Obama has been gaining in the RCP average polling every single day for the last 10 days and Obama is now up anywhere from 2-9 points depending on the polling service you use. Is this trend showing the end of the Republican chances of winning? Or is this just temporary in your view? Debate plz. (My personal opinion: Despite democrats tracking traditionally higher and performing more poorly in elections this election scenario is unique. People are feeling out Obama and once this passes they will vote for Obama in significant numbers, allowing him to win the election quite easily...300-230 type scenario).
He will win. There's nobody who is going to put the idiotic republicans in office again.
... Oh goddamn it. ... Sitting there in your climate-controlled room writing a message to me on the frikkin INTERNET about how humans are resistant to change is the height of insanity.
That is all I needed to know. I am dealing with an extremist.
You can't refute anything I'm saying, so you resort to Ad Homs. You're a little new to this entire 'debate' concept, aren't you?
I suggest you take some psychology and management courses to gain understanding about how humans think (normally and as a whole) and operate. How humans are indeed resistant to change.
I suggest you take some courses in how to intelligently defend your ideas. Your ideas are remarkably silly, and you have no real clue about how the real world functions, what America is like, or anything else. Your ideals are precanned from a book, and have never been examined.
When you are done, revive this post.
Until then, God Forgives You.
(Don't worry, I didn't report you)
Err, you're threatening me with the Internet Police?
Santa Claus forgives you, he promises you no coal this year.
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Obama has been gaining in the RCP average polling every single day for the last 10 days and Obama is now up anywhere from 2-9 points depending on the polling service you use. Is this trend showing the end of the Republican chances of winning? Or is this just temporary in your view? Debate plz. (My personal opinion: Despite democrats tracking traditionally higher and performing more poorly in elections this election scenario is unique. People are feeling out Obama and once this passes they will vote for Obama in significant numbers, allowing him to win the election quite easily...300-230 type scenario).
He will win. There's nobody who is going to put the idiotic republicans in office again.
He will probably win the popular vote but not the electoral just like in the other elections.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Obama has been gaining in the RCP average polling every single day for the last 10 days and Obama is now up anywhere from 2-9 points depending on the polling service you use. Is this trend showing the end of the Republican chances of winning? Or is this just temporary in your view? Debate plz. (My personal opinion: Despite democrats tracking traditionally higher and performing more poorly in elections this election scenario is unique. People are feeling out Obama and once this passes they will vote for Obama in significant numbers, allowing him to win the election quite easily...300-230 type scenario).
He will win. There's nobody who is going to put the idiotic republicans in office again.
He will probably win the popular vote but not the electoral just like in the other elections.
Given that there have only been a handful of examples of winning the popular vote but not winning in the Electoral College (the 2000 election being the most recent) it would appear that your facts are uncoordinated.
Right now, even conservative pollsters (in the old fashioned sense of "conservative", not the modern movement conservative sense) are showing Obama winning more than 280 Electoral College votes...more than enough to be sworn in as the next President.
Chances are good that he'll have more than 350 Electoral College votes.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
"You can't refute anything I'm saying, so you resort to Ad Homs. You're a little new to this entire 'debate' concept, aren't you? "
I did and you had to go into a rant and utter curses.
"I suggest you take some courses in how to intelligently defend your ideas. Your ideas are remarkably silly, and you have no real clue about how the real world functions, what America is like, or anything else. Your ideals are precanned from a book, and have never been examined."
Not as silly as yours.
My goodness, how can I explain myself of living a good life and good income and yet have no clue about life or America. I have traveled the world, served in two military services, have a graduate degree, and now have a very good income. But of course in your mind, I'm just making this up.
"Err, you're threatening me with the Internet Police?"
There you go again Joe, going to the extremes.
Here is some news for you, there have been some bans going on here in this sub-forum from reportings and I am informing you, if such a thing happened to you, it did not come from me.
Also please do control yourself, your last lines are considered Baiting.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
GALLUP's 'traditional' likely voter model shows Obama with a two-point advantage over McCain on Thursday, 49% to 47%, this is within poll's margin of error... Developing...
perhaps people are skeptical of obama. they say they'll vote for the noob with all the right phrases last month and this month- the noob who is offering everything and the kitchen sink for all but the 5-10%. but maybe, just maybe there is a chance, that once confronted with the most powerful lever in the free world- they wont pull it for obama- the more questionable candidate.
and of course the libs and dems here will throw the race cards in those peoples faces and mine, for even suggesting such a horrid scenario but the fact is,some people are not too sure of obama and all his grandeur-
we shall see but, things are not as clear as cbsnyt and media outlets everywhere want the majority to believe.
Fact: The majority of the world is in favor of Barack Obama.
I watched the debate last night and oh boy, McCain sounded like a broken record, having the same answer on different questions which was irrelevant as hell. I almost laughed my ass off when he tried to force some tears out when bringing up the attack regarding the segregation allegation by John Lewis, trying to paint himself as a victim, "demanding" Obama to repudiate that statement while he was asked questions not relevant to the subject, several times.
Obama gave answers relevant to the questions, sometimes it was mislead due to McCain straying off-topic, disrupting the debate by compulsively attacking Obama's character.
And what's up with that scribbling with a smirk on his face act? Oh boy, American politic is like Hollywood, but Obama seems to be trying to distance himself from the shallowness and focusing on the issues while McCain desprately clings on to the same ol' flame-o-rama. It's a freaking joke.
People should really try to distance themself from their party, and think rationally rather than let their convictions based upon their emotions rule their mind. Do you people actually know what being rational actually means? It's distancing yourself from your emotions while making up your judgement.
It is hard when you have such strong convictions and firm beliefs but if you put your mind too it, you can.
Both candidates are pursuing their own agenda, ultimately, to be president, it is not for your sake. But both are bestowed responsibilities, who do you think will comply to them the most? Both are men of good character, but who's intrests are they pursuing other than their own. The current administration were obviously pursuing their own intrests over the people, they did not intend to do a bad job but failed at keeping the balance.
What side of the scale will weigh the most , the people or McCain's, the people or Obama's? Put their promises aside because those are merely ads (every election have in every corner of the world have 80% more or less unforfilled promises) and do some research, who's backing who.
electoral projections done right www.fivethirtyeight.com/ Obama has a 95.8% win percentage. The reason I'm not misinformed by his fast talk is because I stand for his main positions. I support health care, better education, a net tax decrease, leaving Iraq... Also McCain/Palin.. there are so many things wrong with with having them in office...
"They do not include any spending reductions proposed by the candidates" - uh - so, I'm not really an expert on this stuff, but to me that sounds offhand like "so they're totally meaningless." Help? The figures still hold plenty of meaning in terms of how much (or how little) will be raised in taxes and how much of an impact that will have on any spending plans. McCain's off-the-cuff "freeze spending on everything except blowing shit up" might have to become a reality if he's to avoid taking the deficit through the roof (not that his plans will matter, if the polls are to be believed). i suspect it's really just a healthy dose of cynicism. politicians (even the 'honest', hellawezome ones) and "spending reductions" is a myth on par with the yeti, loch ness monster, etc. even so, I will be forwarding the link to several several little 'c' conservative (but otherwise sane) folks who like O, but are skittish about his lol tax & spend rep. Of course the Brookings Inst. collab is likely to elicit a sneer...
seriously, if you look at the four electoral projection sites I mentioned in this thread, I have no idea how people think McCain can win. also on cnn today, reporters said McCain needs every battleground state plus one blue state to win this election... I have no idea why people still think McCain can win outside of a huge voting scandal. Obama's win percentage is 94%, down 1% since last debate
But, knock on wood, I wont count my eggs until they hatched or however that silly quote goes..
Fact: The majority of the world is in favor of Barack Obama. I watched the debate last night and oh boy, McCain sounded like a broken record, having the same answer on different questions which was irrelevant as hell. I almost laughed my ass off when he tried to force some tears out when bringing up the attack regarding the segregation allegation by John Lewis, trying to paint himself as a victim, "demanding" Obama to repudiate that statement while he was asked questions not relevant to the subject, several times. Obama gave answers relevant to the questions, sometimes it was mislead due to McCain straying off-topic, disrupting the debate by compulsively attacking Obama's character. And what's up with that scribbling with a smirk on his face act? Oh boy, American politic is like Hollywood, but Obama seems to be trying to distance himself from the shallowness and focusing on the issues while McCain desprately clings on to the same ol' flame-o-rama. It's a freaking joke. People should really try to distance themself from their party, and think rationally rather than let their convictions based upon their emotions rule their mind. Do you people actually know what being rational actually means? It's distancing yourself from your emotions while making up your judgement. It is hard when you have such strong convictions and firm beliefs but if you put your mind too it, you can. Both candidates are pursuing their own agenda, ultimately, to be president, it is not for your sake. But both are bestowed responsibilities, who do you think will comply to them the most? Both are men of good character, but who's intrests are they pursuing other than their own. The current administration were obviously pursuing their own intrests over the people, they did not intend to do a bad job but failed at keeping the balance. What side of the scale will weigh the most , the people or McCain's, the people or Obama's? Put their promises aside because those are merely ads (every election have in every corner of the world have 80% more or less unforfilled promises) and do some research, who's backing who.
If the whole world could vote the republicans would get 31 electoral votes while the democrats would get 8.876 electoral votes.I really dont blame over 99% of the rest of the world (outside USA) for supporting Obama.
but I understand how people won't believe me or the four electoral projection sites I mentioned SINCE US OBAMA FANS are sheep and have no idea what's going on... we are ignorant for seeing the facts straight -
Obama is on top by a large margin, those who disagree are the real sheep.
GALLUP's 'traditional' likely voter model shows Obama with a two-point advantage over McCain on Thursday, 49% to 47%, this is within poll's margin of error... Developing...
perhaps people are skeptical of obama. they say they'll vote for the noob with all the right phrases last month and this month- the noob who is offering everything and the kitchen sink for all but the 5-10%. but maybe, just maybe there is a chance, that once confronted with the most powerful lever in the free world- they wont pull it for obama- the more questionable candidate. and of course the libs and dems here will throw the race cards in those peoples faces and mine, for even suggesting such a horrid scenario but the fact is,some people are not too sure of obama and all his grandeur- we shall see but, things are not as clear as cbsnyt and media outlets everywhere want the majority to believe.
the race card goes both ways obviously. some white people hate blacks. some black people hate whites.
But I do find it dumb that people say America isn't ready for a Black president. That's the biggest race card of them all - people who can't handle any black person being president. We cant say vice versa, since there has never been a black (half black) person to make it this far before - for black people to complain that 'oh, he's white, of course he's going to win'. This is the first chance of having a black president, and it should be a celebration of diversity in america. it should be a celebration of freedom from the norm.
Ever since I posted this a few weeks ago Obama has continuously run up his margins. And although that increase is trailing off it is going to be very hard for McCain to win now. He is desperately running out of time.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
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He will win. There's nobody who is going to put the idiotic republicans in office again.
That is all I needed to know. I am dealing with an extremist.
You can't refute anything I'm saying, so you resort to Ad Homs. You're a little new to this entire 'debate' concept, aren't you?
I suggest you take some psychology and management courses to gain understanding about how humans think (normally and as a whole) and operate. How humans are indeed resistant to change.
I suggest you take some courses in how to intelligently defend your ideas. Your ideas are remarkably silly, and you have no real clue about how the real world functions, what America is like, or anything else. Your ideals are precanned from a book, and have never been examined.
When you are done, revive this post.
Until then, God Forgives You.
(Don't worry, I didn't report you)
Err, you're threatening me with the Internet Police?
Santa Claus forgives you, he promises you no coal this year.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
He will win. There's nobody who is going to put the idiotic republicans in office again.
He will probably win the popular vote but not the electoral just like in the other elections.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
He will win. There's nobody who is going to put the idiotic republicans in office again.
He will probably win the popular vote but not the electoral just like in the other elections.
Given that there have only been a handful of examples of winning the popular vote but not winning in the Electoral College (the 2000 election being the most recent) it would appear that your facts are uncoordinated.
Right now, even conservative pollsters (in the old fashioned sense of "conservative", not the modern movement conservative sense) are showing Obama winning more than 280 Electoral College votes...more than enough to be sworn in as the next President.
Chances are good that he'll have more than 350 Electoral College votes.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
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"You can't refute anything I'm saying, so you resort to Ad Homs. You're a little new to this entire 'debate' concept, aren't you? "
I did and you had to go into a rant and utter curses.
"I suggest you take some courses in how to intelligently defend your ideas. Your ideas are remarkably silly, and you have no real clue about how the real world functions, what America is like, or anything else. Your ideals are precanned from a book, and have never been examined."
Not as silly as yours.
My goodness, how can I explain myself of living a good life and good income and yet have no clue about life or America. I have traveled the world, served in two military services, have a graduate degree, and now have a very good income. But of course in your mind, I'm just making this up.
"Err, you're threatening me with the Internet Police?"
There you go again Joe, going to the extremes.
Here is some news for you, there have been some bans going on here in this sub-forum from reportings and I am informing you, if such a thing happened to you, it did not come from me.
Also please do control yourself, your last lines are considered Baiting.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
GALLUP's 'traditional' likely voter model shows Obama with a two-point advantage over McCain on Thursday, 49% to 47%, this is within poll's margin of error... Developing...
perhaps people are skeptical of obama. they say they'll vote for the noob with all the right phrases last month and this month- the noob who is offering everything and the kitchen sink for all but the 5-10%. but maybe, just maybe there is a chance, that once confronted with the most powerful lever in the free world- they wont pull it for obama- the more questionable candidate.
and of course the libs and dems here will throw the race cards in those peoples faces and mine, for even suggesting such a horrid scenario but the fact is,some people are not too sure of obama and all his grandeur-
we shall see but, things are not as clear as cbsnyt and media outlets everywhere want the majority to believe.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
Fact: The majority of the world is in favor of Barack Obama.
I watched the debate last night and oh boy, McCain sounded like a broken record, having the same answer on different questions which was irrelevant as hell. I almost laughed my ass off when he tried to force some tears out when bringing up the attack regarding the segregation allegation by John Lewis, trying to paint himself as a victim, "demanding" Obama to repudiate that statement while he was asked questions not relevant to the subject, several times.
Obama gave answers relevant to the questions, sometimes it was mislead due to McCain straying off-topic, disrupting the debate by compulsively attacking Obama's character.
And what's up with that scribbling with a smirk on his face act? Oh boy, American politic is like Hollywood, but Obama seems to be trying to distance himself from the shallowness and focusing on the issues while McCain desprately clings on to the same ol' flame-o-rama. It's a freaking joke.
People should really try to distance themself from their party, and think rationally rather than let their convictions based upon their emotions rule their mind. Do you people actually know what being rational actually means? It's distancing yourself from your emotions while making up your judgement.
It is hard when you have such strong convictions and firm beliefs but if you put your mind too it, you can.
Both candidates are pursuing their own agenda, ultimately, to be president, it is not for your sake. But both are bestowed responsibilities, who do you think will comply to them the most? Both are men of good character, but who's intrests are they pursuing other than their own. The current administration were obviously pursuing their own intrests over the people, they did not intend to do a bad job but failed at keeping the balance.
What side of the scale will weigh the most , the people or McCain's, the people or Obama's? Put their promises aside because those are merely ads (every election have in every corner of the world have 80% more or less unforfilled promises) and do some research, who's backing who.
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seriously, if you look at the four electoral projection sites I mentioned in this thread, I have no idea how people think McCain can win. also on cnn today, reporters said McCain needs every battleground state plus one blue state to win this election... I have no idea why people still think McCain can win outside of a huge voting scandal. Obama's win percentage is 94%, down 1% since last debate
But, knock on wood, I wont count my eggs until they hatched or however that silly quote goes..
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yes, www.economist.com/vote2008/
If the whole world could vote the republicans would get 31 electoral votes while the democrats would get 8.876 electoral votes.I really dont blame over 99% of the rest of the world (outside USA) for supporting Obama.
but I understand how people won't believe me or the four electoral projection sites I mentioned SINCE US OBAMA FANS are sheep and have no idea what's going on... we are ignorant for seeing the facts straight -
Obama is on top by a large margin, those who disagree are the real sheep.
the race card goes both ways obviously. some white people hate blacks. some black people hate whites.
But I do find it dumb that people say America isn't ready for a Black president. That's the biggest race card of them all - people who can't handle any black person being president. We cant say vice versa, since there has never been a black (half black) person to make it this far before - for black people to complain that 'oh, he's white, of course he's going to win'. This is the first chance of having a black president, and it should be a celebration of diversity in america. it should be a celebration of freedom from the norm.
Ever since I posted this a few weeks ago Obama has continuously run up his margins. And although that increase is trailing off it is going to be very hard for McCain to win now. He is desperately running out of time.
*tosses you a doll* this should give you your fix
wow....that's.....obscene....
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
So disturbing, but yet Ohh so funny at the same time
today his win percentage is 94.7%, 17 days to go.