I, the Guild Master of a guild with a Full Tier 1 City just got banned

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Because this game sucks, and isn't worth the CD's they burned them to.

Cymdai

While I don't know the details, I will say Funcom is "investigating" all guilds who have completed their Tier 1's.

 

We completed ours a few days ago, and our leader was told that we would be monitored.

 

The sad thing is, we're not exploiting. We're a hardcore guild. When you've got 20 level 80's farming money all day (which, at that level, enemies are dropping 40-65 copper each) it doesn't take that long to handle business.

 

I've seen a few of your members of "The Box", one of the few guilds that aren't full of lame gankers. You'll be missed if you guys have to disband.

bachanam

Originally posted by Baseline


Here's the original - now locked - thead on the AOC boards: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=511052
 
Me. The Guild Leader of The ßox, on Deathwisper, just got banned very quickly. Basically, a GM just sent a generic PM about exploiting, and kicked me off without answering my inquiry as to why exactly.



My guild has spent the last week hardcore grinding coin in Keshatta and pooling all coin and resources to me to get our guild city completed with all walls as of just yesterday.



I had over 60 gold in my inventory today, pooled from our guild of nearly 100 people and friends of the guild, all grinding in raids in Keshatta with us. Yet the GM still banned without a specific explanation.



The bottom line here, is that Funcom just banned me, the leader of the guild, because a lot of our enemies on the server petitioned in saying I was exploiting, duping, etcetera, and they probably looked at how far we were with the city and how much gold I still had and believed it.



GG funcom. You said that it's going to be a guild effort to do this. You said that everyone would have to pool their resources to the guild leader and architect (both me) to make the cities / sieging happen. We did that, and you banned the guild leader.



Not surprising. Other people on the server have had their gold purged and bans have been handed out very quickly to anyone with any real pooled progress.



Here's a tip funcom, learn to differentiate between Dupers/Exploiters, and people pooling their endless hours of hard work into one person.



I won't be buying this game again, and you just pissed off about 100+ very vocal people that pooled a lot of resources, time and coin to me. You've also spread a lot of negative publicity about your game for how quickly you ban and  ruin a lot of peoples pooled efforts.

or maybe you did exploit or were exploiting.

jusomdude

Originally posted by Baseline


 
Originally posted by jusomdude


By reading the interview with a Funcom employee, it looks like your account was suspended not banned which kind of makes me question your credability right there.

 

Yeah buddy, it says right in the email "PERMANENTLY SUSPENDED".

What else do you need it to say?

Your word against theirs, I still take theirs. I would say you could post the e-mail but I actually don't care that much.

Unicorns_Pwn

Originally posted by jusomdude

Originally posted by Baseline


 
Originally posted by jusomdude


By reading the interview with a Funcom employee, it looks like your account was suspended not banned which kind of makes me question your credability right there.

 

Yeah buddy, it says right in the email "PERMANENTLY SUSPENDED".

What else do you need it to say?

Your word against theirs, I still take theirs. I would say you could post the e-mail but I actually don't care that much.

You care enough to post on this thread and try to discredit what Baseline says..

krackajap

Bottom line is, if this were an isolated incident I can understand the skepticism, but it is not.  A LOT of guild leaders have been wrongfully banned (and gotten their accounts re-activated so I guess that proves guilds can have that much gold legitimately, despite what some of you say).  No one is saying that exploiters shouldn't be banned.  What's being said is the way in which these bans were issued was piss poor.  Why is it alright to ban innocent people if most of the time they are correct?  Why shouldn't they have to investigate before banning?  I'm glad for threads like mine and this one.  As much as they tried, they couldn't just sweep it under rug and were forced to publicly acknowledge it.

Keyno

The simple fact that he isn't going to appeal the suspension, leads me to believe that he knew of the guild exploiting or he was exploiting himself. Either way - Good Riddance.

krackajap

Originally posted by jusomdude


By reading the interview with a Funcom employee, it looks like your account was suspended not banned which kind of makes me question your credability right there.

ROFL of all the things to argue, you argue semantics?

eq2js

Everyone who said that it was a good thing that he got banned, u are a bunch of fools. Fucom GM=Retard

remember that...and go buy WAR when it comes out...it will be much better

krackajap

Originally posted by Keyno


The simple fact that he isn't going to appeal the suspension, leads me to believe that he knew of the guild exploiting or he was exploiting himself. Either way - Good Riddance.

Where the hell did you come up with that one?  Where exactly did he say he wasn't going to appeal the suspension?

Unicorns_Pwn

Originally posted by Keyno


The simple fact that he isn't going to appeal the suspension, leads me to believe that he knew of the guild exploiting or he was exploiting himself. Either way - Good Riddance.

Personally, if I was on the receiving end and knew of no wrongdoing I wouldn't be inclined to appeal or continue playing the game. It is one thing to want the game to be free of exploits and exploiters, but  a more professional approach should have been taken. Funcom has even admitted in their own posts that some people who were innocent were affected by this ignorant kneejerk reaction.

jusomdude

Originally posted by krackajap

Originally posted by jusomdude


By reading the interview with a Funcom employee, it looks like your account was suspended not banned which kind of makes me question your credability right there.

ROFL of all the things to argue, you argue semantics?

ROFL, yeah, it's like saying he said he was eating an orange, when he was eating an apple. I'm sure he's well aware of the difference between the two words. Funny how some words can be completely different isn't it?

AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Unicorns_Pwn


Personally, if I wason the receiving end and also knew of no wrongdoing I wouldn't be inclined to appeal or continue playing the game. It is one thing to want the game to be free of exploits and exploiters, but  a more professional approach should have been taken. Funcom has even admitted in their own posts that some people who were innocent were affected by this ignorant kneejerk reaction.

To me its liking having to take your shoes off an an airport, or be searched. Its an inconvenience but a necessity for the good of all, and yet it pisses you off but somehow you understand WHY?

That same kind of stance against gold sellers and exploiters is perfectly justifiable in my opinion. Preventative measures for the good of the players, the game and early economy.

xephonics

Funcom has a history of banning players for BS reasons

 

They have done it in Anarchy Online for years.

They ban first, then the players have to beg/porve their innocence.

 

It is basically bullshit admins/gms that dont know how to do their fucking job.

And no, I was never banned, I just played their games for years, and I know how shitty a staff they have.

Trashcantoy

well baseline seeing ur post history u were going to quit it anyway, which (im sorry) leads me to believe your story is full of crap

no im not defending aoc or its GMs, i hated the petition system on AO u always needed to wait several hours and your petition got deleted when u went offline. on the other hand the ARKs in AO were very friendly, smaller community = better after all

xephonics

I dont think that cus he is leaving his post is BS

 

Being on the wrong side of shitty staff will make you not like the game.

 

And yes Funcom is full of shitty gms/admins. 

 

And no it is not like having your shoes searched, it is like being targeted cus of your race, and them doing a cavity search.  If it was like having your shoes searched, he would have been asked questions, not banned with no real reason why.

talismen351

Originally posted by Baseline


Here's the original - now locked - thead on the AOC boards: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=511052
 
Me. The Guild Leader of The ßox, on Deathwisper, just got banned very quickly. Basically, a GM just sent a generic PM about exploiting, and kicked me off without answering my inquiry as to why exactly.



My guild has spent the last week hardcore grinding coin in Keshatta and pooling all coin and resources to me to get our guild city completed with all walls as of just yesterday.



I had over 60 gold in my inventory today, pooled from our guild of nearly 100 people and friends of the guild, all grinding in raids in Keshatta with us. Yet the GM still banned without a specific explanation.



The bottom line here, is that Funcom just banned me, the leader of the guild, because a lot of our enemies on the server petitioned in saying I was exploiting, duping, etcetera, and they probably looked at how far we were with the city and how much gold I still had and believed it.



GG funcom. You said that it's going to be a guild effort to do this. You said that everyone would have to pool their resources to the guild leader and architect (both me) to make the cities / sieging happen. We did that, and you banned the guild leader.



Not surprising. Other people on the server have had their gold purged and bans have been handed out very quickly to anyone with any real pooled progress.



Here's a tip funcom, learn to differentiate between Dupers/Exploiters, and people pooling their endless hours of hard work into one person.



I won't be buying this game again, and you just pissed off about 100+ very vocal people that pooled a lot of resources, time and coin to me. You've also spread a lot of negative publicity about your game for how quickly you ban and  ruin a lot of peoples pooled efforts.

Isn't it possible...even if you yourself wasn't exploiting...that somebody in your guild or group of friends was exploiting? And since you were in charge you got the punishment? Problem is with most guilds they cannot keep track of what their other guildmates are doing. You just accept the money n do your building.

If you are not the cheater/exploiter...there is prolly somebody in your group that is...n you are the head that needed to be severed.

Trashcantoy

i think it is BS cause if you look at his previous thread he started - buying aoc is like buying a ticket for the titanic - and now he has this story where he and his whole guild all worked sooo hard for their gold and their city.. i dont believe it.. someone who absolutely hates this game is now suddenly working his butt off for a guild city in the same game?? thats bullshit IMHO

thats why... i could be wrong.. but yea... that doesnt change it for me

jusomdude

You know, I havn't seen any other altruistic posts by the OP, so to me it seems he is out for vengeance against Funcom and really doesn't give a **** about warning the players of anything.

xephonics

I just know Funcom has a history of doing BS blanket bans because they were too negligent to take care of the true problem.

AmazingAvery

Originally posted by jusomdude


You know, I havn't seen any other altruistic posts by the OP, so to me it seems he is out for vengeance against Funcom and really doesn't give a **** about warning the players of anything.

When you have a history of "Cry Wolf" and pretty much being disproved and then come with something like this, its hard to have an opinion until after an appeal outcome is brought forward. Didn't do himself any favours though with those types of "fail" posts a while back.

SomeOldBloke

This is the reason I won't play AoC.

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khartman2005: Funcom has the logs of those that exploited, I am sure you and the rest of your guild were exploiting and now your paying the price. I hate cheaters with a passion and am glad you and your kind are being dealt with.



vingvega: Good, we don't need you exploiters in the game.....bye bye now!



Riho06: I've been around awhile and I can say a vast majority of people who get banned deserve their punishment, the numbers just don't lie. Sorry Mr. OP.



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I refuse to play with people like this.

 

Darkheart00

they have an automated software that goes thru and checks for any flags that might indicate hacking or cheating and bans them right away. For example one of the flags could be xx gold earned in certain duration, it is possible they were gold transfer but who knows. From what i understand other MMOs do not have that blizz bans people only after GM identifies the account to be fraudelent (if large amount of gold is sent via mail and raises flag usually a GM will send a tell to both players identifying and investigating they are not gold sellers).

xephonics

yeah that would = lazy staff

 

would rather do automated checking than a normal investigation.

 

Good Job  FC :P

khartman2005

Originally posted by busdriver


People are getting banned because of a wellknown bug that Funcom was too lazy to fix. It does't really matter if this guy actually exploited or not, the fact is Funcom should have handled this like professionals (yes, I realise that for this particular company it would be a new thing), find proof first and then use the banstick.
I say it again, Funcom should have ironed these sort of things out during beta, that's why it's there for. Now Funcom's customers, players, are paying for their money-hungry ways of handling QA.

Just because  a bug makes it to release and was known in beta does NOT give anyone the right to exploit it for personal gain. That is called cheating. Anyone that sanctions that behaviour is sad and pathetic in my book.