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I am merely replying to their posts. I'm not buying the game you're right about that, and I'm not QQing to Mythic, I am stating my points here. Thank you for letting me know where you stand and the fact that you believe there is nothing wrong and you will be happy to pay for an unfinished game, good for you.
I've read every single one of his posts on this topic and i have to agree in that he does follow a pattern of flip flopping constantly and the fact that all he has/can complain about is "the 4 esseintal classes" and the capitals
The real question here is how much Blizzard is paying this guys company to trash WAR.
Wow.. you really did spend all that time typing, I'm impress. I gave up half way through.
I could resume it by :
I always wonder why people think that complaining to a forums will make any change to a game
You attack me and call me dumb yet you have reading comprehension problems. Hmm. I stated i am not a roleplayer, i was speaking about roleplayers. I said that in the beginning people will be gimped without the essential class and they will have to rely on other races when they could have had their team fully ready to go right from the beginning. They could always mix up later on during middle game and end game, this isn't about racism or anything but about the original plan of the battlefronts they proposed and it was way better. They were ready to go and kick butt and not having to wait for someone from another land to complete them. It was about balance but Mythic discarded that and wanted to have other tanks or melee dps make up for it because they don't want to work on the classes.
Check out the other thread he started.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/134368
It is a full page bash of LotRO. Wow, if he isn't a paid basher I will eat my CE.
There is a difference between an unfinished original vision for a game that drew people to the game and then a game that constantly changes and updates and has content added to it. There is no guarantee they will add them in later except continue on course with the racial sides without their archetype. Of course you could mix but it would have been better to have those 4 in the game right from the get go.
You attack me and call me dumb yet you have reading comprehension problems. Hmm. I stated i am not a roleplayer, i was speaking about roleplayers. I said that in the beginning people will be gimped without the essential class and they will have to rely on other races when they could have had their team fully ready to go right from the beginning. They could always mix up later on during middle game and end game, this isn't about racism or anything but about the original plan of the battlefronts they proposed and it was way better. They were ready to go and kick butt and not having to wait for someone from another land to complete them. It was about balance but Mythic discarded that and wanted to have other tanks or melee dps make up for it because they don't want to work on the classes.
Actualy... you're wrong there.. the ORIGINAL plan was for everyone to cooporate... RvR is REALM vs REALM... not RACE vs RACE... they stated that already... and this will help doing that...
You attack me and call me dumb yet you have reading comprehension problems. Hmm. I stated i am not a roleplayer, i was speaking about roleplayers. I said that in the beginning people will be gimped without the essential class and they will have to rely on other races when they could have had their team fully ready to go right from the beginning. They could always mix up later on during middle game and end game, this isn't about racism or anything but about the original plan of the battlefronts they proposed and it was way better. They were ready to go and kick butt and not having to wait for someone from another land to complete them. It was about balance but Mythic discarded that and wanted to have other tanks or melee dps make up for it because they don't want to work on the classes.
For the love of God and all that is holy...THEY ARE WORKING ON THE CLASSES AND CITIES! THEY WILL BE IN THE GAME...JUST NOT DIRECTLY AT RELEASE! What the FUCK don't you get about that. They are working on the classes and they have stated that there are whole teams working on both cities and classes. Don't you dare spread lies {mod edit}
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
shhh... easy cap... i'll bake you soem cookies ^^
No. I'm just simply not going to deal with this asshole any longer. NOT EVEN FOR COOKIES!
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
No. I'm just simply not going to deal with this asshole any longer. NOT EVEN FOR COOKIES!
maybe brownies?
I have to disagree, i am the consumer, I refuse to pay for something unfinished. You either do it right or not at all. For you to say its unreasonable to get upset, you have incredibly low standards. You will continue to support the industry and continue to encourage them to put out unfinished games because they know the player base will buy it and put up with a half made game for an entire year, thus giving them millions of dollars in the process. And if the game declines, they can rinse their hands of it and walk away with profit.
When it comes to your options, i go with delay the game and according to their perfectionist standards, delay the game yet again. I don't care, release the game right, or not at all. I will not pay for a game that is not done.
I've highlighted the one thing you said that is good for us. That means you won't be in game and we will all have a better gaming experience for it, and you won’t be around to flood chat.
If you are going to write a diatribe like this thread at least show your references instead of just spewing innuendo and trolling.
You assume a lot, i don't flood chat channels. I don't harass people either, so i doubt i would ruin your gaming experience. You probably won't have to worry about me being in the game though, so you're right about that. If you want to pay for an unfinished game, go right on ahead, then you can wait for an entire year waiting for that content to come and then be told that they just don't feel like it. Who knows, i guess you trust Mythic so much, you'd be willing to take that risk.
And who says its going to take a year? It may verry well but spouting random times for something you know NOTHING about is just as bad as saying its unfinished. If its unfinished at launch that would mean that features arent working or not in the game. Guess what, classes are in the game, some where cut. Living cities and RvR are in the game. Some cities where cut. Doesnt mean its not finished. The content IN the game will be finished at launch so thus, its a finished game at launch with old features to be added later, for free not in an expansion.
See it all depends on your definition of finished. Your entitled to yours by you are not entitled to tell someone else there opinion is wrong and in a way, you are.
If you even read what i said, i said you have your opinions and i have mine, i stated that people won't agree with me, thats true for everyone of you. You will always have people who disagree with you, no matter what.
But your basically saying that your willing to pay for it and just "hope" and "trust" that they will add it in. Thats what they want you to do.
Yea have fun running around and getting wiped from boss fights or other mobs. Without a tank in early levels and pvp, no it probably won't make a huge difference but you will be the one getting spanked nonetheless for it. Have fun getting spanked so much, that you have to goto PvE and grind mobs so that you can get out of the smaller tiers due to the fact that your side is getting owned. And why? You lack one of your ESSENTIAL classes, and if nobody from the other races wants to join you, oh well, toooo bad. Or, lets wait 15 minutes for him to arrive, good thing he has a mount or it would take him 25 minutes or more!
As long as they have people like you playing their games, the industry will boon off of people with low standards and turning a blind eye to an unfinished product and still paying for it. Instead of having a great and complete game, you would rather have a game thats unfinished and not done till 1 year, and THEN finally have the game that you could have had from the beginning. Imagine if they released the game a year ago, how much of a disaster that would have been, this is the same situation only a lot less severe. But still serious nonetheless.
it costs about 50 copper to get to another zone......................its fine.
STOP THINKING SIDE VS SIDE, ITS REALM VS REALM
It was still Realm vs Realm with the original plan but they narrowed it down and made it smaller.
ahem *cough cough*
if you aren''t a roleplayer why dont you just
stay to yourself then?
instead of worrying about their problems?
Wow! good find. I wonder what games he didn't post crap like this about hmm..
Cookies nom nom nom send a few my way. I've quitely stayed out of this madhouse thread (except one post which the troll didn't reply to because I'm right). Wait, that might mean I don't deserve a cookie...but I don't care. Gimmeh!
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Guardious...if you don't lock and delete this thread now...I will give you a reason. That's a promise.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I'm just taking the time to reply to all these posts, that i can't keep up with sadly, too many posts.
But yes i already know, you want to pay for a game that is not finished, because you are desperate for a MMO, desperate.
They were given time, two delays to be exact, and they still couldn't get it done. No we don't need to have an ocean of bugs, nobody wants that, but there's also no reason to release an unfinished game either
Remember, WAR has been one of the fastest MMO productions to date, lasting a little over 3 years.
What makes you think the game is an ocean of bugs? The fact that they cut our the 4 classes and postponed 4 cities does not mean the game is an ocean of bugs. The classes were cut because they were not working out like Mythic had hoped and they did not want to introduce half-assed classes that could cause possible balance problems in the future.
The cities were postponed because the Empire Cap(Altdorf) and the Chaos Cap(The Inevitable City) were MUCH more impressive than the other four. Rather than release the game with two huge well done cities (and four small uncomparable cities), Mythic decided they would temporarily put huge fortresses in the place of the unfinished cities and after launch focus on making them something even more astounding than Altdorf or The Inevitable City.
Yes, there is a reason unfortunately. EA has a very pointy stick that they are not afraid to use.
If this does not answer anything, feel free to compile a list of your concerns (1. 2. 3. 4. format) and post them in a new thread so I (and everyone else) can respond to them much quicker. It is your decision though, if you want to keep the "I want my cookie, no the whole cookie, I won't change my views until I get the entire cookie" mindset you can continue to do so.
Just enjoy it while it lasts, the lockhammer walks here and there they say.
STOP WHINING!
Believe us people who have played the CB, WAR is done right. We can't tell you how, or why, but we'll tell you it is, and tell you to wait a week or two so we can tell you in detail. Have patience, young padawan.
Yes, all will be revealed, BUT, try playing the game for 6 months, THEN come back here and speak, THEN we'll see how great your game is after the masses play it. If it truly is great, then i will be rolling a dwarven engineer, but I'm pretty convinced that they blew it because of EA prodding them and deciding to cut important content in the hopes that people will "pay" for an unfinished product. Nope, sorry Mythic. I am not a Warhammer or a Mythic hater, i already stated that i followed this game with anticipation but I like the original plan, it was way better, and i believe they embarked in the wrong direction.
In 6 months...we'll have those 4 cities and classes back.
So trusting you are, but I'm sure you won't be happy after paying for 6 months in vain anticipation
Dude after looking at your posts on lotro it would be easier if you just cut an pasted then inserted the game name. I checked your profile out your 22 just a pup you need to be out there trying to get some instead of hanging in forums.
Take a break and try real life for a change.
Believe us people who have played the CB, WAR is done right. We can't tell you how, or why, but we'll tell you it is, and tell you to wait a week or two so we can tell you in detail. Have patience, young padawan.
Yes, all will be revealed, BUT, try playing the game for 6 months, THEN come back here and speak, THEN we'll see how great your game is after the masses play it. If it truly is great, then i will be rolling a dwarven engineer, but I'm pretty convinced that they blew it because of EA prodding them and deciding to cut important content in the hopes that people will "pay" for an unfinished product. Nope, sorry Mythic. I am not a Warhammer or a Mythic hater, i already stated that i followed this game with anticipation but I like the original plan, it was way better, and i believe they embarked in the wrong direction.
In 6 months...we'll have those 4 cities and classes back.
So trusting you are, but I'm sure you won't be happy after paying for 6 months in vain anticipation
I don't give a shit if they add them or not. I'll be too busy having fun and you'll be busy trolling other forums about the next best game. I really don't understand why MMO companies and MMO gamers want other games to fail. It's only good for the industry when a successful MMO comes around the corner.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
*Thread has run it's course, points where made on all sides, starting to become trolling*
Thread Locked
Okay, this has gone really offtopic in the last pages.
I'd like to remind you all that accusing someone of being paid by a company without really good evidence will be handled just like normal flaming.
Calling each other trolls won't earn you mod sympathies either. As a matter of fact, you will receive warnings, and in some cases bans for it, too.