The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
why not use the dual core arguement? the minimum specs that state 3.0ghz is for 1 cpu. have 2 cpus running at 2.4 is well above minimum specs. forinstance i have 4 cpus running at 2.67ghz and when i run the "can i run it" program on nvidia's site for AOC it states it is above recommended specs not below.
Having more than one core means quite alot especially if the program is programmed for multithreading which AOC is, so while he may have a cpu clocked at 2.4 he has two of them so AOC it self will utilize his second core for different threads, effectively you have 2 cpu's daisy chained sharing the load. The same goes for quad cores and yes AOC does take advantage of all 4 cores as they were all used for me during OB.
Correct...but, it had been noted it was not in Open Beta as well, so some code issues were present to spike the CPU's...even though only one was being used according to posts on their main forums.....so, if he waits, a whole new world may open up performance wise...but, he is stating here that the game is a dud due to performance issues...which having almost the same system, I did not have...
It also is of note that spewing doom and gloom BEFORE release is so wrong...really...he needs to get a grip is all.
And the fact dual cores will be working in release, it will be doubly delicious (yep...)
The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
Now - This is a blatant lie. One that is not hard to proof. So plz before you talk such crap then take a sec to get your facts straight
Read the minimum and recomended spec. And note this is OFFICIAL from the makers. Its NOT something you made up.
Minimum System requirements
OS: Windows XP / Windows Vista
GFX: Shader 2.0 and 128MB ram, GeForce 6600
RAM: 1GB
CPU: 3 GHz, Pentium 4
Resolution: 1024x768
Recommended Specs:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2,4 GHz or better
GFX: nVidia GeForce 7900 GTX or higher
RAM: 2 GB
Players are buying this game from offical sites with these info. Now... if the game does't run on Windows Vista with just 2 gb ram - then dont blame my PC for it. Blame the company that is selling the game in pre-order without mentioning that "small" detail.
Thats correct...those are the specs for a "released" game...and not Open Beta, which there had been stated issues with dual Core usage not being enabled..
So, instead...take a moment, go get someone who knows about computers to come look at yours, as it has an issue...and needs to be fixed before release...
And like I said...come AFTER release...then doom and gloom us...k?
I agree with the first post. I tried the beta and found the very long zoning times and crashes very upsetting. i know its a beta but somehow with release coming very soon i thought the game would run a lot better than it does. I am playing the Warhammer beta and it is a lot more polished. My system prolly isnt that good i guess so maybe thats the problem but I play eq2 most of the time on extreme quality except in town or a dungeon. E6400 running 3.2 ghz on a gigabyte ds-3 965 board, 2 gigs buffalo Firestix, and 8800 gts . I tried tweaking and turned off bloom and played on low medium and high settings and it ran better on high than low for me. Isnt a beta a test to find out what works and what doesnt in the game? So if you find a situation where a problem might exist wouldnt it be the thing to do to let others know about it? i am not flaming the game or endorsing it and maybe the release will be better.
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
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The truth will be out in few days and we will exactly see what ppl like you are all about.
Exactly. The truth will be out in a few days, so why waste time arguing about whether or not a game is good on forums? Let's all just put our crystal balls down and wait and see.
Thats exactly the point. My post is in no way claiming the game is good or bad. Im claiming its not performing on a computer that should be running it - Not on minimum - but on better than whats recommended. Rest doesn't matter. And its not just me.
The point is that players that now are tempted from all directions about pre-ordering the game are not told the whole story. Thats why Im posting this here. It has nothing to do with fanboys or doomsayers. It has to do with the fact that ppl should not buy this game until they are guarantied to be able to run it. Or at least know there is quite a high chance the game wont run - even if they are running a PC that is above what is requmented.
No the point is that something is causing the problem. I have an AMD Athlon 4000+ running at 2.4ghz, with 2 gigs RAM, Windows XP and a Geforce 9600GT. I ran the game on medium after the big patch and was getting 30ish fps. I was getting double that in cities. I crashed once total. If I can run the game, you should be able too.
What this means is there is something in certain setups that is causing performance problems. That is part of beta and it is random.
For example, years ago, I had a friend build me a computer. I cannot remember the specs but it was an A-Open MB, ATI card and an AMD processor. The computer ran games great except for DAOC. It would not run it. After playing for 5-10 minutes, it would freeze and lockup. It happened over and over. Now here is the important part and PAY ATTENTION:
Instead of going to forums and posting about the game and bitching about the game and the development company, I contacted Mythic and talked to them about it. We e-mailed and worked for days and come to find out there was something between my MB+video card+DAOC that didn't work. Period - it just didn't. They recommended grabbing an Nvidia card so I did, installed it and never had another problem.
The point is that there is something in your set-up and other people's setups that is random and is causing problems. Its something to do with the way the parts all inter-relate. It could be between Vista and the game, your card and the game, your MB and the game. Who knows?!?! It is random and it is going to take time to figure out.
That is the point of beta! And had you worked with Funcom and the developers and contacted them in-game and repeatedly sought help instead of coming here and making thread after thread and complaining, then maybe you could have solved the problem for yourself and others. And even if you did contact them and work with them, I doubt you spent as much time troubleshooting as you did posting here.
If you want to know why games launch today with poor performance and problems....just look at this example and how beta testers and today no longer testers, just beta tryers.
Something is causing problems - not just for me but for others to. Its beta alright and part of beta is to find those issues and fix them. But just like Hellgate London it has not been solved. Even when we are sending detailed info to Funcom. I said about 3 months ago that if AOC would be crashing cause of memory leaks for one single custimor in reitail - then the game had failed. This is the point. The game IS not ready until performance issues like these are fixed. Saying they will be fixed at somepoint in the near or far future is NOT what ppl should by buying. Cause Memory leak issues are major problems - its not some minor issues that are fixed in last 4 days before launch.
And about anivirus programs since some ppl can't read posts here. I have used Micro trend for past 3 years but I stoped the sub cause AOC didn't support it. And I dont like to leave my PC unprotected for long times. I have however run the game with fresh system and no antivirus programs with exactly same results. So Im sorry to dissapoint you - but its not that.
OFC its something that is causing these problems. Not all are having those but some are. Now - I have repeatedly sent info about this like many others to Funcom. Alot of my suggestions reguarding the gameplay and features have been implemented. But it all comes down to nothing if the game can't run with resonably guaranty cuase of performance issues.
Now you are just spinning this thread to be the exact same as all of your others. You are ignoring the facts that people are posting to prove you are blatantly lying and instead you are just spinning off on what you don't like, or how the game hurt your feelings. You have always been a troll and this is how you have always been on these forums across multiple games. If you want to post false facts about AoC then apologize when they are exposed as lies. Don't revert to posting the same garbage you have in all of your other posts. Including the ones that have been deleted.
Something is causing problems - not just for me but for others to. Its beta alright and part of beta is to find those issues and fix them. But just like Hellgate London it has not been solved. Even when we are sending detailed info to Funcom. I said about 3 months ago that if AOC would be crashing cause of memory leaks for one single custimor in reitail - then the game had failed. This is the point. The game IS not ready until performance issues like these are fixed. Saying they will be fixed at somepoint in the near or far future is NOT what ppl should by buying. Cause Memory leak issues are major problems - its not some minor issues that are fixed in last 4 days before launch.
And about anivirus programs since some ppl can't read posts here. I have used Micro trend for past 3 years but I stoped the sub cause AOC didn't support it. And I dont like to leave my PC unprotected for long times. I have however run the game with fresh system and no antivirus programs with exactly same results. So Im sorry to dissapoint you - but its not that.
OFC its something that is causing these problems. Not all are having those but some are. Now - I have repeatedly sent info about this like many others to Funcom. Alot of my suggestions reguarding the gameplay and features have been implemented. But it all comes down to nothing if the game can't run with resonably guaranty cuase of performance issues.
And this is where your credibility has an issue. How do YOU know it is not fixed..would you care to share that? You say not solved...so, you have played release client?
Memory leak did not exist for me...played one session 4 hours non stop, zero problems...
So, again, how can my system...which is almost exactly like yours (except motherboard and your video card being the next iterations...) run this game in such a "stable" manner...unless...you have a computer problem?
I believe FC has stated that spellweaving and siege warfare are in at launch, all this guys so called facts boil down to is, "AoC beta didn't run on my system, WWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!" Well as Judge Judy once said "Suck it up!". I'll bet it didn't work for a few, I had trouble with the password authentification but worked around it after 5 mins surfing the web and 30 mins fixing it. However the majority had AoC working after the miracle patch (a sarcastic reference made by many nay sayers) did happen and Funcom weren't a bunch of liars (as alledged by same harbingers of doom). I'm getting a bit sick of the same 4-6 people slagging of AoC because, A: Their comp didn't run the Beta. B: They don't like the type of game it is. C: They're crapping their pants in fear their guildmates will leave them alone forever in D&L. Life's a bitch, suck it up!
Hows this after the last patch i was impressed it ran great, but the game was still boring? Is that better?
im confused, he sounds like me when i was 16 and had what it took to silver tongue people onto my side of the fight but didnt have the brains or experience to know what i was talking about lol. 10 years later i can tell you that's not as fun as it sounds while you're typing it.
is this op actually making valid points? or living under a rock and throwing out a nasty thread every now and then?
you forgot to mention bar fights won't be added for the release either, a lot of features won't be added for the first 30-60 days, and 1-2 won't be added for the first 90 days. who cares.
they're confident their game will take atleast 30 days to hit the first point atwhich any of these features becomes useful, excluding people with no jobs.
and to say the fanbois are being quiet is rediculous, this post is a couple weeks late to join the bashtrain, the last week the posts have gone from 75% bad to about 40% bad, and most of the good posts are very good, explaining how the recent patch fixed their problem as tho it never existed.
Also should I mention that since how you're talking and jumping around in your points and comparisons, op, that I personally think you don't know what you're talking about besides a couple things you've read on forums or misconceived on websites.
Also it seems you are taking selective issues and making them into a widespread nightmarish panic scenario. Should I remind you that your problem is most likely part of the smallest minority? Could that explain why FunCom ignored you? You can be guaranteed if you emailed them explaining your problem, even in the way you talk on these forums, they would still have taken it to the bug team as another report and handed over the information. Standard procedure.
It doesn't matter either way. The game is doing well, the game is coming out soon, the game has enough preorders and fanbase to hold it's own even if it turns out to be mediocre.
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Alan you need to edit your first post the first 3 lines are not facts and have been proven time and time again. I could prove to you now but would be breaking NDA.
Your post is just a cover up for "AoC doesnt work on my PC"
Why dont you come back after trying the released final client + patches. Then see how it runs for you?
So the only fact is that the game runs technically bad for you and it pissed you off. 50 processess is a bit too much though.
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
Im not allowed to post any proofs cause that would be breaking NDA. All I can ask ppl to do is to not jump of on the Pre-Order wagon until you are 110% sure the game is running for you. The rest will come out as soon as game launches in Pre-order wich is just few days away. You wont miss alot not pre-ordering. What I, you and we all should do is to wait until the game is ready - then we pay for it and enjoy it. Its not part of the job subscription as a custimor to sit and hope a company comes up with a fix - weeks or months after you have bought it. We get one free month playing when buying the game. That game should offer trouble free gameplay. Im just pointing out at this point there is a chance custimors wont. And there is nothing wrong with that.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Alan you need to edit your first post the first 3 lines are not facts and have been proven time and time again. I could prove to you now but would be breaking NDA. Your post is just a cover up for "AoC doesnt work on my PC" Why dont you come back after trying the released final client + patches. Then see how it runs for you?
And I would be breaking NDA saying that those features are not in. NOw .. whos right ? Lets wait and see. Im gonna log again and see if I find the spellweaving feature that Funcom has put on video already... I must have missed it somehow.
How many patches are we talking about until I should come back btw ? And how many months ?
Spellweaving will be in Pre-order starting in few days if its in. Until then you only have the words of Funcom it will be in. What I can tell you is that it wasn't implemented in OB. And I think most agreed in the end of OB that it was using the same miracle patch as CB got. Well - its nothing major if 4 whole classes will be launching with untested system. Is it ?
Whether you like or dislike the game it is JUST A GAME. Freaking out over preorders or what is or isn't in the game, or WTF ever is pitiful.
Just wait for launch, play the fucking game, and move on.
NO GAME, none what so ever has launched flawlessly, not even you WoW fanbois game was launched without in some cases, game breaking issues. So please, just shut up and move on.
It's a game, STF up, and move on. Talk about lifeless trolls, geeze.
Games should have same high standard as any other product offered to custimors. We know there are alot of bad products out there. And we also know there have been alot of bad releases of games. We should be asking for certain standard. No-one is asking for anything perfect. But I think its only fair that we ask for what has been promised. Thats all.
Alot of ppl have been burned before on MMO games. Its the games that some ppl take for granted that will launch broken it seems. So how about we set our standards a bit higher ? Sadly pointing out that this or that game wasn't perfect at release will not make AOC any better at relseas. Its a common excuse that developers are now using more and more frequently to throw out unfinished games. Games that still have gamebreaking issues that are said to be fixed l8ter. After ppl have paid for it - and after the first month that is free for playing is over.
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
Im not allowed to post any proofs cause that would be breaking NDA. All I can ask ppl to do is to not jump of on the Pre-Order wagon until you are 110% sure the game is running for you. The rest will come out as soon as game launches in Pre-order wich is just few days away. You wont miss alot not pre-ordering. What I, you and we all should do is to wait until the game is ready - then we pay for it and enjoy it. Its not part of the job subscription as a custimor to sit and hope a company comes up with a fix - weeks or months after you have bought it. We get one free month playing when buying the game. That game should offer trouble free gameplay. Im just pointing out at this point there is a chance custimors wont. And there is nothing wrong with that.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.
First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
Go play your AOC ! My God im sick of this, most people here can't deal with the TRUTH ! If anyone says anything about a game there a troll or a lier ! GO Play the AOC... Im not a fan of any game!.. Sofar there no good game out yet, im geting sick of rushed games that come out broken that promise things and don't deliver anything but hype! In Time the Truth will be told... NDA will be lifted and we shall see the Truth be told. Call me what you like.. I don't fear AOC because, it's JUST another game that's on my list to not play.. Yes i have a new Dell XPS gaming 630.. If i have to twink a comp to play a game after paying $1000s its not worth it.. I hope you find the in AOC.. Graphics don't make a game, game play does!
Maybe you can explain one thing to us , you dont like the game ok sure its your right.
But can all the DOOMsayers here can tell us what they are still doing here on this forum ?
If you dont like AOC just post one time tell us how you fell and then MOVE ON , go find another game WHY are you still posting again and again and again the same crap?
It seems like a lot of poeple are going to play it so let them be....
Did GOD sent you on a mission to bash AOC or something ? Maybe you dont like poeple that dont have the same taste as you do ?
Alan you need to edit your first post the first 3 lines are not facts and have been proven time and time again. I could prove to you now but would be breaking NDA. Your post is just a cover up for "AoC doesnt work on my PC" Why dont you come back after trying the released final client + patches. Then see how it runs for you?
And I would be breaking NDA saying that those features are not in. NOw .. whos right ? Lets wait and see. Im gonna log again and see if I find the spellweaving feature that Funcom has put on video already... I must have missed it somehow.
How many patches are we talking about until I should come back btw ? And how many months ?
Spellweaving will be in Pre-order starting in few days if its in. Until then you only have the words of Funcom it will be in. What I can tell you is that it wasn't implemented in OB. And I think most agreed in the end of OB that it was using the same miracle patch as CB got. Well - its nothing major if 4 whole classes will be launching with untested system. Is it ?
hahhha, wait, you are basing your FACTS on the OB? for a system you don't get till 40? Really? Hmmm, read up some then come back, we get spell weaving when the melee classes get there Q and E combos
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
Im not allowed to post any proofs cause that would be breaking NDA. All I can ask ppl to do is to not jump of on the Pre-Order wagon until you are 110% sure the game is running for you. The rest will come out as soon as game launches in Pre-order wich is just few days away. You wont miss alot not pre-ordering. What I, you and we all should do is to wait until the game is ready - then we pay for it and enjoy it. Its not part of the job subscription as a custimor to sit and hope a company comes up with a fix - weeks or months after you have bought it. We get one free month playing when buying the game. That game should offer trouble free gameplay. Im just pointing out at this point there is a chance custimors wont. And there is nothing wrong with that.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.
First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me. Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA. As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch. Then I hope you see it as well as others. If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.
I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it.
What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario. If you dissagree with me on that one then ok. But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready. It wont change unless we do something about it.
Alan you need to edit your first post the first 3 lines are not facts and have been proven time and time again. I could prove to you now but would be breaking NDA. Your post is just a cover up for "AoC doesnt work on my PC" Why dont you come back after trying the released final client + patches. Then see how it runs for you?
And I would be breaking NDA saying that those features are not in. NOw .. whos right ? Lets wait and see. Im gonna log again and see if I find the spellweaving feature that Funcom has put on video already... I must have missed it somehow.
How many patches are we talking about until I should come back btw ? And how many months ?
Spellweaving will be in Pre-order starting in few days if its in. Until then you only have the words of Funcom it will be in. What I can tell you is that it wasn't implemented in OB. And I think most agreed in the end of OB that it was using the same miracle patch as CB got. Well - its nothing major if 4 whole classes will be launching with untested system. Is it ?
hahhha, wait, you are basing your FACTS on the OB? for a system you don't get till 40? Really? Hmmm, read up some then come back, we get spell weaving when the melee classes get there Q and E combos
Oh really ?
But like I said - It would be breaking NDA. Some ppl should be to 40 before 20th since I heard they are lifting the lvl 20 cap on the Pre-order now. So we see
Also - since we are talking about facts - Can you post the offical info it will start at lvl 40 ? Just so those ppl that get to 40 know what to look forward to.
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
Im not allowed to post any proofs cause that would be breaking NDA. All I can ask ppl to do is to not jump of on the Pre-Order wagon until you are 110% sure the game is running for you. The rest will come out as soon as game launches in Pre-order wich is just few days away. You wont miss alot not pre-ordering. What I, you and we all should do is to wait until the game is ready - then we pay for it and enjoy it. Its not part of the job subscription as a custimor to sit and hope a company comes up with a fix - weeks or months after you have bought it. We get one free month playing when buying the game. That game should offer trouble free gameplay. Im just pointing out at this point there is a chance custimors wont. And there is nothing wrong with that.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.
First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me. Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA. As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch. Then I hope you see it as well as others. If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.
I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it.
What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario. If you dissagree with me on that one then ok. But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready. It wont change unless we do something about it.
Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless
The processor is running at default (E6600 at 2.4) this is a minimum as stated by Funcom, and not "recommended"...3.0Ghz is recommended...and don't throw the "dual core" argument...it is still 2.4 a core, and I dont care who you are...this is a low rating...period. I use an E6600 oc'd to 3Ghz with ZERO issues...(besides 2 other systems all 3 Ghz...and all ran perfectly fine)
why not use the dual core arguement? the minimum specs that state 3.0ghz is for 1 cpu. have 2 cpus running at 2.4 is well above minimum specs. forinstance i have 4 cpus running at 2.67ghz and when i run the "can i run it" program on nvidia's site for AOC it states it is above recommended specs not below.
Having more than one core means quite alot especially if the program is programmed for multithreading which AOC is, so while he may have a cpu clocked at 2.4 he has two of them so AOC it self will utilize his second core for different threads, effectively you have 2 cpu's daisy chained sharing the load. The same goes for quad cores and yes AOC does take advantage of all 4 cores as they were all used for me during OB.
Correct...but, it had been noted it was not in Open Beta as well, so some code issues were present to spike the CPU's...even though only one was being used according to posts on their main forums.....so, if he waits, a whole new world may open up performance wise...but, he is stating here that the game is a dud due to performance issues...which having almost the same system, I did not have...
It also is of note that spewing doom and gloom BEFORE release is so wrong...really...he needs to get a grip is all.
And the fact dual cores will be working in release, it will be doubly delicious (yep...)
i never listen to the doomsayers, i have a system well above recommended spec and did not have the performance i expected but it did perform well enough to play just not to what i expected considering the system i have. 3dmark vantage scores a 12500 for CPU and 7000 for the video and i was only getting around 40FPS, but i don't believe that AOC is fully taking advantage of my SLI setup yet. I expect on release to get atleast 60 plus any more than is a bonus as you don't see much of difference past 60fps anyways.
Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless
There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless. Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable.
Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ?
Whether you like or dislike the game it is JUST A GAME. Freaking out over preorders or what is or isn't in the game, or WTF ever is pitiful.
Just wait for launch, play the fucking game, and move on.
NO GAME, none what so ever has launched flawlessly, not even you WoW fanbois game was launched without in some cases, game breaking issues. So please, just shut up and move on.
It's a game, STF up, and move on. Talk about lifeless trolls, geeze.
Games should have same high standard as any other product offered to custimors. We know there are alot of bad products out there. And we also know there have been alot of bad releases of games. We should be asking for certain standard. No-one is asking for anything perfect. But I think its only fair that we ask for what has been promised. Thats all.
Alot of ppl have been burned before on MMO games. Its the games that some ppl take for granted that will launch broken it seems. So how about we set our standards a bit higher ? Sadly pointing out that this or that game wasn't perfect at release will not make AOC any better at relseas. Its a common excuse that developers are now using more and more frequently to throw out unfinished games. Games that still have gamebreaking issues that are said to be fixed l8ter. After ppl have paid for it - and after the first month that is free for playing is over.
Thats something that noone should support.
nobody should support bad products, HOWEVER
People freaking the fuck out over a videogame is rediculous. That's exactly what people are doing over AoC, they're freaking out.
I've worked in the MMO industry(development), I've worked in the automotive industry, I've worked stocking groceries, tech support for MMOs, cell phones, and satellite services, and I can honestly say in all that time I've NEVER seen people lose cohesion on something quite the way people have been going off on AoC. (I get bored easily, I'm working as a baker right now. Letting my programming degree go to waste)
Now that's not to say people don't get upset and irritated when I delivered a dented car, or told them I need to roll a truck for their satellite, or had to tell them their comp was a pos and couldn't run a certain game or that the engine was limiting development options in the game we were making. BUT NEVER did people freak out.
I'll say it again, GET A GRIP, GET A CLUE, AND STF UP. Grow up, seriously there are more important things to be worrying about than a freaking video game. If you doomsayers were half as smart as you'd like to think you are, wait till a few months after release then try the game. Bitching and crying about it now isn't going to do a damn thing for you. You'll accomplish absolutely nothing. If you want to accomplish something send in bug reports, cause crying about it here accomplishes nothing.
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
Im not allowed to post any proofs cause that would be breaking NDA. All I can ask ppl to do is to not jump of on the Pre-Order wagon until you are 110% sure the game is running for you. The rest will come out as soon as game launches in Pre-order wich is just few days away. You wont miss alot not pre-ordering. What I, you and we all should do is to wait until the game is ready - then we pay for it and enjoy it. Its not part of the job subscription as a custimor to sit and hope a company comes up with a fix - weeks or months after you have bought it. We get one free month playing when buying the game. That game should offer trouble free gameplay. Im just pointing out at this point there is a chance custimors wont. And there is nothing wrong with that.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.
First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me. Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA. As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch. Then I hope you see it as well as others. If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.
I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it.
What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario. If you dissagree with me on that one then ok. But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready. It wont change unless we do something about it.
you don't get spellweaving until lvl 40, so i doubt there's going to be many people hitting that mark the first 3 days to tell you if it's in or not. Only the powerlevels will and they probably won't care about it anyways since they are just there to hit 80 and start ganking.
Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless
There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless. Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable.
Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ?
changing your arguement now?
Wasn't it just "What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario."
And not playable by who? Minus the crash here and there which seemed to disapear with that last patch, i had no true issues at all, nor did most of the guys i game with, tho we also run 3-6 gigs of ram, and would never be dumb enough to try to run vista on anything under 4 gigs
i'll do a fast edit as to not pad my post count, Vist takes up 800mb to 1.2 gigs of ram by itself, AoC takes up 1gb to 1.5 gb itself, run those two togather on 2 gigs of ram, yes, you will be unable to play it. Get more ram
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Having more than one core means quite alot especially if the program is programmed for multithreading which AOC is, so while he may have a cpu clocked at 2.4 he has two of them so AOC it self will utilize his second core for different threads, effectively you have 2 cpu's daisy chained sharing the load. The same goes for quad cores and yes AOC does take advantage of all 4 cores as they were all used for me during OB.
Correct...but, it had been noted it was not in Open Beta as well, so some code issues were present to spike the CPU's...even though only one was being used according to posts on their main forums.....so, if he waits, a whole new world may open up performance wise...but, he is stating here that the game is a dud due to performance issues...which having almost the same system, I did not have...It also is of note that spewing doom and gloom BEFORE release is so wrong...really...he needs to get a grip is all.
And the fact dual cores will be working in release, it will be doubly delicious (yep...)
Now - This is a blatant lie. One that is not hard to proof. So plz before you talk such crap then take a sec to get your facts straight
Go to http://www.ageofconan.com/order_UK.html or any other official pre-order site
Read the minimum and recomended spec. And note this is OFFICIAL from the makers. Its NOT something you made up.
Minimum System requirements
Recommended Specs:
Players are buying this game from offical sites with these info. Now... if the game does't run on Windows Vista with just 2 gb ram - then dont blame my PC for it. Blame the company that is selling the game in pre-order without mentioning that "small" detail.
Thats correct...those are the specs for a "released" game...and not Open Beta, which there had been stated issues with dual Core usage not being enabled..So, instead...take a moment, go get someone who knows about computers to come look at yours, as it has an issue...and needs to be fixed before release...
And like I said...come AFTER release...then doom and gloom us...k?
I agree with the first post. I tried the beta and found the very long zoning times and crashes very upsetting. i know its a beta but somehow with release coming very soon i thought the game would run a lot better than it does. I am playing the Warhammer beta and it is a lot more polished. My system prolly isnt that good i guess so maybe thats the problem but I play eq2 most of the time on extreme quality except in town or a dungeon. E6400 running 3.2 ghz on a gigabyte ds-3 965 board, 2 gigs buffalo Firestix, and 8800 gts . I tried tweaking and turned off bloom and played on low medium and high settings and it ran better on high than low for me. Isnt a beta a test to find out what works and what doesnt in the game? So if you find a situation where a problem might exist wouldnt it be the thing to do to let others know about it? i am not flaming the game or endorsing it and maybe the release will be better.
OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"
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Exactly. The truth will be out in a few days, so why waste time arguing about whether or not a game is good on forums? Let's all just put our crystal balls down and wait and see.
Thats exactly the point. My post is in no way claiming the game is good or bad. Im claiming its not performing on a computer that should be running it - Not on minimum - but on better than whats recommended. Rest doesn't matter. And its not just me.The point is that players that now are tempted from all directions about pre-ordering the game are not told the whole story. Thats why Im posting this here. It has nothing to do with fanboys or doomsayers. It has to do with the fact that ppl should not buy this game until they are guarantied to be able to run it. Or at least know there is quite a high chance the game wont run - even if they are running a PC that is above what is requmented.
No the point is that something is causing the problem. I have an AMD Athlon 4000+ running at 2.4ghz, with 2 gigs RAM, Windows XP and a Geforce 9600GT. I ran the game on medium after the big patch and was getting 30ish fps. I was getting double that in cities. I crashed once total. If I can run the game, you should be able too.What this means is there is something in certain setups that is causing performance problems. That is part of beta and it is random.
For example, years ago, I had a friend build me a computer. I cannot remember the specs but it was an A-Open MB, ATI card and an AMD processor. The computer ran games great except for DAOC. It would not run it. After playing for 5-10 minutes, it would freeze and lockup. It happened over and over. Now here is the important part and PAY ATTENTION:
Instead of going to forums and posting about the game and bitching about the game and the development company, I contacted Mythic and talked to them about it. We e-mailed and worked for days and come to find out there was something between my MB+video card+DAOC that didn't work. Period - it just didn't. They recommended grabbing an Nvidia card so I did, installed it and never had another problem.
The point is that there is something in your set-up and other people's setups that is random and is causing problems. Its something to do with the way the parts all inter-relate. It could be between Vista and the game, your card and the game, your MB and the game. Who knows?!?! It is random and it is going to take time to figure out.
That is the point of beta! And had you worked with Funcom and the developers and contacted them in-game and repeatedly sought help instead of coming here and making thread after thread and complaining, then maybe you could have solved the problem for yourself and others. And even if you did contact them and work with them, I doubt you spent as much time troubleshooting as you did posting here.
If you want to know why games launch today with poor performance and problems....just look at this example and how beta testers and today no longer testers, just beta tryers.
Something is causing problems - not just for me but for others to. Its beta alright and part of beta is to find those issues and fix them. But just like Hellgate London it has not been solved. Even when we are sending detailed info to Funcom. I said about 3 months ago that if AOC would be crashing cause of memory leaks for one single custimor in reitail - then the game had failed. This is the point. The game IS not ready until performance issues like these are fixed. Saying they will be fixed at somepoint in the near or far future is NOT what ppl should by buying. Cause Memory leak issues are major problems - its not some minor issues that are fixed in last 4 days before launch.And about anivirus programs since some ppl can't read posts here. I have used Micro trend for past 3 years but I stoped the sub cause AOC didn't support it. And I dont like to leave my PC unprotected for long times. I have however run the game with fresh system and no antivirus programs with exactly same results. So Im sorry to dissapoint you - but its not that.
OFC its something that is causing these problems. Not all are having those but some are. Now - I have repeatedly sent info about this like many others to Funcom. Alot of my suggestions reguarding the gameplay and features have been implemented. But it all comes down to nothing if the game can't run with resonably guaranty cuase of performance issues.
Now you are just spinning this thread to be the exact same as all of your others. You are ignoring the facts that people are posting to prove you are blatantly lying and instead you are just spinning off on what you don't like, or how the game hurt your feelings. You have always been a troll and this is how you have always been on these forums across multiple games. If you want to post false facts about AoC then apologize when they are exposed as lies. Don't revert to posting the same garbage you have in all of your other posts. Including the ones that have been deleted.
And about anivirus programs since some ppl can't read posts here. I have used Micro trend for past 3 years but I stoped the sub cause AOC didn't support it. And I dont like to leave my PC unprotected for long times. I have however run the game with fresh system and no antivirus programs with exactly same results. So Im sorry to dissapoint you - but its not that.
OFC its something that is causing these problems. Not all are having those but some are. Now - I have repeatedly sent info about this like many others to Funcom. Alot of my suggestions reguarding the gameplay and features have been implemented. But it all comes down to nothing if the game can't run with resonably guaranty cuase of performance issues.
And this is where your credibility has an issue. How do YOU know it is not fixed..would you care to share that? You say not solved...so, you have played release client?Memory leak did not exist for me...played one session 4 hours non stop, zero problems...
So, again, how can my system...which is almost exactly like yours (except motherboard and your video card being the next iterations...) run this game in such a "stable" manner...unless...you have a computer problem?
Good luck getting that taken care of though!
Hows this after the last patch i was impressed it ran great, but the game was still boring? Is that better?
im confused, he sounds like me when i was 16 and had what it took to silver tongue people onto my side of the fight but didnt have the brains or experience to know what i was talking about lol. 10 years later i can tell you that's not as fun as it sounds while you're typing it.
is this op actually making valid points? or living under a rock and throwing out a nasty thread every now and then?
you forgot to mention bar fights won't be added for the release either, a lot of features won't be added for the first 30-60 days, and 1-2 won't be added for the first 90 days. who cares.
they're confident their game will take atleast 30 days to hit the first point atwhich any of these features becomes useful, excluding people with no jobs.
and to say the fanbois are being quiet is rediculous, this post is a couple weeks late to join the bashtrain, the last week the posts have gone from 75% bad to about 40% bad, and most of the good posts are very good, explaining how the recent patch fixed their problem as tho it never existed.
Also should I mention that since how you're talking and jumping around in your points and comparisons, op, that I personally think you don't know what you're talking about besides a couple things you've read on forums or misconceived on websites.
Also it seems you are taking selective issues and making them into a widespread nightmarish panic scenario. Should I remind you that your problem is most likely part of the smallest minority? Could that explain why FunCom ignored you? You can be guaranteed if you emailed them explaining your problem, even in the way you talk on these forums, they would still have taken it to the bug team as another report and handed over the information. Standard procedure.
It doesn't matter either way. The game is doing well, the game is coming out soon, the game has enough preorders and fanbase to hold it's own even if it turns out to be mediocre.
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Alan you need to edit your first post the first 3 lines are not facts and have been proven time and time again. I could prove to you now but would be breaking NDA.
Your post is just a cover up for "AoC doesnt work on my PC"
Why dont you come back after trying the released final client + patches. Then see how it runs for you?
So the only fact is that the game runs technically bad for you and it pissed you off. 50 processess is a bit too much though.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
And I would be breaking NDA saying that those features are not in. NOw .. whos right ? Lets wait and see. Im gonna log again and see if I find the spellweaving feature that Funcom has put on video already... I must have missed it somehow.
How many patches are we talking about until I should come back btw ? And how many months ?
Spellweaving will be in Pre-order starting in few days if its in. Until then you only have the words of Funcom it will be in. What I can tell you is that it wasn't implemented in OB. And I think most agreed in the end of OB that it was using the same miracle patch as CB got. Well - its nothing major if 4 whole classes will be launching with untested system. Is it ?
Alot of ppl have been burned before on MMO games. Its the games that some ppl take for granted that will launch broken it seems. So how about we set our standards a bit higher ? Sadly pointing out that this or that game wasn't perfect at release will not make AOC any better at relseas. Its a common excuse that developers are now using more and more frequently to throw out unfinished games. Games that still have gamebreaking issues that are said to be fixed l8ter. After ppl have paid for it - and after the first month that is free for playing is over.
Thats something that noone should support.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
Maybe you can explain one thing to us , you dont like the game ok sure its your right.
But can all the DOOMsayers here can tell us what they are still doing here on this forum ?
If you dont like AOC just post one time tell us how you fell and then MOVE ON , go find another game WHY are you still posting again and again and again the same crap?
It seems like a lot of poeple are going to play it so let them be....
Did GOD sent you on a mission to bash AOC or something ? Maybe you dont like poeple that dont have the same taste as you do ?
Tell us please I really want to know !!!
And I would be breaking NDA saying that those features are not in. NOw .. whos right ? Lets wait and see. Im gonna log again and see if I find the spellweaving feature that Funcom has put on video already... I must have missed it somehow.
How many patches are we talking about until I should come back btw ? And how many months ?
Spellweaving will be in Pre-order starting in few days if its in. Until then you only have the words of Funcom it will be in. What I can tell you is that it wasn't implemented in OB. And I think most agreed in the end of OB that it was using the same miracle patch as CB got. Well - its nothing major if 4 whole classes will be launching with untested system. Is it ?
hahhha, wait, you are basing your FACTS on the OB? for a system you don't get till 40? Really? Hmmm, read up some then come back, we get spell weaving when the melee classes get there Q and E combos
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me. Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA. As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch. Then I hope you see it as well as others. If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it.
What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario. If you dissagree with me on that one then ok. But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready. It wont change unless we do something about it.
And I would be breaking NDA saying that those features are not in. NOw .. whos right ? Lets wait and see. Im gonna log again and see if I find the spellweaving feature that Funcom has put on video already... I must have missed it somehow.
How many patches are we talking about until I should come back btw ? And how many months ?
Spellweaving will be in Pre-order starting in few days if its in. Until then you only have the words of Funcom it will be in. What I can tell you is that it wasn't implemented in OB. And I think most agreed in the end of OB that it was using the same miracle patch as CB got. Well - its nothing major if 4 whole classes will be launching with untested system. Is it ?
hahhha, wait, you are basing your FACTS on the OB? for a system you don't get till 40? Really? Hmmm, read up some then come back, we get spell weaving when the melee classes get there Q and E combos
Oh really ?
But like I said - It would be breaking NDA. Some ppl should be to 40 before 20th since I heard they are lifting the lvl 20 cap on the Pre-order now. So we see
Also - since we are talking about facts - Can you post the offical info it will start at lvl 40 ? Just so those ppl that get to 40 know what to look forward to.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me. Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA. As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch. Then I hope you see it as well as others. If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it.
What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario. If you dissagree with me on that one then ok. But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready. It wont change unless we do something about it.
Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless
Having more than one core means quite alot especially if the program is programmed for multithreading which AOC is, so while he may have a cpu clocked at 2.4 he has two of them so AOC it self will utilize his second core for different threads, effectively you have 2 cpu's daisy chained sharing the load. The same goes for quad cores and yes AOC does take advantage of all 4 cores as they were all used for me during OB.
Correct...but, it had been noted it was not in Open Beta as well, so some code issues were present to spike the CPU's...even though only one was being used according to posts on their main forums.....so, if he waits, a whole new world may open up performance wise...but, he is stating here that the game is a dud due to performance issues...which having almost the same system, I did not have...It also is of note that spewing doom and gloom BEFORE release is so wrong...really...he needs to get a grip is all.
And the fact dual cores will be working in release, it will be doubly delicious (yep...)
i never listen to the doomsayers, i have a system well above recommended spec and did not have the performance i expected but it did perform well enough to play just not to what i expected considering the system i have. 3dmark vantage scores a 12500 for CPU and 7000 for the video and i was only getting around 40FPS, but i don't believe that AOC is fully taking advantage of my SLI setup yet. I expect on release to get atleast 60 plus any more than is a bonus as you don't see much of difference past 60fps anyways.
Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ?
Alot of ppl have been burned before on MMO games. Its the games that some ppl take for granted that will launch broken it seems. So how about we set our standards a bit higher ? Sadly pointing out that this or that game wasn't perfect at release will not make AOC any better at relseas. Its a common excuse that developers are now using more and more frequently to throw out unfinished games. Games that still have gamebreaking issues that are said to be fixed l8ter. After ppl have paid for it - and after the first month that is free for playing is over.
Thats something that noone should support.
nobody should support bad products, HOWEVERPeople freaking the fuck out over a videogame is rediculous. That's exactly what people are doing over AoC, they're freaking out.
I've worked in the MMO industry(development), I've worked in the automotive industry, I've worked stocking groceries, tech support for MMOs, cell phones, and satellite services, and I can honestly say in all that time I've NEVER seen people lose cohesion on something quite the way people have been going off on AoC. (I get bored easily, I'm working as a baker right now. Letting my programming degree go to waste)
Now that's not to say people don't get upset and irritated when I delivered a dented car, or told them I need to roll a truck for their satellite, or had to tell them their comp was a pos and couldn't run a certain game or that the engine was limiting development options in the game we were making. BUT NEVER did people freak out.
I'll say it again, GET A GRIP, GET A CLUE, AND STF UP. Grow up, seriously there are more important things to be worrying about than a freaking video game. If you doomsayers were half as smart as you'd like to think you are, wait till a few months after release then try the game. Bitching and crying about it now isn't going to do a damn thing for you. You'll accomplish absolutely nothing. If you want to accomplish something send in bug reports, cause crying about it here accomplishes nothing.
Want a taste of religion? Lick a witch.
If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait. What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order. Why? Its just a fair question to ask.
Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer. Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.
It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.
I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me. Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA. As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch. Then I hope you see it as well as others. If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it.
What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario. If you dissagree with me on that one then ok. But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready. It wont change unless we do something about it.
you don't get spellweaving until lvl 40, so i doubt there's going to be many people hitting that mark the first 3 days to tell you if it's in or not. Only the powerlevels will and they probably won't care about it anyways since they are just there to hit 80 and start ganking.
There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless. Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable.Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ?
changing your arguement now?
Wasn't it just "What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario."
And not playable by who? Minus the crash here and there which seemed to disapear with that last patch, i had no true issues at all, nor did most of the guys i game with, tho we also run 3-6 gigs of ram, and would never be dumb enough to try to run vista on anything under 4 gigs
i'll do a fast edit as to not pad my post count, Vist takes up 800mb to 1.2 gigs of ram by itself, AoC takes up 1gb to 1.5 gb itself, run those two togather on 2 gigs of ram, yes, you will be unable to play it. Get more ram