Originally posted by Tawn47 but, what I really want is a game that has open world warfare, where co-ordinating your entire factions efforts in keep sieges across a range of battlefronts is the main focus of the game. I don't want set X vs X PvP battles.. I want a dynamic ever changing battle landscape where the tide of battle ebbs and flows.. sometimes in your favour.. and other times not, where you have to grimly defend a keep for as long as possible knowing defeat is almost a certainty, hoping for relief from reinforcements. I want a game where I can fight for something other than my own personal prestige and wealth. Something that others are fighting for too. So.. Since DAoC is now a bit dated, perhaps you could tell me which games satisfy these requirements? I think it all comes down to what we are after in a game. I enjoyed WoW, but all it lacked was RvR. If you have played DAoC, you'd know that zerging is common, but it is hardly all that RvR is about. Most times it is much more fun and tactical than that.
Sounds like what you really after is something more like the Total war games rather than a MMO
Umm.. I love the total war games, but they dont meet any of the above criteria. Not even remotely.
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
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but, what I really want is a game that has open world warfare, where co-ordinating your entire factions efforts in keep sieges across a range of battlefronts is the main focus of the game. I don't want set X vs X PvP battles.. I want a dynamic ever changing battle landscape where the tide of battle ebbs and flows.. sometimes in your favour.. and other times not, where you have to grimly defend a keep for as long as possible knowing defeat is almost a certainty, hoping for relief from reinforcements. I want a game where I can fight for something other than my own personal prestige and wealth. Something that others are fighting for too.
Eve online.
(The blue text is me earlier btw)
I play EvE online.. its great but not for me. It requires far to much corp commitment to access the real game.
I know factional warfare is new.. but EvE is just not easy to jump into.. lack of avatars means a disconnection with other players..
So yeah EvE is a great answer to my question, but unfortunately has some other drawbacks.. shame cos it is one of the best MMORPG's out there, if not the best.
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
about what? the combat? or the gameplay and pvp system?
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i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
there is more to a game then combat, im not saying the game is bad, just saying the combat stunk.
EDIT: i only played for 5-10 mins.
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i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
there is more to a game then combat, im not saying the game is bad, just saying the combat stunk.
EDIT: i only played for 5-10 mins.
I hope to high heavens your wrong though. The videos i've seen seem ok to me but you never know.
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
about what? the combat? or the gameplay and pvp system?
Raveing about everything. Sorry I will take the word of beta testers over someone who got to play it for a short period of time. This goes for someone saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread to. If you played it for an hr or two, its good enough for you to make up your mind, but not good enough to have a solid opinion of the game IMO. Though truth be told, everyone needs to try it out themself (if they are even somewhat interested) and decide if its for them. Not listne to beta leaks, people basing an opinion on a SS or video's. All that said, your entitled to your opinion just like everyone else.
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
about what? the combat? or the gameplay and pvp system?
Raveing about everything. Sorry I will take the word of beta testers over someone who got to play it for a short period of time. This goes for someone saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread to. If you played it for an hr or two, its good enough for you to make up your mind, but not good enough to have a solid opinion of the game IMO. Though truth be told, everyone needs to try it out themself (if they are even somewhat interested) and decide if its for them. Not listne to beta leaks, people basing an opinion on a SS or video's. All that said, your entitled to your opinion just like everyone else.
i only said the combat was nothing new .... i didnt mention anything else......
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i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
there is more to a game then combat, im not saying the game is bad, just saying the combat stunk.
EDIT: i only played for 5-10 mins.
Hmm believe someone who played 5 - 10 mins with a small selection of other 'noobs' or believe Devs & Beta Testers...I choose myself since I'm a Beta tester....You Stink btw showers are exit stage left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLt4YoSwxo here is pretty much all there was to see at the comic-con. I think its the same demo actually. As you can see in it, its nothing special.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLt4YoSwxo here is pretty much all there was to see at the comic-con. I think its the same demo actually. As you can see in it, its nothing special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLt4YoSwxo here is pretty much all there was to see at the comic-con. I think its the same demo actually. As you can see in it, its nothing special.
Um, that was two years ago.
not much has changed then because that video is real close to what i played
EDIT: and looking at the date, it was added to youtube, its 9 months old.
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That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
lol um ok, im only gonna say this one more time. I only mentioned the combat. I didnt mention the textures or graphics or etc. I was gonna say that the combat looks just like WoW's except WAR has slower moving characters and better looking spells, and no bunny hopping. But since a Fanboi compare WAR to WoW, i think its safe for me to do it.
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That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
lol um ok, im only gonna say this one more time. I only mentioned the combat. I didnt mention the textures or graphics or etc. I was gonna say that the combat looks just like WoW's except WAR has slower moving characters and better looking spells, and no bunny hopping. But since a Fanboi compare WAR to WoW, i think its safe for me to do it.
Yeah and I said it looks just as fast as WoW - you could ignore the stuff I put in about textures and graphics if you want. But this is a matter of opinion so I won't try to change yours hehe.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
lol um ok, im only gonna say this one more time. I only mentioned the combat. I didnt mention the textures or graphics or etc. I was gonna say that the combat looks just like WoW's except WAR has slower moving characters and better looking spells, and no bunny hopping. But since a Fanboi compare WAR to WoW, i think its safe for me to do it.
Yeah and I said it looks just as fast as WoW - you could ignore the stuff I put in about textures and graphics if you want. But this is a matter of opinion so I won't try to change yours hehe.
Noooo! It was a trap!! i usually never fall for them >.>
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Not trying to flame, but this is the most stupid thing I've read today. LOL!
Sounds like what you really after is something more like the Total war games rather than a MMO
Umm.. I love the total war games, but they dont meet any of the above criteria. Not even remotely.
i played it at the comic-con and the combat was nothing special, i agree with the OP. But dont take the word of somebody who has played it .... believe the devs, because devs dont lie ..... lol.....
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(The blue text is me earlier btw)
I play EvE online.. its great but not for me. It requires far to much corp commitment to access the real game.
I know factional warfare is new.. but EvE is just not easy to jump into.. lack of avatars means a disconnection with other players..
So yeah EvE is a great answer to my question, but unfortunately has some other drawbacks.. shame cos it is one of the best MMORPG's out there, if not the best.
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
about what? the combat? or the gameplay and pvp system?
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
there is more to a game then combat, im not saying the game is bad, just saying the combat stunk.
EDIT: i only played for 5-10 mins.
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Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
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Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
there is more to a game then combat, im not saying the game is bad, just saying the combat stunk.
EDIT: i only played for 5-10 mins.
I hope to high heavens your wrong though. The videos i've seen seem ok to me but you never know.
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
about what? the combat? or the gameplay and pvp system?
Raveing about everything. Sorry I will take the word of beta testers over someone who got to play it for a short period of time. This goes for someone saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread to. If you played it for an hr or two, its good enough for you to make up your mind, but not good enough to have a solid opinion of the game IMO. Though truth be told, everyone needs to try it out themself (if they are even somewhat interested) and decide if its for them. Not listne to beta leaks, people basing an opinion on a SS or video's. All that said, your entitled to your opinion just like everyone else.
Would it be ok to take the word of someone who has played it, regularly in beta, and thinks it's brilliant?
There's loads of leakers raving about it.
about what? the combat? or the gameplay and pvp system?
Raveing about everything. Sorry I will take the word of beta testers over someone who got to play it for a short period of time. This goes for someone saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread to. If you played it for an hr or two, its good enough for you to make up your mind, but not good enough to have a solid opinion of the game IMO. Though truth be told, everyone needs to try it out themself (if they are even somewhat interested) and decide if its for them. Not listne to beta leaks, people basing an opinion on a SS or video's. All that said, your entitled to your opinion just like everyone else.
i only said the combat was nothing new .... i didnt mention anything else......
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Nice. Thought there was more to a game then that. How long did you play ?
there is more to a game then combat, im not saying the game is bad, just saying the combat stunk.
EDIT: i only played for 5-10 mins.
Hmm believe someone who played 5 - 10 mins with a small selection of other 'noobs' or believe Devs & Beta Testers...I choose myself since I'm a Beta tester....You Stink btw showers are exit stage left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLt4YoSwxo here is pretty much all there was to see at the comic-con. I think its the same demo actually. As you can see in it, its nothing special.
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Um, that was two years ago.
Um, that was two years ago.
not much has changed then because that video is real close to what i played
EDIT: and looking at the date, it was added to youtube, its 9 months old.
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Check out what I just found on Youtube.
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
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That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Go on back to AoC.
Everyone knows WAR's combat isn't going to be overly-revolutionary.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
lol um ok, im only gonna say this one more time. I only mentioned the combat. I didnt mention the textures or graphics or etc. I was gonna say that the combat looks just like WoW's except WAR has slower moving characters and better looking spells, and no bunny hopping. But since a Fanboi compare WAR to WoW, i think its safe for me to do it.
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
lol um ok, im only gonna say this one more time. I only mentioned the combat. I didnt mention the textures or graphics or etc. I was gonna say that the combat looks just like WoW's except WAR has slower moving characters and better looking spells, and no bunny hopping. But since a Fanboi compare WAR to WoW, i think its safe for me to do it.
Yeah and I said it looks just as fast as WoW - you could ignore the stuff I put in about textures and graphics if you want. But this is a matter of opinion so I won't try to change yours hehe.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Go on back to AoC.
Everyone knows WAR's combat isn't going to be overly-revolutionary.
AOC? what are you talking about bro
This is footage of WARHAMMER.. WAAAGGHHH.
That's convenient, seeing as the middle one shows better lighting, textures, etc. It was after a recent patch and the combat looks just as fast as WoW - and he's playing as a Bright Wizard.
lol um ok, im only gonna say this one more time. I only mentioned the combat. I didnt mention the textures or graphics or etc. I was gonna say that the combat looks just like WoW's except WAR has slower moving characters and better looking spells, and no bunny hopping. But since a Fanboi compare WAR to WoW, i think its safe for me to do it.
Yeah and I said it looks just as fast as WoW - you could ignore the stuff I put in about textures and graphics if you want. But this is a matter of opinion so I won't try to change yours hehe.
Noooo! It was a trap!! i usually never fall for them >.>
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
Go on back to AoC.
Everyone knows WAR's combat isn't going to be overly-revolutionary.
AOC? what are you talking about bro
This is footage of WARHAMMER.. WAAAGGHHH.
I was saying that if he wants 'revolutionary' combat, he should go back to AoC.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
oh ok i thought u were ripping on me .. I'm on your side.. I THINK?