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Anyone see a Warhammer Online impact?
saint4God
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It was opening weekend for WAR, as I understand it. Has anyone seen a change in World of Warcraft related to it? If so, what changed? If not, why do you think there wasn't?
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I play both, and haven't seen an impact at all on my server of Archimonde.
Not a single player from my guild quit for WAR...... not even 1, we had a few trying WAR like I am.... None have left or likely to leave.
After 2 days of WAR, I really like the game. It is very fun, and RvR is just as fun as it was in old DAoC times.
The sad truth is, it still isn't as good as WOW.
It just isn't, I know people are sick of WoW, it's just WAR isn't going to deliver anything that is going to snatch up players from WoW.
I will admit to having more fun with WAR is regards to pvp, however WoW's PvE and Raiding still poops on WAR.
PvPers are still the minority in gaming in comparison to PvE players, and WoW has the upper hand in this category.
Well that is my take on it.
I havent even logged into WoW since open beta started. I havent had the urge to log in, WAR is so much more fun for me at least. So IDK if there was any impact on my old server. Letting my WoW sub end and playing WAR from now on.
Interesting enough i saw an impact on lotro. I resubbed last week and saw a lot of people on trial accounts. I dont think its only a coincidence.
WAR is doing very well, and it is a popular game the server queues attest to that, but it hasn't dented WoWs prime demogrpahic, it has just given the disgrunteled PVPer a place to go. I do think that if they would have given more attention to the PVE and Crafting game that WoW would have seriouse issues with it population right now, It is only a matter of time before a devloprgets the combination right.
iam in a pickle i was in a state waiting on wotlk, played wow since beta and thought i would try war untill wotlk came out now i think iam gonna stick with it and let wow sub run out. I know some one said war raiding is not as good as wow (i wouldent know not got that far into war yet to compare) but that seems to be all there is to wow at the end game and if like me you dont like raiding as i think it takes to much time there is not much else.But hey if you like raiding there is plenty in wow (if you spend any more time than a 8-10 hours in a game per week you really need to get a life. sorry but its true)
Out of our guild (raiding BT/Sunwell) 2 people are trying WAR (including myself), although we are still subbed to WoW and join the raids. Most didn't even know what WAR was when there was a thread about it on the forum.
8-10 hours a week isn't a gamer. It's a noob who wants to be a gamer.
This is about 1 hour 1.5 a night over 7 days.
So by this we know that NO FFXI player has a life because it takes 1hr a night to just find a group in that game.
No WoW raider has a life as each instance can take well over an hour, most 2+ hours a night.
LotRO no life, raids are over an hour.
City of Heroes, Raids take 3-6 hours per run.
Everquest and Everquest 2 - min 2+ hours a run.
I dont think I need to go on any further,
Basically by your definition anyone who plays any MMO on planet earth is a no life loser....
Interesting.....
I may be a little oblivious because I'm an avid roleplayer. Most of the time I'm on an RP server and the few times I'm not I'm on an RPPVP one. Being that WAR doesn't sound like RP competition, this could be why I notice very little impact. I did notice Goldshire seemed a little quieter, the GuildRecruitment channel in the major cities a bit calmer, and less pointless spammage or antics going on. So for me it looks like a plus. This could also be school coming into full-swing, I don't know. I am inspired to do more on the RPPVP servers because I'm thinking those who enjoy gankdom may be taking a WAR break. I suspect they'll be back on November 13th.
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actually i think there´s more and more players coming to wow, maybe its the expansion being close to release duuno, but in grim batol at peak hours theres hundreds and hundreds of players, dailys pvp raids on the enemy faction capitals etc, i think when blizz release next subscriber numbers it will be way over 12million
gotta say though i would like to try warhammer but not so soon i went all over conan loved it first month but then ewww.....
War is getting a ton of people. I dont think most are from WoW though but from the other MMo's out there.
I really hope a chunk of WoW players move over though. It would force bliz to bring out better expansions or at least start work on another MMO.
After 4 years you get a single new class and the only real changes is more added grinds is not really impresive.
Everyone that I know that is still playing thinks of the game as a large social chat room now. Tehy log on. Burn 2-4 hours in a raid while chilling on vent then stand around in the middle of town talking or fooling around in the AH.
If the 1985 ford was the only car people ever bought and everyone defended it so extremely like people are defending wow we would all still be driving those and cars would never of improved.
Sometimes people need to remember that the best thing for a company is not to get to comfortable and then get lazy.
Why fix or improve something that is not broken?
Well. Because then you will never see the next best thing....
I agree that a mmo battle between 2 or more companies is just going to result in much higher quality games, lower subscription fees, better support and more content with every update.
If i was a wow fan i would be praying for some competition.
If warhammer is as fun as it is now in one year, i think your going to have that competition.
I think your going to start seeing a impact from warhammer, if and only if, the end game content and long term playablility shows to be as fun as it is at the start. Give warhammer a few months, if it proves to be a long term game your going to see the most closed minded wow fans start to notice warhammer and possible see what the hype is about.
if warhammer turns out to be boring after a month, expect no reasons to improve wow.
if warhammer turns out to be boring after a month, expect no reasons to improve wow.
Thank you. This is what has plagued WoW for 3 years now. Lets hope that they finally have a reason
I think lake wintergrasp is pretty awesome along with the new battleground. they are probably both directly related to Warhammer. IMHO.. wintergrasp goes past even what warhammer is trying to do. Much more complicated and more toys to play with ( fighter planes, bombers, moveable seige weapons, destructable buildings).. all of that is more than Warhammer offers.
Not that it matters, but Xfire showed no drop in wow playtime. Warhammer is clearly #2 though with about 600k subscribers, which is 1/10 the subscribers WOW has in EU and NA.
I'm like a lot of posters in this thread.. to me, warhammer was nothing great. Nowhere near the polish of wow, and nothing that really seemed all that innovative or cool
There will be hardly any impact on WoW because Wow is by far the better product. PVE, PVP and certainly MMORPG wise.
Look at the Lake Winter video thread and see what Blizzard has in store for World PvP. That kind of PvP is not even remotely possible with WAR.
Look at the complete lack of intelligence in the mobs/bosses of WAR PVE and you would ask yourself : is this possible in 2008?
Not a sane person is going to give up his epic flying mount to fly over Outland and Northrend just to run around in a stuttering world with badly animated Elves and Humans. PvP is one big zerg fest with absolutly NO control of your avatar in WAR. In Wow you ARE your character ,in War you try to play with a figure in front of you. The difference is staggering.
Creating hype is one thing - delevering the real game is another thing.
Every copy sold of WAR is a free publicity for WotLK. Nov 13 will just prove this.
Seen no impact on my main server at all, in fact, there has been either a population growth in the last couple of months or people are a lot more active at least. My brother gave up the game about 18 months ago and has opened a new account just over a week ago (linked account XP is great
I think the major sufferers will be the smaller niche MMO's to be honest, although i would expect WoW to lose some players, it will be more than countered by new and reactivated accounts on or before WoTLK release.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
To be honest the way WoW is set up, the only real way you'd notice if people are going is if they are in your guild.
My entire guild went to WAR, so with them I go. So far it's a pretty good game, not the end all be all. But certainly funner than WoW, but that might be because it's new. We'll see in the coming months.
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.
I think you've reposted this a few times or copied it from someone else. Anyways, I'm pretty sure you either haven't played the game or you had tried it a few years ago in much earlier betas.
I've tried to crush computers with this game ranging from $400-$1700 comps and every single one ran the game @ 1680x1050 w/ 2x2 SSAA and 8-16AF (not much of a difference) at 60+FPS all over the place during the last patch of beta and open beta as well as after release.
Animations? Seriously, neither game is good. When you're strafing in the game your bottom half is moving while your torso is pretty much still and your arms just go flailing while you're spamming Mortal Strike. Real nice animations there... Yawn.
You are your character? You are your character in every single game. If you're talking about first person mode, then um, you're a character in every single one of the MMOs out there buddy. You can play with a character in front of you in WoW too. Please refrain from talking about immersion because never once did I feel like I was helping the Horde out when I played as an Undead character and in PvP I didn't say, "Man, that's what I would do if I was my character! Yeah!". Not once and I went through nearly everything I possibly could for the storyline. So in my opinion, you take drugs.
The PvP is not a zergfest and actually requires skill. It is apparent you have played no other PvP centric games. Zergs are strong, yes, but player skill generally always overcomes as long as the numbers are not greater than 2.5:1 as well as with nice lag conditions. You may want to get a clue as to what coordination and a guild or friends are. They help a lot with games that are called MMO's, which stands for massively MULTIPLAYER online. That or try communicating with people because 9/10 the people playing WAR are people who are incredibly bored with WoWs simplistic approach to everything but an end-game raid of scripted events.
You spoke of WoTLK's one zone they're implementing... Yeah, that's world PvP, but not really. Since everything will be confined to there, guess what? It's not much more than another BG to be had, whereas battlse are coursing all throughout WAR's land masses. Nice try though.
WAR has yet to lag as bad as the beginning of Molten Core days or Shattrath on any of my clients computers both ISP and client side, so perhaps you may want to get a better computer or know what you're doing.
90% of the people in WoW do not understand the concepts of extending, pushing, and pulling. These are staple tactics used in any game where PvP actually matters. When you learn how to play a game with good PvP, please come back and talk about how you overcame the zerg through skill and coordination because people have been doing it for years.
I'm not even a fan of WAR hahaha and there's that much to say over World of Warcraft. I play Ultima Online, EVE Online, DAoC, and LoTRO in my off time. All of which offer an enjoyable experience incapable of being found in World of Warcraft. Follow the sheep to both games if you wish, I just hope you'd choose the better competitive game of WAR.
Oh and TsukieU, those lyrics from Flobot are cool but man I wish the flow was a little better hehe. The end of the sentences are too abrupt/hard I think.
Well the number of battle grounds running in my battlegroup seem unchanged if not increased?!
Just logged in at 11:10pm UK/GMT (12.10am server time) and took these screens. Imagine how many are running at 7pm =D
Heres an extra treat, a shot I took while playing wrath today. thats Arthus' fortress in the distance. ( click for hi-res)
I really don't understand people who are fanatic about 'their' MMO.
WoW was fun, but it isn't to me anymore. Maybe WotLK will change that, maybe not. WAR is fun for me now, and my guild agrees. So why are you so headstrong insisting that my opinion is wrong?
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.
Why does it even matter? Let people play the games they want to play.
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
To tekkaman/
You are the one with the 'I am the man" attitude
Well I am the man who actually playe(ed) both games (and LOTRO and TR and Vanguard and a lot of other shit ) and I can simply tell you.... that ...
NO other Fantasy MMORPG out there can touch the control feel of your Avatar like Wow does.
It is a known fact by most and denied by a few.
And it is by far the most important reason why Wow is played by so many.
If you would have followed the War development you would have known the developpers wanted to smooth out the fights and movements as good as possible. Months and weeks tuning of tuning.
Well they didn't succeed to touch the final stages of 4 year old Wow.
A WAR dwarf which takes a 16 step stairs in 4 passes, stays a dwarf which takes a 16 step stairs in 4 steps. Hence he floats over the terrain. But one example of so many quirky things in War. In WoW the dwarf takes the same stairs in 8 to 10 steps.
Small detail BIG difference when you're designing a 3D world.
Why is this guy still spreading false information?
WoW has 4.5 million NA+Europe subscribers. 5.5 million in Asia.
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart11.html
War has shipped 1.5 million copies to NA+Europe, we will see in an announcement soon (in less than a month) that all of these 1.5 million copies is sold out.
And you claim that Xfire doesn't show any drop in WoW play time? Look at the WoW graphics:
Aug 28 = 389k hours
Sep 18= 297k hours
Change from Aug 28 to Sep 18 = 24% decrease
War just ate about 24% of the WoW player base! (P.S I don't give a crap about Xfire)
Stop lying, it doesn't make WoW better!
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Nope havn't noticed an impact on the servers i play on either, and barely any i'm leaving for war posts on forums well from last time i checked -shrug-
I have read in the past people saying if they stop playing WoW they aren't going anywhere else, alot of people like blizzard games, they don't want to try anything else and nobody should be upset if they do or don't. War will have its people and that should be enough for them. People need to stop hoping WAR will fail and People need to stop Hoping WoW will die, its old already.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Why is this guy still spreading false information?
WoW has 4.5 million NA+Europe subscribers. 5.5 million in Asia.
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart11.html
War has shipped 1.5 million copies to NA+Europe, we will see in an announcement soon (in less than a month) that all of these 1.5 million copies is sold out.
And you claim that Xfire doesn't show any drop in WoW play time? Look at the WoW graphics:
Aug 28 = 389k hours
Sep 18= 297k hours
Change from Aug 28 to Sep 18 = 24% decrease
War just ate about 24% of the WoW player base! (P.S I don't give a crap about Xfire)
Stop lying, it doesn't make WoW better!
mmogchart is not accurate at all, i wish people wouldn't cling to it for information -sigh- and xfire is fail, i know you said you don't care aobut it but how many people actually use it? it could be 24% of 1000 players for all we know so yeah another thing to never trust.
I do know people have stopped playing till wrath comes out and people are always taking breaks from wow. since the pre-orders for wrath have pretty much completely sold out already i'm sure they will still have the millions of players they currently have, probably even get some players back.
Also know alot are playing the Beta so if your realm feels abit more empty there is a good chance they are playing beta heh, and when school started people also started logging in less -shrug-
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Really wish people would stop posting these shitty comparison threads. Even if its not your intention (which 90% of the time it is), anything with WAR and wow in the same post is a guaranteed flamefest.