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Here is why this game will fail miserably
TenSpotting
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http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20341
But Jacobs also believes that an independent studio like Mythic was in 2001 would not have that same ability in today's MMO market. Now, his company has the considerable backing of new owner Electronic Arts -- and those kinds of resources are necessary to compete in a post-WoW world, he says.
"Back in 2001, you didn't have to spend anywhere near the amount of money you do on an MMO now," he points out. "Look at what we spent on Camelot: $2.5 million developing it, $650,000 in marketing it. You couldn't spend that on a triple-A MMO now if your life depended on it! You just couldn't! It would get you nothing in terms of content."
For that reason, Jacobs sees a hard road ahead for smaller companies like Funcom, which earlier this year launched Age of Conan.
So Funcom is considered a "small" company. Haha
Than what does that make Aventurine? A company full of complete amateur developers who have never launched a single product on the market that anyone knows of let alone a MMORPG that is (on paper) supposed to be as feature rich as Wow? (ya right)
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I don't play WoW. Thanks anyway. I don't play any MMORPG's in fact.
(assuming that this game even gets out a public Beta period without having to deal with hundreds fo bugs and issues that keep it from launching for another 2 years)
this is exactly what's going to happen:
There will be lots of people jumping into the free test period to see what's up. They may even get lots of players off the bat.
Then after about a month the people that din't like it will be long gone and will never look back.
Then a little while after that when the "newness" starts to wear off and the people that get tired of the mindless repetative combat will also leave and never look back.
At about 6 months the player base will be no more than a few thousand accounts and in a years time the game will either go Free to play or shut down completely.
"As feature rich as Wow"? you don't have a clue.. wow has nowhere near as many features..
When DFO hits you like a truckload, you will create another alt here on mmorpg.com and hide in shame, it is good that DFO went with SCS so cowards like you cannot make an alt and hide.
FFA-PVP/Full loot will hurt people like you, bad. And still you will be there playing..
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I have nothing clever to say.
"As feature rich as Wow"? you don't have a clue.. wow has nowhere near as many features..
Thanks for demonstrating my point and how laughable this game truly is.
When DFO hits you like a truckload, you will create another alt here on mmorpg.com and hide in shame, it is good that DFO went with SCS so cowards like you cannot make an alt and hide.
and your basis this on WHAT EXACTLY.
This game has ye to prove that 99% of it's features are even there and playable 3 months away from a commercial launch
How funny is that?
Bookmarking this thread for a necro after DF is released.
I'll bring chili sauce to go with your words. Or would you prefer ketchup?
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Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.
you sound pretty clueless to be honest.
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"As feature rich as Wow"? you don't have a clue.. wow has nowhere near as many features..
When DFO hits you like a truckload, you will create another alt here on mmorpg.com and hide in shame, it is good that DFO went with SCS so cowards like you cannot make an alt and hide.
FFA-PVP/Full loot will hurt people like you, bad. And still you will be there playing..
I'm not gonna comment on the debate about the question -IF- Darkfall will deliver what they promise or not. I've stated many times over how I think on that subject, however, I would love to point out a little flaw of logic in the red highlighted part of the text and a little flaw of assumption many people seem to have.
It seems, most people believe that by limiting a server to one character per account, Darkfall will remain free of alts. Which is just really...really, naive to think these days. There will be alts. I've heard from numerous people that Aventurine is going to stop that, but I have never -EVER- gotten a logical way of -how- to stop it.
So, if you give me a way Aventurine can control alts, then I will believe this. But so far, I see nothing that would stop me or anyone else from having one "good" character and one "bad" character.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Pure speculation on your part.
There is no doubt that it'll have a hard time competing with such a relatively small budget but saying Darkfall will fail miserably is stupid to say the least. The game has been in production for years so a significant amount of money has gone into making sure everything at launch will be solid. It is far more feature rich than a game like WoW where it's the same shit over and over again.
Mindless repetitive combat? Getting mixed up with WoW I most def..
That being said, the game will gain momentum over time once people realize WoW, WAR, AoC, Aion, etc. are all trash and they actually have an alternative.
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Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
Based on what? A terribly amateur outdated looking video that shows nothing more than a functioning combat system? with animations that look like they were made by some high school student by hand??
Because Jacobs is the god of MMOs and his word is law? And what is that new trend? "Amateur"? It's not like a bunch of high school kids being like "Let's start learning C++ and make a awesome MMO, guys!" I think the recent videos, the fact they have deals with real companies, that they're co-producers of the ESWC prove that they're serious about this game and have earned the respect of their business partners. Which is much harder to earn than yours which requires just the EA logo and a shiny CG trailer. And what better is a multi-billion veteran like EA with a portfolio of shitty games than an new company with a promising title about to launch?
Pure speculation on your part.
There is no doubt that it'll have a hard time competing with such a relatively small budget but saying Darkfall will fail miserably is stupid to say the least. The game has been in production for years so a significant amount of money has gone into making sure everything at launch will be solid. It is far more feature rich than a game like WoW where it's the same shit over and over again.
Who's speculating now Mr Fanboy? At least my "speculation" is backed up by common sense thinking and comments from industry veterans.
Pure speculation on your part.
There is no doubt that it'll have a hard time competing with such a relatively small budget but saying Darkfall will fail miserably is stupid to say the least. The game has been in production for years so a significant amount of money has gone into making sure everything at launch will be solid. It is far more feature rich than a game like WoW where it's the same shit over and over again.
Who's speculating now Mr Fanboy? At least my "speculation" is backed up by common sense thinking and comments from industry veterans.
How about the fact that Darkfall will cater to a niche group of MMO players that in the recent past have had no game that truly satisfies what they want in a game (save Eve possibly)?
Sure, the WoW playerbase will stay strong. I never said this game will hit 5 million subscribers. I admitted Darkfall is the underdog in this situation due to a small budget. But the sole fact that this game will be refreshingly different from 90% of the games out there will give it the boost it needs.
That's common sense.
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Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
I have no problem with Darkfall , and I hope for its fans that it does well, but what is really gonna hurt this game is the rabid fanbois it has invading other forums and skewing polls with dummy accounts and pissing everyone else off. If you guys want your game to succeed ,(and judging by the commitment to it you have (and I admire that) I bet you do), stop the massive hating on every forum that isn't Darkfall ,and just keep the excitement level you guys have on the Darkfall forums. If by sheer will alone you could make a game great Darkfall would be epic with the energy of its fan base. Seriously guys Im not hating on you or anything, just trying to help. Good luck and I hope DF is everything and more that you want.
Pure speculation on your part.
There is no doubt that it'll have a hard time competing with such a relatively small budget but saying Darkfall will fail miserably is stupid to say the least. The game has been in production for years so a significant amount of money has gone into making sure everything at launch will be solid. It is far more feature rich than a game like WoW where it's the same shit over and over again.
Who's speculating now Mr Fanboy? At least my "speculation" is backed up by common sense thinking and comments from industry veterans.
How about the fact that Darkfall will cater to a niche group of MMO players that in the recent past have had no game that truly satisfies what they want in a game (save Eve possibly)?
Sure, the WoW playerbase will stay strong. I never said this game will hit 5 million subscribers. I admitted Darkfall is the underdog in this situation due to a small budget. But the sole fact that this game will be refreshingly different from 90% of the games out there will give it the boost it needs.
That's common sense.
Just to point out....this is not a -fact-. You have no idea how DF will be when it releases. It -AIMS- to cater to this group (and for their sake, I hope DF is everything it promises to be), but since we have never seen anyone actually playing the game, we can't know that yet.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
How is a Sandbox PvP game based on ideas from 1999 "refreshingly different" ?
Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with Horses and boats floating around.
As feature rich as WoW?
Darkfall have alot more features then WoW.
And Darkfall features isn't the carebear one's.
Have a nice day
How is a Sandbox PvP game based on ideas from 1999 "refreshingly different" ?
Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with Horses and boats floating around.
You had a half decent argument going up until this point.. But now, you're full of fail.
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Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
Pure speculation on your part.
There is no doubt that it'll have a hard time competing with such a relatively small budget but saying Darkfall will fail miserably is stupid to say the least. The game has been in production for years so a significant amount of money has gone into making sure everything at launch will be solid. It is far more feature rich than a game like WoW where it's the same shit over and over again.
Who's speculating now Mr Fanboy? At least my "speculation" is backed up by common sense thinking and comments from industry veterans.
How about the fact that Darkfall will cater to a niche group of MMO players that in the recent past have had no game that truly satisfies what they want in a game (save Eve possibly)?
Sure, the WoW playerbase will stay strong. I never said this game will hit 5 million subscribers. I admitted Darkfall is the underdog in this situation due to a small budget. But the sole fact that this game will be refreshingly different from 90% of the games out there will give it the boost it needs.
That's common sense.
Just to point out....this is not a -fact-. You have no idea how DF will be when it releases. It -AIMS- to cater to this group (and for their sake, I hope DF is everything it promises to be), but since we have never seen anyone actually playing the game, we can't know that yet.
You're right, before beta is started, they'll change it to a no-loot, consensual pvp only, instanced dungeons, auto-aim/attack, level-based, game.
Wtf was I thinking..
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Self-confessed DF fanboy. Finally a real ****ing MMO.
How is a Sandbox PvP game based on ideas from 1999 "refreshingly different" ?
Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with Horses and boats floating around.
Read the feature list and you'll understand.
Darkfall is very refreshing compared to the carebear games delivered last year's.
Have a nice one
How is a Sandbox PvP game based on ideas from 1999 "refreshingly different" ?
Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with Horses and boats floating around.
You had a half decent argument going up until this point.. But now, you're full of fail.
Really? In what way?
I think you see this game based on what you WANT IT TO BE rather than what IT REALLY IS which is nothing more than a glorified Shadowbane clone based on ideas from Ultima Online and Asheron's Call 1 seven + years ago.
Take a look at where Shadowbane and AC1 are right now.
Why are we arguing with someone who, openly admitted, that he does not play any MMO's. It's like seeing a newscaster who never played vide games, reviewing a game. It's pointless, a waste of time, and laughably hilarious.
No one can say what Darkfall will be like when it releases, how it will stand up to the big guys, and how it will last. Just as AoC was, everyone thought it would be awesome, this and that, but look now, people hate Funcom. They had plenty of money, and they delivered a broken, half finished, bugged game. And it was one of the most anticipated games.
My suggestion to the OP is rhis. If you don't play MMO's, then go elsewhere, because all you are here, is a troll with nothing better to do. Ypur speculation and words hold less sway, power, or opinion than someone who plays WoW.
A bit bitter, aren't we?
Fact is, a good portion of Darkfalls's -Fans- already celebrate the game as though it has already delivered everything they promised to when in fact, they have not. Fact is, until the game is actually released or at least in a public Beta, you have no idea if all of the features promised will be implemented and/or working. Fact is, all I am pointing out is that it is somewhat premature to say that DF will cater to a certain group of players like NO OTHER MMO when it is not out yet and you have no idea if it will have a successful launch, will be feature complete, will be playable, etc etc.
Don#t feel attacked all the time. I just want to urge a little caution in celebrating the victory before the checkered flag has been passed.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Just because I don't play MMORPG's NOW does not mean I haven't before. i've been playing MMORPG's and have played every major one since Asheron's Call 1.
Darkfall feature list, its a long one so i suggest you get some coffee -
www.forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43318
Long enough for you?
+ all the features unknown by now.
Have a nice day
And after this comment do you really think you're opinions hold any weight what-so-ever? lol