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So, AoC Isn't The Greatest? Then What is?
WiccanCircle
Member Posts: 336
I am curious. It is 72-hours after launch so I can see why people have strong emotions still tied in to games that they have played for thousands of hours, but I read all of these posts about how Age of Conan isn't the greatest and that there are so many better games out there.
Oh Really? 
Where? I would love to play one of those.
Combat? Quests? Equipment? Classes? Graphics? Sound? 
Skills? (strange this is my number one priority in a game yet it is almost never mentioned by most other MMO players, aside from the rediculous mythical quest for 'balance' issues.)
Most of these posts reference some vague 'betterness' elsewhere but leave the specifics to the readers imagination. I am curious, all of the parts of AoC that people, a few hours in to the game, are saying aren't as good as other games - really?
What Games Have Better MMORPG Components?
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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There arent many MMOs that arent instanced and have loading into zones
EQ2... LoTR... Tubula Rasa .. EVE.. WOW.. DaOC
All of them had some form of instances or loading screens .. and the areas which werent were lag traps.
in order..
LOTRO
Vanguard
Everquest
Everquest 2
WoW
EvE .. do you need me to keep going?
Age of Conan is built like a console game, except it doesn't run nearly as good as a console game...
Wow takes the win, great AI (you know they heal, grow larger, chase you around corners stop heal themselves buff themselves etc etc), terrific animations (top of the line if you ask me) and well just overall fun factor IMO. Though everyone complains here and there about WOW (its because they are jealous that its number one and that blizz rocks). The blizz devs are having a field day with this release its a laughing stock to them most likely.
Also Vanguard is much more fun to play lately and runs much better. Though it can use a char and spell overhaul (that should be coming soon I think).
I've seen one review of Age of Conan in a printed magazine yet, and that one gave it 9/10
The best MMO is always yet to come. People have great expectations when it comes to new launches then reality catches up with them. Thing is that MMO aren't that good games at all when you compare to other "real" games - when it comes to combat, graphics, stories and so on. But still those things maybe not count much for you but it always dissapoints someone in one way or another.
I am pretty pleased with AOC as I compare it to recent MMO's I've played (Hellgate, Tabula Rasa, Gods amd heroes beta and Wow) But it's way behind the non-mmo's I've recently been playing (tools of destruction, gears of war, crysis etc)
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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LotrO uses instancing as an additive, the game world is one solid land mass.
if LOTRO, after over a year, had the amount of subs that AOC has after 3 days, it would probably need instancing too.
err all I see is Darkfall, darkfall and err darkfall..... this game is not finished, released or likely to be so. Try again
in order..
LOTRO
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Vanguard
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Everquest
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Everquest 2
[ insert rationalisation here ]
WoW
[ insert rationalisation here ]
EvE
[ insert rationalisation here ]
.. do you need me to keep going?
Age of Conan is built like a console game, except it doesn't run nearly as good as a console game... [ insert rationalisation here ]
I'm not attached to any mmo
-- I usually quit mmos after 3-4 months, then pick them back up again later
I do like AOC but it does not inspire to me subscribe
- the levelling is too fast
- I feel like I'm playing a single player RPG for quest content and exploring
AOC lacks in community
I do see other people but its nothing in comparison to all the past mmos Ive played
I think anyone in a guild will do fine, like any other mmo
but good luck seeing *lots* of strangers in your travels otherwise
I'm level 36 for context
and I've been playing AOC for almost a week (6 days)
EQ2 fan sites
Any unsharded game probably, as they are truly massive. You can interact with any other player who has a sub running. An instanced and sharded game doesn't fit into the "massive" multiplayer part in my opinion.
OK, I have played EQ and EQ2 and LotRO and even played that WoW thing... I can't think of anything that was better in any of those 72-hours in to the game.
I can think of very few things better years in to those games too. AoC is basically WoW at its core. So I am shocked that the WoW fanclub doesn't like it. What do you believe is better about those games? (and comparison of community and extent of content etc. means nothing to a game that has been out a few hours)
Built like a console game? I have never seen a console game anywhere that played like this. Hmm no console anywhere on earth could run this game that I am playing, so moot. Runs better on my system than any xbox-toy could, so moot point for that too.
Once again, I see the same empty attacks against Conan... yes it is instanced (so are the rest of those above) and yes I believe it has too many, but what else...
Be specific.
Or is this the point, specifics make these attack posts fall apart for lack of real honest facts?
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
AoC has one major problem right now. Too many people are judging it on the Tortage content. Essentially, 1/4th the levels in the game are one big, huge, mostly single-player tutorial. Now, it DOES build a sense of story and give the player time to get the hang of the nuances of the fairly complex combat system (compared to say, WoW, anyway...)
But, it also feels lonely and empty if you spend a lot of time on Night Side. And because it's such a long period (and sorry but 20 levels is a lot), it feels like the whole game will be just like Tortage.
Honestly, Funcom shoulda made it ten levels, or even 5. You'd come out with a lot less preparedness, but a better feel for the community.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Your post is not only that of a fan boi, but of a fan boi who is extremely insecure about the implications AoC could have on WoW. Like so many others you have convinced yourself that Blizzard is a great company, I find this hilarious. Blizzard is a terrible company that treats their fan base like crap by updating the game as little as possible and ignoring common knowledge of over all performance, balance, and player needs. Blizzard has set the tone for itself as a company that is so beyond professionalism that they could never be wrong.
Blizzard's latest description of what was to be WoTLK was is a great example of how they are trying to make their game sound more appealing and at the same time offer no real example. WoTLK will do way less sales than BC did because of two reasons.
1. BC was and still is a downgrade from the original WoW content.
2. People saw the bait and switch of BC knowing full well WotLK will have the same problems.
3. Because of 2 mixed with 1 people will have AoC to fall on and not have to put up with Blizzard's bullshit tactics. AoC is a great alternative to WoW and is better.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
AoC has revolutionized MMOs... with its combat and its graphics, but the core, the foundation, AoC's characters and their skills (which for me is the core of a game) are basically WoW/EQ/AC2 in nature.
War? We don't know much about any product, especially games, until they are out of production. I am guessing War is WoW's identical twin.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
.jpg)
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
AoC has revolutionized MMOs... with its combat and its graphics, but the core, the foundation, AoC's characters and their skills (which for me is the core of a game) are basically WoW/EQ/AC2 in nature.
War? We don't know much about any product, especially games, until they are out of production. I am guessing War is WoW's identical twin.
Well if you find the currently fashionable WoW/EQ/AC2 model perfect... and the prime things lacking in today's MMOs graphics and combat...
List the different facets of AoC and I will tell you where you can find it done well. (i.e. Combat/Graphics/PvP)
(excluding fatalities, nudity, and anything else they tossed into the AoC to attract that "certain" playerbase)
STOP WHINING!
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
Actually Tortage is the game's best feature. It quickly goes down hill once you leave
Why can't people just accept that most of this comes down to personal preference. Just because you like game A better than game B, doesn't mean either one is better or worse.
The ONLY way to have a truly unbiased review of a game is to compare its technical specifications, anything else is biased.
I used to like WoW, got very burned out on it though. Played TBC and all of that. I really enjoy AoC now and feel more in control of the character in terms of combat.
The reason these threads always go no where is because there is no valid answer to questions like "Which is the greatest MMO".
You can answer questions like
1. "Which MMO has the best graphics" - AoC
2. "Which MMO has the most subscribers" - WoW
Even 1. is a bit ambiguous, AoC may have the best graphics "technically" in terms of polygons etc, but some players may prefer the graphics in WoW.
The fact of the matter is at the core of it, most MMORPG's are the same - this is exactly what puts them in the genre in the first place. It's the little changes to the core that will attract or detract certain people.
in order..
LOTRO
Vanguard
Everquest
Everquest 2
WoW
EvE .. do you need me to keep going?
Age of Conan is built like a console game, except it doesn't run nearly as good as a console game...
Vanguard?!? Now that's priceless. I really hope I never come across your train of thought. The only game that deserves to be on that list is EQ2... and that's questionable.
a Thread Summarization:
Your Game Sucks, let me tell you why... Commies!
To those feeling instances are the cause of a destruction of immersion: You zone way too much if it's really causing that much of a trouble.
To the people who feel that the game is built like a console game: It was done on purpose. If you don't like it apologies, but the game was created to be an active-MMORPG, not a MMORPG.
Fact: There is no definitive answer to a question which calls for opinion.
Fact: Although when enough opinion is placed together you can form a data trend line, This is a Web-Forum. Not a Sociology Class.
Fact: A game's greatness is not determined by it's subscription numbers, it's features, or it's player base before one month has passed. but by the overall enjoyment of it's playerbase.
in Conclusion: The Greatest MMO ever is Helo Kitty Island Adventures.
Thank you.