if i play with my mate, something i usely do.. we never loose ever. no matter what side.. (we havent lost yet atleast)
we win every time i play order.. i play private healbot (i play all 3 of them) to a ironbreaker..
we win every time i play destruction..i play black orc with private healer (shaman)
but to me it looks like order is afraid of pushing, and lets themselfs get pushed instead... but the good news is that if a tank start pushing, than many will follow..
1st of all, I can tell you right now, that WAR is the perfect game for more mature people, why? Because this is the 1st mmorpg you can actually play casual and accomplish something. So you can have a job and children and still enjoy the game.
Then about being underdog, I decided to play underdog on purpose, because we get more targets to kill. But as of now, most European servers are pretty balanced, meaning the servers are medium - high or high - full at worst, but alot of them are medium - medium.
Yes Order is a generally the underdog, but you wont see 2:1 ratio's, not happening. 4:3 perhaps, maybe 3:2 but not 2:1
I am on a medium ( order ) - high ( destruction ) server, but when we went for some keep taking the numbers were pretty balanced.
I think atm Destruction does have an edge, because more Destruction players started in headstart, so they have higher levels, but Order is catching up. And once everyone is level 40, it wont matter, and Order will get renown faster ( more scenarios to join , more targets to kill in RvR )
I even play on an Open RvR server, and sometimes we get rolled, but once we organize a bit, we are nearly unstoppable.
The game's population balance mechanics are pretty good, alot better then in DAoC and in DAoC I also played underdog and had loads of fun.
Finally, losing is not bad if you have fun while yer at it. This is what was done well in DAoC and also now in WAR. If you are underdog, just organize, Ninja a keep and then defend, the Overpopulated realm will ALWAYS attack, because they want to have a fght. So the underdogs have the safety and strength of the keep, while the attackers have the numbers.
Do a keep defense, even if you eventually loose, it is still loads of fun.
WAR is great for what it is, it is not a sandbox, nor a PVE raid game, it is an RvR game with casual PvE and I love it ! Even playing on one of the toughest servers and realms out there ( Order, Open RvR, Finuval Plain )
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I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan.
hope you dont quit rl like that too.. if things were ment to be easy where would the fun be?
im playing with order since day one and having a blast even if pvp.. but i like playing the underdog.
You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit? If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.
Actually it was the opposite way in WoW. Alli was favored over horde. There were few PvP servers with even ratios and even fewer that had a higher horde to alliance ratio. Smolderthorn was one of the horde favored servers and it was barely 2 to 1.
It's one of the reasons that cross server BG's was created. A lot of the horde players were having insane wait times to get into a BG match; while alli guys were rotating through very fast giving them an advantage in collecting pvp rewards over horde players.
I don't understand why people aren't taking advantage of the cloned servers. Do people understand that many of the servers have had thier characters cloned to other servers to help balance the sides? Mythic has taken messures to correct the balance and it seems like some people are completely ignoring it; while at the same time complaining that Mythic needs to do something about the balance. Um yeah, they have, how about taking advantage of the free transfer if you're one of the servers that had your character cloned, and if you're playing a destro toon stop complaining about the balance when your the fault of it to begin with. OP exclude of course, he at least didn't follow the bandwagon.
Cloneing the servers isen't going to fix anything all it will do is spread the small number of order onto even more servers makeing the population imbalance even worse.
1. Most people could care less about losing RvR objectives until they are close to level 40. Why slow down leveling except as a nice diversion. I'm not saying they are not missing out on things, but I understand it.
2. Come play on the Wasteland server, we are outnumbered but we have managed to take plenty of keeps. Yeah we lose them eventually, but its all part of players not bothering to waste time defending against a zerg push at lower levels.
When they say cloning servers it also lets new players join, that way you can compare the balance on tow different servers while not losing your progress. So yes it will make a difference if like the other guy said, you simply take advantage of it and use it.
Why are we even trying to help? none of the players who will stay will want the servers to turn into a huge even numbered pvp realm in any case. let the players who want that leave and find a game that suits them. i for one will leave if they change the game to make these people happy. I want challenge! i dont think i am entitled to compete with players that are better or more numerous than me. If i had it my way you wouldnt even get a boost in scenarios, simple...you want to join a tier two at level 12...then join! just dont cry when you finish with 15+ deaths and minimal renown.
It's like a new gaming society is coming along that doesn't like anything that challenges them. Bring back death penalty's, bring back camping, grinding, tiswas, and clips around the ear!
Hey why dont we start a thread of what we want bringing back? ill start.
bring back that Chilli cheese dip that walkers made 2 years ago!
This thread is pretty funny. 1st of all, I can tell you right now, that WAR is the perfect game for more mature people, why? Because this is the 1st mmorpg you can actually play casual and accomplish something. So you can have a job and children and still enjoy the game. Then about being underdog, I decided to play underdog on purpose, because we get more targets to kill. But as of now, most European servers are pretty balanced, meaning the servers are medium - high or high - full at worst, but alot of them are medium - medium. Yes Order is a generally the underdog, but you wont see 2:1 ratio's, not happening. 4:3 perhaps, maybe 3:2 but not 2:1 I am on a medium ( order ) - high ( destruction ) server, but when we went for some keep taking the numbers were pretty balanced. I think atm Destruction does have an edge, because more Destruction players started in headstart, so they have higher levels, but Order is catching up. And once everyone is level 40, it wont matter, and Order will get renown faster ( more scenarios to join , more targets to kill in RvR ) I even play on an Open RvR server, and sometimes we get rolled, but once we organize a bit, we are nearly unstoppable. The game's population balance mechanics are pretty good, alot better then in DAoC and in DAoC I also played underdog and had loads of fun. Finally, losing is not bad if you have fun while yer at it. This is what was done well in DAoC and also now in WAR. If you are underdog, just organize, Ninja a keep and then defend, the Overpopulated realm will ALWAYS attack, because they want to have a fght. So the underdogs have the safety and strength of the keep, while the attackers have the numbers. Do a keep defense, even if you eventually loose, it is still loads of fun. WAR is great for what it is, it is not a sandbox, nor a PVE raid game, it is an RvR game with casual PvE and I love it ! Even playing on one of the toughest servers and realms out there ( Order, Open RvR, Finuval Plain )
Greetings
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This thread is pretty funny. 1st of all, I can tell you right now, that WAR is the perfect game for more mature people, why? Because this is the 1st mmorpg you can actually play casual and accomplish something. So you can have a job and children and still enjoy the game. Then about being underdog, I decided to play underdog on purpose, because we get more targets to kill. But as of now, most European servers are pretty balanced, meaning the servers are medium - high or high - full at worst, but alot of them are medium - medium. Yes Order is a generally the underdog, but you wont see 2:1 ratio's, not happening. 4:3 perhaps, maybe 3:2 but not 2:1 I am on a medium ( order ) - high ( destruction ) server, but when we went for some keep taking the numbers were pretty balanced. I think atm Destruction does have an edge, because more Destruction players started in headstart, so they have higher levels, but Order is catching up. And once everyone is level 40, it wont matter, and Order will get renown faster ( more scenarios to join , more targets to kill in RvR ) I even play on an Open RvR server, and sometimes we get rolled, but once we organize a bit, we are nearly unstoppable. The game's population balance mechanics are pretty good, alot better then in DAoC and in DAoC I also played underdog and had loads of fun. Finally, losing is not bad if you have fun while yer at it. This is what was done well in DAoC and also now in WAR. If you are underdog, just organize, Ninja a keep and then defend, the Overpopulated realm will ALWAYS attack, because they want to have a fght. So the underdogs have the safety and strength of the keep, while the attackers have the numbers. Do a keep defense, even if you eventually loose, it is still loads of fun. WAR is great for what it is, it is not a sandbox, nor a PVE raid game, it is an RvR game with casual PvE and I love it ! Even playing on one of the toughest servers and realms out there ( Order, Open RvR, Finuval Plain )
Greetings
I agree with much of what you are saying and play a similar fashion myself. Lower population usually means you get instant PvP action when ever you want it. It may not always be balanced, but it is fun. I think population imbalance makes a much bigger difference than you portrait it. Even 4:3 odds are a pretty significant advantage to overcome. Not that you really said it was not big deal, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
The other thing is that causal does not equal mature. There are plenty of young people who play casual schedules just like older people do. Plenty of immature people play on a casual basis as well.
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if i play with my mate, something i usely do.. we never loose ever. no matter what side.. (we havent lost yet atleast)
we win every time i play order.. i play private healbot (i play all 3 of them) to a ironbreaker..
we win every time i play destruction..i play black orc with private healer (shaman)
but to me it looks like order is afraid of pushing, and lets themselfs get pushed instead... but the good news is that if a tank start pushing, than many will follow..
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This thread is pretty funny.
1st of all, I can tell you right now, that WAR is the perfect game for more mature people, why? Because this is the 1st mmorpg you can actually play casual and accomplish something. So you can have a job and children and still enjoy the game.
Then about being underdog, I decided to play underdog on purpose, because we get more targets to kill. But as of now, most European servers are pretty balanced, meaning the servers are medium - high or high - full at worst, but alot of them are medium - medium.
Yes Order is a generally the underdog, but you wont see 2:1 ratio's, not happening. 4:3 perhaps, maybe 3:2 but not 2:1
I am on a medium ( order ) - high ( destruction ) server, but when we went for some keep taking the numbers were pretty balanced.
I think atm Destruction does have an edge, because more Destruction players started in headstart, so they have higher levels, but Order is catching up. And once everyone is level 40, it wont matter, and Order will get renown faster ( more scenarios to join , more targets to kill in RvR )
I even play on an Open RvR server, and sometimes we get rolled, but once we organize a bit, we are nearly unstoppable.
The game's population balance mechanics are pretty good, alot better then in DAoC and in DAoC I also played underdog and had loads of fun.
Finally, losing is not bad if you have fun while yer at it. This is what was done well in DAoC and also now in WAR. If you are underdog, just organize, Ninja a keep and then defend, the Overpopulated realm will ALWAYS attack, because they want to have a fght. So the underdogs have the safety and strength of the keep, while the attackers have the numbers.
Do a keep defense, even if you eventually loose, it is still loads of fun.
WAR is great for what it is, it is not a sandbox, nor a PVE raid game, it is an RvR game with casual PvE and I love it ! Even playing on one of the toughest servers and realms out there ( Order, Open RvR, Finuval Plain )
Greetings
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
hope you dont quit rl like that too.. if things were ment to be easy where would the fun be?
im playing with order since day one and having a blast even if pvp.. but i like playing the underdog.
Lol you are pathetic
i dont think pathetic cuts it something worse
The truth is out there SOMEWHERE ?
Actually it was the opposite way in WoW. Alli was favored over horde. There were few PvP servers with even ratios and even fewer that had a higher horde to alliance ratio. Smolderthorn was one of the horde favored servers and it was barely 2 to 1.
It's one of the reasons that cross server BG's was created. A lot of the horde players were having insane wait times to get into a BG match; while alli guys were rotating through very fast giving them an advantage in collecting pvp rewards over horde players.
I don't understand why people aren't taking advantage of the cloned servers. Do people understand that many of the servers have had thier characters cloned to other servers to help balance the sides? Mythic has taken messures to correct the balance and it seems like some people are completely ignoring it; while at the same time complaining that Mythic needs to do something about the balance. Um yeah, they have, how about taking advantage of the free transfer if you're one of the servers that had your character cloned, and if you're playing a destro toon stop complaining about the balance when your the fault of it to begin with. OP exclude of course, he at least didn't follow the bandwagon.
Cloneing the servers isen't going to fix anything all it will do is spread the small number of order onto even more servers makeing the population imbalance even worse.
BYE!!!!
Two comments to the original poster:
1. Most people could care less about losing RvR objectives until they are close to level 40. Why slow down leveling except as a nice diversion. I'm not saying they are not missing out on things, but I understand it.
2. Come play on the Wasteland server, we are outnumbered but we have managed to take plenty of keeps. Yeah we lose them eventually, but its all part of players not bothering to waste time defending against a zerg push at lower levels.
When they say cloning servers it also lets new players join, that way you can compare the balance on tow different servers while not losing your progress. So yes it will make a difference if like the other guy said, you simply take advantage of it and use it.
Why are we even trying to help? none of the players who will stay will want the servers to turn into a huge even numbered pvp realm in any case. let the players who want that leave and find a game that suits them. i for one will leave if they change the game to make these people happy. I want challenge! i dont think i am entitled to compete with players that are better or more numerous than me. If i had it my way you wouldnt even get a boost in scenarios, simple...you want to join a tier two at level 12...then join! just dont cry when you finish with 15+ deaths and minimal renown.
It's like a new gaming society is coming along that doesn't like anything that challenges them. Bring back death penalty's, bring back camping, grinding, tiswas, and clips around the ear!
Hey why dont we start a thread of what we want bringing back? ill start.
bring back that Chilli cheese dip that walkers made 2 years ago!
I agree with much of what you are saying and play a similar fashion myself. Lower population usually means you get instant PvP action when ever you want it. It may not always be balanced, but it is fun. I think population imbalance makes a much bigger difference than you portrait it. Even 4:3 odds are a pretty significant advantage to overcome. Not that you really said it was not big deal, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
The other thing is that causal does not equal mature. There are plenty of young people who play casual schedules just like older people do. Plenty of immature people play on a casual basis as well.
Otherwise I enjoyed everything else you wrote.