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Those videos confirmed that this game is a WoW clone. Not trying to be a dick or anything but: the map/radar is in the top right portion of the screen, the player's energy bars are at the top left, the enemy's energy bar is right beside it to the right, the abilities are in a toolbar at the bottom center portion of the screen, and the chat window is on the bottom left...like WoW.
I'm not going to post who said this, but i thought it deserved it's own thread. Here's proof that WoW didn't invent the MMO genre, or gaming genre in general.
My point is that User Interfaces change over time and there is NOT one standard. WoW did NOT invent user interfaces, get over it fanbois.
Ultima Online: http://laundrybox.net/grandeur/images/uo.jpg
Anarchy Online: http://ui17.gamespot.com/1264/scrn0057_2.png
Asheron's Call: http://laundrybox.net/grandeur/images/ac.jpg
Asheron's Call 2: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7075/cap45jp7.jpg
Dark Age of Camelot: http://laundrybox.net/grandeur/images/daoc.jpg
Everquest: http://www.jeboscreenshots.com/images/screenshots/280830208067coolwerewolf.jpg
Everquest 2: http://brackishwater.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/eq2_000013.jpg
Lineage 2: http://lin2.warcry.com/media/images/guides/interface.jpg
Vanguard: http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/4089-Vanguard1.jpg
Lord of the Rings: http://www.darniaq.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ScreenShot00003.jpg
World of Warcraft: http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/world_of_warcraft_1.jpg
Edit: i failed at quoting
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http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/lineage/screenshot-viewer.html?id=107630
lineage(one) should be under UO.
it came out in 1998
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Sure its a WoW clone...where WoW is nothing more then another EQ clone.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Well duh. I didn't need screenshots to prove this.
It's not posted in chronological order.
EDIT: i understood the thread firs time rounf then when i read it again i misunderstood it haha sorry
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I came here ready to kick ass and take names...then i read the post...lol..ah...the trap...damn thee op your thread's name had me on the war path! lol
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Yeah unfortunatley WoW brought a ton of people who have never even pondered that there were MMOs before WoW. As much as I would love to hate these people I was one of those people who thought that EQ invented the MMO. At some levels to me WoW just felt like EQ for third grade kids, not that it wasn't fun but it was easy and shallow.
I think WAR's RvR -centric feel will differentiate it from WoW, atleast I hope
its a wow clone. the only difference is that is is more about pvp and the graphics are updated a tad. they added nothing new to the mmo genre. its still the same do a million quests to get to max lvl. then you have three choices, spend 4 hours in dungeons, pvp your heart out, or just mess with lower levels to make up for how much of your life you wasted on a computer game.
Since I know you haven't played it..and I have actually played it...well..People ASmith is a liar. :)Just because a game doesn't give you the hardcore or the openess or the sandbox tools doesn't make it a WoW clone.
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Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
What WoW did was blind the investors, the developers, and everyone else to anything but a WoW formula as the key to making a killing off of MMO players. I'm afraid that "MMO players" means "WoW players" in this context, because WoW massively (pardon the pun) expanded the MMO audience. Far beyond the crusty vets who make up most of MMORPG.COM's posters.
Thus, you're going to see more and more WoW clones rolling off the MMO assembly line, each of them failing for various reason to replicate Blizzard's success at creating the ultimate 2nd gen MMO.
I'm afraid with the US economy currently plunging into depths unexplored since the 1930s things are not going to get better, as the moneymen become even more conservative with their investments and demand return from the surest thing possible, which means, for the moment, the WoW model. Right down to the varnish on the axes and the bells on the pointed shoes of the Blood Elves.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
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Since I know you haven't played it..and I have actually played it...well..People ASmith is a liar. :)Just because a game doesn't give you the hardcore or the openess or the sandbox tools doesn't make it a WoW clone.
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Oo you beat me to it:) Anyways ya he/she has no clue whatsoever. I as well in beta can say it s not even close to WOW as he describes.
I'm not going to say Warhammer is a WoW clone, but there has been a lot of games released post WoW that have nearly indentical looking UIs. You can see that in the links posted by the original poster. The Warhammer UI looks the same too.
And EvE online is obviously just another Space Invaders clone.
I mean what you do basically is shoot other spaceships from your spaceship. Right?
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You sir, are a dick. WoW invented the Graphical User Interface. Now admit it, and apologize to all WoW fans everywhere for your heresy.
So it's a WoW clone because of the interface or the graphics? What about the underlying systems within the game? What about the devs philosophies about what makes a great game? What about the billion other things involved in a game that arent' the interface and graphics?
Who knows, Warhammer may suck, but to judge it on the interface is ridiculous.
Is it that big of a deal? My god, just click + drag the damn user interface around.
If they want the starting setup to be similar to previous MMOs, let them do so.
Enough of this dead WoW UI horse beating nonsense.
STOP WHINING!
If there is one thing that WoW did right, possibly even perfectly if you can find the right mods, it is the UI, so I for one am more than happy for WAR, or any other MMO, to 'clone' that part of WoW (and hopefully even improve on it).
And EvE online is obviously just another Space Invaders clone.
I mean what you do basically is shoot other spaceships from your spaceship. Right?
actually its an earth & beyond clone. E&B was originally named "Space invaders online". E&B was actually based off the same code from space invaders. and because EVE is an E&B clone, EVE used space invaders code!
wait.. what?
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
you have 790+ posts on a forum, how much of your life have you wasted bitching about video games.
These are all MMO's and you're gonna have many similarities between 'em all in one way or another.
But I really think people who use the word "clone" need to actually look the word up in a dictionary. Not one game out of the multitude of MMO's out there are in fact "clones" of one another. So this argument is moot and a bit ridiculous.
Bottom line is who gives a fat rat's ass if it's a WoW "clone"? If you're having fun playing a game then play it, otherwise find something else to occupy your time...
who cares if the UI looks the same..you sound like an old woman nit picking at the smallest things..you cant be much fun to be around....mmorpg players are the worst whiners i have every come into contact with..you people really know how to be depressing and miserable.
You pretty much showed you know nothing about WAR. You can't "mess" with low levels by any means. Chicken effect anyone? On the contrary, what exactly did WoW do different then any other MMO? Flying Mounts?
You know, that 330Ci over there looks nice but that M3 over there only is a tad better looking with more power ala substance. I wonder which is the better car? Come on, guy.
Nothing new here really. Since people started seeing how the game was taking shape such as UI and cartoony characters many already have labeled the game as a WOW clone since day 1. As long as the game is good who really cares ? Though I think one of the major selling points of this game is, is trying to convince people that it's not WoW 2.0. I also think that since in many peoples eyes that AOC was such a failure that now people are more inclined to try Warhammer. It's either Warhammer or bust for 2008 because nothing else is looking promising.
who cares if the UI looks the same..you sound like an old woman nit picking at the smallest things..you cant be much fun to be around....mmorpg players are the worst whiners i have every come into contact with..you people really know how to be depressing and miserable.
Well, it's not like WoW's UI is much different than stuff before it. I mean has he ever looked at the AC2 UI? It's pretty much the WoW UI exactly.
But then every game before that had similar UI features. Some had mini-maps before that... I mean really what makes the WoW UI unique? Nothing really aside from the fact you can modify it much more than any mmo before that... and since that's individuals taste how could that be similar.
One thing WoW did do was open the market up much larger than it was before and for that, well love'm or hatem.
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