's next? its gonna cure AIDS aftter a couple of months of patching and polishing? Cancer after the year anniversary?
I hope this game does well but talk about missinformation. A game not even released yet is certain to perform better than the pc it is tested on......
quite honestly, the only truth i want are the hard facts of what sort of bugs and crashes i would have to deal with upon retail release. i just want to know how crappily the game plays. i'm not an employee, and i will never be a hardcore "imma play this game no matta what" idiot. i learned to not rush out on opening day before vanguard came out.
before 05/20 launch date,
you will have 3 days of Retail client facts
the Op has not posted any hard facts about the Retail client
Mr. Alanon: I respectfully agree with most or majority of your post on AOC. I have a good system as-well. AMD 6400 am2 duo core 8 gig of ram Nvidia 8800gt 512 xp 64 edition and I always shut off what ever program I got running in the Back ground even my anti virus. An yes I too have those frequent crashes, I also have some buggy screenshots of the game If I knew how to post them here I would.
I personally do not see where the Combat system is all that unigue, I dare say it is one of thier weaker designs in the game. Also, for those that dont know is that their quest design is very much like Kotor 1 and 2. Their character creation is very similar to that of EQ2. Graphics are similar as-well to EQ2.
Funcom is sad to say rushing it out just like they Did with Anarchy on Line :- ( I had hoped that they would have done a great job with Conan, I use to read the comic in the 60's when I was a teen.
But for you Mr Alanon I hope others would follow your suggestion, and no I'm not a troll because I don't agree with the Fanboisof AOC
Your running vista with only 2 gigs of ram. There is your first problem.
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Hey OP, nice post. One thing about MMORPG.com from the first time I ever posted here. This website HATES World of Warcraft. The entire staff of MMORPG.com hates it. One thing about even the fans that post on the website, they were even mocking MMORPG.com for omitting WoW in it's annual award ceremonies. I personally think something happened behind the scense between Blizzard staff and MMORPG.com staff. This site is the premium site on the web were it is not only cool, but expected, for a person to bash WoW, because if you don't you are automatically labelled a troll.
Not true, I'm afraid.
Quite a few of our staffers do like WoW. I think that the OP was a bit misleading in his post. Yes, a thread was deleted, but it was deleted due to an NDA breach and not because of any "bias" (take a look around the AoC forums, you'll find both positive AND negative posts from various users).
As far as WoW goes, while it isn`t the game for me personally, I can certainly see what people like about it and I admire the team from Blizzard for putting it together.
I`m not sure what awards you are talking about, but we haven`t done anything but user voting in quite some time. Where appropriate, WoW was nominated, which is as fara s MMORPG.com staff involvement went.
Damn I always accused MMORPG.com of being bribed by SOE and doing Smedley's bidding by trying to put out our flames of truth. I don't understand how they'd take SOEs bribes but refuse Blizzards, maybe they're just snubbing Blizzard until they pay up? Yes that must be it, you know Stradden sometimes the paranoid are about to be nerfed!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Mr. Alanon: I respectfully agree with most or majority of your post on AOC. I have a good system as-well. AMD 6400 am2 duo core 8 gig of ram Nvidia 8800gt 512 xp 64 edition and I always shut off what ever program I got running in the Back ground even my anti virus. An yes I too have those frequent crashes, I also have some buggy screenshots of the game If I knew how to post them here I would.
I personally do not see where the Combat system is all that unigue, I dare say it is one of thier weaker designs in the game. Also, for those that dont know is that their quest design is very much like Kotor 1 and 2. Their character creation is very similar to that of EQ2. Graphics are similar as-well to EQ2. Funcom is sad to say rushing it out just like they Did with Anarchy on Line :- ( I had hoped that they would have done a great job with Conan, I use to read the comic in the 60's when I was a teen. But for you Mr Alanon I hope others would follow your suggestion, and no I'm not a troll because I don't agree with the Fanboisof AOC
See I just don't understand at all. I am definitely not a fanboy of Age of Conan. (Considering I just decided to play it but have had WAR CE on Preorder since the day you were able to) I haven't had any of these problems people mention. Sure I had lagging here and there before I adjusted my settings but no major problems like these people.
I was getting 35-60 FPS on adjusted high settings ( I turned shadows to only mine, was running around 4xaa, and I turned my view distance down) and my system is fairly middle of the road. I have an AMD 64 X2 4200+ with 4 gigs of PC6400 ram, MSI Nvidia 8800GTS 512mb card (g92 version), 7200 SATA HD, all running on Vista home Premium 64-bit. I played both open beta and closed beta and I never once crashed while actually playing the game. I did crash twice when trying to alt tab back and forth from the game to other things.
My guess is that part of the problems people are having might be cooling related? If they are playing for long periods of time and then having the game crash on them, their system might be getting too hot. I know that happens to my wife's PC (Custom built but in an old HP mini tower case) when playing LOTRO. Personally I have tons of cooling since I have my system in an Antec 900 case. (That case can double as an A/C unit for my office) Also I never play for super long periods of time. So their could be a memory leak that I never encountered.
But overall while playing for 2-3 hours at most during one sitting, I found the quality of the engine to be quite well done. I have some other issues with the game but I am giving it a shot and will try it out and see if it can hold me until WAR comes out and maybe even beyond.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
I remember when the OP was on here and everyone kept asking him how much ram he had...ZERO response Finally today we see his specs...and lets look at that shall we? The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine) 2 gigs ram...ok...this is ok...except for the fact you are running Vista...which sucks up 3/4 of that ram for it's own resources...and I saw in your previous post where you showed what was running in the background...and there was the beautiful AERO...sucking up all your resources.... It is also a new system according to your information...and I think you need to have it checked out by a real tech, as my feeling is AoC found something wrong with your computer...and this is true of anyone with issues. The game can be hard enough on your system that it will show you problems that most other games or programs will not see...bad ram, overheating, power supply too weak ...
Did u actually reread what u just said? AoC found an issue with his computer? 99% of times its the other way around, the pc has issues with a game, bugs are found in the game's software code and fixed. Last i heard games were not used as pc diagnostics. Other programs did that.... My god blind faith can only extent to certain ammount!
What's next? its gonna cure AIDS aftter a couple of months of patching and polishing? Cancer after the year anniversary?
I hope this game does well but talk about missinformation. A game not even released yet is certain to perform better than the pc it is tested on......
Yes...this is correct.
Anamolies in hardware can be found based on the way code accesses the hardware...
Lets take for example the posters previous games were
WoW, EQ2, LOTRO, Oblivion...etc..
And lets say WoW runs good, LOTRO runs good...yet...Oblivion runs slightly stuttery or has frame rate problems. The reason is the way the game access the shaders compared to the other two titles.
As well, EQ2 for example will run on systems with higher CPU speeds, and lets say this game runs well for him, yet LOTRO does not...yet, his system specs meet the capabilities of that title. As the GPU is being driven harder than the CPU in LOTRO, there is a chance he has issues with his video card...
Do you understand this concept?
Ok..so lets check this out...I have 3 systems in house, and one is an E6600 (his CPU), 2 gigs (same amount of ram), and an 8800GTS (he uses a 9800GTX)
This system is also the same OS...Vista..in so many words...almost EXACTLY the same system as the OP
My computer had ZERO issues with AoC...so, if that code was that "messed" up as he kept suggesting, and seeing my setup is almost exact...would it not stand to reason that I would have the same issues?
Now...lets look at this layout, you will note, the difference is the 9800GTX. Hmmm...now maybe...just maybe AoC has driven the video card enough that his card overheated, producing that error in his video card that the other games did not.
And it does not apply to just games...as reported today...Windows XP service pack 3 is affecting AMD processors...and only AMD processors...isn't that odd?...software affecting hardware? Yet, all other hardware is ok...?
As well, it seems to be particular models...Now...at this point it is not know if it is something within the hardware or if it MS fault...but, based on the issue at hand...we can assume MS, as it affects ALL AMD processors..
Understand? My setup...same as the OP, with zero issues...meaning it is probably not the AoC code, but actual hardware problems on his end...if we BOTH had the same issue on the same hardware...it would be code...
No...the OP needs to really check his hardware out...period.
Spell weaving will be in game at launch, this is a fact according to the latest devs information
DX10 will be in at launch, this is a fact according to the latest devs information
Seige battles will be in at launch, this is a fact according to the latest devs information.
I have seen nothing from funcom stating that any of those above will not be in upon release, quite the contrary as the devs stated in a question and answer blog a week or so ago that spellweaving,dx10, the cheetah 2 engine, and seige battles will be in on launch that they were holding them out of beta to give the long time beta testers something new to look forward to. If you can post proof otherwise please do. I didn't read the rest of your post because as far as i'm concerned your first 3 so called facts is a lie and made up.
OP, Your running vista with only 2 gigs of ram. There is your first problem.
This is true. Vista eats practically a gig BY ITSELF. That is half the reason I've stuck with XP. That and I hate the amount of crap you have to put up with everytime you want to do ANYTHING on Vista.
The truth will be out in few days and we will exactly see what ppl like you are all about.
Exactly. The truth will be out in a few days, so why waste time arguing about whether or not a game is good on forums? Let's all just put our crystal balls down and wait and see.
Thats exactly the point. My post is in no way claiming the game is good or bad. Im claiming its not performing on a computer that should be running it - Not on minimum - but on better than whats recommended. Rest doesn't matter. And its not just me.
The point is that players that now are tempted from all directions about pre-ordering the game are not told the whole story. Thats why Im posting this here. It has nothing to do with fanboys or doomsayers. It has to do with the fact that ppl should not buy this game until they are guarantied to be able to run it. Or at least know there is quite a high chance the game wont run - even if they are running a PC that is above what is recommended.
The fanboys of AOC are welcome to buy the game and find out for themselfs. Just like alot of PPL bought lifetime sub for LOTRO before it came out and then found about month later that they didn't like it. But at least that game had minimum performance issues.
Its things like this that Im warning ppl about. Buying something that isn't ready. Why is Funcom pushing for so great Pre- Order package and offers ? Why not show off the game first and proof to us its working. And yet again I remind you that NDA of close beta has not been lifted. It will not be lifted before launch if ever. Why ?
Belive me - I would not spend any kind of effort on this if the game was performing without crashing. And sorry to say but my PC is better than is recommended for the game and I have done absolutly everything to try fix it. There are other ppl talkng about having problems while others say they have no problems. But I dont need to be told after playinjg games and beta testing for past 8 years what I have to do to get a game stable enough to run - even under beta.
To those that say my pc is not good enough to run AOC. Then tell that to Funcom. Ask them to change the RAM needed to 3 or 4 gbs. Ask them to correct the missunderstanding that seems to be up that dual core pcs under 3 ghz can't run the game. Seriously - How naive can ppl be ?
The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
why not use the dual core arguement? the minimum specs that state 3.0ghz is for 1 cpu. have 2 cpus running at 2.4 is well above minimum specs. forinstance i have 4 cpus running at 2.67ghz and when i run the "can i run it" program on nvidia's site for AOC it states it is above recommended specs not below.
Having more than one core means quite alot especially if the program is programmed for multithreading which AOC is, so while he may have a cpu clocked at 2.4 he has two of them so AOC it self will utilize his second core for different threads, effectively you have 2 cpu's daisy chained sharing the load. The same goes for quad cores and yes AOC does take advantage of all 4 cores as they were all used for me during OB.
So funny too see posters with 1 post in total agree with Op, alts anyone?
Anyway Op mentioned that he had antivirus running and that shouldn´t affect the performance at all...
Heh, we had raidwipes in WoW because someones antivirus kicked in and they lagged out. Surely that means WoW is a failure and destined to fail?
Anyway I could care less about Age of Conan since it is yet another Fantasy mmorpg. However seeing people throwing dung and posts with alts to make AoC looks bad like if it was a USA presidential campaign is kinda funny. Relax! AoC has its niche and it will not threat your chosen mmorpg. So there is no need for this shit-throwing.
I think we will see much more of this "politics" when Warhammer approaches since it is more of a direct competion to WoW. And when all those millions fanbois starts to post it will really look ugly.
The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
Now - This is a blatant lie. One that is not hard to proof. So plz before you talk such crap then take a sec to get your facts straight
Read the minimum and recomended spec. And note this is OFFICIAL from the makers. Its NOT something you made up.
Minimum System requirements
OS: Windows XP / Windows Vista
GFX: Shader 2.0 and 128MB ram, GeForce 6600
RAM: 1GB
CPU: 3 GHz, Pentium 4
Resolution: 1024x768
Recommended Specs:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2,4 GHz or better
GFX: nVidia GeForce 7900 GTX or higher
RAM: 2 GB
Players are buying this game from offical sites with these info. Now... if the game does't run on Windows Vista with just 2 gb ram - then dont blame my PC for it. Blame the company that is selling the game in pre-order without mentioning that "small" detail.
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Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, and why we died. All that matters is that today, few stood against many doomsayer trolls. Valor pleases you Crom, so grant me this one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then the hell with you!
One persons truth is another persons fantasy.
Be ye well upon your path, for yours and mine shall probably never cross, should they do so, then prepare, for death tends to travel behind me and my enemies before me.
I remember when the OP was on here and everyone kept asking him how much ram he had...ZERO response
Finally today we see his specs...and lets look at that shall we?
The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
2 gigs ram...ok...this is ok...except for the fact you are running Vista...which sucks up 3/4 of that ram for it's own resources...and I saw in your previous post where you showed what was running in the background...and there was the beautiful AERO...sucking up all your resources....
It is also a new system according to your information...and I think you need to have it checked out by a real tech, as my feeling is AoC found something wrong with your computer...and this is true of anyone with issues. The game can be hard enough on your system that it will show you problems that most other games or programs will not see...bad ram, overheating, power supply too weak ...
As to your "facts" about gameplay. There are ZERO facts you can give because the game has not RELEASED.
So, your doom and gloom just makes you look foolish, not intelligent, or willing to be helpful.
I got a deal for you though...simple. I also trolled a game as I felt it was crap...LOTRO, and guess what...no one listened there either....but, I also had real "proof", and on a "released" game...you come back after release of AoC, show us the "proof" you have, then I will listen to you...and may even join you...
For now, from what I have played, I have never been happier about an upcoming MMO...and your "facts" only look like fodder for trolling...
Good luck
remember you said this. because what you're stating is that items missing in open beta (which nowadays, is nothing more than a combination free trial + server stress test) will be in retail.
i hope aoc does great, i really do.
but um, looking at the games to come out over the past couple of years... i'm really not getting my hopes very high.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Blog compiling almost all news around AoC that really are facts and not made up crap from people like you.
blogs.gamersinfo.net/index.php/aoc/2008/04/07/p3126
Some quotes for you since I know you won't read more than 2 or 3 lines of it:
NOTICE I ADDED THE SECTION FOR KNOWN THINGS NOT IN LAUNCH THAT ARE STILL IN THE WORKS (The real facts about what won't be in since I have no desire to skew information and make the game look better. Please read the site and links provided to inform yourself properly.)
Interview with lead designer talks about a lot of great things that you should listen to sometime so maybe you can get your facts straight and quit lying to everyone including yourself.
http://www.uberguilds.org/radio/node/348
WHAT!!! I can't get pissed in the tavern and beat up some guy, or even sit on a chair ....... Geez that's it, cancelling pre-order now j/k :P
Seriously, as long as the game is fun and runs ok who the hell cares? If there are some features that just don't make it in at launch but are added within the 1st six months or so better and more polished than would have been the case then fine. It isn't that long ago that many posts were asking FC to delay release for another six months. Alright so it isn't a full delay but those that wanted it have got a partial delay at any rate.
The main problem with things not being available at release is wether or not they will ever be available aka Horizons, which promised the earth and even had said features printed on the back of the retail box, features that never made it into the game despite many many assurances from the crooks .. err! devs in charge.
If something is worth doing it's worth doing well and if doing it well means we have to wait a bit no problem. Just as long as it does actually appear eventually.
quite honestly, the only truth i want are the hard facts of what sort of bugs and crashes i would have to deal with upon retail release.
all the bells and whistles this game has will be no more impressive than all the bells and whistles on any of the other bazillion fantasy-genre mmos out there.
am i going to be lagged? do i need a brand new $3,000 computer to play and be able to enjoy playing this game? does it have retarded stuff like crashing to the desktop?
i don't care if it's 1% of the players that have that problem, it'll eventually hit everyone if it's an issue. there's been games that had 'falling thru the world' issues for months and months and it only hit a few people; but it didn't always just hit those same few people and when it happened to you, you WERE like "wtf, didn't they fix this stupid crap 8 months ago???"
i can read for myself all the "cool" stuff that will supposedly be in the game by going to their website. that website won't tell me all the bugs and crashes and such that WILL be the major cause of my NOT having fun in a game.
so flame on, fanboi on, all you want...
i do not care how great someone thinks this feature or that feature is, i promise you, most players will be non-plussed by it's supposed awesomeness.
i just want to know how crappily the game plays. i'm not an employee, and i will never be a hardcore "imma play this game no matta what" idiot. i learned to not rush out on opening day before vanguard came out.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
As with any new releasing MMO I will only try it on a free trial. I will not spend any cash before I can try the RELEASED game for myself.
My beef with AOC is more twards certain content like PVP minigames, insta respawn for pvp with no risk, Nudity drawing a very immature base, that sort of thing. Preformance I will not even speculate until there is a released version to judge.
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Quite a few of our staffers do like WoW. I think that the OP was a bit misleading in his post. Yes, a thread was deleted, but it was deleted due to an NDA breach and not because of any "bias" (take a look around the AoC forums, you'll find both positive AND negative posts from various users).
As far as WoW goes, while it isn`t the game for me personally, I can certainly see what people like about it and I admire the team from Blizzard for putting it together.
I`m not sure what awards you are talking about, but we haven`t done anything but user voting in quite some time. Where appropriate, WoW was nominated, which is as fara s MMORPG.com staff involvement went.
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Did u actually reread what u just said? AoC found an issue with his computer? 99% of times its the other way around, the pc has issues with a game, bugs are found in the game's software code and fixed. Last i heard games were not used as pc diagnostics. Other programs did that.... My god blind faith can only extent to certain ammount!
What's next? its gonna cure AIDS aftter a couple of months of patching and polishing? Cancer after the year anniversary?
I hope this game does well but talk about missinformation. A game not even released yet is certain to perform better than the pc it is tested on......
you will have 3 days of Retail client facts
the Op has not posted any hard facts about the Retail client
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Mr. Alanon: I respectfully agree with most or majority of your post on AOC. I have a good system as-well. AMD 6400 am2 duo core 8 gig of ram Nvidia 8800gt 512 xp 64 edition and I always shut off what ever program I got running in the Back ground even my anti virus. An yes I too have those frequent crashes, I also have some buggy screenshots of the game If I knew how to post them here I would.
I personally do not see where the Combat system is all that unigue, I dare say it is one of thier weaker designs in the game. Also, for those that dont know is that their quest design is very much like Kotor 1 and 2. Their character creation is very similar to that of EQ2. Graphics are similar as-well to EQ2.
Funcom is sad to say rushing it out just like they Did with Anarchy on Line :- ( I had hoped that they would have done a great job with Conan, I use to read the comic in the 60's when I was a teen.
But for you Mr Alanon I hope others would follow your suggestion, and no I'm not a troll because I don't agree with the Fanboisof AOC
OP,
Your running vista with only 2 gigs of ram. There is your first problem.
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Quite a few of our staffers do like WoW. I think that the OP was a bit misleading in his post. Yes, a thread was deleted, but it was deleted due to an NDA breach and not because of any "bias" (take a look around the AoC forums, you'll find both positive AND negative posts from various users).
As far as WoW goes, while it isn`t the game for me personally, I can certainly see what people like about it and I admire the team from Blizzard for putting it together.
I`m not sure what awards you are talking about, but we haven`t done anything but user voting in quite some time. Where appropriate, WoW was nominated, which is as fara s MMORPG.com staff involvement went.
Damn I always accused MMORPG.com of being bribed by SOE and doing Smedley's bidding by trying to put out our flames of truth. I don't understand how they'd take SOEs bribes but refuse Blizzards, maybe they're just snubbing Blizzard until they pay up? Yes that must be it, you know Stradden sometimes the paranoid are about to be nerfed!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I was getting 35-60 FPS on adjusted high settings ( I turned shadows to only mine, was running around 4xaa, and I turned my view distance down) and my system is fairly middle of the road. I have an AMD 64 X2 4200+ with 4 gigs of PC6400 ram, MSI Nvidia 8800GTS 512mb card (g92 version), 7200 SATA HD, all running on Vista home Premium 64-bit. I played both open beta and closed beta and I never once crashed while actually playing the game. I did crash twice when trying to alt tab back and forth from the game to other things.
My guess is that part of the problems people are having might be cooling related? If they are playing for long periods of time and then having the game crash on them, their system might be getting too hot. I know that happens to my wife's PC (Custom built but in an old HP mini tower case) when playing LOTRO. Personally I have tons of cooling since I have my system in an Antec 900 case. (That case can double as an A/C unit for my office) Also I never play for super long periods of time. So their could be a memory leak that I never encountered.
But overall while playing for 2-3 hours at most during one sitting, I found the quality of the engine to be quite well done. I have some other issues with the game but I am giving it a shot and will try it out and see if it can hold me until WAR comes out and maybe even beyond.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Did u actually reread what u just said? AoC found an issue with his computer? 99% of times its the other way around, the pc has issues with a game, bugs are found in the game's software code and fixed. Last i heard games were not used as pc diagnostics. Other programs did that.... My god blind faith can only extent to certain ammount!
What's next? its gonna cure AIDS aftter a couple of months of patching and polishing? Cancer after the year anniversary?
I hope this game does well but talk about missinformation. A game not even released yet is certain to perform better than the pc it is tested on......
Yes...this is correct.
Anamolies in hardware can be found based on the way code accesses the hardware...
Lets take for example the posters previous games were
WoW, EQ2, LOTRO, Oblivion...etc..
And lets say WoW runs good, LOTRO runs good...yet...Oblivion runs slightly stuttery or has frame rate problems. The reason is the way the game access the shaders compared to the other two titles.
As well, EQ2 for example will run on systems with higher CPU speeds, and lets say this game runs well for him, yet LOTRO does not...yet, his system specs meet the capabilities of that title. As the GPU is being driven harder than the CPU in LOTRO, there is a chance he has issues with his video card...
Do you understand this concept?
Ok..so lets check this out...I have 3 systems in house, and one is an E6600 (his CPU), 2 gigs (same amount of ram), and an 8800GTS (he uses a 9800GTX)
This system is also the same OS...Vista..in so many words...almost EXACTLY the same system as the OP
My computer had ZERO issues with AoC...so, if that code was that "messed" up as he kept suggesting, and seeing my setup is almost exact...would it not stand to reason that I would have the same issues?
Now...lets look at this layout, you will note, the difference is the 9800GTX. Hmmm...now maybe...just maybe AoC has driven the video card enough that his card overheated, producing that error in his video card that the other games did not.
And it does not apply to just games...as reported today...Windows XP service pack 3 is affecting AMD processors...and only AMD processors...isn't that odd?...software affecting hardware? Yet, all other hardware is ok...?
As well, it seems to be particular models...Now...at this point it is not know if it is something within the hardware or if it MS fault...but, based on the issue at hand...we can assume MS, as it affects ALL AMD processors..
Understand? My setup...same as the OP, with zero issues...meaning it is probably not the AoC code, but actual hardware problems on his end...if we BOTH had the same issue on the same hardware...it would be code...
No...the OP needs to really check his hardware out...period.
Thank you
Short statements get read, long ones get skipped.
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you're facts are not facts, post some proof
Spell weaving will be in game at launch, this is a fact according to the latest devs information
DX10 will be in at launch, this is a fact according to the latest devs information
Seige battles will be in at launch, this is a fact according to the latest devs information.
I have seen nothing from funcom stating that any of those above will not be in upon release, quite the contrary as the devs stated in a question and answer blog a week or so ago that spellweaving,dx10, the cheetah 2 engine, and seige battles will be in on launch that they were holding them out of beta to give the long time beta testers something new to look forward to. If you can post proof otherwise please do. I didn't read the rest of your post because as far as i'm concerned your first 3 so called facts is a lie and made up.
This is true. Vista eats practically a gig BY ITSELF. That is half the reason I've stuck with XP. That and I hate the amount of crap you have to put up with everytime you want to do ANYTHING on Vista.
Switch to XP, and watch performance improve.
Reading comprehension helps in these matters...
Exactly. The truth will be out in a few days, so why waste time arguing about whether or not a game is good on forums? Let's all just put our crystal balls down and wait and see.
Thats exactly the point. My post is in no way claiming the game is good or bad. Im claiming its not performing on a computer that should be running it - Not on minimum - but on better than whats recommended. Rest doesn't matter. And its not just me.
The point is that players that now are tempted from all directions about pre-ordering the game are not told the whole story. Thats why Im posting this here. It has nothing to do with fanboys or doomsayers. It has to do with the fact that ppl should not buy this game until they are guarantied to be able to run it. Or at least know there is quite a high chance the game wont run - even if they are running a PC that is above what is recommended.
The fanboys of AOC are welcome to buy the game and find out for themselfs. Just like alot of PPL bought lifetime sub for LOTRO before it came out and then found about month later that they didn't like it. But at least that game had minimum performance issues.
Its things like this that Im warning ppl about. Buying something that isn't ready. Why is Funcom pushing for so great Pre- Order package and offers ? Why not show off the game first and proof to us its working. And yet again I remind you that NDA of close beta has not been lifted. It will not be lifted before launch if ever. Why ?
Belive me - I would not spend any kind of effort on this if the game was performing without crashing. And sorry to say but my PC is better than is recommended for the game and I have done absolutly everything to try fix it. There are other ppl talkng about having problems while others say they have no problems. But I dont need to be told after playinjg games and beta testing for past 8 years what I have to do to get a game stable enough to run - even under beta.
To those that say my pc is not good enough to run AOC. Then tell that to Funcom. Ask them to change the RAM needed to 3 or 4 gbs. Ask them to correct the missunderstanding that seems to be up that dual core pcs under 3 ghz can't run the game. Seriously - How naive can ppl be ?
Having more than one core means quite alot especially if the program is programmed for multithreading which AOC is, so while he may have a cpu clocked at 2.4 he has two of them so AOC it self will utilize his second core for different threads, effectively you have 2 cpu's daisy chained sharing the load. The same goes for quad cores and yes AOC does take advantage of all 4 cores as they were all used for me during OB.
do not preorder any mmo if you are not sure - common sense
for AOC,
you will hear feedback in 5 days from people who did preorder and played early release
I'm not fan but I will be playing early release
I personally doubt that I will be subscribing to AOC but time will tell
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So funny too see posters with 1 post in total agree with Op, alts anyone?
Anyway Op mentioned that he had antivirus running and that shouldn´t affect the performance at all...
Heh, we had raidwipes in WoW because someones antivirus kicked in and they lagged out. Surely that means WoW is a failure and destined to fail?
Anyway I could care less about Age of Conan since it is yet another Fantasy mmorpg. However seeing people throwing dung and posts with alts to make AoC looks bad like if it was a USA presidential campaign is kinda funny. Relax! AoC has its niche and it will not threat your chosen mmorpg. So there is no need for this shit-throwing.
I think we will see much more of this "politics" when Warhammer approaches since it is more of a direct competion to WoW. And when all those millions fanbois starts to post it will really look ugly.
Now - This is a blatant lie. One that is not hard to proof. So plz before you talk such crap then take a sec to get your facts straight
Go to http://www.ageofconan.com/order_UK.html or any other official pre-order site
Read the minimum and recomended spec. And note this is OFFICIAL from the makers. Its NOT something you made up.
Minimum System requirements
Recommended Specs:
Players are buying this game from offical sites with these info. Now... if the game does't run on Windows Vista with just 2 gb ram - then dont blame my PC for it. Blame the company that is selling the game in pre-order without mentioning that "small" detail.