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Is Obama taking the lead for good?
Libertasplz
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Obama has been gaining in the RCP average polling every single day for the last 10 days and Obama is now up anywhere from 2-9 points depending on the polling service you use.
Is this trend showing the end of the Republican chances of winning? Or is this just temporary in your view?
Debate plz.
(My personal opinion: Despite democrats tracking traditionally higher and performing more poorly in elections this election scenario is unique. People are feeling out Obama and once this passes they will vote for Obama in significant numbers, allowing him to win the election quite easily...300-230 type scenario).
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Well, most people aren't paying attention to politics yet. I feel it just MAY (note the MAY here) just go like the primaries: the more people know, the less they like.
had the primaries been in one day, at the end of the cycle, Hillary would have trounced him It was his early victories, when most democrats were ignorant about him, that caused him to get the nomination.
I feel it just might go that way again. We'll see though, since all the gravity is with the Democrats this year due to the economy and the unpopularity of Bush.
If Obama were a GOOD candidate, it wouldn't even be close at this point.
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I think people are still pissed at Bush. And McCain is acting and saying stuff thats making it look like he is going to be the next Bush so thats not helping either.
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Debates haven't started. Its been shown numerous times Obama isn't strong without a teleprompter.
Plus, many people don't even start paying attention until the debates.
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I agree Obama is not a good debater...he is too thoughtful and doesn't give canned answers. He is a lot like McCain that way...McCain actually provides a responsible answer instead of rhetoric.
However Obama looked bad against seasoned debaters like Hilary, Biden and Edwards. But McCain was routinely killed in the debates by Huckabee and against an overall weaker debate field.
I doubt this is really a McCain advantage.
Make that 11 days of Obama increasing his lead.
Yup, this, by all standards should be a democratic landslide year. If it were Hillary this wouldn't even be a horserace. Anyway, Rasmussen poll from the next day showed the lead dropping back down to two points. A lot of this has to do with sampling. The abc news poll was HEAVILY weighted towards the democrats (2/3).
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sampling. yep.
these 'tards are swaying opinion by tellin all, this is what everyone thinks.
besides, what are the 'undecided' numbers? 10-15 points?
i think you guys will be deflated soon enough- november.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
And the latest poll from gallup: 46-46.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Yup, this, by all standards should be a democratic landslide year. If it were Hillary this wouldn't even be a horserace. Anyway, Rasmussen poll from the next day showed the lead dropping back down to two points. A lot of this has to do with sampling. The abc news poll was HEAVILY weighted towards the democrats (2/3).
It it was Hillary we wouldn't be having this conversation because then the Democrats would have voted for a decent candidate. Also the Republican loony base would be busy self-destructing because the word Clinton brings up these conspiracy theories of men in black coats going around murdering people, which would have scared off the sane voters.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
Hehe,see you at the wall.
For some people, four walls are three too many: Stalin
So if the ABC news poll was heavily weighted towards the Republicans, what would it be then? Would that be sampling too?
Yup, this, by all standards should be a democratic landslide year. If it were Hillary this wouldn't even be a horserace. Anyway, Rasmussen poll from the next day showed the lead dropping back down to two points. A lot of this has to do with sampling. The abc news poll was HEAVILY weighted towards the democrats (2/3).
It it was Hillary we wouldn't be having this conversation because then the Democrats would have voted for a decent candidate. Also the Republican loony base would be busy self-destructing because the word Clinton brings up these conspiracy theories of men in black coats going around murdering people, which would have scared off the sane voters.
That's been my point through this whole discussion on these boards. I don't understand how even Demcrats can support Obama.
To respond to the last part -- that's just how the Democrat loony base has been over Bush -- even to the point of undermining us in the opening moves of WWIII. They would rather we lose to the Jihad than Bush have a good day.
This crap really needs to stop. This is the struggle of our lifetime. Dicker about the economy all you want, but on the war against the global Jihad, we need to be united.
That is my main problem with Obama. he still thinks we are fighting "two wars." We are fighting one war in many theaters and he is not helping -- he is undermining. Hillary at least takes this seriously. Bill does too.
fishermage.blogspot.com
So if the ABC news poll was heavily weighted towards the Republicans, what would it be then? Would that be sampling too?
huh? Either a poll is a reasonable poll or it is not. If they surveyed 2/3 more Republicans, then it would be a weak poll as well, obviously.
You seem to think I am a Republican. I'm not.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Yup, this, by all standards should be a democratic landslide year. If it were Hillary this wouldn't even be a horserace. Anyway, Rasmussen poll from the next day showed the lead dropping back down to two points. A lot of this has to do with sampling. The abc news poll was HEAVILY weighted towards the democrats (2/3).
It it was Hillary we wouldn't be having this conversation because then the Democrats would have voted for a decent candidate. Also the Republican loony base would be busy self-destructing because the word Clinton brings up these conspiracy theories of men in black coats going around murdering people, which would have scared off the sane voters.
That's been my point through this whole discussion on these boards. I don't understand how even Demcrats can support Obama.
To respond to the last part -- that's just how the Democrat loony base has been over Bush -- even to the point of undermining us in the opening moves of WWIII. They would rather we lose to the Jihad than Bush have a good day.
This crap really needs to stop. This is the struggle of our lifetime. Dicker about the economy all you want, but on the war against the global Jihad, we need to be united.
That is my main problem with Obama. he still thinks we are fighting "two wars." We are fighting one war in many theaters and he is not helping -- he is undermining. Hillary at least takes this seriously. Bill does too.
Well Obama is head and sholders above McCain.
The struggle of our lifetime? This Jihad? Osama is collapsing from within, he's facing criticism the Arab community (and not the nice ones, the crazies), the terrorists are self-destructing as we speak. Their philosophy is crazy, but that form of crazy is dead - a throwback to the inquisition and the crusades. We'll defeat them by spreading our culture, not by shooting at bodies, and our culture will spread - its superior.
This war was over before we fired a single shot, all we are doing is damage control as we watch them die out.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
Yup, this, by all standards should be a democratic landslide year. If it were Hillary this wouldn't even be a horserace. Anyway, Rasmussen poll from the next day showed the lead dropping back down to two points. A lot of this has to do with sampling. The abc news poll was HEAVILY weighted towards the democrats (2/3).
It it was Hillary we wouldn't be having this conversation because then the Democrats would have voted for a decent candidate. Also the Republican loony base would be busy self-destructing because the word Clinton brings up these conspiracy theories of men in black coats going around murdering people, which would have scared off the sane voters.
That's been my point through this whole discussion on these boards. I don't understand how even Demcrats can support Obama.
To respond to the last part -- that's just how the Democrat loony base has been over Bush -- even to the point of undermining us in the opening moves of WWIII. They would rather we lose to the Jihad than Bush have a good day.
This crap really needs to stop. This is the struggle of our lifetime. Dicker about the economy all you want, but on the war against the global Jihad, we need to be united.
That is my main problem with Obama. he still thinks we are fighting "two wars." We are fighting one war in many theaters and he is not helping -- he is undermining. Hillary at least takes this seriously. Bill does too.
Well Obama is head and sholders above McCain.
The struggle of our lifetime? This Jihad? Osama is collapsing from within, he's facing criticism the Arab community (and not the nice ones, the crazies), the terrorists are self-destructing as we speak. Their philosophy is crazy, but that form of crazy is dead - a throwback to the inquisition and the crusades. We'll defeat them by spreading our culture, not by shooting at bodies, and our culture will spread - its superior.
This war was over before we fired a single shot, all we are doing is damage control as we watch them die out.
This war has very little to do with Osama. That is the whole problem. This is a global struggle and has nothing to do with one man. Their philsophy is far from dead and we need to understand the depth and scop of what we are dealing with. This will probably be at least another twenty year struggle -- longer, maybe never, if we go your way. Our culture, our philosophy was supoerior to Nazism, but they almost took total control of Europe.
It is no throwback, it is a new combination of Marxism and Jihadism that is deadly, widespread, and very effective in gathering adherents, as well as kowtowing moderates into submission.
This is worse than Nazism, and is better financed. I can't expect you to appreciate the problem however, being as where you are coming from. All I can say is, had people read hitler's writings and paid them heed, we may never have needed 72 million dead from WWII.
All I cans ay is, you need to study more what they have been saying.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Oh, and Obama is no better than McCain. he is a McCain who doesn't know what he is doing, and is less honest.
As far as I am concerned, Sarah Palin is better than Obama. She has the same amount of experience (actually a bit more), and she seems to be a better person.
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So I guess the answer is so far: No, Obama hasn't taken the lead for good.
That settles that then! heh
That's why politics is my favorite spectator sport -- you never know what's gonna happen next.
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That's why politics is my favorite spectator sport -- you never know what's gonna happen next.
there are however, certain things you can rule out.
such as, mccain throwing his used 'depends' into obamas mug.
or obama, grabbing mccain in a headlock and giving him nuggies.
and palin, she probably wont be caught pulling a paris or lindsay, with a short upskirt pic.
dont forget about biden, he wont be...he definitely wont ever...hmmm, that fratboy- i would expect him to do all of the above.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
That's why politics is my favorite spectator sport -- you never know what's gonna happen next.
and palin, she probably wont be caught pulling a paris or lindsay, with a short upskirt pic.
Well she has her daughter for that.
This race has had so many twists and turns, to say that it is over at this point is silly and way too premature. This is one of the most unconventional presidential races I have ever seen. There are still going to be plenty of surprises popped on the American electorate. Whether or not it will be as close as the 2000 election, I can't say, but close elections have been the trend lately.
Gore lead.
Kerry lead in the polls tell the booths closed,last two election were Dem calls tell the votes were counted.
So Mc cain will go down in history as man that beats Obama.Its just to (close) to call
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Obama has now continued to expand his lead daily over the last two weeks. The RCP average is now 4.6%. Any thoughts on this trend?