Which is better and why? At the Darkfall forums all I hear are biased comments I think this would be the only place to hear both sides. I'm not interested on your detailed analysis of which is less sandboxie, but which in theory or if you've tested any of them what was so great about the gameplay, as a casual or grind player which is funner to play? I guess only the faq's can give that answer in theory but I'm not sold on any hype, I'll try both games, glad they both at least have dwarves.
I wonder how many more of these threads will we have to suffer through. Also if you're going to try both games (as you stated) what's the point of asking in the first place?
Zero. There may be a thousand more of them, but you don't have to "suffer through" them, because you don't have to read them.
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My opinion of Darkfall has nothing to do with being a WAR fanboy or anything of the sort. I simply find it amusing when people refer to Darkfall as though it's actually going to be released. Even moreso, when people create threads comparing a game that is currently nothing more than an unproven list of features, to one that's finished, tested, and will be released in less than three weeks.
I'm not saying it will ever come out, but it is more than just a list of features. In fact, the extensive gameplay video they just released doesn't look that much worse than WAR, which is about to release. IMHO, WAR looks like ass....the lighting effects are basically nonexistent, and the animations are choppy as hell.
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My opinion of Darkfall has nothing to do with being a WAR fanboy or anything of the sort. I simply find it amusing when people refer to Darkfall as though it's actually going to be released. Even moreso, when people create threads comparing a game that is currently nothing more than an unproven list of features, to one that's finished, tested, and will be released in less than three weeks.
I'm not saying it will ever come out, but it is more than just a list of features. In fact, the extensive gameplay video they just released doesn't look that much worse than WAR, which is about to release. IMHO, WAR looks like ass....the lighting effects are basically nonexistent, and the animations are choppy as hell.
But it's just a video, and no one credible has ever played the actual game called Darkfall. Anyone can make a video.
Whereas thousands of beta testers have played Warhammer. Some like it, some don't, but it's not just a video.
You can only LOOK at videos, you can't actually play them like a game.
Which is better and why? At the Darkfall forums all I hear are biased comments I think this would be the only place to hear both sides. I'm not interested on your detailed analysis of which is less sandboxie, but which in theory or if you've tested any of them what was so great about the gameplay, as a casual or grind player which is funner to play? I guess only the faq's can give that answer in theory but I'm not sold on any hype, I'll try both games, glad they both at least have dwarves.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Which is better and why? At the Darkfall forums all I hear are biased comments I think this would be the only place to hear both sides. I'm not interested on your detailed analysis of which is less sandboxie, but which in theory or if you've tested any of them what was so great about the gameplay, as a casual or grind player which is funner to play? I guess only the faq's can give that answer in theory but I'm not sold on any hype, I'll try both games, glad they both at least have dwarves.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
This, plus Darkfall is skill based both with regards to no classes and also that combat is first person shooter like.
Also it has true sieging, not over NPC type cities, but your own cities that you have worked hard to build. Player Housing. Crop growing. Intricate player crafting. Total control over your characters path.
Which is better and why? At the Darkfall forums all I hear are biased comments I think this would be the only place to hear both sides. I'm not interested on your detailed analysis of which is less sandboxie, but which in theory or if you've tested any of them what was so great about the gameplay, as a casual or grind player which is funner to play? I guess only the faq's can give that answer in theory but I'm not sold on any hype, I'll try both games, glad they both at least have dwarves.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
This, plus Darkfall is skill based both with regards to no classes and also that combat is first person shooter like.
Also it has true sieging, not over NPC type cities, but your own cities that you have worked hard to build. Player Housing. Crop growing. Intricate player crafting. Total control over your characters path.
Which is better and why? At the Darkfall forums all I hear are biased comments I think this would be the only place to hear both sides. I'm not interested on your detailed analysis of which is less sandboxie, but which in theory or if you've tested any of them what was so great about the gameplay, as a casual or grind player which is funner to play? I guess only the faq's can give that answer in theory but I'm not sold on any hype, I'll try both games, glad they both at least have dwarves.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
This, plus Darkfall is skill based both with regards to no classes and also that combat is first person shooter like.
Also it has true sieging, not over NPC type cities, but your own cities that you have worked hard to build. Player Housing. Crop growing. Intricate player crafting. Total control over your characters path.
Plus,its a total vaporware.
Darkfall is COMMING!!!!
watch latest ingame non scripted movie, here on MMORPG.COM!!!!!!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Which is better and why? At the Darkfall forums all I hear are biased comments I think this would be the only place to hear both sides. I'm not interested on your detailed analysis of which is less sandboxie, but which in theory or if you've tested any of them what was so great about the gameplay, as a casual or grind player which is funner to play? I guess only the faq's can give that answer in theory but I'm not sold on any hype, I'll try both games, glad they both at least have dwarves.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
And you know this about Darkfall because you played it?
No contest warhammer. Its sucess will force darkfall publishers to push the game back to where it never releases.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
But majority not seems to understand difference between darkfall and warhammer it seems.
Darkfall=Hardcor free for all pvp with full loot in sandbox settings, so catered for hardcore.
Warhammer=Casual carebear pvp in a themepark settings, so catered for casual.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
No contest warhammer. Its sucess will force darkfall publishers to push the game back to where it never releases.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
My question about darkfall is it going to be full pvp or will they have pve servers because if its the ladder im sorry it will fail. Or at the least armor in the game doesnt mean anything because the game sounds like it will consume every moment of your life and dying and loosing all ur armor will not only make you destroy your computer but you might also pull your hair out. I like PvP but not really in mmo's. Because to be sucessful in PvP IMO you have to level up you have to play all the time or you will be passed by and you will always get PK'd by the jeark who is higher then you. I dont have that kind of time or commitment to a game and alot of even the hardcore fangirls of darkfall know this to be true aswell. Just the concept sounds good and looks good on paper doesnt mean when they implement it that it will flow so wonderful.
No contest warhammer. Its sucess will force darkfall publishers to push the game back to where it never releases.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
My question about darkfall is it going to be full pvp or will they have pve servers because if its the ladder im sorry it will fail. Or at the least armor in the game doesnt mean anything because the game sounds like it will consume every moment of your life and dying and loosing all ur armor will not only make you destroy your computer but you might also pull your hair out. I like PvP but not really in mmo's. Because to be sucessful in PvP IMO you have to level up you have to play all the time or you will be passed by and you will always get PK'd by the jeark who is higher then you. I dont have that kind of time or commitment to a game and alot of even the hardcore fangirls of darkfall know this to be true aswell. Just the concept sounds good and looks good on paper doesnt mean when they implement it that it will flow so wonderful.
It doesn't cater to you, fair enough.
That doesn't mean it will fail as there are a lot of people foaming at the mouth for this kind of game.
The actual gameplay maybe harcore but that doesn't mean it's no lifer game, in fact it's probably less so than grinders because it's not gear focused and doesn't have developer given goals.
No contest warhammer. Its sucess will force darkfall publishers to push the game back to where it never releases.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
My question about darkfall is it going to be full pvp or will they have pve servers because if its the ladder im sorry it will fail. Or at the least armor in the game doesnt mean anything because the game sounds like it will consume every moment of your life and dying and loosing all ur armor will not only make you destroy your computer but you might also pull your hair out. I like PvP but not really in mmo's. Because to be sucessful in PvP IMO you have to level up you have to play all the time or you will be passed by and you will always get PK'd by the jeark who is higher then you. I dont have that kind of time or commitment to a game and alot of even the hardcore fangirls of darkfall know this to be true aswell. Just the concept sounds good and looks good on paper doesnt mean when they implement it that it will flow so wonderful.
It doesn't cater to you, fair enough.
That doesn't mean it will fail as there are a lot of people foaming at the mouth for this kind of game.
The actual gameplay maybe harcore but that doesn't mean it's no lifer game, in fact it's probably less so than grinders because it's not gear focused and doesn't have developer given goals.
Well i do like the hardcore type games im just not down with full pvp. That is something very few people like in mmos. in FPS its all good everyone is equal and its all based on skill so it makes it fun but in a mmo ur not equal with the next man 99% of the time.
Originally posted by rikilii in FPS its all good everyone is equal and its all based on skill ....
Is it just me, or is this self-contradictory. If it's based on skill, it most certainly is NOT equal.
I'm sure what was meant is something to the effect of - in an fps you start on a level playing field as you are given the same tools as any other player. The deciding factor then becomes your playing skill (or ping )
in FPS its all good everyone is equal and its all based on skill ....
Is it just me, or is this self-contradictory. If it's based on skill, it most certainly is NOT equal.
I'm sure what was meant is something to the effect of - in an fps you start on a level playing field as you are given the same tools as any other player. The deciding factor then becomes your playing skill (or ping )
I know that's what he meant. Of course there's the counterpoint, that you can be "good" at PVP in MMOs without really being all that "good".
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I prefer sandbox so I'll be playing Darkfall. The RvR in WAR is a blast but it's not going to hold my long term attention like Darkfall. There's really no point arguing which is better though, they're completely different games.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
You can't compare the two. One is a sandbox, one is a little more linear. Don't even try to compare the two because all you'll get is flame wars. Darkfall: More "hardcore" because you have to work to have fun, and all your work can be taken away from an archer one-shotting you from a tree. Warhammer: More "casual" because you can have fun from the moment you pick up the game. Also, you're not forced to PvE, you can level and loot players (not full loot, they don't lose their gear but they drop money/items that you can pick up, just like an NPC) through PvP if you wanted.
What he said is basically right. Darkfall is gonna be more fun to me then Warhammer but I'll play that until it comes out someday, or if it ever does.
mmorpg's flop faster then mcdonalds cheese burgers these days.
The comparison is moot. One is a game in public beta and a release date. The other has no beta and no release date. You are comparing a legitimate piece of software with vaporware. Revisit the debate once the vaporware materializes and can be played.
So, are you saying that WAR was vaporware 6 months ago?
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The comparison is moot. One is a game in public beta and a release date. The other has no beta and no release date. You are comparing a legitimate piece of software with vaporware. Revisit the debate once the vaporware materializes and can be played.
So, are you saying that WAR was vaporware 6 months ago?
No WAR beta has been going on for over a year. WAR was never vaporware. They never had to prove they were not vaporware. Darkfall does, do to several canceled betas.
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I wonder how many more of these threads will we have to suffer through. Also if you're going to try both games (as you stated) what's the point of asking in the first place?
Zero. There may be a thousand more of them, but you don't have to "suffer through" them, because you don't have to read them.
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I'm not saying it will ever come out, but it is more than just a list of features. In fact, the extensive gameplay video they just released doesn't look that much worse than WAR, which is about to release. IMHO, WAR looks like ass....the lighting effects are basically nonexistent, and the animations are choppy as hell.
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I'm not saying it will ever come out, but it is more than just a list of features. In fact, the extensive gameplay video they just released doesn't look that much worse than WAR, which is about to release. IMHO, WAR looks like ass....the lighting effects are basically nonexistent, and the animations are choppy as hell.
But it's just a video, and no one credible has ever played the actual game called Darkfall. Anyone can make a video.
Whereas thousands of beta testers have played Warhammer. Some like it, some don't, but it's not just a video.
You can only LOOK at videos, you can't actually play them like a game.
You do realize you can't compare a world where you develope the world to one where the world developes you.
Really the op is just trying to get responses to a random comparison, and troll baiting fanboys.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
This, plus Darkfall is skill based both with regards to no classes and also that combat is first person shooter like.
Also it has true sieging, not over NPC type cities, but your own cities that you have worked hard to build. Player Housing. Crop growing. Intricate player crafting. Total control over your characters path.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
This, plus Darkfall is skill based both with regards to no classes and also that combat is first person shooter like.
Also it has true sieging, not over NPC type cities, but your own cities that you have worked hard to build. Player Housing. Crop growing. Intricate player crafting. Total control over your characters path.
Plus,its a total vaporware.
No contest warhammer. Its sucess will force darkfall publishers to push the game back to where it never releases.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
This, plus Darkfall is skill based both with regards to no classes and also that combat is first person shooter like.
Also it has true sieging, not over NPC type cities, but your own cities that you have worked hard to build. Player Housing. Crop growing. Intricate player crafting. Total control over your characters path.
Plus,its a total vaporware.
Darkfall is COMMING!!!!
watch latest ingame non scripted movie, here on MMORPG.COM!!!!!!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Darkfall is very hardcore with complex gameplay, free for all full loot.
And it looks much much better then warhammer watch new movie!!!!!
Its 100% sandbox
Warhammer=themepark with casual pvp for the mass, cartoony's and mediocre grafics.
And you know this about Darkfall because you played it?
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
But majority not seems to understand difference between darkfall and warhammer it seems.
Darkfall=Hardcor free for all pvp with full loot in sandbox settings, so catered for hardcore.
Warhammer=Casual carebear pvp in a themepark settings, so catered for casual.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
My question about darkfall is it going to be full pvp or will they have pve servers because if its the ladder im sorry it will fail. Or at the least armor in the game doesnt mean anything because the game sounds like it will consume every moment of your life and dying and loosing all ur armor will not only make you destroy your computer but you might also pull your hair out. I like PvP but not really in mmo's. Because to be sucessful in PvP IMO you have to level up you have to play all the time or you will be passed by and you will always get PK'd by the jeark who is higher then you. I dont have that kind of time or commitment to a game and alot of even the hardcore fangirls of darkfall know this to be true aswell. Just the concept sounds good and looks good on paper doesnt mean when they implement it that it will flow so wonderful.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
My question about darkfall is it going to be full pvp or will they have pve servers because if its the ladder im sorry it will fail. Or at the least armor in the game doesnt mean anything because the game sounds like it will consume every moment of your life and dying and loosing all ur armor will not only make you destroy your computer but you might also pull your hair out. I like PvP but not really in mmo's. Because to be sucessful in PvP IMO you have to level up you have to play all the time or you will be passed by and you will always get PK'd by the jeark who is higher then you. I dont have that kind of time or commitment to a game and alot of even the hardcore fangirls of darkfall know this to be true aswell. Just the concept sounds good and looks good on paper doesnt mean when they implement it that it will flow so wonderful.
It doesn't cater to you, fair enough.
That doesn't mean it will fail as there are a lot of people foaming at the mouth for this kind of game.
The actual gameplay maybe harcore but that doesn't mean it's no lifer game, in fact it's probably less so than grinders because it's not gear focused and doesn't have developer given goals.
They don't appeal to the same audiance so won't happen.
My question about darkfall is it going to be full pvp or will they have pve servers because if its the ladder im sorry it will fail. Or at the least armor in the game doesnt mean anything because the game sounds like it will consume every moment of your life and dying and loosing all ur armor will not only make you destroy your computer but you might also pull your hair out. I like PvP but not really in mmo's. Because to be sucessful in PvP IMO you have to level up you have to play all the time or you will be passed by and you will always get PK'd by the jeark who is higher then you. I dont have that kind of time or commitment to a game and alot of even the hardcore fangirls of darkfall know this to be true aswell. Just the concept sounds good and looks good on paper doesnt mean when they implement it that it will flow so wonderful.
It doesn't cater to you, fair enough.
That doesn't mean it will fail as there are a lot of people foaming at the mouth for this kind of game.
The actual gameplay maybe harcore but that doesn't mean it's no lifer game, in fact it's probably less so than grinders because it's not gear focused and doesn't have developer given goals.
Well i do like the hardcore type games im just not down with full pvp. That is something very few people like in mmos. in FPS its all good everyone is equal and its all based on skill so it makes it fun but in a mmo ur not equal with the next man 99% of the time.
I wouldn't say that very few people like FFA PVP. 700,000 of them bought AoC the vast majority of whom played on FFA PVP servers.
Anyway just have to wait and see, proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Is it just me, or is this self-contradictory. If it's based on skill, it most certainly is NOT equal.
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But it's just a video, and no one credible has ever played the actual game called Darkfall. Anyone can make a video.
Whereas thousands of beta testers have played Warhammer. Some like it, some don't, but it's not just a video.
You can only LOOK at videos, you can't actually play them like a game.
You could say the same thing about WAR 6-months ago. So whats your point?
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Is it just me, or is this self-contradictory. If it's based on skill, it most certainly is NOT equal.
I'm sure what was meant is something to the effect of - in an fps you start on a level playing field as you are given the same tools as any other player. The deciding factor then becomes your playing skill (or ping
)
Is it just me, or is this self-contradictory. If it's based on skill, it most certainly is NOT equal.
I'm sure what was meant is something to the effect of - in an fps you start on a level playing field as you are given the same tools as any other player. The deciding factor then becomes your playing skill (or ping
)
I know that's what he meant. Of course there's the counterpoint, that you can be "good" at PVP in MMOs without really being all that "good".
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I prefer sandbox so I'll be playing Darkfall. The RvR in WAR is a blast but it's not going to hold my long term attention like Darkfall. There's really no point arguing which is better though, they're completely different games.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
What he said is basically right. Darkfall is gonna be more fun to me then Warhammer but I'll play that until it comes out someday, or if it ever does.
mmorpg's flop faster then mcdonalds cheese burgers these days.
The comparison is moot. One is a game in public beta and a release date. The other has no beta and no release date.
You are comparing a legitimate piece of software with vaporware. Revisit the debate once the vaporware materializes and can be played.
So, are you saying that WAR was vaporware 6 months ago?
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So, are you saying that WAR was vaporware 6 months ago?
No WAR beta has been going on for over a year. WAR was never vaporware. They never had to prove they were not vaporware. Darkfall does, do to several canceled betas.