The third difference is I am a current concurrent subscriber, I am not someone who played the game for the first week or month who is still posting here telling you what they think the game is like based on outdated information.
Why do all you fanboys keep throwing that excuse around? I said it once before and I'll say it again:
It does not make sense for me to remain subscribed to a game I did not like just so I can stay updated on what is happening with it.
It would be like if you bought a used car from a used car dealership, got it home and found out that it had no engine, no brakes and the radio only plays the oldies station. Would you keep the car? Of course not! You would take it back to the dealership and demand a refund! But after you returned the defective car, would you go back to that same dealership every week and ask to buy the car again so you could try it out one more time to see if they fixed it up any? Duh, of course you wouldn't! That would be stupid. Instead you would warn all your friends to stay away from that car dealership and you would go to a different dealership to buy a better car.
AoC is the exact same way. Those of us who played the game and didn't like it have no reason to go back! And we aren't going to keep paying for the game to confirm its bad, because that would be stupid. And if we did keep paying for the game just so we could complain about how bad it is, you know what you would say then? "Oh if you don't like the game then just quit!" This is just your classic fanboy defense. Instead of actually talking about the game, you beat around the bush and try to run off anyone with a differing opinion by coming up with various flawed excuses for why you don't think they have a right to give their opinion.
Well I hate to tell you but this is a public forum. If we don't like the game and we want to tell people that we don't like the game, we have every right to do so.
Besides, another thing I've said many times before, I quit the game because the basic premise is falwed! The combat system is not as great as they hyped it up to be and the game itself is just not appealing to me because it offers very little character development or freedom. These factors have NOT changed in the last few months. Funcom can fix bugs and add more content, but it won't alter the reasons why I originally quit the game. So my information is still completely accurate and not outdated at all.
The third difference is I am a current concurrent subscriber, I am not someone who played the game for the first week or month who is still posting here telling you what they think the game is like based on outdated information.
Why do all you fanboys keep throwing that excuse around? I said it once before and I'll say it again:
It does not make sense for me to remain subscribed to a game I did not like just so I can stay updated on what is happening with it.
It would be like if you bought a used car from a used car dealership, got it home and found out that it had no engine, no brakes and the radio only plays the oldies station. Would you keep the car? Of course not! You would take it back to the dealership and demand a refund! But after you returned the defective car, would you go back to that same dealership every week and ask to buy the car again so you could try it out one more time to see if they fixed it up any? Duh, of course you wouldn't! That would be stupid. Instead you would warn all your friends to stay away from that car dealership and you would go to a different dealership to buy a better car.
AoC is the exact same way. Those of us who played the game and didn't like it have no reason to go back! And we aren't going to keep paying for the game to confirm its bad, because that would be stupid. And if we did keep paying for the game just so we could complain about how bad it is, you know what you would say then? "Oh if you don't like the game then just quit!" This is just your classic fanboy defense. Instead of actually talking about the game, you beat around the bush and try to run off anyone with a differing opinion by coming up with various flawed excuses for why you don't think they have a right to give their opinion.
Well I hate to tell you but this is a public forum. If we don't like the game and we want to tell people that we don't like the game, we have every right to do so.
Besides, another thing I've said many times before, I quit the game because the basic premise is falwed! The combat system is not as great as they hyped it up to be and the game itself is just not appealing to me because it offers very little character development or freedom. These factors have NOT changed in the last few months. Funcom can fix bugs and add more content, but it won't alter the reasons why I originally quit the game. So my information is still completely accurate and not outdated at all.
So your arguement fails on every possible level.
I'm sorry but what does anything you just said, have to do with what he posted? No one is telling you to play a game you don't like. Why would anyone expect you to stick around?
First off his point is valid. What he's referring to is a completely legitimate observation. There's plenty of posters on this forum who do exactly as he said (argue points with out of date info). Maybe you're not one of them, personally I gave up keeping track of who said what around here long ago (so I really wouldn't know). Regardless, people who quit because of design reasons really wouldn't be counted in that. So I really don't think he's talking about you personally.
Secondly, whats with the idea that there's an obligation to discuss the game with you? If you want to talk about things that could improve be my guest, start the conversation I'll contribute. However, if you want to argue with people over things we have no control over( what you enjoy, how FC designed this or that system etc... ) I'll pass.
Lastly if it bothers you so much that AOC is designed a certain way, why would you even bother checking this forum out? I'm not trying to dictate what you do in anyway, Its a sincere question. You have said, you have no desire to ever play again. The overall game design is a very easy chain of information to aquire. Therefor you're not really helping anyone, you're merely baiting as I see it right now.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Lastly if it bothers you so much that AOC is designed a certain way, why would you even bother checking this forum out? I'm not trying to dictate what you do in anyway, Its a sincere question. You have said, you have no desire to ever play again. The overall game design is a very easy chain of information to aquire. Therefor you're not really helping anyone, you're merely baiting as I see it right now.
It's basic psychology. FC has treated its customers like crap and now it's payback time. We get pleasure from seeing AoC stock go down.
I really don't care If fanbois have a problem with that. Cry all you want if it makes you feel better. This is a public forum and we have the right to express our oppinions.
I personally love when bad products and companies fail, because in the end, we as customers win.
Lastly if it bothers you so much that AOC is designed a certain way, why would you even bother checking this forum out? I'm not trying to dictate what you do in anyway, Its a sincere question. You have said, you have no desire to ever play again. The overall game design is a very easy chain of information to aquire. Therefor you're not really helping anyone, you're merely baiting as I see it right now.
It's basic psychology. FC has treated its customers like crap and now it's payback time. We get pleasure from seeing AoC stock go down.
Sacred has the right idea in anwser to this question. I think he took it in the wrong direction by talking about "payback" and "stock" however.
The issue here is that Funcom released AoC in an unfinished, buggy and uninteresting condition. They lied to their customers and mistreated them. Nothing they do now or change about the game will erase the mistakes they have already made.
The reason I post here is because I want to see Funcom be held accountable for their mistakes. MMO developers (and in fact the entire gaming industry these days) pull these kinds of stunts way too often. customers get screwed over way too frequently. And it happens because people like you let it happen! When consumers take the attitude of "aw yeah, the game was bad awhile ago but thats the way it works, you should re-subscribe now that its better" you send the wrong message to game developers! You are telling them that if they screw you over, steal your money and lie to you, all they need to do is slightly improve their product and wait six months, then all will be forgiven. Do you think that message is going to keep them from screwing you over and lieing to you in the future? NO!
Don't let Funcom get away with what they have done here. They lied to you, mistreated you and sold you a product they knew wasn't what you wanted. They think its okay to do that. Are you going to let them continue to think that?
No, you've largely misunderstood the upcoming changes. Read thispost if you want to get the full lowdown on the latest patch 3.0. In particular, the changes that relate to your concerns are as follows: • For each attack in the combo chain that you do without a valid target, your end damage (on the combo finisher) is reduced 15% per miss. • You can now only receive the benefit from Momentum (double-tap forward) and Sidestep (double-tap sideways) once every 6 seconds. • Added a 6 second internal cooldown to the double-tap backwards Evasion buff. • The double-tap backwards evasion buff now increases evade chance by 25% (down from 50%). In other words, they are not making combat "simpler" per se, rather they're toning down the value of the hugely unrealistic 'kiting' tactic in melee combat whereby a fighter rushes/jumps around into and out of melee range (and is incredibly hard to hit because of massive Evasion buffs from leaping), only swooping in for the final finishing strike of a combo yet still dealing the full damage for the whole combo. Regarding armour becoming more important, the new Director's address does suggest that this will be the case in future updates. He rightly pointed out that currently there's little progression in the power level of most gear between low and high level, such that it's quite common to be wearing equipment that you've had for the last ten or twenty levels which is still as or more useful as/than anything else you find. How heavily this will impact on PVP remains to be seen, but whatever happens it will still be some way off. Doubtless it will result in less naked PvP (except perhaps amongst Dark Desires members).
Ok, it helps IThese changes looks good. But some people wrote about simplified combos and stuff, so it's not true? Maybe they have plans to make them more simple in future... Anyway - i was too quick to jump to conclusions, we'll see how it goes.
I always said I would resub when they finished the game. I don't think they are quite there yet, but they have some great core mechanics. If something different from the norm doesn't come along I am sure I will resub one day. AoC was a lot of fun while the content was there, and the game worked.
People, Wall of text stun. I think all AoC players in MMORPG know the 4 people that just filled two pages with anti AoC propaganda . Also sweet that you have proclaimed yourself as representatives for the players that had technical issues and/or did not like the game and moved on in the early post launch days (particularly the guy that modified FUNCOM's logo to look like FAILCOM, ohh that is so mature. Probably as mature as "Word of Whorecraft, WOWHAmmer, BoreHammer, WARHammer OFFline or WARCrasher). Guys, I think Avery is trying to say, move on repetative hate posters and let somebody else (not as outdated as yourself) step up and take your place if there truly are so many of you. You have not played the game for more than 3 months and you frankly do not know what you are talking about. No offense. Do yourself a favour and drop by the AoC forums and see what's going on. In particular, remember to visit the Newcomers section and you will see that there are tons of people coming back. (This is the point where you are supposed to ask yourself why, and considder the possibility that not everybody have same view as yourself).
Last thing, I am ex-WAR player, as in I put it on hold for 3 months before I try it again. You do not see me hate spamming WAR's forums with repetative posts about my problems in that game. I have probably posted my WAR problems a very few times, but that is it. It is called moving on. Move on or come back to test patch 2.0.
AoC has some really nice things on the horizon. The memory leaks have been addressed and the client is running really well. I play on Cimmeria and the server is hopping. The crafting updates look really awesome. The first half of the pvp patch is in game with pvp experience, levels, and rewards. The second half is coming very shortly.
As for the people who quit awhile back yet feel the need to post garbage, I once owned a 1979 Ford I didn't like much but I don't sit around today complaining about that car and trying to convince others that a new Ford has the issues my old one did. That would be stupid.....
You are playing a video game. By definition that means you are not hardcore.
When the haters need to go to the techforums to find some shit to toss around, that's when you know the game is going stable. The tech forums are for people that has very peculiar problems with their set up. The funniest thing is that the solutions for the 3 only problems posted was presented in those same tickets (I guess that was of less interest to you). Read before you post.
Funcom should've done more research into what gamers really want out of an MMO and they should have delivered. I bet Blizzard would've delayed the game another year just to polish everything and give it that extra needed edge.
Funcom should've done more research into what gamers really want out of an MMO and they should have delivered. I bet Blizzard would've delayed the game another year just to polish everything and give it that extra needed edge.
Exageration, maybe Blizz would have hold of another 3 months, but then again FC is not cashing in bigtime on a game like WOW either. A fair comparison is Mythic. Their last launch was WAR and it thoroughly fell on it's face due to gameplay and technical issues. You could argue that they as well should have polished more. So FC did not an exeptionally bad launch. In my opinion they did much better than Mythic.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
There were certain aspects of the game that weren't in the live version. Drunken brawling and DX10 come to mind from what I've researched. It was also lacking in mid-end game content. There were some major bugs and sieging wasn't possible.
So far, from the people I've heard talk on these forums and the official AoC forums, sieging has been fixed and all of the major bugs have been squashed.
Someone who played the game from launch until now can answer your question better, but I don't think you should just wave it off. Wait for the content patche and then try the game.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
Sigh, you have to take away the trolls and flamers first. AoC ain't that bad, it was just released 6 months to early. But it wasnt the only one we seen many games with cut content and buggs.
Anyways make up your own mind, don't listen to them and don't listen to me, it is you who should enjoy a game. AoC don't really costs that much but check out the other games too. Or you could PM me, I got a trialkey left so you can see for yourself.
Can be that another game fits you better, AoC demands a good computer. You can also keep your eyes up for upcomming Co Spellborn, also have nice graphix and good combat system...
The third difference is I am a current concurrent subscriber, I am not someone who played the game for the first week or month who is still posting here telling you what they think the game is like based on outdated information.
Why do all you fanboys keep throwing that excuse around? I said it once before and I'll say it again:
It does not make sense for me to remain subscribed to a game I did not like just so I can stay updated on what is happening with it.
It would be like if you bought a used car from a used car dealership, got it home and found out that it had no engine, no brakes and the radio only plays the oldies station. Would you keep the car? Of course not! You would take it back to the dealership and demand a refund! But after you returned the defective car, would you go back to that same dealership every week and ask to buy the car again so you could try it out one more time to see if they fixed it up any? Duh, of course you wouldn't! That would be stupid. Instead you would warn all your friends to stay away from that car dealership and you would go to a different dealership to buy a better car.
AoC is the exact same way. Those of us who played the game and didn't like it have no reason to go back! And we aren't going to keep paying for the game to confirm its bad, because that would be stupid. And if we did keep paying for the game just so we could complain about how bad it is, you know what you would say then? "Oh if you don't like the game then just quit!" This is just your classic fanboy defense. Instead of actually talking about the game, you beat around the bush and try to run off anyone with a differing opinion by coming up with various flawed excuses for why you don't think they have a right to give their opinion.
Well I hate to tell you but this is a public forum. If we don't like the game and we want to tell people that we don't like the game, we have every right to do so.
Besides, another thing I've said many times before, I quit the game because the basic premise is falwed! The combat system is not as great as they hyped it up to be and the game itself is just not appealing to me because it offers very little character development or freedom. These factors have NOT changed in the last few months. Funcom can fix bugs and add more content, but it won't alter the reasons why I originally quit the game. So my information is still completely accurate and not outdated at all.
So your arguement fails on every possible level.
Your lackage of logical reasoning is amusing.
Now with that being said we can move on to your post. You seem not to understand what is the problem with you commenting the game. And that's what makes you write stupid "analogies". The problem is not you disliking the game, but shouting how bad this game IS with outdated information (was would be much more appropriate and noone would have picked on you)
Let me use the same analogy to show you how bad it actually is. When you buy a used car there isn't a disclaimer on the contract saying: the car might change during driving and yet there is one on every single online game saying: "game experience might change during online gameplay" . Let me rephrase that so you will understand how bad your analogy actually is. You don't put a used car in the garage waiting for it to have implemented the needed parts by mechanic, yet this is what happens to most MMO's. They change with time.
And here is where you go wrong. You are shouting how bad this game IS and not WAS with the 3 months old info. 3 months ago this was completely different game and when patch 3.0 goes live it will change it even more. If I use your bad analogy once more, it is like putting a punto into garage for 3 months and when you open it next time punto is replaced with bmw, which might (and i say might) in time change into ferrari. Ofc the game was bad, but things are picking up.
And if you guys think about playing bunch of crybabies holding a grunch crying "we were deceived" when this game comes to its best (it might, not saying it will) think about this when we talk about ethics. Is there anything more un-ethical than using yourself as an instrument of protest, not allowing yourself to play the game in which you would have a lot of fun? Just think about that.
I am not gonna list all the stuff that is and will be changed in upcomming months but here are some: revamped pvp system , new dungeons, awesome crafting system, sieging working with no system lag, out of memory errors reduced to minimum (i play in big guild on wildsould and in a month i havent seen a single guildie complain about oome)... i think this game has great potential to be great. It is not there yet but I can see it comming and hope for it.
PS: have you seen 3.0 patch changes to combat system? I guess not or else you wouldn't claim nothing is being done to it
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
I am a 7 year customer of FunCom. Anyone who played since launch knows everything I stated above is accurate and can be verified by multiple sources.
I don't think even AmazingAvery would refute the facts I stated above.
You are just plain trolling, and are not even very good at it.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
I am a 7 year customer of FunCom. Anyone who played since launch knows everything I stated above is accurate and can be verified by multiple sources.
I don't think even AmazingAvery would refute the facts I stated above.
You are just plain trolling, and are not even very good at it.
Ohh yeahh I am just trolling.. Look when you want to test statements like
*I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
You need to back it up with facts. And I doubt you can because the game is growing bigtime now (whch is obvious for any user actually logging on). Even these damn xfire numbers show that, so chill out a bit and get your facts straight before you start your revolution.
You need to back it up with facts. And I doubt you can because the game is growing bigtime now (whch is obvious for any user actually logging on). Even these damn xfire numbers show that, so chill out a bit and get your facts straight before you start your revolution.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
Uh, the reviewers got acces to the closed beta, if they didnt write about anything later it was because they were lazy. Many games don't allow acces to all levels on the preview weekend (or open beta which people seems to call it lately). I was in the CB BTW.
Rightfully angry? Maybe but most I saw banned were trolling everything so that you couldn't read a thread without loads of trolling. Kinda takes a way the point to read about tech issued when 20 players post the same junk over and over, I cant see any solution to anything that's is in 1 post then.
And exploiters were usually warned but I think cheaters should be banned.
Im not sure where you got your player numbers from, but I havn't noticed less players the last month, there is quite a few new players. I would guess there is 250-300K but that's just a guess. I on the other hand play the game daily so I do notice when players go up and down, It went down a lot 2-3 months ago.
But yeah, the game still needs 2-3 months more, no doubt about that. Patch 3 just got to the testserver but we still waiting for the 2 new zones, Ymirs pass is supposed to be on the testserver but you can't get there until next update...
And someone mentioned X-fire... X-fire numbers sucks even if they are + or -, doesnt matter. Whatever people say about AoC as a a PvP game it is still played most by PvE players and few of these use X-fire.
Uh, the reviewers got acces to the closed beta, if they didnt write about anything later it was because they were lazy. (Play Testers were covered under NDA unable to report on the state of the game, still are, Media Testers/Reviewers only got to play in Tortage up to 20 look it up it's a fact)
Rightfully angry? Maybe but most I saw banned were trolling everything so that you couldn't read a thread without loads of trolling. (Legitimate threads weren't moderated to remove flaming, just closed instead)
And exploiters were usually warned but I think cheaters should be banned. (A lot of Guild Leaders were banned for exploiting based only on how much gold they had on a toon, gold they needed to consolidate to build cities, there were no warnings)
Im not sure where you got your player numbers from, but I havn't noticed less players the last month, there is quite a few new players. I would guess there is 250-300K but that's just a guess. I on the other hand play the game daily so I do notice when players go up and down, It went down a lot 2-3 months ago. (Server mergers have been announced, nuff said)
But yeah, the game still needs 2-3 months more , no doubt about that. (My guess is 12 months, I make that estimate having played FC's other MMO for 7 years)
And someone mentioned X-fire... X-fire numbers sucks even if they are + or -, doesnt matter. Whatever people say about AoC as a a PvP game it is still played most by PvE players and few of these use X-fire. (Agreed)
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
I am a 7 year customer of FunCom. Anyone who played since launch knows everything I stated above is accurate and can be verified by multiple sources.
I don't think even AmazingAvery would refute the facts I stated above.
You are just plain trolling, and are not even very good at it.
Ohh yeahh I am just trolling.. Look when you want to test statements like
*I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
You need to back it up with facts. And I doubt you can because the game is growing bigtime now (whch is obvious for any user actually logging on). Even these damn xfire numbers show that, so chill out a bit and get your facts straight before you start your revolution.
so cobra are u denying the other points that unfinished made are true? dont avoid them . plus you tell him to back it up with facts and the only fact you have for making such a big statement "the game is growing bigtime" is XFIRE numbers?! way to go dude.
Funcom should've done more research into what gamers really want out of an MMO and they should have delivered. I bet Blizzard would've delayed the game another year just to polish everything and give it that extra needed edge.
Exageration, maybe Blizz would have hold of another 3 months, but then again FC is not cashing in bigtime on a game like WOW either. A fair comparison is Mythic. Their last launch was WAR and it thoroughly fell on it's face due to gameplay and technical issues. You could argue that they as well should have polished more. So FC did not an exeptionally bad launch. In my opinion they did much better than Mythic.
While it is admirable that Funcom stuck with Anarchy Online for so many years, it was never a huge success. According to mmogchart.com, AO had a peak of 60,000 subscribers shortly after its launch in 2001. By 2002, it had plummeted to only 10,000 subscribers. Since then, it has gone up and down, but never came close to the peak numbers.
In comparison, Mythic’s Dark Age of Camelot (DAoC) had a peak of 250,000 shortly after its launch in 2002 and maintained good numbers for the next several years. Even now, it has decent numbers for such an old game.
There is some question over the validity of the numbers provided by mmogchart.com, but even if the actual numbers are incorrect, looking at ballpark figures still shows a very clear difference.
Mythic knows how to get people to subscribe and keep them happy for years. Obviously, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Based on Funcom’s history, it’s hard to say the same for Funcom.
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Why do all you fanboys keep throwing that excuse around? I said it once before and I'll say it again:
It does not make sense for me to remain subscribed to a game I did not like just so I can stay updated on what is happening with it.
It would be like if you bought a used car from a used car dealership, got it home and found out that it had no engine, no brakes and the radio only plays the oldies station. Would you keep the car? Of course not! You would take it back to the dealership and demand a refund! But after you returned the defective car, would you go back to that same dealership every week and ask to buy the car again so you could try it out one more time to see if they fixed it up any? Duh, of course you wouldn't! That would be stupid. Instead you would warn all your friends to stay away from that car dealership and you would go to a different dealership to buy a better car.
AoC is the exact same way. Those of us who played the game and didn't like it have no reason to go back! And we aren't going to keep paying for the game to confirm its bad, because that would be stupid. And if we did keep paying for the game just so we could complain about how bad it is, you know what you would say then? "Oh if you don't like the game then just quit!" This is just your classic fanboy defense. Instead of actually talking about the game, you beat around the bush and try to run off anyone with a differing opinion by coming up with various flawed excuses for why you don't think they have a right to give their opinion.
Well I hate to tell you but this is a public forum. If we don't like the game and we want to tell people that we don't like the game, we have every right to do so.
Besides, another thing I've said many times before, I quit the game because the basic premise is falwed! The combat system is not as great as they hyped it up to be and the game itself is just not appealing to me because it offers very little character development or freedom. These factors have NOT changed in the last few months. Funcom can fix bugs and add more content, but it won't alter the reasons why I originally quit the game. So my information is still completely accurate and not outdated at all.
So your arguement fails on every possible level.
The History of the Order of The Golden Shields
Why do all you fanboys keep throwing that excuse around? I said it once before and I'll say it again:
It does not make sense for me to remain subscribed to a game I did not like just so I can stay updated on what is happening with it.
It would be like if you bought a used car from a used car dealership, got it home and found out that it had no engine, no brakes and the radio only plays the oldies station. Would you keep the car? Of course not! You would take it back to the dealership and demand a refund! But after you returned the defective car, would you go back to that same dealership every week and ask to buy the car again so you could try it out one more time to see if they fixed it up any? Duh, of course you wouldn't! That would be stupid. Instead you would warn all your friends to stay away from that car dealership and you would go to a different dealership to buy a better car.
AoC is the exact same way. Those of us who played the game and didn't like it have no reason to go back! And we aren't going to keep paying for the game to confirm its bad, because that would be stupid. And if we did keep paying for the game just so we could complain about how bad it is, you know what you would say then? "Oh if you don't like the game then just quit!" This is just your classic fanboy defense. Instead of actually talking about the game, you beat around the bush and try to run off anyone with a differing opinion by coming up with various flawed excuses for why you don't think they have a right to give their opinion.
Well I hate to tell you but this is a public forum. If we don't like the game and we want to tell people that we don't like the game, we have every right to do so.
Besides, another thing I've said many times before, I quit the game because the basic premise is falwed! The combat system is not as great as they hyped it up to be and the game itself is just not appealing to me because it offers very little character development or freedom. These factors have NOT changed in the last few months. Funcom can fix bugs and add more content, but it won't alter the reasons why I originally quit the game. So my information is still completely accurate and not outdated at all.
So your arguement fails on every possible level.
I'm sorry but what does anything you just said, have to do with what he posted? No one is telling you to play a game you don't like. Why would anyone expect you to stick around?
First off his point is valid. What he's referring to is a completely legitimate observation. There's plenty of posters on this forum who do exactly as he said (argue points with out of date info). Maybe you're not one of them, personally I gave up keeping track of who said what around here long ago (so I really wouldn't know). Regardless, people who quit because of design reasons really wouldn't be counted in that. So I really don't think he's talking about you personally.
Secondly, whats with the idea that there's an obligation to discuss the game with you? If you want to talk about things that could improve be my guest, start the conversation I'll contribute. However, if you want to argue with people over things we have no control over( what you enjoy, how FC designed this or that system etc... ) I'll pass.
Lastly if it bothers you so much that AOC is designed a certain way, why would you even bother checking this forum out? I'm not trying to dictate what you do in anyway, Its a sincere question. You have said, you have no desire to ever play again. The overall game design is a very easy chain of information to aquire. Therefor you're not really helping anyone, you're merely baiting as I see it right now.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It's basic psychology. FC has treated its customers like crap and now it's payback time. We get pleasure from seeing AoC stock go down.
I really don't care If fanbois have a problem with that. Cry all you want if it makes you feel better. This is a public forum and we have the right to express our oppinions.
I personally love when bad products and companies fail, because in the end, we as customers win.
It's basic psychology. FC has treated its customers like crap and now it's payback time. We get pleasure from seeing AoC stock go down.
Sacred has the right idea in anwser to this question. I think he took it in the wrong direction by talking about "payback" and "stock" however.
The issue here is that Funcom released AoC in an unfinished, buggy and uninteresting condition. They lied to their customers and mistreated them. Nothing they do now or change about the game will erase the mistakes they have already made.
The reason I post here is because I want to see Funcom be held accountable for their mistakes. MMO developers (and in fact the entire gaming industry these days) pull these kinds of stunts way too often. customers get screwed over way too frequently. And it happens because people like you let it happen! When consumers take the attitude of "aw yeah, the game was bad awhile ago but thats the way it works, you should re-subscribe now that its better" you send the wrong message to game developers! You are telling them that if they screw you over, steal your money and lie to you, all they need to do is slightly improve their product and wait six months, then all will be forgiven. Do you think that message is going to keep them from screwing you over and lieing to you in the future? NO!
Don't let Funcom get away with what they have done here. They lied to you, mistreated you and sold you a product they knew wasn't what you wanted. They think its okay to do that. Are you going to let them continue to think that?
The History of the Order of The Golden Shields
Ok, it helps
IThese changes looks good. But some people wrote about simplified combos and stuff, so it's not true? Maybe they have plans to make them more simple in future... Anyway - i was too quick to jump to conclusions, we'll see how it goes.
I always said I would resub when they finished the game. I don't think they are quite there yet, but they have some great core mechanics. If something different from the norm doesn't come along I am sure I will resub one day. AoC was a lot of fun while the content was there, and the game worked.
People, Wall of text stun. I think all AoC players in MMORPG know the 4 people that just filled two pages with anti AoC propaganda
. Also sweet that you have proclaimed yourself as representatives for the players that had technical issues and/or did not like the game and moved on in the early post launch days (particularly the guy that modified FUNCOM's logo to look like FAILCOM, ohh that is so mature. Probably as mature as "Word of Whorecraft, WOWHAmmer, BoreHammer, WARHammer OFFline or WARCrasher). Guys, I think Avery is trying to say, move on repetative hate posters and let somebody else (not as outdated as yourself) step up and take your place if there truly are so many of you. You have not played the game for more than 3 months and you frankly do not know what you are talking about. No offense. Do yourself a favour and drop by the AoC forums and see what's going on. In particular, remember to visit the Newcomers section and you will see that there are tons of people coming back. (This is the point where you are supposed to ask yourself why, and considder the possibility that not everybody have same view as yourself).
Last thing, I am ex-WAR player, as in I put it on hold for 3 months before I try it again. You do not see me hate spamming WAR's forums with repetative posts about my problems in that game. I have probably posted my WAR problems a very few times, but that is it. It is called moving on. Move on or come back to test patch 2.0.
AoC has some really nice things on the horizon. The memory leaks have been addressed and the client is running really well. I play on Cimmeria and the server is hopping. The crafting updates look really awesome. The first half of the pvp patch is in game with pvp experience, levels, and rewards. The second half is coming very shortly.
As for the people who quit awhile back yet feel the need to post garbage, I once owned a 1979 Ford I didn't like much but I don't sit around today complaining about that car and trying to convince others that a new Ford has the issues my old one did. That would be stupid.....
You are playing a video game. By definition that means you are not hardcore.
forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php
forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php
When the haters need to go to the techforums to find some shit to toss around, that's when you know the game is going stable. The tech forums are for people that has very peculiar problems with their set up. The funniest thing is that the solutions for the 3 only problems posted was presented in those same tickets (I guess that was of less interest to you). Read before you post.
Funcom should've done more research into what gamers really want out of an MMO and they should have delivered. I bet Blizzard would've delayed the game another year just to polish everything and give it that extra needed edge.
Exageration, maybe Blizz would have hold of another 3 months, but then again FC is not cashing in bigtime on a game like WOW either. A fair comparison is Mythic. Their last launch was WAR and it thoroughly fell on it's face due to gameplay and technical issues. You could argue that they as well should have polished more. So FC did not an exeptionally bad launch. In my opinion they did much better than Mythic.
not that i dont agree with you. i was thinking about buying the game... but now i changed my mind. so many people hate this company. but what did they lie about? and i dont wanna buy the game to figure out what.
There were certain aspects of the game that weren't in the live version. Drunken brawling and DX10 come to mind from what I've researched. It was also lacking in mid-end game content. There were some major bugs and sieging wasn't possible.
So far, from the people I've heard talk on these forums and the official AoC forums, sieging has been fixed and all of the major bugs have been squashed.
Someone who played the game from launch until now can answer your question better, but I don't think you should just wave it off. Wait for the content patche and then try the game.
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Sigh, you have to take away the trolls and flamers first. AoC ain't that bad, it was just released 6 months to early. But it wasnt the only one we seen many games with cut content and buggs.
Anyways make up your own mind, don't listen to them and don't listen to me, it is you who should enjoy a game. AoC don't really costs that much but check out the other games too. Or you could PM me, I got a trialkey left so you can see for yourself.
Can be that another game fits you better, AoC demands a good computer. You can also keep your eyes up for upcomming Co Spellborn, also have nice graphix and good combat system...
Why do all you fanboys keep throwing that excuse around? I said it once before and I'll say it again:
It does not make sense for me to remain subscribed to a game I did not like just so I can stay updated on what is happening with it.
It would be like if you bought a used car from a used car dealership, got it home and found out that it had no engine, no brakes and the radio only plays the oldies station. Would you keep the car? Of course not! You would take it back to the dealership and demand a refund! But after you returned the defective car, would you go back to that same dealership every week and ask to buy the car again so you could try it out one more time to see if they fixed it up any? Duh, of course you wouldn't! That would be stupid. Instead you would warn all your friends to stay away from that car dealership and you would go to a different dealership to buy a better car.
AoC is the exact same way. Those of us who played the game and didn't like it have no reason to go back! And we aren't going to keep paying for the game to confirm its bad, because that would be stupid. And if we did keep paying for the game just so we could complain about how bad it is, you know what you would say then? "Oh if you don't like the game then just quit!" This is just your classic fanboy defense. Instead of actually talking about the game, you beat around the bush and try to run off anyone with a differing opinion by coming up with various flawed excuses for why you don't think they have a right to give their opinion.
Well I hate to tell you but this is a public forum. If we don't like the game and we want to tell people that we don't like the game, we have every right to do so.
Besides, another thing I've said many times before, I quit the game because the basic premise is falwed! The combat system is not as great as they hyped it up to be and the game itself is just not appealing to me because it offers very little character development or freedom. These factors have NOT changed in the last few months. Funcom can fix bugs and add more content, but it won't alter the reasons why I originally quit the game. So my information is still completely accurate and not outdated at all.
So your arguement fails on every possible level.
Your lackage of logical reasoning is amusing.
Now with that being said we can move on to your post. You seem not to understand what is the problem with you commenting the game. And that's what makes you write stupid "analogies". The problem is not you disliking the game, but shouting how bad this game IS with outdated information (was would be much more appropriate and noone would have picked on you)
Let me use the same analogy to show you how bad it actually is. When you buy a used car there isn't a disclaimer on the contract saying: the car might change during driving and yet there is one on every single online game saying: "game experience might change during online gameplay" . Let me rephrase that so you will understand how bad your analogy actually is. You don't put a used car in the garage waiting for it to have implemented the needed parts by mechanic, yet this is what happens to most MMO's. They change with time.
And here is where you go wrong. You are shouting how bad this game IS and not WAS with the 3 months old info. 3 months ago this was completely different game and when patch 3.0 goes live it will change it even more. If I use your bad analogy once more, it is like putting a punto into garage for 3 months and when you open it next time punto is replaced with bmw, which might (and i say might) in time change into ferrari. Ofc the game was bad, but things are picking up.
And if you guys think about playing bunch of crybabies holding a grunch crying "we were deceived" when this game comes to its best (it might, not saying it will) think about this when we talk about ethics. Is there anything more un-ethical than using yourself as an instrument of protest, not allowing yourself to play the game in which you would have a lot of fun? Just think about that.
I am not gonna list all the stuff that is and will be changed in upcomming months but here are some: revamped pvp system , new dungeons, awesome crafting system, sieging working with no system lag, out of memory errors reduced to minimum (i play in big guild on wildsould and in a month i havent seen a single guildie complain about oome)... i think this game has great potential to be great. It is not there yet but I can see it comming and hope for it.
PS: have you seen 3.0 patch changes to combat system? I guess not or else you wouldn't claim nothing is being done to it
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
I am a 7 year customer of FunCom. Anyone who played since launch knows everything I stated above is accurate and can be verified by multiple sources.
I don't think even AmazingAvery would refute the facts I stated above.
You are just plain trolling, and are not even very good at it.
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
I am a 7 year customer of FunCom. Anyone who played since launch knows everything I stated above is accurate and can be verified by multiple sources.
I don't think even AmazingAvery would refute the facts I stated above.
You are just plain trolling, and are not even very good at it.
Ohh yeahh I am just trolling.. Look when you want to test statements like
*I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
You need to back it up with facts. And I doubt you can because the game is growing bigtime now (whch is obvious for any user actually logging on). Even these damn xfire numbers show that, so chill out a bit and get your facts straight before you start your revolution.
Interesting statement - try post #35 on for size
www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/forums/thread/205593/page/4
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
Uh, the reviewers got acces to the closed beta, if they didnt write about anything later it was because they were lazy. Many games don't allow acces to all levels on the preview weekend (or open beta which people seems to call it lately). I was in the CB BTW.
Rightfully angry? Maybe but most I saw banned were trolling everything so that you couldn't read a thread without loads of trolling. Kinda takes a way the point to read about tech issued when 20 players post the same junk over and over, I cant see any solution to anything that's is in 1 post then.
And exploiters were usually warned but I think cheaters should be banned.
Im not sure where you got your player numbers from, but I havn't noticed less players the last month, there is quite a few new players. I would guess there is 250-300K but that's just a guess. I on the other hand play the game daily so I do notice when players go up and down, It went down a lot 2-3 months ago.
But yeah, the game still needs 2-3 months more, no doubt about that. Patch 3 just got to the testserver but we still waiting for the 2 new zones, Ymirs pass is supposed to be on the testserver but you can't get there until next update...
And someone mentioned X-fire... X-fire numbers sucks even if they are + or -, doesnt matter. Whatever people say about AoC as a a PvP game it is still played most by PvE players and few of these use X-fire.
Uh, the reviewers got acces to the closed beta, if they didnt write about anything later it was because they were lazy. (Play Testers were covered under NDA unable to report on the state of the game, still are, Media Testers/Reviewers only got to play in Tortage up to 20 look it up it's a fact)
Rightfully angry? Maybe but most I saw banned were trolling everything so that you couldn't read a thread without loads of trolling. (Legitimate threads weren't moderated to remove flaming, just closed instead)
And exploiters were usually warned but I think cheaters should be banned. (A lot of Guild Leaders were banned for exploiting based only on how much gold they had on a toon, gold they needed to consolidate to build cities, there were no warnings)
Im not sure where you got your player numbers from, but I havn't noticed less players the last month, there is quite a few new players. I would guess there is 250-300K but that's just a guess. I on the other hand play the game daily so I do notice when players go up and down, It went down a lot 2-3 months ago. (Server mergers have been announced, nuff said)
But yeah, the game still needs 2-3 months more , no doubt about that. (My guess is 12 months, I make that estimate having played FC's other MMO for 7 years)
And someone mentioned X-fire... X-fire numbers sucks even if they are + or -, doesnt matter. Whatever people say about AoC as a a PvP game it is still played most by PvE players and few of these use X-fire. (Agreed)
FunCom only allowed reviewers and open beta players access to the first 20 levels and 1 play field. All of that content was relatively fleshed out and and reasonably polished.
At launch everyone found out that the game after level 20 (of 80) and the starting zone was very, very incomplete. Much of the content and features that was advertised are still not on the live servers (the half a year later mark is right around the corner).
When players who were rightfully angry at being mislead posted on the official forums they were censored and/or banned. In and Out of game Customer Service was non-existent.
Massive broken and incomplete game mechanics were exploited by many players and FunCom went ban-happy and banned accounts of people who were not exploiting.
More than half of the players left within the first 2 months and that number has been halved a few more times since.
Age of Conan's Head Designer has recently left the gaming industry because he was so unsatisfied with how his game turned out.
I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
Just be careful, there are several people on the MMORPG-AOC forums here who have made it a mission to try and down play just how badly this game launched, how poorly customers were treated and how many players left in disappointment.
If you really are curious about the game, ask around for a buddy key or wait for a free trial (coming soon enough). Just don't get suckered into paying full price for a half finished game, plenty enough folks already did.
First of all reading your list of..... I am not sure what list is, but in either way your list is very very wrong. It makes me even think you never played the game. I have seen you post your stuff over and over again even though it's looong time since you played this game. Play AoC after patch 2.0 and you'll find a hopping game with increaseing population. Great stability with tons of fun.
I am a 7 year customer of FunCom. Anyone who played since launch knows everything I stated above is accurate and can be verified by multiple sources.
I don't think even AmazingAvery would refute the facts I stated above.
You are just plain trolling, and are not even very good at it.
Ohh yeahh I am just trolling.. Look when you want to test statements like
*I probably left out a few chapters of this disaster story. I am sure other will be happy to fill it in.
You need to back it up with facts. And I doubt you can because the game is growing bigtime now (whch is obvious for any user actually logging on). Even these damn xfire numbers show that, so chill out a bit and get your facts straight before you start your revolution.
so cobra are u denying the other points that unfinished made are true? dont avoid them . plus you tell him to back it up with facts and the only fact you have for making such a big statement "the game is growing bigtime" is XFIRE numbers?! way to go dude.
Exageration, maybe Blizz would have hold of another 3 months, but then again FC is not cashing in bigtime on a game like WOW either. A fair comparison is Mythic. Their last launch was WAR and it thoroughly fell on it's face due to gameplay and technical issues. You could argue that they as well should have polished more. So FC did not an exeptionally bad launch. In my opinion they did much better than Mythic.
While it is admirable that Funcom stuck with Anarchy Online for so many years, it was never a huge success. According to mmogchart.com, AO had a peak of 60,000 subscribers shortly after its launch in 2001. By 2002, it had plummeted to only 10,000 subscribers. Since then, it has gone up and down, but never came close to the peak numbers.
In comparison, Mythic’s Dark Age of Camelot (DAoC) had a peak of 250,000 shortly after its launch in 2002 and maintained good numbers for the next several years. Even now, it has decent numbers for such an old game.
There is some question over the validity of the numbers provided by mmogchart.com, but even if the actual numbers are incorrect, looking at ballpark figures still shows a very clear difference.
Mythic knows how to get people to subscribe and keep them happy for years. Obviously, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Based on Funcom’s history, it’s hard to say the same for Funcom.