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melmoth1
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Well I thought I would volunteer one of those posts that attempts to give to some balance to these forums.
I'm not a fanboi, although I can be a hater if pushed too far.
I've played WOW, EVE, COH, COV, LOTRO, EQ2, VGSOH, SWG and maybe a few others.
I currently play VGSOH for PVE and crafting and AOC as I am enjoying levelling and hope the pvp is good-to-go by the time I reach 80. I am really a casual player and I don't put all my eggs in one basket. By that I mean, I usually play 1-2 mmos at a time; play a couple of non-mmos; and have other geeky pastimes too, like collecting comics, cult movies, toys etc. In fact, when WAR comes out I will play VGSOH, AOC and WAR lol.
AOC does have problems.
1/ Funcom could have been more honest with its customers and could have delayed the game to improve content/fix bugs. I think WAR were wise to pick up on this and come clean about removing intended content in order to reach their release date target.
2/They have generated a lot of hostility with the way they have "policed" their forums. Although many posters were/are behaving inappropriately, they are still customers and a little more tact and positive reasoning would have sufficed to keep people on-board.
3/ AOC still has an annoying gray map memory leak bug that affects people with high end PCs, as well those trying to play with older pcs. The gray map requires a reboot of the game as it may lead to lag/crashing later on.
4/I am not high-level yet, but I take it as fact that there are serious issues with end-game content and pvp.
5/ The CE was a rip-off. I bought one and you get a useless drinking cape which was designed for bar-room brawling which isn't in the game. You get an xp-enhancing ring to level 40, but levelling isn't slow anyway, so it's meaningless. I stopped wearing that ring at lv 28. The only good thing it has is a leather-map and a music CD.
That said, I am level 42, in a cool guild and I really do love this game. I love playing this game and believe that Funcom has put a lot of love and care into AOC. Perhaps they were overambitious, but I do not doubt their love of the Conan universe and their dedication to make this game better over time. What we have right now, level 1-40 at least, is 'one' of the three best mmos I've played for those levels.
The graphics are beautiful, the music is the best in any mmo I have played and the combat rocks. Fatalities are nice and even nicer when you are battling in groups and get mutliple fatalities. I love the art-design in this game and when you play on a high-end machine with bloom enabled, well you will get the best visuals in any mmo to date.
My guild has many lv60-80s and they dont complain much. The odd gripe about bugs or anticipated patches/content, but they seem happy playing.
Now some people have genuine and valid criticisms of this game, but I do want to take issue with those who continue to make repeated hate-posts and who make gleeful and wishful predictions of Funcom and AOCs total demise. I think those people are taking it way too far and seems the product of personalities who are unable to deny things (movies, comics, games etc) without feeling "called upon" to besmirch them, and deny others the right to enjoy and believe in them. Let's be clear on distinguishing between valid criticism and these more unbalanced criticisms.
So, if you can afford to play more than one game then I think you should try AOC. Take the extreme negativity here with a large pinch of salt. Even 'if' the end-game sucked by the time you got there I still think you would have had a blast playing the earlier levels.
Regards
Melmoth
edited for spelling errors
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The game really is good, although I havn't reached level 80 yet to see the stuff most the haters complain about, but something tells me, by the time I reach max level most of it will be fixed.
It really is sad to see people with so much glaring negativity in general, and they have to release it somewhere, so why not AoC since it has a few problems, right?
Not everyone has to accept negativity and bad attitudes people are attempting to be thrust down their throats either. I'm still enjoying the game, as are many, like the OP has stated.
As a casual player - I have time to play one MMO. I asked my friend who got AoC when it came out how its going. He said he hasnt logged in for over a month.
So AoC isnt going to be the MMO I play for the next few years.
i think this is one of the best mmos currently out. i enjoy the hell out of it. my only real complaint, is that i had to overclock the hell out of my machine to get it to run
oh, and i thought the collectors edition was worth it, just for the artbook.
Some people eat rat meat too, doesnt mean I will.
I'd rather eat rat meat than dog shit!, wait is this relevant to this topic?
Finaly someone that can say good and bad things aboute the game not only bad things. I get the haters that was so hyped and fell on there ass but seriusly its so friking funny to se them complain over a game they dont have to play. Dont like it then dont play easy as that. If you still wanna complain and blow up all small problems, that if it were another game that said it or done it you wouldent have said anything but go ahead im laughing my head off everytime you guys take the fact that one gm farted and make it into that he shit all over the place.
People are still playing and enjoying this game
My prayers are with them all. I shall light a candle and stand in vigil to guide these wayward souls on their way back to sanity.
Okey please tell me what so friking wrong aboute this game that i must be insane to play it. Is it memoryleaks coz i have had worse problems in another games, is it the pvp part? is it the funcom in some way tricked us? Im getting so friking tired of all the "omg how can anyone play this game" when it isent even bad! Vanguards relese was bad, TR realse was bad, eq2 realse was bad and it took long for them to fix all that stuff and yet you all think this is the first time a game had have truble at launch that so funny.
Past bad releases cannot count in a genre that moves so rapidly. No longer will people put up with a unpolished rock even if it later turns into a diamond.
Tabula and VGSOH my friend suffered horribly. Theres an article somewhere that shows Ncsoft had to wipe some million figure of korean currency due to the games failure.
Heck my first mmorpg was DAOC and even though I wasn't in it from the very start I was in early and that was fairly well polished for the time, I had no bugs or gripes just lots of fun meeting people to bash things by the barrows.
If a game is released polished and with content promised then this genre and its players are for the taking.
Its not just about tech issues and lack of end game content. The core gameplay itself sucks. At first glance it seems revolutionary and plays that way for the first 30-40 lvls, but once the novelty wears off, you see it for what it really is. They marketed it as vastly different to a combat system like WoW's where you click a spell and wait a few seconds for it to tick over, but when you ignore the fatalities and timed direction movement, its exactly the same. All they have done is masked the 'timer' with silly directional blows. It really is not much different than the combat in other mmos at its core.
Many people also miss the fact that the class structure of this game, while a refreshing change at first, is really its end game down fall. There are no real set defined raid specs like dps, tank, healer, cc etc, the lines between talent builds are all blurred and smudged to the extent that all boss tactics work as follows - every player including healers run straight at the boss and wail away until he dies. Very little in the way of crowd control, off tanking, boss abilities needing counters from class specific spells etc. What this all means is Age of Conan will -never- have dynamic raid boss fights with the class structure in this way. Many people hated being stuck in a class spec they didn't want for raid progression , but face the facts, like chess, you need to have set roles for all your pieces to create great strategy.
My belief is that the people who still enjoy this game are either delusional or have not yet realized these glaring core gameplay faults because they have had limited dungeon experience with this game. Lets not even get started on the pvp gameplay faults....
uhm...
Off course players are enjoying it, taste differs. Some people like Wow, some old EQ, some AoC.
Can't see why so many are trolling games they don't like, what's best for someone isn't best for someone else, there is no ultimate MMO which everybody like. And thats good, how would life be if everybody liked the same music or same food. Boring.
It is not trolling to write your opinion in a thread but it is to write the same thing in as many threads as possible BTW.
And yes all games have their faults, AoC needs more content, wow needs higher textures, guldwars need fewer instances and so on. But so what? If you like a game, play it, if not, play something else.
I think it's perfectly understandable that casual players can still enjoy this game, however once they hit 65+ they will see...
I know I enjoyed this game till then, the problem is this game doesn't cater to harcore, casual or average gamers. Because lack of content hits all of them it's just a matter of time till they run into the deadend.
O_o o_O
I made the mistake of getting Vanguard when it first came out, and that was a nightmare. I know that things are much better now, but I have so many bad experiences that I wouldn't even think of trying it out again. Because of that I made the decision to never get an MMO on launch, I would wait for a month or two to see how things work out for it before plunging in. Despite the fact that I'm doing the beta test on WAR, even that I will wait for a couple of months until I plunge in.
I recently started playing AOC, and I have to say that I'm enjoying it. The major problems I see, both from personal experience and from other people are:
- Not much end-game content: I'm a very casual player, so it will take a couple of months before I hit the ~50 mark, which is where people seem to be having problems. By then, I'm hoping that more content will have been implemented, if not it will be 1 month since WAR was released and we'll see how that goes
- Bad PvP: the FFA is obviously buggered, and the sieging mechanics, bar room brawls and dueling are not yet implemented, so that is obviously a problem. So far it's not bugging me because I'm enjoying the rest of the game, but I hope they put it in soon before I get bored.
- Bad customer support: so far I have no complaints in this area, but from what I read things are pretty bad. However, until something happens to me personally I can't really complain.
- Bad community: most MMO forums are a cess pit. The person commending EVE for its community must be joking, ever seen what Goons and BoB used to throw at each other? I just stay away from the public forums and concentrate on guild/fellowship/corp forums.
- Bugs: All MMOs have bugs for the first year and after patches. There are a few exceptions that have been around for a few years, but with a game that's been in the market for just over 2 months what did you expect?
I love it how people say things like its ok, the game is new, all games have missing content at launch etc, its that attitude that sends a message to developers that its OK to release sub standard games. If people stood up and said no, its not good enough, we want all the features you said in your marketing hype or we are not buying the game, then they would have all the features implemented with longer development time or they wont spout bullshit hype and just tell you whats really in the game. Of course you will have a few bugs or some slight balancing issues but you will have all the content, and a much more polished game at launch.
It is we as gamers who set the standard, not the developers.
Then let them see for them self at 65+ im just tired of ppl writing it, its kinda weird though as form what i have read not once is the ppl that bitching aboute lack of content say they ran out of it at the same lvl, i have heard 40+ no quest, no 50+,no60+ and now 65+ and yet i see ppl raiding at 80 so i dont get it when will the content run out?
try making a prefect mmo and still have money to launch.
Some people just simply have a greater awareness than others and see past false walls, those are the ones that have left already. Others just leave the wool over their eyes and enjoy steaming piles of crap.
try making a prefect mmo and still have money to launch.
If they can't do it then they should not bother making one and stick to smaller budget games. simple
If I went to a restaurant and ordered something off the menu, say a hamburger with bacon and cheese on it, I pay for it, and when I finally get it, theres no bacon, no cheese, the damn hamburger hasnt even finished cooking, you better damn well expect Im going to a) get my flippin money back or b) or complain til I get the hamburger like its SUPPOSED to be.
Now since I cant do A or B with AoC, (and trust me the game cost a lot more than a hamburger) Im gonna burn em, they burned me, and turn about is fair play.
try making a prefect mmo and still have money to launch.
If they can't do it then they should not bother making one and stick to smaller budget games. simple
Agreed. Just think how much more development could have been done if they skipped million dollar marketing ploys.
Some people eat rat meat too, doesnt mean I will.
Here we have a constructive post and a trash post. Which is which? Dude, if you got nothing to say, just shut up! The OP posted his thoughts in a very complete and objective way and you come here and reply with this? God, I am happy that ppl like you have quit AoC. At least the community is getting better and better.
(You have quit, right?)
yeah I quit, Im not paying to test their beta for the xbox360 release. Im smarter than that.
Some people eat rat meat too, doesnt mean I will.
Here we have a constructive post and a trash post. Which is which? Dude, if you got nothing to say, just shut up! The OP posted his thoughts in a very complete and objective way and you come here and reply with this? God, I am happy that ppl like you have quit AoC. At least the community is getting better and better.
(You have quit, right?)
yeah I quit, Im not paying to test their beta for the xbox360 release. Im smarter than that.
owned
I love how hes trying to say the AoC community is getting better when all the good people left and the AoC fanbois (who are the real bane of the communtiy) have stayed
Some people eat rat meat too, doesnt mean I will.
Here we have a constructive post and a trash post. Which is which? Dude, if you got nothing to say, just shut up! The OP posted his thoughts in a very complete and objective way and you come here and reply with this? God, I am happy that ppl like you have quit AoC. At least the community is getting better and better.
(You have quit, right?)
yeah I quit, Im not paying to test their beta for the xbox360 release. Im smarter than that.
owned
I love how hes trying to say the AoC community is getting better when all the good people left and the AoC fanbois (who are the real bane of the communtiy) have stayed
What cracks me up even more is that I dont bash on the people playing it. (Though I should because by paying these people theyre saying its okay that FC lied to the gaming community and ripped us off)
However these same people stoop low enough for personal attacks, even draggin moms into it. Theyre the bane of the gaming community, not me. I dont like a game I make it known, I get conned into buying ag game that cant even deliver what its got written o the box, I make it known. its my right to do so, whether people like it or not.
If you guys enjoy the game, more power to you, I have no beef with anyone that enjoys it, by all means have a great time, I wish I was. However lets not resort to personal attacks because you are defending a company that didnt release a quality product, and in fact lied to us all.
CORRECTION:
Casual people who aren't 80 / near 80 are still playing and enjoying this game
You really don't see how badly messed up this game is until you get to the higher levels
I too enjoyed the game when I was levelling up, at least till I started the 60s.
After that it starts going sour, and at 80 it turns to crap.