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I, the Guild Master of a guild with a Full Tier 1 City just got banned

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  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186
    Originally posted by Draccan
     
    You guys are really immature.
    Flaming people for such misfortune!
    This AoC community is the worst I have ever seen for an mmo since 1997 !
     
     

    The AoC community is more or less one and the same as the WoW community for a couple of reasons you could probably determine on your own. Its a much lighter and more pleasant version of WoWs community though.

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  • pingo75pingo75 Member Posts: 29

    Originally posted by Gazenthia


     Its a much lighter and more pleasant version of WoWs community though.
    I also hear grass is much greener on the other side of the fence ...
  • GiggetGigget Member Posts: 129
    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Originally posted by Gigget


    Right.  Sounds like Funcom  did a good job and got rid of you.  A Tier 1 city and over 60 gold in a week?  Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.  Even with 100 peps, it's not possible other than duping.  So, good ridance!!!!

     

     

    You know nothing of the game dude! It is not very hard for 100 people to get 60 gold or a guild city or both. Or even thrice that. It is in fact easy.

    So stop trolling people!

    yah, right, i play the game.  There is no way possible currently in the game, unless you are taking advantage of a broken mechanic/exploit.  Talk about trolling.

  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186
    Originally posted by pingo75


     
    Originally posted by Gazenthia


     Its a much lighter and more pleasant version of WoWs community though.
    I also hear grass is much greener on the other side of the fence ...

     

    I played WoW for years, trust me, this community is still MUCH BETTER than WoW overall. This is probably only due to size, as I implied earlier that the AoC community is predominantly made up of WoW (former or current) players.

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  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186
    Originally posted by Gigget

    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Originally posted by Gigget


    Right.  Sounds like Funcom  did a good job and got rid of you.  A Tier 1 city and over 60 gold in a week?  Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.  Even with 100 peps, it's not possible other than duping.  So, good ridance!!!!

     

     

    You know nothing of the game dude! It is not very hard for 100 people to get 60 gold or a guild city or both. Or even thrice that. It is in fact easy.

    So stop trolling people!

    yah, right, i play the game.  There is no way possible currently in the game, unless you are taking advantage of a broken mechanic/exploit.  Talk about trolling.

    Casual people are able to just scrape up 3g for their mounts at lvl 55 right now, I can see how a hardcore guild with a 100 people at level 80 could scrape together 60g.

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  • DraccanDraccan Member Posts: 1,050

    Originally posted by Gigget

    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Originally posted by Gigget


    Right.  Sounds like Funcom  did a good job and got rid of you.  A Tier 1 city and over 60 gold in a week?  Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.  Even with 100 peps, it's not possible other than duping.  So, good ridance!!!!

     

     

    You know nothing of the game dude! It is not very hard for 100 people to get 60 gold or a guild city or both. Or even thrice that. It is in fact easy.

    So stop trolling people!

    yah, right, i play the game.  There is no way possible currently in the game, unless you are taking advantage of a broken mechanic/exploit.  Talk about trolling.

    That is a lie!

    It is easy to gather about a gold if you level enough and play enough. I have played very casually to level 32 and I have almost half a gold..

    And for the guild it is a small matter...

    So stop trolling and stop giving these lies to people!

     

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  • krackajapkrackajap Member Posts: 238
    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Originally posted by krackajap


     
    Originally posted by Narug


     
    Originally posted by Interitus


     
    And for the AoC community. Wow, what a piece of work. We hear one persons side of the story, and you're ready to lynch them. Even after Funcom says there may have been mistaken bans, you people still insult the OP.  It's so easy to judge, but if you were in that position tell me you wouldn't act the same way.  It was depressing watching the comments degrade from helpful suggestions, and emails to people telling the OP they deserved it.  Now that's community.

    Before we are handed our ceremonial torches and pitchforks I just want to say some things.

     

    I'm not sure if you've been following the OP but they've made a similar post in the general discussion forums of this site.  Yep.  Two threads about the same thing. 

    While that's not the nail in the coffin so to speak it's not the best way to give the impression of innocence either.  Which is why I usually give the benefit of the doubt to officials unless proven otherwise.

    What I'm about to say can go both ways but I will say it nevertheless, "Not everything is at it seems".  Especially if a community is going to be branded.  Just something to think about.

    Edit: Yep forgot to add I'm having trouble finding that second thread now.  Hmm......

    1) No one knows who the fuck he is.

     

    2) No one knows who the fuck The Box is.

    3) No one would know or care if he were banned.

    The only purpose of this thread is to inform the community about what kind of shit Funcom is pulling. 

     

     

    You guys are really immature.

    Flaming people for such misfortune!

    This AoC community is the worst I have ever seen for an mmo since 1997 !

     

     

    I was not being harsh, if you read the thread you can see that i offered my condolences and my wishes that he gets unbanned.  I was merely commenting on the fact that people are calling him out saying how he's just trying to save face after getting caught and how he's just trying to get unbanned.  As i said, no one here knows who he is or would even know he was banned, so what would be the point of trying to save face here?  There is none.  It's just him trying to inform the community about what's going on.

  • grimmbotgrimmbot Member Posts: 302

    Originally posted by krackajap


    I was not being harsh, if you read the thread you can see that i offered my condolences and my wishes that he gets unbanned.  I was merely commenting on the fact that people are calling him out saying how he's just trying to save face after getting caught and how he's just trying to get unbanned.  As i said, no one here knows who he is or would even know he was banned, so what would be the point of trying to save face here?  There is none.  It's just him trying to inform the community about what's going on.

    I feel the same way. It sucks, but there was absolutely no point in posting this thread.

    I'm not going to sit here and go "Gee, I hope you get unbanned!" because for all I know his 100-member guild was actually 30 exploiting members with a bunch of alts and he DID exploit and/or cheat.

    And we can't do jack squat about it, even if we wanted to.

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  • DraccanDraccan Member Posts: 1,050

    Originally posted by krackajap



      It's just him trying to inform the community about what's going on.

    You say that like it is a bad thing

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  • krackajapkrackajap Member Posts: 238
    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Originally posted by krackajap



      It's just him trying to inform the community about what's going on.

     

    You say that like it is a bad thing

    On the contrary i think it's an important thing.  I made a thread about it when the bans started that got lost here someplace.

  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994

    The bottom line is that if a GM observes an issue, say griefer camping and then PVP killing, ban. Short term but toos them off and lock the account for an hour (or whatever period is deemed best).

    If something is 'reported' but not substantiated and the ban accurs because of that...bad business. If a GM sees a pattern and bans an account, they should have submit immediately to someone who can review the logs. If thier database is in any way shape and form up to current standards, they should be able to mine the data and pull all the info they need to confirm right then and there. THEN perma ban.

  • BaselineBaseline Member Posts: 503

    Well, looking at other forums, like AOC source, apparently a lot of other guild masters that have progressed as far or have pooled gold have had their guild leaders banned as well.

  • SmintarSmintar Member UncommonPosts: 214
    Originally posted by Reklaw

    Originally posted by Baseline


    Here's the original - now locked - thead on the AOC boards: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=511052
     
    Me. The Guild Leader of The ßox, on Deathwisper, just got banned very quickly. Basically, a GM just sent a generic PM about exploiting, and kicked me off without answering my inquiry as to why exactly.



    My guild has spent the last week hardcore grinding coin in Keshatta and pooling all coin and resources to me to get our guild city completed with all walls as of just yesterday.



    I had over 60 gold in my inventory today, pooled from our guild of nearly 100 people and friends of the guild, all grinding in raids in Keshatta with us. Yet the GM still banned without a specific explanation.



    The bottom line here, is that Funcom just banned me, the leader of the guild, because a lot of our enemies on the server petitioned in saying I was exploiting, duping, etcetera, and they probably looked at how far we were with the city and how much gold I still had and believed it.



    GG funcom. You said that it's going to be a guild effort to do this. You said that everyone would have to pool their resources to the guild leader and architect (both me) to make the cities / sieging happen. We did that, and you banned the guild leader.



    Not surprising. Other people on the server have had their gold purged and bans have been handed out very quickly to anyone with any real pooled progress.



    Here's a tip funcom, learn to differentiate between Dupers/Exploiters, and people pooling their endless hours of hard work into one person.



    I won't be buying this game again, and you just pissed off about 100+ very vocal people that pooled a lot of resources, time and coin to me. You've also spread a lot of negative publicity about your game for how quickly you ban and  ruin a lot of peoples pooled efforts.



    Interview with Funcom About Recent Player Bans

    Posted: - 30.05.2008



    Recently there have been several player bans in Funcom's new MMOG, Age of Conan. The player community has been asking for details as to what has happened and what players can do if they feel they have been wrongly banned. Today we were able to get the following details from Funcom Senior Customer Service & QA Manager, Mathis.

    Questions by Benjamin J. de la Durantaye, Age of Conan Lead CM, Ten Ton Hammer Answers by Mathis, Senior Customer Service & QA Manager

    You can find the full article here.

     I personally don't blame the players if indeed they did exploit, fact is Funcom or any other mmo decide to put Junk out that is bug ridden shouldnt have a word to say about those players, they had every opprotunity to fix it before launch!! Believe me they knew those bugs were there before launch!!

     

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    Originally posted by Gigget


    Right.  Sounds like Funcom  did a good job and got rid of you.  A Tier 1 city and over 60 gold in a week?  Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.  Even with 100 peps, it's not possible other than duping.  So, good ridance!!!!
    Gidget

    Our guild has twice that amount of Gold. You're going to call us exploiters?

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • babacbabac Member UncommonPosts: 179
    Originally posted by khartman2005


     
    Originally posted by Baseline


    Me. The Guild Leader of The ßox, on Deathwisper, just got banned very quickly. Basically, a GM just sent a generic PM about exploiting, and kicked me off without answering my inquiry as to why exactly.



    My guild has spent the last week hardcore grinding coin in Keshatta and pooling all coin and resources to me to get our guild city completed with all walls as of just yesterday.



    I had over 60 gold in my inventory today, pooled from our guild of nearly 100 people and friends of the guild, all grinding in raids in Keshatta with us. Yet the GM still banned without a specific explanation.



    The bottom line here, is that Funcom just banned me, the leader of the guild, because a lot of our enemies on the server petitioned in saying I was exploiting, duping, etcetera, and they probably looked at how far we were with the city and how much gold I still had and believed it.



    GG funcom. You said that it's going to be a guild effort to do this. You said that everyone would have to pool their resources to the guild leader and architect (both me) to make the cities / sieging happen. We did that, and you banned the guild leader.



    Not surprising. Other people on the server have had their gold purged and bans have been handed out very quickly to anyone with any real pooled progress.



    Here's a tip funcom, learn to differentiate between Dupers/Exploiters, and people pooling their endless hours of hard work into one person.



    I won't be buying this game again, and you just pissed off about 100+ very vocal people that pooled a lot of resources, time and coin to me. You've also spread a lot of negative publicity about your game for how quickly you ban and  ruin a lot of peoples pooled efforts.
    Funcom has the logs of those that exploited, I am sure you and the rest of your guild were exploiting and now your paying the price.

     

    I hate cheaters with a passion and am glad you and your kind are being dealt with.

    QFT

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    you guys are some of the most ignorant people I have ever seen lol

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • BaselineBaseline Member Posts: 503

    Beautiful. All of the low-level nubs that are still Wild Lands of Zeta killing level 30 diseased bears for rough leather decided to take time out to comment with their major experience of raid-grinding with a lot of 60-80's in Keshatta and instances for coin.

    It's like watching the beauty pageant girl on youtube "uh, the Iraq, and umm, uh, stuff, umm".

     

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809

    i agree...most of what i read in this one post alone goes to show that AoC has a really bad community. Personally its easy to tell that the OP didnt exploit, but was banned for just farming. Its so easy for all the jealous people around him to report him for building a city so fast. Another proof is in the AoC forum link that was posted up in this thread. You see other guilds saying they are going to get their T2 city first...so its a race now huh? From that its easy to say that it was another guild that reported the Guild leader because they were mad that he got his city up first. There is no law in AoC stating that if a guild of 100 people wants to work together and mass farm for their city its wrong....how else are you supposed to make one.

    Edit: ya i just checked that server's forums and theres a list of all guilds with a city...appearently The Box was the first guild to complete a T1 city on that server...http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=39288 ya ppl got jealous and reported the GM basically for doing nothing wrong.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Some people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa, and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    Originally posted by khartman2005


     
    Originally posted by Baseline


    Me. The Guild Leader of The ßox, on Deathwisper, just got banned very quickly. Basically, a GM just sent a generic PM about exploiting, and kicked me off without answering my inquiry as to why exactly.



    My guild has spent the last week hardcore grinding coin in Keshatta and pooling all coin and resources to me to get our guild city completed with all walls as of just yesterday.



    I had over 60 gold in my inventory today, pooled from our guild of nearly 100 people and friends of the guild, all grinding in raids in Keshatta with us. Yet the GM still banned without a specific explanation.



    The bottom line here, is that Funcom just banned me, the leader of the guild, because a lot of our enemies on the server petitioned in saying I was exploiting, duping, etcetera, and they probably looked at how far we were with the city and how much gold I still had and believed it.



    GG funcom. You said that it's going to be a guild effort to do this. You said that everyone would have to pool their resources to the guild leader and architect (both me) to make the cities / sieging happen. We did that, and you banned the guild leader.



    Not surprising. Other people on the server have had their gold purged and bans have been handed out very quickly to anyone with any real pooled progress.



    Here's a tip funcom, learn to differentiate between Dupers/Exploiters, and people pooling their endless hours of hard work into one person.



    I won't be buying this game again, and you just pissed off about 100+ very vocal people that pooled a lot of resources, time and coin to me. You've also spread a lot of negative publicity about your game for how quickly you ban and  ruin a lot of peoples pooled efforts.
    Funcom has the logs of those that exploited, I am sure you and the rest of your guild were exploiting and now your paying the price.

     

    I hate cheaters with a passion and am glad you and your kind are being dealt with.

    Wow I thought Spanish Inquisition and Nazis were past. You would have fit there well. And NO I am NOT taking THAT back under any circumstance. Its deeply viscious to sentence ppl like that without a hint of proof. Dispicable.

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  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    Originally posted by Terranah


    Funcom has zero incentive for banning people.  They lose money if they ban your account and they get bad press.  They are standing up for a principle here, something more important than money and that is fairness in game to players who play honestly. 
     
    So I'm sure Funcom feels they have a good reason to ban you and a few others.  The innocent will have their accounts reinstated.  The guilty get what they deserve.
    Maybe if you grow older it is you loose such cheerful trust in such ideas as justice and goodness. Does human history really show us that the evil get what the deserve and those are are punished are guilty? Open you eyes! How can you live in the same world as I do and still trust so blindly in justice of a corporation. Or justice of ANY human? *shakes head*

    Sorry if I sound bitter, but a just solution is more an accident when dealing with corprations. The error is already in the assumption those managment guys and GMs and devs acutally HAVE such a thing as a plan. I dont think thats something Funcom specific, mind you. But such a trust in justice... thats like someone telling Santa Claus will come and make "all things right".

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  • jusomdudejusomdude Member RarePosts: 2,706

    By reading the interview with a Funcom employee, it looks like your account was suspended not banned which kind of makes me question your credability right there.

  • BaldyMikeBaldyMike Member Posts: 65

    ROFLMAO

    I've seen things, you...people, wouldn't believe... . Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion... . I watched C-Beams, glitter in the darkness near the Tannhauser Gate... . All those...moments will be lost in time... . Like...tears...in the rain...
    Time to die.....
    Roy Batty
    Blade Runner

  • BaselineBaseline Member Posts: 503

    Originally posted by jusomdude


    By reading the interview with a Funcom employee, it looks like your account was suspended not banned which kind of makes me question your credability right there.

    Yeah buddy, it says right in the email "PERMANENTLY SUSPENDED".

    What else do you need it to say?

  • NarugNarug Member UncommonPosts: 756

     

    Originally posted by krackajap


     
    1) No one knows who he is.
     
    2) No one knows who the The Box is.
    3) No one would know or care if he were banned.
    The only purpose of this thread is to inform the community about what Funcom is pulling. 
     



    If you want to scroll to page 4 you can see my response before you start using swear words in a reply to me. (Funny how I don't have to use that to get my point across on these boards but others do) 

     

    I said if they're innocent they should recieve compensation for the days they couldn't play.  I doubt that will happen but ah well.  I'm also not going to feel sorry for the guilty if they are found such.  Too many games have legit people been burned on for me to have sympathy for the exploiting and gold selling bunch.

    Since we don't know who this guild and person is all we have to go on are their actions on this board.  This person aroused my suspicions when making another thread about the same topic on the general discussion. (yeah I can't find it anymore which further makes me wonder)

    We don't know what FC did since we won't really have full story unless FC comes out and tells us everything.  So we can't definitively say FC or the accused are pulling one thing one way or another.  If you lean on either side you're still possibly taking part in an inquisition against either side.

    Edit:  Took out the swear words in that quote as they don't lend anything to the discussion

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