Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Then you need some self control. Why would you pay for a product that is extremely sub-standard? The fact that the game is, at best, superficially Star Wars is a very poor reason to support it by paying for it. The only thing accomplished by paying for awful products is ensuring more awful products will be produced. Why should LEC offer you a better Star Wars based MMO when you have shown that you are willing to pay for horrible one?
That is the only thing the current SWG subscribers are accomplishing. They are showing that there is a market for more horrible Star Wars games, even as small as that market currently is.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
lol...if that's the best retort you've got then I know my definition is right.
They have written a song just for you vet-in-exile and all the people who make posts like yours.
So when your entire argument is based on animated gifs and random youtube links don't you think it's time to admit that you lost?
Why admit defeat when there are still idiotic jpegs that could be posted? They could still come back with that asinine owl picture, or that even more asinine crying baby picture. After that they could always go for some ASCII art.
Never underestimate the depths that can be delved when folks run out of convincing arguments.
For a few months ago, (more like 2-3) I reactivated my old account to check what was happening in the swg world. I was in a awesome guild on Kauri and i had my precious character there.
I logged in and.. Nothing.
I saw two or three vets but nothing more. I traveled to Kashyyk to check there. Even the pvp spots. Apparently to afriend you could see a few on mustafar. But yeah,
Then i moved along to Bria. And what did i see? 10-20people standing outside the starport in ME.
Twice as many people in the cantina. I joined a huge guild almost instantly and i got my new character awesome gears and lots of fun. It was a fun month. But im not gonna pay again for the NGE, it was a month of testing anyhow.
And if you are wondering. Im a 2003 vet aswell.
But i know there is a hope for Swg, and it's not because of soe
The speed of the mole and the power of steel is my weapon
The fact that the game is, at best, superficially Star Wars is a very poor reason to support it by paying for it.
Thats interesting considering that the world is exactly the same since you quit playing.
I bet you thought it was Star Wars back then.
So according to your logic, it's barely even Star Wars now since they replaced the skill system with a level system...
Lame argument.
The game was never anything more than just barely superficially Star Wars. The main difference between then and now is that the game used to be fun. Then or now, paying for a game you don't enjoy simply because it is based on Star Wars (or any other IP that folks are a fan of) is a poor reason for doing so.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
Or we could go by the games definition where a Veteran is someone who's been playing SWG for 3months or more
I also find it quite interesting that certain people here feel that based on their personal opinion of the game they can try take the moral high ground and decide what game people are allowed to pay to have fun in. Having a personal opinion is fine, trying to force that opinion on others as fact makes it seem like you're part of a cult
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
Or we could go by the games definition where a Veteran is someone who's been playing SWG for 3months or more
I also find it quite interesting that certain people here feel that based on their personal opinion of the game they can try take the moral high ground and decide what game people are allowed to pay to have fun in. Having a personal opinion is fine, trying to force that opinion on others as fact makes it seem like you're part of a cult
I'm not sure how my asking why a person would pay for a game they hate is the same as telling people what game they are *allowed* to pay for. Then again, it's usually the fanbois who jump to indefensible conclusions to take the focus off their shallow arguments.
It's also nice to see that you and Nikoz have standardized on the animated gif instead of substantive discussion approach to discussion in this forum.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.
It is beyond me that you all cannot understand what I am saying.
I played from the first day, quit approximately a month after the NGE was introduced.
I havn't payed a single fee since I quit, until a few days ago. (Actually my first month is free)
I have now started playing again because i'm over the fact that I don't like the NGE as much as I did Pre-CU. I'm just accepting the game for what it is now, and doing my best to enjoy the game despite memories of Pre-CU and thoughts of the way things used to be.
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.
It is beyond me that you all cannot understand what I am saying.
I played from the first day, quit approximately a month after the NGE was introduced.
I havn't payed a single fee since I quit, until a few days ago. (Actually my first month is free)
I have now started playing again because i'm over the fact that I don't like the NGE as much as I did Pre-CU. I'm just accepting the game for what it is now, and doing my best to enjoy the game despite memories of Pre-CU and thoughts of the way things used to be.
You all? You get one response and it earns a "you all"? Wow, has to be an echo in here.
Now as to answer your post - my issues with your post (not representing the other vets in the forum) are as follows:
"But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu."
Isn't that kinda like saying forget your first wife whose marraige to you was nearly perfect until she died and come to accept the trolop you were forced to marry despite her constant lies and cheating?
so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
I find it almost eerie that this phrase keeps being repeated here when someone is describing the NGE. Isn't too bad? Who eats at a restaurant that fits that description? Would you go on a blind date if your friend told you thats what the woman looked like? Even if it is free - its still a waste of time and only encourages those who would serve you things that "aren't too bad" when they could be better.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
Or we could go by the games definition where a Veteran is someone who's been playing SWG for 3months or more
I also find it quite interesting that certain people here feel that based on their personal opinion of the game they can try take the moral high ground and decide what game people are allowed to pay to have fun in. Having a personal opinion is fine, trying to force that opinion on others as fact makes it seem like you're part of a cult
I'm not sure how my asking why a person would pay for a game they hate is the same as telling people what game they are *allowed* to pay for. Then again, it's usually the fanbois who jump to indefensible conclusions to take the focus off their shallow arguments.
It's also nice to see that you and Nikoz have standardized on the animated gif instead of substantive discussion approach to discussion in this forum.
If the second part was directed at you specifically then I would have used the word "you" rather then "certain people" It was a general statement directed at a number of people in this thread which I tacked onto this reply to save making multiple replies in one thread.
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.
It is beyond me that you all cannot understand what I am saying.
I played from the first day, quit approximately a month after the NGE was introduced.
I havn't payed a single fee since I quit, until a few days ago. (Actually my first month is free)
I have now started playing again because i'm over the fact that I don't like the NGE as much as I did Pre-CU. I'm just accepting the game for what it is now, and doing my best to enjoy the game despite memories of Pre-CU and thoughts of the way things used to be.
You all? You get one response and it earns a "you all"? Wow, has to be an echo in here.
Now as to answer your post - my issues with your post (not representing the other vets in the forum) are as follows:
"But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu."
Isn't that kinda like saying forget your first wife whose marraige to you was nearly perfect until she died and come to accept the trolop you were forced to marry despite her constant lies and cheating?
so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
I find it almost eerie that this phrase keeps being repeated here when someone is describing the NGE. Isn't too bad? Who eats at a restaurant that fits that description? Would you go on a blind date if your friend told you thats what the woman looked like? Even if it is free - its still a waste of time and only encourages those who would serve you things that "aren't too bad" when they could be better.
First of all, English is not my first language and I occasionally mix words up. (Like You and You all) Despite this I manage to get my point across from time to time.
Secondly, I stated that I did not like the NGE as much as the Pre-CU. Yes I did say I hated the NGE, and afterwards corrected myself by saying "Dislike" would have been a lighter and more appropriate word.
Did it ever occur to you that you can dislike one aspect of a game and still enjoy other things about it?
(Also, if you respond please don't do so in metaphors that are entirely irrelevant to the point. We are talking about an online game here, not a wife)
“You all” does not sound like a mistranslation. Sounds more like a simple inclusion of an extra word or the use of another term. As you seem more than well versed in your English - I am simply not buying that excuse. And again, wasn't picking on your language but rather your wolf pack personification of a single response.
Ok, the English part shows perhaps in the use of the word dislike. If one dislikes something, they tend to choose not to be around it. Again, if you dislike food - you don't eat it. If you dislike a movie - you don't watch it. More importantly, if you dislike a game or various aspects of it, you not only do NOT play it - you don't recommend it or offer it as a solution. Real enough examples for you? Tried quite hard to skip the metaphors for you.
And again, if your post(s) indicate that you DISLIKE aspects of the game and that is "isn't all that bad". Yet then you have this post - "But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become." Frankly, all it says to the readers of your post is that you know that you are playing a substandard product, you dislike aspects of it, you know the previous system was better and yet you support the product by playing it. Not exactly a glowing recommendation that will change the masses minds. Stanford’s response arguably represents the typical thoughts that run through the readers’ minds when they read your op.
And lastly, the use of metaphors. The comparison of a game to a wife is not quite a stretch. Do you not spend a healthy amount of time with the game? Or even unhealthy amount of time, at that? Do you not invest money into this virtual relationship? Is there not social gratification in your time spent there? If the game suddenly deleted your character forever - would you not feel loss?
It would seem that you DISLIKE metaphors but from your past posts, I know for a fact that you can live with them. Why, you may even forget about the time where there wasn't any, move past it and accept the posts as they are.
“You all” does not sound like a mistranslation. Sounds more like a simple inclusion of an extra word or the use of another term. As you seem more than well versed in your English - I am simply not buying that excuse. And again, wasn't picking on your language but rather your wolf pack personification of a single response. Ok, the English part shows perhaps in the use of the word dislike. If one dislikes something, they tend to choose not to be around it. Again, if you dislike food - you don't eat it. If you dislike a movie - you don't watch it. More importantly, if you dislike a game or various aspects of it, you not only do NOT play it - you don't recommend it or offer it as a solution. Real enough examples for you? Tried quite hard to skip the metaphors for you. And again, if your post(s) indicate that you DISLIKE aspects of the game and that is "isn't all that bad". Yet then you have this post - "But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become." Frankly, all it says to the readers of your post is that you know that you are playing a substandard product, you dislike aspects of it, you know the previous system was better and yet you support the product by playing it. Not exactly a glowing recommendation that will change the masses minds. Stanford’s response arguably represents the typical thoughts that run through the readers’ minds when they read your op. And lastly, the use of metaphors. The comparison of a game to a wife is not quite a stretch. Do you not spend a healthy amount of time with the game? Or even unhealthy amount of time, at that? Do you not invest money into this virtual relationship? Is there not social gratification in your time spent there? If the game suddenly deleted your character forever - would you not feel loss? It would seem that you DISLIKE metaphors but from your past posts, I know for a fact that you can live with them. Why, you may even forget about the time where there wasn't any, move past it and accept the posts as they are.
Are you seriously comparing a game to a real world relationship???
Obviously if the guy is playing the game there's more he likes about it then he dislikes. Why is that so hard to accept?
“You all” does not sound like a mistranslation. Sounds more like a simple inclusion of an extra word or the use of another term. As you seem more than well versed in your English - I am simply not buying that excuse. And again, wasn't picking on your language but rather your wolf pack personification of a single response. Ok, the English part shows perhaps in the use of the word dislike. If one dislikes something, they tend to choose not to be around it. Again, if you dislike food - you don't eat it. If you dislike a movie - you don't watch it. More importantly, if you dislike a game or various aspects of it, you not only do NOT play it - you don't recommend it or offer it as a solution. Real enough examples for you? Tried quite hard to skip the metaphors for you. And again, if your post(s) indicate that you DISLIKE aspects of the game and that is "isn't all that bad". Yet then you have this post - "But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become." Frankly, all it says to the readers of your post is that you know that you are playing a substandard product, you dislike aspects of it, you know the previous system was better and yet you support the product by playing it. Not exactly a glowing recommendation that will change the masses minds. Stanford’s response arguably represents the typical thoughts that run through the readers’ minds when they read your op. And lastly, the use of metaphors. The comparison of a game to a wife is not quite a stretch. Do you not spend a healthy amount of time with the game? Or even unhealthy amount of time, at that? Do you not invest money into this virtual relationship? Is there not social gratification in your time spent there? If the game suddenly deleted your character forever - would you not feel loss? It would seem that you DISLIKE metaphors but from your past posts, I know for a fact that you can live with them. Why, you may even forget about the time where there wasn't any, move past it and accept the posts as they are.
Are you seriously comparing a game to a real world relationship???
Obviously if the guy is playing the game there's more he likes about it then he dislikes. Why is that so hard to accept?
I think he was trying to make a statement about ingame relationships rather then comparing the actual game to a relationship.
If that is the case then I personally find his points valid and agree with him.
Easy there , Ob. Don't blow a gasket. Nice to see that something works you up and throws you off the straight faced persona you keep here. Suvroc got the gist.
Oh and as for this "Obviously if the guy is playing the game there's more he likes about it then he dislikes. Why is that so hard to accept?"
Exactly where did he say there was more that he likes than dislikes? I am being honest. Perhaps I missed it. Or perhaps he could state and now and then there will be no issue. My point was that by his wording, it indicated it was a lesser product and still played it despite his dislike.
Last thing there, Ob. Your sig shows that you spent 70 hours in SWG this week and 8133 hours lifetime. Next time you get a little antsy about anything being compared to real world - try noting that you spent more than 2 full time jobs in nonreality this week and the equivalent of nearly a year in said state.
Anybody who quit because of the CU or NGE is a SWG vet. Anybody who continues to pay money for it at this point is NGE fanboi.
Using words like "fanboi" does not exactly invite a serious response.
I can tell you want to argue. No thanks. You are not bringing up anything new around here.
And I have never once said I think the level based system is better than the skill based system or that the pre-cu era was not better, it was. The point is I think the game is still - in spite of all - a worthy Star Wars MMO.
In fact this game today still has more freedom and complexity than any other (far more).
Think about it.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
The game was never anything more than just barely superficially Star Wars.
You must not be a big Star Wars nerd.
The game is so incredibly Star Wars it's not even funny. Crack open the Star Wars Encyclopedia or read the novels and comic books or play the old West End PnP RPG games from the 80's (the source books for this RPG were used extensivly by Raph Koster in his design of the game).
The game is overflowing with Expanded Universe continuity.
Hell, it even uses large elements of the Star Wars Holiday Special from 1978, and even a news paper comic-strip from the late 70's and early 80's.
Or what about the Biggs Darklighter family quest and how it ties directly into the comic books, and all this for a character from the original 1977 film who had the vast majority of his scenes cut from the film (he was Luke's best friend on Tatooine).
I'll keep going if you like.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
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I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
lol...if that's the best retort you've got then I know my definition is right.
lol...if that's the best retort you've got then I know my definition is right.
They have written a song just for you vet-in-exile and all the people who make posts like yours.What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
STOP WHINING!
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
lol...if that's the best retort you've got then I know my definition is right.
They have written a song just for you vet-in-exile and all the people who make posts like yours.So when your entire argument is based on animated gifs and random youtube links don't you think it's time to admit that you lost?
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Then you need some self control. Why would you pay for a product that is extremely sub-standard? The fact that the game is, at best, superficially Star Wars is a very poor reason to support it by paying for it. The only thing accomplished by paying for awful products is ensuring more awful products will be produced. Why should LEC offer you a better Star Wars based MMO when you have shown that you are willing to pay for horrible one?
That is the only thing the current SWG subscribers are accomplishing. They are showing that there is a market for more horrible Star Wars games, even as small as that market currently is.
lol...if that's the best retort you've got then I know my definition is right.
They have written a song just for you vet-in-exile and all the people who make posts like yours.So when your entire argument is based on animated gifs and random youtube links don't you think it's time to admit that you lost?
Why admit defeat when there are still idiotic jpegs that could be posted? They could still come back with that asinine owl picture, or that even more asinine crying baby picture. After that they could always go for some ASCII art.
Never underestimate the depths that can be delved when folks run out of convincing arguments.
I can make it rather short and easy.
For a few months ago, (more like 2-3) I reactivated my old account to check what was happening in the swg world. I was in a awesome guild on Kauri and i had my precious character there.
I logged in and.. Nothing.
I saw two or three vets but nothing more. I traveled to Kashyyk to check there. Even the pvp spots. Apparently to afriend you could see a few on mustafar. But yeah,
Then i moved along to Bria. And what did i see? 10-20people standing outside the starport in ME.
Twice as many people in the cantina. I joined a huge guild almost instantly and i got my new character awesome gears and lots of fun. It was a fun month. But im not gonna pay again for the NGE, it was a month of testing anyhow.
And if you are wondering. Im a 2003 vet aswell.
But i know there is a hope for Swg, and it's not because of soe
The speed of the mole and the power of steel is my weapon
I bet you thought it was Star Wars back then.
So according to your logic, it's barely even Star Wars now since they replaced the skill system with a level system...
Lame argument.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
I bet you thought it was Star Wars back then.
So according to your logic, it's barely even Star Wars now since they replaced the skill system with a level system...
Lame argument.
The game was never anything more than just barely superficially Star Wars. The main difference between then and now is that the game used to be fun. Then or now, paying for a game you don't enjoy simply because it is based on Star Wars (or any other IP that folks are a fan of) is a poor reason for doing so.I also find it quite interesting that certain people here feel that based on their personal opinion of the game they can try take the moral high ground and decide what game people are allowed to pay to have fun in. Having a personal opinion is fine, trying to force that opinion on others as fact makes it seem like you're part of a cult
I also find it quite interesting that certain people here feel that based on their personal opinion of the game they can try take the moral high ground and decide what game people are allowed to pay to have fun in. Having a personal opinion is fine, trying to force that opinion on others as fact makes it seem like you're part of a cult
I'm not sure how my asking why a person would pay for a game they hate is the same as telling people what game they are *allowed* to pay for. Then again, it's usually the fanbois who jump to indefensible conclusions to take the focus off their shallow arguments.
It's also nice to see that you and Nikoz have standardized on the animated gif instead of substantive discussion approach to discussion in this forum.
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
STOP WHINING!
What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.What if I quit because of the CU or NGE and despite hating it have started playing again?
Why on earth (and this is a serious question) would you pay for a game that you despise?
I hate the fact that it is no longer the game it once was ( I hate the NGE ).
But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu, so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.It is beyond me that you all cannot understand what I am saying.
I played from the first day, quit approximately a month after the NGE was introduced.
I havn't payed a single fee since I quit, until a few days ago. (Actually my first month is free)
I have now started playing again because i'm over the fact that I don't like the NGE as much as I did Pre-CU. I'm just accepting the game for what it is now, and doing my best to enjoy the game despite memories of Pre-CU and thoughts of the way things used to be.
STOP WHINING!
So in short you resigned. You hate NGE but continue to pay for. In all honest Sir if i need to point to someone as a quitter i will point to your direction.It is beyond me that you all cannot understand what I am saying.
I played from the first day, quit approximately a month after the NGE was introduced.
I havn't payed a single fee since I quit, until a few days ago. (Actually my first month is free)
I have now started playing again because i'm over the fact that I don't like the NGE as much as I did Pre-CU. I'm just accepting the game for what it is now, and doing my best to enjoy the game despite memories of Pre-CU and thoughts of the way things used to be.
You all? You get one response and it earns a "you all"? Wow, has to be an echo in here.
Now as to answer your post - my issues with your post (not representing the other vets in the forum) are as follows:
"But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu."
Isn't that kinda like saying forget your first wife whose marraige to you was nearly perfect until she died and come to accept the trolop you were forced to marry despite her constant lies and cheating?
so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
I find it almost eerie that this phrase keeps being repeated here when someone is describing the NGE. Isn't too bad? Who eats at a restaurant that fits that description? Would you go on a blind date if your friend told you thats what the woman looked like? Even if it is free - its still a waste of time and only encourages those who would serve you things that "aren't too bad" when they could be better.
I also find it quite interesting that certain people here feel that based on their personal opinion of the game they can try take the moral high ground and decide what game people are allowed to pay to have fun in. Having a personal opinion is fine, trying to force that opinion on others as fact makes it seem like you're part of a cult
I'm not sure how my asking why a person would pay for a game they hate is the same as telling people what game they are *allowed* to pay for. Then again, it's usually the fanbois who jump to indefensible conclusions to take the focus off their shallow arguments.
It's also nice to see that you and Nikoz have standardized on the animated gif instead of substantive discussion approach to discussion in this forum.
If the second part was directed at you specifically then I would have used the word "you" rather then "certain people"
It was a general statement directed at a number of people in this thread which I tacked onto this reply to save making multiple replies in one thread.
It is beyond me that you all cannot understand what I am saying.
I played from the first day, quit approximately a month after the NGE was introduced.
I havn't payed a single fee since I quit, until a few days ago. (Actually my first month is free)
I have now started playing again because i'm over the fact that I don't like the NGE as much as I did Pre-CU. I'm just accepting the game for what it is now, and doing my best to enjoy the game despite memories of Pre-CU and thoughts of the way things used to be.
You all? You get one response and it earns a "you all"? Wow, has to be an echo in here.
Now as to answer your post - my issues with your post (not representing the other vets in the forum) are as follows:
"But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become. The more I play the NGE the more I forget about the Pre-Cu."
Isn't that kinda like saying forget your first wife whose marraige to you was nearly perfect until she died and come to accept the trolop you were forced to marry despite her constant lies and cheating?
so it isn't too bad after all. Dislike would have been a better word.
I find it almost eerie that this phrase keeps being repeated here when someone is describing the NGE. Isn't too bad? Who eats at a restaurant that fits that description? Would you go on a blind date if your friend told you thats what the woman looked like? Even if it is free - its still a waste of time and only encourages those who would serve you things that "aren't too bad" when they could be better.
First of all, English is not my first language and I occasionally mix words up. (Like You and You all) Despite this I manage to get my point across from time to time.
Secondly, I stated that I did not like the NGE as much as the Pre-CU. Yes I did say I hated the NGE, and afterwards corrected myself by saying "Dislike" would have been a lighter and more appropriate word.
Did it ever occur to you that you can dislike one aspect of a game and still enjoy other things about it?
(Also, if you respond please don't do so in metaphors that are entirely irrelevant to the point. We are talking about an online game here, not a wife)
STOP WHINING!
“You all” does not sound like a mistranslation. Sounds more like a simple inclusion of an extra word or the use of another term. As you seem more than well versed in your English - I am simply not buying that excuse. And again, wasn't picking on your language but rather your wolf pack personification of a single response.
Ok, the English part shows perhaps in the use of the word dislike. If one dislikes something, they tend to choose not to be around it. Again, if you dislike food - you don't eat it. If you dislike a movie - you don't watch it. More importantly, if you dislike a game or various aspects of it, you not only do NOT play it - you don't recommend it or offer it as a solution. Real enough examples for you? Tried quite hard to skip the metaphors for you.
And again, if your post(s) indicate that you DISLIKE aspects of the game and that is "isn't all that bad". Yet then you have this post - "But sometimes you have to move past that and accept what the game has become." Frankly, all it says to the readers of your post is that you know that you are playing a substandard product, you dislike aspects of it, you know the previous system was better and yet you support the product by playing it. Not exactly a glowing recommendation that will change the masses minds. Stanford’s response arguably represents the typical thoughts that run through the readers’ minds when they read your op.
And lastly, the use of metaphors. The comparison of a game to a wife is not quite a stretch. Do you not spend a healthy amount of time with the game? Or even unhealthy amount of time, at that? Do you not invest money into this virtual relationship? Is there not social gratification in your time spent there? If the game suddenly deleted your character forever - would you not feel loss?
It would seem that you DISLIKE metaphors but from your past posts, I know for a fact that you can live with them. Why, you may even forget about the time where there wasn't any, move past it and accept the posts as they are.
Obviously if the guy is playing the game there's more he likes about it then he dislikes. Why is that so hard to accept?
Obviously if the guy is playing the game there's more he likes about it then he dislikes. Why is that so hard to accept?
I think he was trying to make a statement about ingame relationships rather then comparing the actual game to a relationship.
If that is the case then I personally find his points valid and agree with him.
Easy there , Ob. Don't blow a gasket. Nice to see that something works you up and throws you off the straight faced persona you keep here. Suvroc got the gist.
Oh and as for this "Obviously if the guy is playing the game there's more he likes about it then he dislikes. Why is that so hard to accept?"
Exactly where did he say there was more that he likes than dislikes? I am being honest. Perhaps I missed it. Or perhaps he could state and now and then there will be no issue. My point was that by his wording, it indicated it was a lesser product and still played it despite his dislike.
Last thing there, Ob. Your sig shows that you spent 70 hours in SWG this week and 8133 hours lifetime. Next time you get a little antsy about anything being compared to real world - try noting that you spent more than 2 full time jobs in nonreality this week and the equivalent of nearly a year in said state.
Using words like "fanboi" does not exactly invite a serious response.
I can tell you want to argue. No thanks. You are not bringing up anything new around here.
And I have never once said I think the level based system is better than the skill based system or that the pre-cu era was not better, it was. The point is I think the game is still - in spite of all - a worthy Star Wars MMO.
In fact this game today still has more freedom and complexity than any other (far more).
Think about it.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
You must not be a big Star Wars nerd.
The game is so incredibly Star Wars it's not even funny. Crack open the Star Wars Encyclopedia or read the novels and comic books or play the old West End PnP RPG games from the 80's (the source books for this RPG were used extensivly by Raph Koster in his design of the game).
The game is overflowing with Expanded Universe continuity.
Hell, it even uses large elements of the Star Wars Holiday Special from 1978, and even a news paper comic-strip from the late 70's and early 80's.
Or what about the Biggs Darklighter family quest and how it ties directly into the comic books, and all this for a character from the original 1977 film who had the vast majority of his scenes cut from the film (he was Luke's best friend on Tatooine).
I'll keep going if you like.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.