To the OP: It is obvious that you don't like the kind of game WAR is. You have your reasons, and I respect that. Feel free to let go of your anger, and move on to a game you do like. You're posting here has made your point. It's time leave the people who like WAR alone. Those of us who enjoy the game will never personally agree with your reasons for quiting, and those who don't enjoy WAR are only going to pile on a Troll bandwagon as if your post is some kind of validation of their hatred.
To the others attacking the OP: he has a valid reason why he personally does not enjoy WAR. No matter how much we enjoy playing it (and I'm playing Order on the Magnus server), he will not understand our position.
For me it is not a problem having a population imballance. I enjoy the challenge, because I and my guild are achieving our primary objective in the game, to have fun! It doesn't matter that we don't always dominiate in combat, we are still able to capture objectives, and keep destruction on their toes. I've noted several times in other threads that WAR is not PvE focused, it is PvP/RvR focused. Those players who try to solo groups of organized players, or who try to charge up to a stand up fight with a zerg, are going to lose fights. Those players who coordinate and work together as a team are going to consistently take non-keep open RvR objectives even with a party of 4-6, and even with a population imballance. I can't explain it better than that without giving away our guild's RvR tactics.
I encourage people who think that "team oriented" RvR might be fun play to overlook the OPs experience, because that is not the global experience for those of us playing Order. Please understand that of those people who enjoy the style of gameplay WAR presents, we are having a great time playing. If you already know that WAR is not your cup of tea, feel free to pass it by without comment. If you like what you see, I encourage you to give it a try and join in on the fun. It helps to be a sociable player, who likes team activities. If you know you don't like team oriented games, then WAR might not be for you.
I hope this helps.
p.s. in response to one of the posts above, my experience so far with my guild is that the youngest player is 23, with the majority of our guild being in their 30's and 40's. Guilds with mature and experienced game players are out there, you just need to look around a bit.
I posted here and also at warhammer alliance over a year before release that I was concerned about a trend simular to wow but actually looking to become much worse. That trend was the marketing of and appearance of destruction verses order havning the potential of creating a much worse pvp gap between destruction and order then there was even for horde / alliance. Fanboys scoffed and mods shuffled my thread away as delicately as possible and now here we are. You fanboys need to take off the blinders and learn your crap and start holding your developers accountable to this kind of stuff. Destruction looks 10 times more wicked than horde ever did and order looks quite the fairy. Destruction always appears dominant aggressor in vids and box art and gear and everything. I mean come on. What did you expect?
im not really feeling the imbalance. did a mix of world and scenario rvr at tier 2 today and made 4 levels in a short time frame, didnt loose a single match, at least, until about 5pm when the kids come home.... hmm im seeing a pattern,. schools end, games get less co-ordinated. so i extrapolate from that, that the OP is a kid, probably around 12, mybe 14, and needs to learn to work as a team along side the other 14y/os. try eating a banana 15mins before you start playing, they're good brain food yanno. try not being a dick to your team mates. try suggesting a tactic. suggest a tactic in every damned match you enter. TACTICS IN EVERY GAME YOU ENTER! TACTICS IN EVERY GAME YOU ENTER! TACTICS TACTICS. Funny thing is, I KNOW you got nothing from this post. you wont use any tactics. mr zerg zerg blurger blooh blah zergy zerg
Scenarios mean jack there nothing, this game is about World pvp where tactics mean nothing when your faceing 2 to 3 times your own number,.
If history has taught us anything, well...those of us that have actually read it. It's that numbers don't matter. You can beat a larger force with startegy, hard work, and a little luck. This is a game I know, but if the mechanis are the same for both sides, then it's possible.
Not to say you really don't enjoy WAR, or that you should quit / keep playing, but if you can't deal with, try a dest on your server to see the other perspective, If you enjoy it, fine. If not, then maybe the problem isn't with the game...
I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
Please I didnt read the other posts but someone must have said.. You bought a game with FREE 30 days and you quit NOW?
I was in closed beta all the way till launch. Yesterday I sent a bug in saying I have and this was no lie.. never got to see the ORDER side win in scenarios. Yet in closed beta forums (and its still posted there) others saying the order side always wins) I had to send in another one. I played 5 times last night and OMG we won 5 times in a row. HAHA HAD A BLAST!. Never give up never surrender.
I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
Please I didnt read the other posts but someone must have said.. You bought a game with FREE 30 days and you quit NOW?
I was in closed beta all the way till launch. Yesterday I sent a bug in saying I have and this was no lie.. never got to see the ORDER side win in scenarios. Yet in closed beta forums (and its still posted there) others saying the order side always wins) I had to send in another one. I played 5 times last night and OMG we won 5 times in a row. HAHA HAD A BLAST!. Never give up never surrender.
Op you have no clue what you missing.
As i've said before scenarios mean next to nothing there over all pretty even, it's World pvp thats dead most of the time now it just ends up with a handfull of order sitting in a camp taking pot shots at 15-20 bored destruction.
Somone said earlier that you cant mke a difference in RvR if you outnumbered 4 - 1. but that's not true, just organise like we do on our server and skirmish. Think of a real War, you dont just throw everything you have at the other side and fight till the death. You organise and take out strategic points and people. We ambush and take a player out from a group then root and run. Regroup and repeat. After while you find your enemies are spread out all over the battleground where 1 is visiting the healer, another two are running back to thier group, Another is handing a quest in while hes at the warcamp.
Before you know it they have 10 players spread out all over the land. we mop up and take our objective. Sometimes when your losing you have to stop and think different. you may be suprised.
Last night I played a handull of scenarios and lost 3 on the trot after joining and being the only one to defend our flag. the next 3 had the same person leading our warband and we won everyone easily. Elanor was her name and at the start of each battle she asked certain players to defend and even picked a tank and his defenders to go grab the des flag. it was the easiest 3 battles i have played in. Though i got minimal kills i still came out on top with renown compared to losing and finishing top kills.
RvR we had several instances where the same organisation has lead to results.
I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
Pointless the game was boreing as hell with no RvR happening and scenario's few and far between, I was more or less forced to PVE, if I wanted to PVE I would have bought wow.
I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
Pointless the game was boreing as hell with no RvR happening and scenario's few and far between, I was more or less forced to PVE, if I wanted to PVE I would have bought wow.
Friend i suggest getting into tier two then trying again, things are much better once you hit tier two. But dont just get to level 12 then think you can hold your own in RvR it's much tougher than scenarios...you either need a competent group to look after you or get into the second half of your tier.
Just a suggestion if you want to try again. If you just dont like the game then that wont work .
I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
Pointless the game was boreing as hell with no RvR happening and scenario's few and far between, I was more or less forced to PVE, if I wanted to PVE I would have bought wow.
Friend i suggest getting into tier two then trying again, things are much better once you hit tier two. But dont just get to level 12 then think you can hold your own in RvR it's much tougher than scenarios...you either need a competent group to look after you or get into the second half of your tier.
Just a suggestion if you want to try again. If you just dont like the game then that wont work .
My sw warrior was rank 20 so there goes that suggestion, been in a competent group can only go so far in leveling the playing field againest large groups.
How did you swap your level 20 Sw to 5 different servers? or did you have a level 20 on each of those servers? and if so then fair play mate but lets face it you must have pve most the time to get 5 chars to that level in that time.
My point was just that maybe you just chose a server where des is dominant and that if you decided to try another server and get to tier two you might be suprised. Dont get me wrong i know it's a pain, but sometimes you have to bend a little to get what you want.
Me, i'm not bothered either way, when i am losing or outnumbered i take it as a challenge. So i would stay, but if you not happy then change it.
I didn't lvl past 5 or so on the other servers I didn't need to they where more or less dead ,the only servers i've seen with any life in them are the ones with balanced pops which are few and far between.
The argument about chooseing a Des dominant server doesn't work either from my experience and from talking to other people Des completely dominant about 70-75% of the servers.If things don't change before the vast majority of players hit T4 Dest will be consantly siegeing order citys order players will then start leaveing the game in large numbers which will ultimately kill the game on most servers.
To be honest mate this thread seems a waste of time. people are trying to give you options but you just dont want to try them so no point. Players could name realms for you, but your just not happy with having to fight for it. I hope that they dont change anything as it's great as it is and if they change for it for the guys who want things evening up to make it easier for them then many others will leave.
You just can't keep both sides happy simple as that
I didn't lvl past 5 or so on the other servers I didn't need to they where more or less dead ,the only servers i've seen with any life in them are the ones with balanced pops which are few and far between. The argument about chooseing a Des dominant server doesn't work either from my experience and from talking to other people Des completely dominant about 70-75% of the servers.If things don't change before the vast majority of players hit T4 Dest will be consantly siegeing order citys order players will then start leaveing the game in large numbers which will ultimately kill the game on most servers.
Im sorry but your logic on all of this seems rather flawed. You say you have jumped around 5 servers in 4 days and complain about open rvr populations, yet you keep referring to these "vast majority" of players and servers. You have been on 5 servers, how could you know what the "vast majority" are doing? Have you tried rolling onto a high pop server for both sides? I am on 4 different high pop servers for both sides and there is plenty of open rvr that goes back and forth. In fact order seems to do pretty well on them. Makinig up statistics and claiming that people will leave in large numbers is best left to diviners and people with the actual numbers, not to guessing.
Your posts imply that you do not like this game and will not listen to others suggestions to solve the problems that you state you have, which seems to mean you made up your mind that this is not your game, and if so then its time to move along instead of beating a dead horse.
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You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit? If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.
Everyone wants to win. 50% will loose - constantly -. Losing doesn’t motivate . Lack of motivation is quit playing.
Downfall of arena, downfall of any PvP game.
Solutions ? I don't have any, not in Arena, not in RvR.
Serious problem for any paid MMORPG.
Developers should think about this. Arena costed Wow more players than needed because of this. Now they even raise the personal ratings. More losers, more complaining.
Simple solution is saying "it sucks" but of course that's only true for the looser, but he pays the sub.
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Given that I just flamed you in another thread I am now gonna give you a . Perhaps the most sensible, accurate post I have seen for a while.
To be honest mate this thread seems a waste of time. people are trying to give you options but you just dont want to try them so no point. Players could name realms for you, but your just not happy with having to fight for it. I hope that they dont change anything as it's great as it is and if they change for it for the guys who want things evening up to make it easier for them then many others will leave. You just can't keep both sides happy simple as that
So what if I try another realm it may solve my own playing experience but in the long run it'll just make things worse, we'll end up with a few high pop servers and the rest will die because all the players wanting to pvp will reroll to those servers.
Who said war was easy friend? All these kids want to win every scenerio and RvR battle and the second they don't win they feel they were not provided their God given right to win every match. Pathetic. I understand people coming and going for many reasons. But because you can't win?! Please, I play Order and we win over 50% of the time. I will admit that Destro is more popular right from the start and attracts more people, but Order being a slight underdog is no reason to complain. Form a guild, do something about it.
To be honest mate this thread seems a waste of time. people are trying to give you options but you just dont want to try them so no point. Players could name realms for you, but your just not happy with having to fight for it. I hope that they dont change anything as it's great as it is and if they change for it for the guys who want things evening up to make it easier for them then many others will leave. You just can't keep both sides happy simple as that
So what if I try another realm it may solve my own playing experience but in the long run it'll just make things worse, we'll end up with a few high pop servers and the rest will die because all the players wanting to pvp will reroll to those servers.
Makes absolutely no difference to me mate. As long as the servers that are available are high pop who cares how many of them there are? im 35 years old mate and dont give a monkey if a game has 10 mil subs or 100k subs, both numbers are enough to pay for upkeep so what else matters?
Agreed if this problem makes so many leave that subs fall below that then fair enough, but lets face it were nowhere near that. And reading the replies here it seems 50/50 that each faction are claiming dominance, heck even des players are on this same thread claiming that order on thier realm are more than competing. I think some of want to compete rather than have a big cauldron that we can only fight in if numbers are the same. put me 5 against 10 any day i dont mind....this is WAR not volleyball.
Order is constantly losing and outnumbered? Damn! Someone better go and inform the Chaos Waste and Avelorn servers, 'cause they breakin the norm.
destruction is just too visually appealing to not want to play them, but just wait 2 or 3 months when people start posting their career build guides on forum sites. Once people see that epic Guardian White Lion build, they WILL go to order. Or that perfect Ironbreaker tanking guide.
People wil play the ugly unpopular class if it has a good build smacked on it. People played Taurens in WoW just for the foot stomp. People will play Order in WAR just for [place future kick ass build here].
Can't say you've officially QUIT before you've even STARTED.
So I'm gonna have to turn you the cheek on this one
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I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan. I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.
You're just plain dumb, sorry but thats how I feel.
On our server we got steamrolled from HS up until yesterday. However it seems the balance is getting much better and I even saw a med-med status yesterday early afternoon.
We've been able to hold on to our one keep in T2 and we're working on getting the second now.
I know that patience is a virtue not currently in vogue but you're taking the lack of it to ridiculous levels. Tbh I'll even be a bit sad when population evens out because I really enjoyed playing the underdog but ofc it is way better for the game itself to get balanced.
.. and your argument that you cant get enough PvP as underpopulated side is totally ridiculous. While we were underpopulated I had literary ZERO wait times for scenaros. ZERO. Press button and you're invited instantly.
In addition we did plenty of base stealing in T1 - just gather 3-4 like minded individuals and go steal deserted bases for your realm.... but I'm sorry that's probably greek to you since you changed 5 servers withut bothering to actually get off your arse and help any of them.
With this attitude I really doubt this game or at least the Order faction is for you. Bye.
I love playing the underdog, and i have been playing Order since day 1, using my lvl 18 Runepriest on the open RVR server has been a lot of fun, we win as much scenarios as the destruction and even in the open we have been killing high lvl gankers when grouping, i really cant see why you are complaining.
Even in the lore of Warhammer, the order was always fighting against incredible odds...
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To the OP: It is obvious that you don't like the kind of game WAR is. You have your reasons, and I respect that. Feel free to let go of your anger, and move on to a game you do like. You're posting here has made your point. It's time leave the people who like WAR alone. Those of us who enjoy the game will never personally agree with your reasons for quiting, and those who don't enjoy WAR are only going to pile on a Troll bandwagon as if your post is some kind of validation of their hatred.
To the others attacking the OP: he has a valid reason why he personally does not enjoy WAR. No matter how much we enjoy playing it (and I'm playing Order on the Magnus server), he will not understand our position.
For me it is not a problem having a population imballance. I enjoy the challenge, because I and my guild are achieving our primary objective in the game, to have fun! It doesn't matter that we don't always dominiate in combat, we are still able to capture objectives, and keep destruction on their toes. I've noted several times in other threads that WAR is not PvE focused, it is PvP/RvR focused. Those players who try to solo groups of organized players, or who try to charge up to a stand up fight with a zerg, are going to lose fights. Those players who coordinate and work together as a team are going to consistently take non-keep open RvR objectives even with a party of 4-6, and even with a population imballance. I can't explain it better than that without giving away our guild's RvR tactics.
I encourage people who think that "team oriented" RvR might be fun play to overlook the OPs experience, because that is not the global experience for those of us playing Order. Please understand that of those people who enjoy the style of gameplay WAR presents, we are having a great time playing. If you already know that WAR is not your cup of tea, feel free to pass it by without comment. If you like what you see, I encourage you to give it a try and join in on the fun. It helps to be a sociable player, who likes team activities. If you know you don't like team oriented games, then WAR might not be for you.
I hope this helps.
p.s. in response to one of the posts above, my experience so far with my guild is that the youngest player is 23, with the majority of our guild being in their 30's and 40's. Guilds with mature and experienced game players are out there, you just need to look around a bit.
I posted here and also at warhammer alliance over a year before release that I was concerned about a trend simular to wow but actually looking to become much worse. That trend was the marketing of and appearance of destruction verses order havning the potential of creating a much worse pvp gap between destruction and order then there was even for horde / alliance. Fanboys scoffed and mods shuffled my thread away as delicately as possible and now here we are. You fanboys need to take off the blinders and learn your crap and start holding your developers accountable to this kind of stuff. Destruction looks 10 times more wicked than horde ever did and order looks quite the fairy. Destruction always appears dominant aggressor in vids and box art and gear and everything. I mean come on. What did you expect?
Scenarios mean jack there nothing, this game is about World pvp where tactics mean nothing when your faceing 2 to 3 times your own number,.
If history has taught us anything, well...those of us that have actually read it. It's that numbers don't matter. You can beat a larger force with startegy, hard work, and a little luck. This is a game I know, but if the mechanis are the same for both sides, then it's possible.
Not to say you really don't enjoy WAR, or that you should quit / keep playing, but if you can't deal with, try a dest on your server to see the other perspective, If you enjoy it, fine. If not, then maybe the problem isn't with the game...
Let the whiner go, he spells like a 5 year old, so.. who cares?.
Please I didnt read the other posts but someone must have said.. You bought a game with FREE 30 days and you quit NOW?
I was in closed beta all the way till launch. Yesterday I sent a bug in saying I have and this was no lie.. never got to see the ORDER side win in scenarios. Yet in closed beta forums (and its still posted there) others saying the order side always wins) I had to send in another one. I played 5 times last night and OMG we won 5 times in a row. HAHA HAD A BLAST!. Never give up never surrender.
Op you have no clue what you missing.
Please I didnt read the other posts but someone must have said.. You bought a game with FREE 30 days and you quit NOW?
I was in closed beta all the way till launch. Yesterday I sent a bug in saying I have and this was no lie.. never got to see the ORDER side win in scenarios. Yet in closed beta forums (and its still posted there) others saying the order side always wins) I had to send in another one. I played 5 times last night and OMG we won 5 times in a row. HAHA HAD A BLAST!. Never give up never surrender.
Op you have no clue what you missing.
As i've said before scenarios mean next to nothing there over all pretty even, it's World pvp thats dead most of the time now it just ends up with a handfull of order sitting in a camp taking pot shots at 15-20 bored destruction.
Somone said earlier that you cant mke a difference in RvR if you outnumbered 4 - 1. but that's not true, just organise like we do on our server and skirmish. Think of a real War, you dont just throw everything you have at the other side and fight till the death. You organise and take out strategic points and people. We ambush and take a player out from a group then root and run. Regroup and repeat. After while you find your enemies are spread out all over the battleground where 1 is visiting the healer, another two are running back to thier group, Another is handing a quest in while hes at the warcamp.
Before you know it they have 10 players spread out all over the land. we mop up and take our objective. Sometimes when your losing you have to stop and think different. you may be suprised.
Last night I played a handull of scenarios and lost 3 on the trot after joining and being the only one to defend our flag. the next 3 had the same person leading our warband and we won everyone easily. Elanor was her name and at the start of each battle she asked certain players to defend and even picked a tank and his defenders to go grab the des flag. it was the easiest 3 battles i have played in. Though i got minimal kills i still came out on top with renown compared to losing and finishing top kills.
RvR we had several instances where the same organisation has lead to results.
that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
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that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
Pointless the game was boreing as hell with no RvR happening and scenario's few and far between, I was more or less forced to PVE, if I wanted to PVE I would have bought wow.
I actually rolled order for one reason alone.
Instant scenario Q's
Loving it
that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
Pointless the game was boreing as hell with no RvR happening and scenario's few and far between, I was more or less forced to PVE, if I wanted to PVE I would have bought wow.
Friend i suggest getting into tier two then trying again, things are much better once you hit tier two. But dont just get to level 12 then think you can hold your own in RvR it's much tougher than scenarios...you either need a competent group to look after you or get into the second half of your tier.
Just a suggestion if you want to try again. If you just dont like the game then that wont work
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that's not a good excuse. why uninstall it? try to play other games, then go back.
you just have to feel missed by your character.
Pointless the game was boreing as hell with no RvR happening and scenario's few and far between, I was more or less forced to PVE, if I wanted to PVE I would have bought wow.
Friend i suggest getting into tier two then trying again, things are much better once you hit tier two. But dont just get to level 12 then think you can hold your own in RvR it's much tougher than scenarios...you either need a competent group to look after you or get into the second half of your tier.
Just a suggestion if you want to try again. If you just dont like the game then that wont work
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My sw warrior was rank 20 so there goes that suggestion, been in a competent group can only go so far in leveling the playing field againest large groups.
How did you swap your level 20 Sw to 5 different servers? or did you have a level 20 on each of those servers? and if so then fair play mate but lets face it you must have pve most the time to get 5 chars to that level in that time.
My point was just that maybe you just chose a server where des is dominant and that if you decided to try another server and get to tier two you might be suprised. Dont get me wrong i know it's a pain, but sometimes you have to bend a little to get what you want.
Me, i'm not bothered either way, when i am losing or outnumbered i take it as a challenge. So i would stay, but if you not happy then change it.
I didn't lvl past 5 or so on the other servers I didn't need to they where more or less dead ,the only servers i've seen with any life in them are the ones with balanced pops which are few and far between.
The argument about chooseing a Des dominant server doesn't work either from my experience and from talking to other people Des completely dominant about 70-75% of the servers.If things don't change before the vast majority of players hit T4 Dest will be consantly siegeing order citys order players will then start leaveing the game in large numbers which will ultimately kill the game on most servers.
To be honest mate this thread seems a waste of time. people are trying to give you options but you just dont want to try them so no point. Players could name realms for you, but your just not happy with having to fight for it. I hope that they dont change anything as it's great as it is and if they change for it for the guys who want things evening up to make it easier for them then many others will leave.
You just can't keep both sides happy simple as that
Im sorry but your logic on all of this seems rather flawed. You say you have jumped around 5 servers in 4 days and complain about open rvr populations, yet you keep referring to these "vast majority" of players and servers. You have been on 5 servers, how could you know what the "vast majority" are doing? Have you tried rolling onto a high pop server for both sides? I am on 4 different high pop servers for both sides and there is plenty of open rvr that goes back and forth. In fact order seems to do pretty well on them. Makinig up statistics and claiming that people will leave in large numbers is best left to diviners and people with the actual numbers, not to guessing.
Your posts imply that you do not like this game and will not listen to others suggestions to solve the problems that you state you have, which seems to mean you made up your mind that this is not your game, and if so then its time to move along instead of beating a dead horse.
Cheers!
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Everyone wants to win. 50% will loose - constantly -. Losing doesn’t motivate . Lack of motivation is quit playing.
Downfall of arena, downfall of any PvP game.
Solutions ? I don't have any, not in Arena, not in RvR.
Serious problem for any paid MMORPG.
Developers should think about this. Arena costed Wow more players than needed because of this. Now they even raise the personal ratings. More losers, more complaining.
Simple solution is saying "it sucks" but of course that's only true for the looser, but he pays the sub.
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Given that I just flamed you in another thread I am now gonna give you a
. Perhaps the most sensible, accurate post I have seen for a while.
So what if I try another realm it may solve my own playing experience but in the long run it'll just make things worse, we'll end up with a few high pop servers and the rest will die because all the players wanting to pvp will reroll to those servers.
Who said war was easy friend? All these kids want to win every scenerio and RvR battle and the second they don't win they feel they were not provided their God given right to win every match. Pathetic. I understand people coming and going for many reasons. But because you can't win?! Please, I play Order and we win over 50% of the time. I will admit that Destro is more popular right from the start and attracts more people, but Order being a slight underdog is no reason to complain. Form a guild, do something about it.
So what if I try another realm it may solve my own playing experience but in the long run it'll just make things worse, we'll end up with a few high pop servers and the rest will die because all the players wanting to pvp will reroll to those servers.
Makes absolutely no difference to me mate. As long as the servers that are available are high pop who cares how many of them there are? im 35 years old mate and dont give a monkey if a game has 10 mil subs or 100k subs, both numbers are enough to pay for upkeep so what else matters?
Agreed if this problem makes so many leave that subs fall below that then fair enough, but lets face it were nowhere near that. And reading the replies here it seems 50/50 that each faction are claiming dominance, heck even des players are on this same thread claiming that order on thier realm are more than competing. I think some of want to compete rather than have a big cauldron that we can only fight in if numbers are the same. put me 5 against 10 any day i dont mind....this is WAR not volleyball.
Quit WAR? Thanks for letting us know. Bye.
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Order is constantly losing and outnumbered? Damn! Someone better go and inform the Chaos Waste and Avelorn servers, 'cause they breakin the norm.
destruction is just too visually appealing to not want to play them, but just wait 2 or 3 months when people start posting their career build guides on forum sites. Once people see that epic Guardian White Lion build, they WILL go to order. Or that perfect Ironbreaker tanking guide.
People wil play the ugly unpopular class if it has a good build smacked on it. People played Taurens in WoW just for the foot stomp. People will play Order in WAR just for [place future kick ass build here].
Can't say you've officially QUIT before you've even STARTED.
So I'm gonna have to turn you the cheek on this one
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You're just plain dumb, sorry but thats how I feel.
On our server we got steamrolled from HS up until yesterday. However it seems the balance is getting much better and I even saw a med-med status yesterday early afternoon.
We've been able to hold on to our one keep in T2 and we're working on getting the second now.
I know that patience is a virtue not currently in vogue but you're taking the lack of it to ridiculous levels. Tbh I'll even be a bit sad when population evens out because I really enjoyed playing the underdog but ofc it is way better for the game itself to get balanced.
.. and your argument that you cant get enough PvP as underpopulated side is totally ridiculous. While we were underpopulated I had literary ZERO wait times for scenaros. ZERO. Press button and you're invited instantly.
In addition we did plenty of base stealing in T1 - just gather 3-4 like minded individuals and go steal deserted bases for your realm.... but I'm sorry that's probably greek to you since you changed 5 servers withut bothering to actually get off your arse and help any of them.
With this attitude I really doubt this game or at least the Order faction is for you. Bye.
I love playing the underdog, and i have been playing Order since day 1, using my lvl 18 Runepriest on the open RVR server has been a lot of fun, we win as much scenarios as the destruction and even in the open we have been killing high lvl gankers when grouping, i really cant see why you are complaining.
Even in the lore of Warhammer, the order was always fighting against incredible odds...