Ya, I have to admit, I find it odd that someone who so proudly proclaims that they’ve been playing SWG since 2003 could be so harsh on WAR.
I find it odd that you assume I still play SWG. And was I harsh? I think I took it easy on the game; a game that deserves to be ridiculed much more in depth than what I wrote.
Just wait another week or two (once the 'newness' wears off a bit).
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Actually, not at all. Only that I'm out $60.00 USD. But angry? You just imagine that I am.
Rather, you seem to be the one experiencing negative emotion.
Oh, and thank you (and just about everyone else who has posted) for showcasing for everyone the mature "Wow/WAR community."
Seriously, thank you.
If you hated WoW and you read up on WAR you should have realized that this wasn't the game for you. I dislike WoW, and AoC, but I still bought them and had a blast for the first month. I got my money worth for sure. The same with WAR I am having fun for now, and getting my moneys worth, but only the way end game plays out will tell if I actually like it or not for long term. I want a sandbox, and I want freedom, but I have found my moneys worth and then some in WAR.
All it would have taken is 10 minutes of your time to realize WAR wasn't for you in the first place. It would have been very simple. While I want the same kind of game I think you want I still think you are a tiny bit of a troll.
i couldnt ask for a better mmorpg. Ive been looking for one for a while.
I waited for vanguard, total letdown. Followed AoC, even bigger letdown.
Should have been scared about warhammer, but i knew that mythic couldnt screw it up, this guys did daoc. They pulled it off and then some.
Every class in this game has more abilities than 2-3 classes combined in other games. Each class plays totally different from the others in terms of attacking and such.
PvP is probably the best pvp game out. Entirely tactical and not about dps like just about every other game.
I'm just expressing my opinion(s) on the latest major MMORPG. If that makes me a 'tiny bit of a troll" because I'm in the minority opinion (this is the WAR forum, after all) then so be it.
It would be nice if we could just discuss the game (or even our opinions of it) without the Wow/WAR teens tearing my head off and slinging mud/insults at me.
But that's just a dream.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
I'm just expressing my opinion(s) on the latest major MMORPG. If that makes me a 'tiny bit of a troll" because I'm in the minority opinion (this is the WAR forum, after all) then so be it.
It would be nice if we could just discuss the game (or even our opinions of it) without the Wow/WAR teens tearing my head off and slinging mud/insults at me.
But that's just a dream.
Maybe if you gave the game an honest review and told us why you dont like it instead of trying to tell everyone else they wont like it then you might get some respect.Your thread title alone is asking for trouble.The teens you speak of here are prolly older then you pal....
Why is it that when people fork out £25 pounds for a game they expect it to be the love of their life...
I will probably just admit it... you could wrap a turd, put it in a box and call it Turds Of Crapworld Online, i would probably still fork out the £25 for the 'game' give it a go and when i was i realised it was sh-it i would stop playing and move on...
Does that make me a gullible idiot? no... I am a MMO fan who likes to try things out for myself... I liked my first month of AoC... thought it was awesome... second month a bit blah... stopped playing. Bought Vanguard after seeing the conflicting opinions of people... found it to be an impressive game... was awestruck at the world.. found it really fun. Crafting best i have encountered (personally). Diplomacy was a nice touch but didn't seem to be easy enough to keep it going without hitting walls... anyway... 2 months played i stopped...
Now i play WAR... got my gf playing it too... didn't think she would like the PQ's and PvP elements... she actually loves it.. PvP daft now... spent tonight defending a keep for 3 hours.. will this mean i'm a fanboi cause i enjoy a game for what it is... Nothing i've played so far is so easy to get in and out off action... stopped WoW because of Raiding being so time intensive.. EQII got to 55 before tiring of the levelling to 80.. In War i was in full scale open world pvp at lvl 7, and that was me being apprehensive...
Its not perfect... It wont fill my ever need and desire... but for the box price and monthly fee i think WAR is good value...
If you can afford to splurge £25 on it, try it... if not wait on trials... No MMO is perfect stop waiting for one.. try the ones you like and you know what, dont listen to what me, the OP or anyone else tells you, do what the hell ya want...
Hmm? A thread that made me sign up so i can reply.
After reading the thread , we all get he doesnt like the game. He (op) is mad 'cuz he felt he wasted his money. My first mmo was DDO. I think DDO is a great game personally, then AOC came along and snagged my attention. Went out got AOC played for a about a month. Didnt like all the gameplay bugs in it. Overall AOC loved it as long as I could play it. War i bought just decided to go and buy it to try it out. First impression was "man this looks like WOW" but went on to play for a while and realized it wasnt even close to WOW. Im only ranked 6. Now the op mentioned Char. customization being next to nothing.One poster said that op didnt play long enough to experiance the customization. Only extra for that that I saw was the dyes you get in game. ( so yeah a little bit limited oh well). Overall gameplay that i have experianced so far has been pretty good and fun. Still havent tried grouping up yet. Still getting used to gameplay mechanics for the moment.
So in the end the op didnt like the game big deal. Posts like that are gonna happen all the time. I know I played DDO and AOC. People are entitled to their opinions. SO let the haters be haters and the fanbois be fanbois.
I play WoW and War; they are two different games.. and although I am a PvE player, I find parts of War fun. I do think its the novelty/newness effect but time will tell. Im only about lev 15 atm so its still a bit of figuring.
I have to agree on the artstyle; it doesnt appear to be top notch with all the time theyve had to put into this game and reams of imagination from, you say 20 years of history? Could have been better.. the only interesting thing artwise is the armor of the Destruction side. Very very cool. Elven/Dwarven armor.. NOT impressive. And what are the humans wearing? Shiny rags? Again, its only lev 15 for me so I would hope they pick it up by 40.
There is good and bad here like every game obviously and I gave it an overall "personal" rating of 7/10. I think even the die hards understand this game is not all they expected it to be but cant be fully honest yet. I think even those know this is not a 9 or 10. Probably as this game develops, this can be a solid 8 or 8.75 out of 10.
One thing that is kind of disturbing though, is that the Warhammer community appears to be quite intelligent, having read a lot of the novels, played the board games (which would make you guys borderline DandD nerd/cousins?) I tend to think its a higher intellect crowd overall than the typical "WoW" pvpers.
But to see how this community so far on these threads treats someone who just expresses and opinion about a GAME they didnt actually make or don't date? Kind of shocking. Its one thing to counter the OP's arguments which some did very well, without getting personal. But it appears the majority resorted to personal attacks (retard, etc) over a game.
The one thing that will turn this game into a quick loser faster than any goldsellers, which have finally showed up btw, is a bad community rep. Mature adults will stay away from this and soon this will be populated with kids, just like the WoW zone.
If the mature Warhammer fans care at all about your image that is now being cultivated, please try and spread some of your class around to those who obviously are joining just to be" uber", all knowing and rude while they are doing it.
Some of the people posting here deserve a ban to be honest. I've been banned for a lot less than that around here. As usual with the WAR threads lately, this one too stink of fanboyism.
Anyway, what's wrong with player housing? Nice place to put all the crap you collect while out killing stuff. The art could've been better too. It's better than WoW's but still feel a little too cartoony.
You can make up your mind about a game in 15 minutes. You wont know what's in it for you later on, but if you hate it from the get-go, chances are low you will like it later. Try explaining that to a fanboy though
That Paul Barnett dude was the perfect choice to hype the game. He's fun to watch, energic and charismatic. Easy man to like. I however reserve all my opinions on the actual game, not the hype. I also wait a month or so before I buy a new mmo cause by then you have reviews out, lots of player feedback from both sides, a shitload of ingame videos which are sorely lacking in most games under development by the way. I feel player videos are alot more honest about a game too, than some professional edited and directed game video, or even worse, prerendered videos. Who cares about some pre-rendered crap anyway? They say nothing about the actual game.
I found it a little disapointing too when I found the game used instancing quite heavilly. I saw for me a mostly seamless world, where the only instancing was dungeons and sieges and maybe guildowned keeps.
Oh well, my copy in the post now so looking forward to try this one out. Mostly good feedback from both players and game sites. If it's not as good as I hope it is, atleast it will keep me occupied for a few months. No other mmo out there at the moment that I find interesting anyway. Bloody tired and burnt out on WoW. Raid, grind, altrolling and raid again. Did I mention the raiding? ..then arguing in guildchat cause he/she didn't get this and that epic. Or failed to heal good enough, or was a shitty dps under one bossfight. God damn it, I'm tired of the people turning into bloody kids when it comes to the loot in that game...argg..And now I derailed from the thread and gone off-topic...bleh
I have to say that I am one of the gamers that is very disappointed.
Art is subjective, but man, the game to me looks and feels like it was made for 8 year olds. I grew tired of it in 15 min much less can I imagine myself spending HOURS in this world. I understand that it's based on the Warhammer IP and this predates WOW by 20 years but I still don't like it. The art, in a word, sucks. The movement is VERY clunky and annoying. It's terrible. The character customization is a flat out JOKE. Not to mention the class choices left me unsatisfied. I found that there was not ONE SINGLE CLASS that I wanted to play. The way the zones are set up is especially uninspiring. Not only are they smallish, but there is only a tiny portion of it set aside for RvR. I just don't like the design as it feels like an afterthought; and it was, according to the developers (originally they planned to have instanced "scenario" battles only). Oh, and no player housing? No thanks. In fact, I'm kinda pissed I bought into the hype. Paul Barnett is a great personality and he hyped this game to the max. But it's just not fun to play. My 2 cents.
So let me understand, you want a game that, is graphically perfect, smooth animation, with a lot of character customization, and with player housing, huh? well go play the Sims 2... if player housing is so important to you...
ITT: lots of fanboys who can not actually reason, communicate or see a different view for what it is; a different view. They can not comprehend anything beyond "LOL", "ROFL", "ur mother" and other meaningless meme drivel.
The OP expected/hoped for an MMORPG with options, wide areas and depth (like DAoC of old), instead what he saw was a MMOPVP (MMOFPS?) with strict and confined areas that 'process' you to the next stage, a game without depth as it's catering for the short attentionspan ADHD/instant gratification folks (which make up the most of the people on this planet, so Mythic chose their target audience just right).
He hoped for DaoC 2, he got Guildwars 5.
If you want to discuss it or prove him wrong that's fine, but if you're not able to come up with a coherent post you're just another incapable fanboy. Flame all you want.
ITT: lots of fanboys who can not actually reason, communicate or see a different view for what it is; a different view. They can not comprehend anything beyond "LOL", "ROFL", "ur mother" and other meaningless meme drivel. The OP expected/hoped for an MMORPG with options, wide areas and depth (like DAoC of old), instead what he saw was a MMOPVP (MMOFPS?) with strict and confined areas that 'process' you to the next stage, a game without depth as it's catering for the short attentionspan ADHD/instant gratification folks (which make up the most of the people on this planet, so Mythic chose their target audience just right). He hoped for DaoC 2, he got Guildwars 5. If you want to discuss it or prove him wrong that's fine, but if you're not able to come up with a coherent post you're just another incapable fanboy. Flame all you want.
Maybe that's what he wanted to say. However when you start off a thread with the words "Don't waste your money (trust me)", you imply quite a few things more than what you said. You imply that anyone playing this game is an idiot (because after all, you wasted money on the game). So why so surprised if people get defensive? It's just another person who thinks his opinion is better than that of the rest of the players, hence why everyone should listen to him. Why? Oh right, because he's a Veteran-Player and has played MMO's for ages and was in 1337 Guilds and whatnot.
Maybe that's what he wanted to say. However when you start off a thread with the words "Don't waste your money (trust me)", you imply quite a few things more than what you said. You imply that anyone playing this game is an idiot (because after all, you wasted money on the game). So why so surprised if people get defensive? It's just another person who thinks his opinion is better than that of the rest of the players, hence why everyone should listen to him. Why? Oh right, because he's a Veteran-Player and has played MMO's for ages and was in 1337 Guilds and whatnot.
Yeah right.
On that you would be correct, yet people (like you do right now) should still be capable of discussion and being able to bring facts and reasoning to the table, instead of "LOL", "ROFL" and "GB2WOW".
I know it's kinda optimistic and non-realistic, but one can hope
ITT: lots of fanboys who can not actually reason, communicate or see a different view for what it is; a different view. They can not comprehend anything beyond "LOL", "ROFL", "ur mother" and other meaningless meme drivel. The OP expected/hoped for an MMORPG with options, wide areas and depth (like DAoC of old), instead what he saw was a MMOPVP (MMOFPS?) with strict and confined areas that 'process' you to the next stage, a game without depth as it's catering for the short attentionspan ADHD/instant gratification folks (which make up the most of the people on this planet, so Mythic chose their target audience just right). He hoped for DaoC 2, he got Guildwars 5. If you want to discuss it or prove him wrong that's fine, but if you're not able to come up with a coherent post you're just another incapable fanboy. Flame all you want.
Maybe that's what he wanted to say. However when you start off a thread with the words "Don't waste your money (trust me)", you imply quite a few things more than what you said. You imply that anyone playing this game is an idiot (because after all, you wasted money on the game). So why so surprised if people get defensive? It's just another person who thinks his opinion is better than that of the rest of the players, hence why everyone should listen to him. Why? Oh right, because he's a Veteran-Player and has played MMO's for ages and was in 1337 Guilds and whatnot.
Yeah right.
Nicely put... a lot of people think playing UO or EQ or even an MUD gives them the right to tells what we should want from a MMO... Since i started playing MMO's after hearing about WoW (yes, I played it, liked it and shall not be ashamed) from a fellow geek I have had 2 children since then, pretty much changes mywants and desires, i had given up on PvP and killing big bad bosses and then this came along and i've been doing both meaningfully since lvl 3-7.
As for graphics, i loved AoCs but took a lot of juice to play that normally and i lagged in cities. Vanguard was pretty but there was a lot of ugliness too it...
WAR is in my own opinion the chubby lass with the nice face and great personality that you might settle down with whereas AoC is the georgous one night stand that you had a great night with but next morning had your wallet and left you with an itchy undercarriage.
I'm just expressing my opinion(s) on the latest major MMORPG. If that makes me a 'tiny bit of a troll" because I'm in the minority opinion (this is the WAR forum, after all) then so be it.
It would be nice if we could just discuss the game (or even our opinions of it) without the Wow/WAR teens tearing my head off and slinging mud/insults at me.
But that's just a dream.
Actually, you do come across as a troll, since you fail to discuss any of the points other people have made against yours. You posted your opinion, others posted theirs contesting yours and then all you do is reply to smacktalkers.
But I have to state again (Think I posted in here already at some point), 15 minutes of playtime and already claiming it to be a waste of money simply means you didn't like WAR even before you fired it up for the first time. Its basically the same as me, an avid The Sims hater, telling people NOT to buy Sims.
Your opinion on this one is noted, but you have no right telling others it's a waste of money, since people that don't like WAR will know that before buying it (except for you, apparently).
And no, I'm not a 12-year old WoW teen, I'm a 27 year old (I'd rather say young) WAR-loving father.
ITT: lots of fanboys who can not actually reason, communicate or see a different view for what it is; a different view. They can not comprehend anything beyond "LOL", "ROFL", "ur mother" and other meaningless meme drivel. The OP expected/hoped for an MMORPG with options, wide areas and depth (like DAoC of old), instead what he saw was a MMOPVP (MMOFPS?) with strict and confined areas that 'process' you to the next stage, a game without depth as it's catering for the short attentionspan ADHD/instant gratification folks (which make up the most of the people on this planet, so Mythic chose their target audience just right). He hoped for DaoC 2, he got Guildwars 5. If you want to discuss it or prove him wrong that's fine, but if you're not able to come up with a coherent post you're just another incapable fanboy. Flame all you want.
Hmm strange how you can call a game lacking in depth when there is no way physically you could have gotten very deep into warhammer.
Just in case your forgetting, video games in all their forms are for the add/low attention span/ instant gratification crowd, in case you forget.
I havent played a mmo with more options, as far as what to do while playing, YET and ive played just about all of them, i find it hard to lable warhammer as offering strict and confined areas, as you can fly to any area you want, and the maps are frickin huge.
Its just these "reviews" from people who jump in, try a level or two, and then give a review like they know anything. You dont have to like warhammer but dont act like you actually know anything about the game playing it for such a short time.
So i guess this is another flame post by a fanboy, why? because im actually playing the game, and i have so much content, gameplay options, and things to occupy me in game that i have no idea how i could possibly experience it all.
This games got so much content, its makes me wonder what game or how long these "reviewers" who say its shallow, restricted, ect actually played the game...i guess i got the good version of warhammer....its a shame some people are too closed minded/too brainwashed by their current mmo to even give it a decent try.
you might not like it but you cant say its shallow,lacking in content, or restrictive.
ive really lost faith in the mmo community as a whole, even when a decent game comes out its made to look like its complete crap by bullshitters.
I cant wait untill darkfall comes out and you guys have to deal with this crap, hopefully by then people will have bored with trolling the WAR forums.
never understood the mentality of a mmo player who wants to see all mmos fail besides w/e one they are a fan of, its just plain stupid.
How would people know that WAR is not a full MMORPG before buying, DAoC had full blown RVR and THAT was a real MMORPG.
The sad fact is that DAoC's days are numberd. No new player wants to jump in to DAoC, have to pve grind to engame, and pve grind for gear to RvR, anyway most of DAoC's population is at endgame, who wants a boring solo pve grind just to get to the RvR?
This is where WAR improves that modle. PVE isnt as bad as the lv1-5 reviewers make it out to be, its just that you dont need it if you dont want it, its still there and theres a TON of content to it, you just have to go find it.
I played DAoC for a long time and i would have to completely disagree with your views comparing the two games. WAR is DAoC perfected, in my opinion.
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I find it odd that you assume I still play SWG. And was I harsh? I think I took it easy on the game; a game that deserves to be ridiculed much more in depth than what I wrote.
Just wait another week or two (once the 'newness' wears off a bit).
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Actually, not at all. Only that I'm out $60.00 USD. But angry? You just imagine that I am.
Rather, you seem to be the one experiencing negative emotion.
Oh, and thank you (and just about everyone else who has posted) for showcasing for everyone the mature "Wow/WAR community."
Seriously, thank you.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Lol you know better to attack fanboys the same month the game comes out, your living ont he edge.
As for the game I think its okay for lil kids and people new to the genre.
Actually, not at all. Only that I'm out $60.00 USD. But angry? You just imagine that I am.
Rather, you seem to be the one experiencing negative emotion.
Oh, and thank you (and just about everyone else who has posted) for showcasing for everyone the mature "Wow/WAR community."
Seriously, thank you.
If you hated WoW and you read up on WAR you should have realized that this wasn't the game for you. I dislike WoW, and AoC, but I still bought them and had a blast for the first month. I got my money worth for sure. The same with WAR I am having fun for now, and getting my moneys worth, but only the way end game plays out will tell if I actually like it or not for long term. I want a sandbox, and I want freedom, but I have found my moneys worth and then some in WAR.
All it would have taken is 10 minutes of your time to realize WAR wasn't for you in the first place. It would have been very simple. While I want the same kind of game I think you want I still think you are a tiny bit of a troll.
i couldnt ask for a better mmorpg. Ive been looking for one for a while.
I waited for vanguard, total letdown. Followed AoC, even bigger letdown.
Should have been scared about warhammer, but i knew that mythic couldnt screw it up, this guys did daoc. They pulled it off and then some.
Every class in this game has more abilities than 2-3 classes combined in other games. Each class plays totally different from the others in terms of attacking and such.
PvP is probably the best pvp game out. Entirely tactical and not about dps like just about every other game.
I'm just expressing my opinion(s) on the latest major MMORPG. If that makes me a 'tiny bit of a troll" because I'm in the minority opinion (this is the WAR forum, after all) then so be it.
It would be nice if we could just discuss the game (or even our opinions of it) without the Wow/WAR teens tearing my head off and slinging mud/insults at me.
But that's just a dream.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
I'm just expressing my opinion(s) on the latest major MMORPG. If that makes me a 'tiny bit of a troll" because I'm in the minority opinion (this is the WAR forum, after all) then so be it.
It would be nice if we could just discuss the game (or even our opinions of it) without the Wow/WAR teens tearing my head off and slinging mud/insults at me.
But that's just a dream.
Maybe if you gave the game an honest review and told us why you dont like it instead of trying to tell everyone else they wont like it then you might get some respect.Your thread title alone is asking for trouble.The teens you speak of here are prolly older then you pal....
Darkfall - Sick
Earthrise - Sick
Why is it that when people fork out £25 pounds for a game they expect it to be the love of their life...
I will probably just admit it... you could wrap a turd, put it in a box and call it Turds Of Crapworld Online, i would probably still fork out the £25 for the 'game' give it a go and when i was i realised it was sh-it i would stop playing and move on...
Does that make me a gullible idiot? no... I am a MMO fan who likes to try things out for myself... I liked my first month of AoC... thought it was awesome... second month a bit blah... stopped playing. Bought Vanguard after seeing the conflicting opinions of people... found it to be an impressive game... was awestruck at the world.. found it really fun. Crafting best i have encountered (personally). Diplomacy was a nice touch but didn't seem to be easy enough to keep it going without hitting walls... anyway... 2 months played i stopped...
Now i play WAR... got my gf playing it too... didn't think she would like the PQ's and PvP elements... she actually loves it.. PvP daft now... spent tonight defending a keep for 3 hours.. will this mean i'm a fanboi cause i enjoy a game for what it is... Nothing i've played so far is so easy to get in and out off action... stopped WoW because of Raiding being so time intensive.. EQII got to 55 before tiring of the levelling to 80.. In War i was in full scale open world pvp at lvl 7, and that was me being apprehensive...
Its not perfect... It wont fill my ever need and desire... but for the box price and monthly fee i think WAR is good value...
If you can afford to splurge £25 on it, try it... if not wait on trials... No MMO is perfect stop waiting for one.. try the ones you like and you know what, dont listen to what me, the OP or anyone else tells you, do what the hell ya want...
Wow, some serious e-peen flexing going on in this thread.
/popcorn
Hmm? A thread that made me sign up so i can reply.
After reading the thread , we all get he doesnt like the game. He (op) is mad 'cuz he felt he wasted his money. My first mmo was DDO. I think DDO is a great game personally, then AOC came along and snagged my attention. Went out got AOC played for a about a month. Didnt like all the gameplay bugs in it. Overall AOC loved it as long as I could play it. War i bought just decided to go and buy it to try it out. First impression was "man this looks like WOW" but went on to play for a while and realized it wasnt even close to WOW. Im only ranked 6. Now the op mentioned Char. customization being next to nothing.One poster said that op didnt play long enough to experiance the customization. Only extra for that that I saw was the dyes you get in game. ( so yeah a little bit limited oh well). Overall gameplay that i have experianced so far has been pretty good and fun. Still havent tried grouping up yet. Still getting used to gameplay mechanics for the moment.
So in the end the op didnt like the game big deal. Posts like that are gonna happen all the time. I know I played DDO and AOC. People are entitled to their opinions. SO let the haters be haters and the fanbois be fanbois.
I play WoW and War; they are two different games.. and although I am a PvE player, I find parts of War fun. I do think its the novelty/newness effect but time will tell. Im only about lev 15 atm so its still a bit of figuring.
I have to agree on the artstyle; it doesnt appear to be top notch with all the time theyve had to put into this game and reams of imagination from, you say 20 years of history? Could have been better.. the only interesting thing artwise is the armor of the Destruction side. Very very cool. Elven/Dwarven armor.. NOT impressive. And what are the humans wearing? Shiny rags? Again, its only lev 15 for me so I would hope they pick it up by 40.
There is good and bad here like every game obviously and I gave it an overall "personal" rating of 7/10. I think even the die hards understand this game is not all they expected it to be but cant be fully honest yet. I think even those know this is not a 9 or 10. Probably as this game develops, this can be a solid 8 or 8.75 out of 10.
One thing that is kind of disturbing though, is that the Warhammer community appears to be quite intelligent, having read a lot of the novels, played the board games (which would make you guys borderline DandD nerd/cousins?) I tend to think its a higher intellect crowd overall than the typical "WoW" pvpers.
But to see how this community so far on these threads treats someone who just expresses and opinion about a GAME they didnt actually make or don't date? Kind of shocking. Its one thing to counter the OP's arguments which some did very well, without getting personal. But it appears the majority resorted to personal attacks (retard, etc) over a game.
The one thing that will turn this game into a quick loser faster than any goldsellers, which have finally showed up btw, is a bad community rep. Mature adults will stay away from this and soon this will be populated with kids, just like the WoW zone.
If the mature Warhammer fans care at all about your image that is now being cultivated, please try and spread some of your class around to those who obviously are joining just to be" uber", all knowing and rude while they are doing it.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Some of the people posting here deserve a ban to be honest. I've been banned for a lot less than that around here. As usual with the WAR threads lately, this one too stink of fanboyism.
Anyway, what's wrong with player housing? Nice place to put all the crap you collect while out killing stuff. The art could've been better too. It's better than WoW's but still feel a little too cartoony.
You can make up your mind about a game in 15 minutes. You wont know what's in it for you later on, but if you hate it from the get-go, chances are low you will like it later. Try explaining that to a fanboy though
That Paul Barnett dude was the perfect choice to hype the game. He's fun to watch, energic and charismatic. Easy man to like. I however reserve all my opinions on the actual game, not the hype. I also wait a month or so before I buy a new mmo cause by then you have reviews out, lots of player feedback from both sides, a shitload of ingame videos which are sorely lacking in most games under development by the way. I feel player videos are alot more honest about a game too, than some professional edited and directed game video, or even worse, prerendered videos. Who cares about some pre-rendered crap anyway? They say nothing about the actual game.
I found it a little disapointing too when I found the game used instancing quite heavilly. I saw for me a mostly seamless world, where the only instancing was dungeons and sieges and maybe guildowned keeps.
Oh well, my copy in the post now so looking forward to try this one out. Mostly good feedback from both players and game sites. If it's not as good as I hope it is, atleast it will keep me occupied for a few months. No other mmo out there at the moment that I find interesting anyway. Bloody tired and burnt out on WoW. Raid, grind, altrolling and raid again. Did I mention the raiding? ..then arguing in guildchat cause he/she didn't get this and that epic. Or failed to heal good enough, or was a shitty dps under one bossfight. God damn it, I'm tired of the people turning into bloody kids when it comes to the loot in that game...argg..And now I derailed from the thread and gone off-topic...bleh
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
So let me understand, you want a game that, is graphically perfect, smooth animation, with a lot of character customization, and with player housing, huh? well go play the Sims 2... if player housing is so important to you...
Art and graphics are really important to some.
I could care less. I often turn my graphics down ot the lowest settings possible.
To me, game play is more important.
ITT: lots of fanboys who can not actually reason, communicate or see a different view for what it is; a different view. They can not comprehend anything beyond "LOL", "ROFL", "ur mother" and other meaningless meme drivel.
The OP expected/hoped for an MMORPG with options, wide areas and depth (like DAoC of old), instead what he saw was a MMOPVP (MMOFPS?) with strict and confined areas that 'process' you to the next stage, a game without depth as it's catering for the short attentionspan ADHD/instant gratification folks (which make up the most of the people on this planet, so Mythic chose their target audience just right).
He hoped for DaoC 2, he got Guildwars 5.
If you want to discuss it or prove him wrong that's fine, but if you're not able to come up with a coherent post you're just another incapable fanboy. Flame all you want.
Maybe that's what he wanted to say. However when you start off a thread with the words "Don't waste your money (trust me)", you imply quite a few things more than what you said. You imply that anyone playing this game is an idiot (because after all, you wasted money on the game). So why so surprised if people get defensive? It's just another person who thinks his opinion is better than that of the rest of the players, hence why everyone should listen to him. Why? Oh right, because he's a Veteran-Player and has played MMO's for ages and was in 1337 Guilds and whatnot.
Yeah right.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
On that you would be correct, yet people (like you do right now) should still be capable of discussion and being able to bring facts and reasoning to the table, instead of "LOL", "ROFL" and "GB2WOW".
I know it's kinda optimistic and non-realistic, but one can hope
Sounds like Nikoz has SWG Syndrome.
STOP WHINING!
Maybe that's what he wanted to say. However when you start off a thread with the words "Don't waste your money (trust me)", you imply quite a few things more than what you said. You imply that anyone playing this game is an idiot (because after all, you wasted money on the game). So why so surprised if people get defensive? It's just another person who thinks his opinion is better than that of the rest of the players, hence why everyone should listen to him. Why? Oh right, because he's a Veteran-Player and has played MMO's for ages and was in 1337 Guilds and whatnot.
Yeah right.
Nicely put... a lot of people think playing UO or EQ or even an MUD gives them the right to tells what we should want from a MMO... Since i started playing MMO's after hearing about WoW (yes, I played it, liked it and shall not be ashamed) from a fellow geek I have had 2 children since then, pretty much changes mywants and desires, i had given up on PvP and killing big bad bosses and then this came along and i've been doing both meaningfully since lvl 3-7.
As for graphics, i loved AoCs but took a lot of juice to play that normally and i lagged in cities. Vanguard was pretty but there was a lot of ugliness too it...
WAR is in my own opinion the chubby lass with the nice face and great personality that you might settle down with whereas AoC is the georgous one night stand that you had a great night with but next morning had your wallet and left you with an itchy undercarriage.
I'm just expressing my opinion(s) on the latest major MMORPG. If that makes me a 'tiny bit of a troll" because I'm in the minority opinion (this is the WAR forum, after all) then so be it.
It would be nice if we could just discuss the game (or even our opinions of it) without the Wow/WAR teens tearing my head off and slinging mud/insults at me.
But that's just a dream.
Actually, you do come across as a troll, since you fail to discuss any of the points other people have made against yours. You posted your opinion, others posted theirs contesting yours and then all you do is reply to smacktalkers.
But I have to state again (Think I posted in here already at some point), 15 minutes of playtime and already claiming it to be a waste of money simply means you didn't like WAR even before you fired it up for the first time. Its basically the same as me, an avid The Sims hater, telling people NOT to buy Sims.
Your opinion on this one is noted, but you have no right telling others it's a waste of money, since people that don't like WAR will know that before buying it (except for you, apparently).
And no, I'm not a 12-year old WoW teen, I'm a 27 year old (I'd rather say young) WAR-loving father.
How would people know that WAR is not a full MMORPG before buying, DAoC had full blown RVR and THAT was a real MMORPG.
Hmm strange how you can call a game lacking in depth when there is no way physically you could have gotten very deep into warhammer.
Just in case your forgetting, video games in all their forms are for the add/low attention span/ instant gratification crowd, in case you forget.
I havent played a mmo with more options, as far as what to do while playing, YET and ive played just about all of them, i find it hard to lable warhammer as offering strict and confined areas, as you can fly to any area you want, and the maps are frickin huge.
Its just these "reviews" from people who jump in, try a level or two, and then give a review like they know anything. You dont have to like warhammer but dont act like you actually know anything about the game playing it for such a short time.
So i guess this is another flame post by a fanboy, why? because im actually playing the game, and i have so much content, gameplay options, and things to occupy me in game that i have no idea how i could possibly experience it all.
This games got so much content, its makes me wonder what game or how long these "reviewers" who say its shallow, restricted, ect actually played the game...i guess i got the good version of warhammer....its a shame some people are too closed minded/too brainwashed by their current mmo to even give it a decent try.
you might not like it but you cant say its shallow,lacking in content, or restrictive.
ive really lost faith in the mmo community as a whole, even when a decent game comes out its made to look like its complete crap by bullshitters.
I cant wait untill darkfall comes out and you guys have to deal with this crap, hopefully by then people will have bored with trolling the WAR forums.
never understood the mentality of a mmo player who wants to see all mmos fail besides w/e one they are a fan of, its just plain stupid.
can i have your stuff lol?
AWEG RJN
The sad fact is that DAoC's days are numberd. No new player wants to jump in to DAoC, have to pve grind to engame, and pve grind for gear to RvR, anyway most of DAoC's population is at endgame, who wants a boring solo pve grind just to get to the RvR?
This is where WAR improves that modle. PVE isnt as bad as the lv1-5 reviewers make it out to be, its just that you dont need it if you dont want it, its still there and theres a TON of content to it, you just have to go find it.
I played DAoC for a long time and i would have to completely disagree with your views comparing the two games. WAR is DAoC perfected, in my opinion.