It looks a lot better than WAR at this point. And i prefer the realistic graphics to this cartoony stuff .
If you think this looks cartoony then you need eye surgery
know any god eye surgeons? seriously the game has cartoonish graphics like wow did. WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE and obviously did great for WoW. I like the graphics in WAR a lot, but dont promote them as something they arent. We all know you are a big DF troll but cmon be serious.
yeah you need an eye surgeon. You're goint to sit there and tell me the above pic looks like this:
and you have the audicity to throw out the word "troll?"
Please man. That's called hypocrisy
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Pointless thread. Why are we comparing two games as different as DFO and WAR? They're pretty much the opposite of each other, besides the fact that they both pride themselves on meaningful PvP combat. That's about as far as it goes. WAR is a linear, class/level-based game that is designed around a competitive PvP atmosphere. DFO is not even in beta yet so we know nothing about what it claims is even in the game. Possibly even vaporware only time will tell.
Fixed.
Darkfall might just be the next great sandbox. Who knows. Untill they actually get the player CB started not one single person know wtf DFO has for sure except the developers.
No one knows if its vaporware. No one knows if all these promiced features are there. On the other hand we do know what WAR has to offer. So anyone saying DFO > WAR is infact clueless. Regardless of being diffrent types of games DFO only has promices right now. WAR on the other hand is due for release and has shown what it has to offer.
Darkfall just released a new 17 minute video. It has some cool stuff. Ship battles, floating platforms to attack player built cities. It looks a lot better than WAR at this point. And i prefer the realistic graphics to this cartoony stuff . Of course we will have to see how beta goes
Two different games with different features. They will hardly compete with each other... they will compete for some pvpers but that's all.
One is a sandbox skill based with FFA PvP with full looting, very niche game. The other is a RvR level based one, which is obviously oriented to other target of players.
I think both games can be very succesful ones but I think they are not competing with each other too much.
I am happy we will have these two games as options to enjoy.
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
You are a couple weeks late to make this comment...sorry to disapoint.
The hip thing to do now is to get on its graphics or chance of releasing smoothly. You're welcome
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
You are a couple weeks late to make this comment...sorry to disapoint.
The hip thing to do now is to get on its graphics or chance of releasing smoothly. You're welcome
i like that your sig shows that you do not understand what the definition of "vaporware" is; that truly adds a special something to your non-factual based argument.
that video changes nothing. the make-believe beta changes nothing. darkfall trolls running to other forums salivating and foaming at the mouth changes nothing. lots of nothing. sort of like darkfall.
gbtw.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
obviously you didn't watch the video...but thats cool
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
obviously you didn't watch the video...but thats cool
Thanks
obviously, you don't know the definition of vaporware.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
In all honesty i cant wait until October, when people realize its another lie or this beta is just an empty shell with none of the promised features then maybe people can let it go, everytime Tasos throws a bone to the fanbois they come posting on every single forums like theyr announcing the Birth of Jesus.
but the whole full loot thing on other players will ensure that this game will never hit it big...
could it be successful yes...but not as much as some peeps would belive...
just image your a newb....get ganked...loose your stuff...hit cancel button...
as for it beating out war...doubt that...warhammer has the ip that is really popular...
and the rvr and quests are done very nicely...
and from what i can tell for the video...all the higher graphics and other stuff goin round its gonna be a laggy game when you get too many peeps in one area...but then again they might get that right...
and always wait til after the closed beta starts and u get some info on it before u start praiseing the game...
havent there been about 4 darkfall beta signups? i wouldnt get too excited lads.
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
darkfall scares people? wtf?????
firstly, i'm pro-gamer, not pro-specific-game. if a game is fun, i'm all for it. if a game is crap, i'm not for it. if a gaming company does right by it's customers, i'm all for them. if a gaming company does their (potential) customers wrong, i'm very much not for them.
but, at least you now understand darkfall is vaporware.
Vaporware is a somewhat derogatory term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar software/hardware product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.
it is the epitomy of the definition of vaporware.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
havent there been about 4 darkfall beta signups? i wouldnt get too excited lads.
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
I think you are misunderstanding the whole situation, praising goes to when a company says "sorry we gotta give it another 6 months we need to polish out some more features" while this happens there is usually a closed beta happening already and they need more time, on DF's case they announced a release date -> 3 YEARS AGO<- then they announced a BETA and it was all a lie, now im gonna go with your delusion and agree that they decided they needed more time, EVEN if this was the case a company that announced a game 3 Years Before its ready is just a company that doesnt have a clue of WTF they are doing. Also if it was just to "polish " the game they would have released a gameplay video ages ago.
DF just shows how desperate the MMO community is, these people (Tasos & aventurine[if it even exists]) know how powerfull their concept is, no matter what they give out to the community everyone will be pretty excited about and they take advantage of that, but you will realize either when this game Launches or when it Doesnt , because even if it does there is no WAY its gonna have all of its concepts functioning.
The era of people coding good games with their mates in a dorm is gone, (I hate to bring WoW to the mix but its such a good example) do you think a company that's been delaying their release for the past 5-6 years promising betas, has absolutely no exterior financing, besides a Bank Loan the fanbois claim they had is gonna compete with a 50-60 Million dollar project? Think again.
Oh noes... just when some of the WoW vs WAR were gone now we have the Darkfall vs WAR threads.
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PPL. WHY CANT YOU JUST PLAY A GAME AND BE HAPPY WITHOUT THE NEED OF COMPARING IT TO OTHER GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The OP should get a ban and so should everyone with stupids comparison threads. I cant get into any war forum without seeing some stupid troll going someStupidGame vs WAR.
havent there been about 4 darkfall beta signups? i wouldnt get too excited lads.
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
I think you are misunderstanding the whole situation, praising goes to when a company says "sorry we gotta give it another 6 months we need to polish out some more features" while this happens there is usually a closed beta happening already and they need more time, on DF's case they announced a release date -> 3 YEARS AGO<- then they announced a BETA and it was all a lie, now im gonna go with your delusion and agree that they decided they needed more time, EVEN if this was the case a company that announced a game 3 Years Before its ready is just a company that doesnt have a clue of WTF they are doing. Also if it was just to "polish " the game they would have released a gameplay video ages ago.
DF just shows how desperate the MMO community is, these people (Tasos & aventurine[if it even exists]) know how powerfull their concept is, no matter what they give out to the community everyone will be pretty excited about and they take advantage of that, but you will realize either when this game Launches or when it Doesnt , because even if it does there is no WAY its gonna have all of its concepts functioning.
The era of people coding good games with their mates in a dorm is gone, (I hate to bring WoW to the mix but its such a good example) do you think a company that's been delaying their release for the past 5-6 years promising betas, has absolutely no exterior financing, besides a Bank Loan the fanbois claim they had is gonna compete with a 50-60 Million dollar project? Think again.
Stopped reading here.
If people really can entertain the idea that DF is an elaborate hoax...and that the 17min video we just saw, and all the people running the official website are just in it for the money...oh wait they wont be getting any $ from us until we play the game...then you have just completely gone off the deep end.
And they restarted in 2003, its fact. The company, razorwax, was developing the game and then it completely broke off and Aventurine took over.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Oh noes... just when some of the WoW vs WAR were gone now we have the Darkfall vs WAR threads.
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PPL. WHY CANT YOU JUST PLAY A GAME AND BE HAPPY WITHOUT THE NEED OF COMPARING IT TO OTHER GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The OP should get a ban and so should everyone with stupids comparison threads. I cant get into any war forum without seeing some stupid troll going someStupidGame vs WAR.
well, in darkfall's case, that game is never going to be released, so it's "fans" need to have something to do with the next 20 years of their life.... this is what they have chosen.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Oh noes... just when some of the WoW vs WAR were gone now we have the Darkfall vs WAR threads.
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PPL. WHY CANT YOU JUST PLAY A GAME AND BE HAPPY WITHOUT THE NEED OF COMPARING IT TO OTHER GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The OP should get a ban and so should everyone with stupids comparison threads. I cant get into any war forum without seeing some stupid troll going someStupidGame vs WAR.
This however is 100% correct...of course spare me the banstick.
Though as right as you are, its never going to end. People have lost touch with their love for video games and the internet allows them to be a badass behind their computer screen on forums.
Instead of having fun and following the games that interest us, everything has to be a battle. People have to discredit games that have no effect on them. Its insane.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Oh noes... just when some of the WoW vs WAR were gone now we have the Darkfall vs WAR threads.
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PPL. WHY CANT YOU JUST PLAY A GAME AND BE HAPPY WITHOUT THE NEED OF COMPARING IT TO OTHER GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The OP should get a ban and so should everyone with stupids comparison threads. I cant get into any war forum without seeing some stupid troll going someStupidGame vs WAR.
well, in darkfall's case, that game is never going to be released, so it's "fans" need to have something to do with the next 20 years of their life.... this is what they have chosen.
Again, maybe you didnt get the memo. That not cool anymore, all the hip kids have accepted the game is real and are attacking its chances of success. Youre welcome.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
havent there been about 4 darkfall beta signups? i wouldnt get too excited lads.
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
I think you are misunderstanding the whole situation, praising goes to when a company says "sorry we gotta give it another 6 months we need to polish out some more features" while this happens there is usually a closed beta happening already and they need more time, on DF's case they announced a release date -> 3 YEARS AGO<- then they announced a BETA and it was all a lie, now im gonna go with your delusion and agree that they decided they needed more time, EVEN if this was the case a company that announced a game 3 Years Before its ready is just a company that doesnt have a clue of WTF they are doing. Also if it was just to "polish " the game they would have released a gameplay video ages ago.
DF just shows how desperate the MMO community is, these people (Tasos & aventurine[if it even exists]) know how powerfull their concept is, no matter what they give out to the community everyone will be pretty excited about and they take advantage of that, but you will realize either when this game Launches or when it Doesnt , because even if it does there is no WAY its gonna have all of its concepts functioning.
The era of people coding good games with their mates in a dorm is gone, (I hate to bring WoW to the mix but its such a good example) do you think a company that's been delaying their release for the past 5-6 years promising betas, has absolutely no exterior financing, besides a Bank Loan the fanbois claim they had is gonna compete with a 50-60 Million dollar project? Think again.
Stopped reading here.
If people really can entertain the idea that DF is an elaborate hoax...and that the 17min video we just saw, and all the people running the official website are just in it for the money...oh wait they wont be getting any $ from us until we play the game...then you have just completely gone off the deep end.
And they restarted in 2003, its fact. The company, razorwax, was developing the game and then it completely broke off and Aventurine took over.
Occam's razor people...look it up.,
See you in game.
Lets put it this way, if Aventurine comes up with a Darkfall Online box with just a broken game you and other delusional fanbois will just buy it, thats all im trying to say, if you see darkfall online tomorrow on the shelves you WILL buy it, this is why Tasos continues to manipulate people like yourself because when its time to release he knows there will be people blindly buying it and ofc they will make some money out of it, sorry if you lack the common sense to realize this.
Anyway im off this discussion its pointless and i hope you enjoy DF, now stop posting on every other game forums and go post on your own DF forum, people here dont wanna hear about DF and Tasos delusions.
Firstly people if you do not want to read another War vs <insert other game title here> thread then ..... don't read it ! Strange concept I know but hey it stops people who are interested from having to disover the fact that words cause you pain.
Now back to this discussion. As has been previously mentioned Warhammer Online and Darkfall are two totaly different games. That said heres my own intake on the matter :-
Warhammer Pros
Coming out very soon
Has been through Beta and we all know whats coming
Solid purpose behind the PvP with definate goals and objectives. theres a good reasn for hunting down your enemies and making them bleed from their ears.
looks like fun and has a certain element of humour built in to counter the intrinsic darkness of the subject matter
Warhammer Cons
You will be limited, this isn't FFA irs RvR and as such your controled in who and what you can attack
The world may feel small as the intention is to get you to the fights as quickly as possible BUT I ahve no idea how large the actual zones are
Darkfall Pros
Limitless FFA PvP if you don't like him you can kill him
Large world filled with quests and areas to explore
Darkfall Cons
Unlimited PvP in a FFA format yes this is both a pro AND a con just look at what happened in the FFA areas in AoC to understand how bad this can be if not managed correctly
Vaporware the fact that these promises have all been heard before and came to nothing is remembered its going to take more than a video to convince people they are serious now
Just as War is possibly going to be considered to small. Darkfall may possibly be considered to large however like War the proof is in the pudding until we can actually feel the scale we can't really say either way.
Pros on both sides
Both have a fanbase which will allow them a actual chance to prove their credentials
Both have graphics which look reasonably good
Both offer the ability to customise your toon to match your laying style
Cons on both sides
Both have a fanbase which is extremely hostile to new ideas and the idea that their chosen game isnt the second coming of WoW.
In Conclusion
Lets give them both a chance they are different enough that they will not be in compertition with each other and their release dates are far enough apart that it won't be a one or the other decision to buy.
just my 2 cents
Gadareth
ps. if you read all of this well done have a cookie
Comments
If you think this looks cartoony then you need eye surgery
know any god eye surgeons? seriously the game has cartoonish graphics like wow did. WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE and obviously did great for WoW. I like the graphics in WAR a lot, but dont promote them as something they arent. We all know you are a big DF troll but cmon be serious.
yeah you need an eye surgeon. You're goint to sit there and tell me the above pic looks like this:
and you have the audicity to throw out the word "troll?"
Please man. That's called hypocrisy
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Fixed.
Darkfall might just be the next great sandbox. Who knows. Untill they actually get the player CB started not one single person know wtf DFO has for sure except the developers.
No one knows if its vaporware. No one knows if all these promiced features are there. On the other hand we do know what WAR has to offer. So anyone saying DFO > WAR is infact clueless. Regardless of being diffrent types of games DFO only has promices right now. WAR on the other hand is due for release and has shown what it has to offer.
I complain about the combat/animations in this game but omg. Darkfall is pretty much a 2/10. I'm sure maybe the gameplay is good though.
Two different games with different features. They will hardly compete with each other... they will compete for some pvpers but that's all.
One is a sandbox skill based with FFA PvP with full looting, very niche game. The other is a RvR level based one, which is obviously oriented to other target of players.
I think both games can be very succesful ones but I think they are not competing with each other too much.
I am happy we will have these two games as options to enjoy.
Well-said.
WAR has fun RvR but isn't nearly as deep as Darkfall. I can see Darkfall pulling a lot of people away from multiple games because of it's sandbox draw, deep crafting, and massive content. But WAR will do fine, it's fun to play just not as deep.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
You are a couple weeks late to make this comment...sorry to disapoint.
The hip thing to do now is to get on its graphics or chance of releasing smoothly. You're welcome
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
You are a couple weeks late to make this comment...sorry to disapoint.
The hip thing to do now is to get on its graphics or chance of releasing smoothly. You're welcome
i like that your sig shows that you do not understand what the definition of "vaporware" is; that truly adds a special something to your non-factual based argument.
that video changes nothing. the make-believe beta changes nothing. darkfall trolls running to other forums salivating and foaming at the mouth changes nothing. lots of nothing. sort of like darkfall.
gbtw.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
obviously you didn't watch the video...but thats cool
Thanks
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
obviously you didn't watch the video...but thats cool
Thanks
obviously, you don't know the definition of vaporware.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
you're welcome.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
you forgot that war is an actual game and will be on shelves within the month, whereas darkfall is just an urban legend.
you forget that your brain is stuck half way up your own ***
wow, if that's as intelligent as your arguments get; then, i can understand why a pretend-video with little (if any) game footage has you all riled up. grats!
how many DECADES will it take for you people to stop trolling about this darkfall nonsense?
In all honesty i cant wait until October, when people realize its another lie or this beta is just an empty shell with none of the promised features then maybe people can let it go, everytime Tasos throws a bone to the fanbois they come posting on every single forums like theyr announcing the Birth of Jesus.
game looks alright...
but the whole full loot thing on other players will ensure that this game will never hit it big...
could it be successful yes...but not as much as some peeps would belive...
just image your a newb....get ganked...loose your stuff...hit cancel button...
as for it beating out war...doubt that...warhammer has the ip that is really popular...
and the rvr and quests are done very nicely...
and from what i can tell for the video...all the higher graphics and other stuff goin round its gonna be a laggy game when you get too many peeps in one area...but then again they might get that right...
and always wait til after the closed beta starts and u get some info on it before u start praiseing the game...
didnt peeps learn this with aoc and dnl?
havent there been about 4 darkfall beta signups? i wouldnt get too excited lads.
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
darkfall scares people? wtf?????
firstly, i'm pro-gamer, not pro-specific-game. if a game is fun, i'm all for it. if a game is crap, i'm not for it. if a gaming company does right by it's customers, i'm all for them. if a gaming company does their (potential) customers wrong, i'm very much not for them.
but, at least you now understand darkfall is vaporware.
Vaporware is a somewhat derogatory term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar software/hardware product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.
it is the epitomy of the definition of vaporware.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
I think you are misunderstanding the whole situation, praising goes to when a company says "sorry we gotta give it another 6 months we need to polish out some more features" while this happens there is usually a closed beta happening already and they need more time, on DF's case they announced a release date -> 3 YEARS AGO<- then they announced a BETA and it was all a lie, now im gonna go with your delusion and agree that they decided they needed more time, EVEN if this was the case a company that announced a game 3 Years Before its ready is just a company that doesnt have a clue of WTF they are doing. Also if it was just to "polish " the game they would have released a gameplay video ages ago.
DF just shows how desperate the MMO community is, these people (Tasos & aventurine[if it even exists]) know how powerfull their concept is, no matter what they give out to the community everyone will be pretty excited about and they take advantage of that, but you will realize either when this game Launches or when it Doesnt , because even if it does there is no WAY its gonna have all of its concepts functioning.
The era of people coding good games with their mates in a dorm is gone, (I hate to bring WoW to the mix but its such a good example) do you think a company that's been delaying their release for the past 5-6 years promising betas, has absolutely no exterior financing, besides a Bank Loan the fanbois claim they had is gonna compete with a 50-60 Million dollar project? Think again.
Oh noes... just when some of the WoW vs WAR were gone now we have the Darkfall vs WAR threads.
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PPL. WHY CANT YOU JUST PLAY A GAME AND BE HAPPY WITHOUT THE NEED OF COMPARING IT TO OTHER GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The OP should get a ban and so should everyone with stupids comparison threads. I cant get into any war forum without seeing some stupid troll going someStupidGame vs WAR.
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
I think you are misunderstanding the whole situation, praising goes to when a company says "sorry we gotta give it another 6 months we need to polish out some more features" while this happens there is usually a closed beta happening already and they need more time, on DF's case they announced a release date -> 3 YEARS AGO<- then they announced a BETA and it was all a lie, now im gonna go with your delusion and agree that they decided they needed more time, EVEN if this was the case a company that announced a game 3 Years Before its ready is just a company that doesnt have a clue of WTF they are doing. Also if it was just to "polish " the game they would have released a gameplay video ages ago.
DF just shows how desperate the MMO community is, these people (Tasos & aventurine[if it even exists]) know how powerfull their concept is, no matter what they give out to the community everyone will be pretty excited about and they take advantage of that, but you will realize either when this game Launches or when it Doesnt , because even if it does there is no WAY its gonna have all of its concepts functioning.
The era of people coding good games with their mates in a dorm is gone, (I hate to bring WoW to the mix but its such a good example) do you think a company that's been delaying their release for the past 5-6 years promising betas, has absolutely no exterior financing, besides a Bank Loan the fanbois claim they had is gonna compete with a 50-60 Million dollar project? Think again.
Stopped reading here.
If people really can entertain the idea that DF is an elaborate hoax...and that the 17min video we just saw, and all the people running the official website are just in it for the money...oh wait they wont be getting any $ from us until we play the game...then you have just completely gone off the deep end.
And they restarted in 2003, its fact. The company, razorwax, was developing the game and then it completely broke off and Aventurine took over.
Occam's razor people...look it up.,
See you in game.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
well, in darkfall's case, that game is never going to be released, so it's "fans" need to have something to do with the next 20 years of their life.... this is what they have chosen.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
This however is 100% correct...of course spare me the banstick.
Though as right as you are, its never going to end. People have lost touch with their love for video games and the internet allows them to be a badass behind their computer screen on forums.
Instead of having fun and following the games that interest us, everything has to be a battle. People have to discredit games that have no effect on them. Its insane.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
well, in darkfall's case, that game is never going to be released, so it's "fans" need to have something to do with the next 20 years of their life.... this is what they have chosen.
Again, maybe you didnt get the memo. That not cool anymore, all the hip kids have accepted the game is real and are attacking its chances of success. Youre welcome.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
1 beta signup if i remember correctly.
And you guys have really lost touch with the MMO community. You should be PRAISING companies like this when they own up and say hey our game sucks right now, we could do better, and instead of putting this game out there and getting some income we are going to delay (or totally start over in DF's case) and do it right.
But hey if you like getting treated like AoC treated us, by all means, keep putting down games like DF for their decision.
I applauded WAR for how they handled the announcement that they were cutting classes. Absolutly profesional and even though they had my full respect already, they got even more of it somehow.
Not sure why DF scares people like it does, i mean its only vapor right? right...
I think you are misunderstanding the whole situation, praising goes to when a company says "sorry we gotta give it another 6 months we need to polish out some more features" while this happens there is usually a closed beta happening already and they need more time, on DF's case they announced a release date -> 3 YEARS AGO<- then they announced a BETA and it was all a lie, now im gonna go with your delusion and agree that they decided they needed more time, EVEN if this was the case a company that announced a game 3 Years Before its ready is just a company that doesnt have a clue of WTF they are doing. Also if it was just to "polish " the game they would have released a gameplay video ages ago.
DF just shows how desperate the MMO community is, these people (Tasos & aventurine[if it even exists]) know how powerfull their concept is, no matter what they give out to the community everyone will be pretty excited about and they take advantage of that, but you will realize either when this game Launches or when it Doesnt , because even if it does there is no WAY its gonna have all of its concepts functioning.
The era of people coding good games with their mates in a dorm is gone, (I hate to bring WoW to the mix but its such a good example) do you think a company that's been delaying their release for the past 5-6 years promising betas, has absolutely no exterior financing, besides a Bank Loan the fanbois claim they had is gonna compete with a 50-60 Million dollar project? Think again.
Stopped reading here.
If people really can entertain the idea that DF is an elaborate hoax...and that the 17min video we just saw, and all the people running the official website are just in it for the money...oh wait they wont be getting any $ from us until we play the game...then you have just completely gone off the deep end.
And they restarted in 2003, its fact. The company, razorwax, was developing the game and then it completely broke off and Aventurine took over.
Occam's razor people...look it up.,
See you in game.
Lets put it this way, if Aventurine comes up with a Darkfall Online box with just a broken game you and other delusional fanbois will just buy it, thats all im trying to say, if you see darkfall online tomorrow on the shelves you WILL buy it, this is why Tasos continues to manipulate people like yourself because when its time to release he knows there will be people blindly buying it and ofc they will make some money out of it, sorry if you lack the common sense to realize this.
Anyway im off this discussion its pointless and i hope you enjoy DF, now stop posting on every other game forums and go post on your own DF forum, people here dont wanna hear about DF and Tasos delusions.
Firstly people if you do not want to read another War vs <insert other game title here> thread then ..... don't read it ! Strange concept I know but hey it stops people who are interested from having to disover the fact that words cause you pain.
Now back to this discussion. As has been previously mentioned Warhammer Online and Darkfall are two totaly different games. That said heres my own intake on the matter :-
Warhammer Pros
Coming out very soon
Has been through Beta and we all know whats coming
Solid purpose behind the PvP with definate goals and objectives. theres a good reasn for hunting down your enemies and making them bleed from their ears.
looks like fun and has a certain element of humour built in to counter the intrinsic darkness of the subject matter
Warhammer Cons
You will be limited, this isn't FFA irs RvR and as such your controled in who and what you can attack
The world may feel small as the intention is to get you to the fights as quickly as possible BUT I ahve no idea how large the actual zones are
Darkfall Pros
Limitless FFA PvP if you don't like him you can kill him
Large world filled with quests and areas to explore
Darkfall Cons
Unlimited PvP in a FFA format yes this is both a pro AND a con just look at what happened in the FFA areas in AoC to understand how bad this can be if not managed correctly
Vaporware the fact that these promises have all been heard before and came to nothing is remembered its going to take more than a video to convince people they are serious now
Just as War is possibly going to be considered to small. Darkfall may possibly be considered to large however like War the proof is in the pudding until we can actually feel the scale we can't really say either way.
Pros on both sides
Both have a fanbase which will allow them a actual chance to prove their credentials
Both have graphics which look reasonably good
Both offer the ability to customise your toon to match your laying style
Cons on both sides
Both have a fanbase which is extremely hostile to new ideas and the idea that their chosen game isnt the second coming of WoW.
In Conclusion
Lets give them both a chance they are different enough that they will not be in compertition with each other and their release dates are far enough apart that it won't be a one or the other decision to buy.
just my 2 cents
Gadareth
ps. if you read all of this well done have a cookie