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  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

  • OutlawVROutlawVR Member Posts: 88
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    clever I saw what u did there

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by OutlawVR

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    clever I saw what u did there

     

    They made me do it, the voices...

  • flakmonkyflakmonky Member Posts: 210
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    Except for the fact that they are currently well beyond that point. (Hard-ware testing means that they have at least selected some of the people who will make beta.)

    I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    Except for the fact that they are currently well beyond that point. (Hard-ware testing means that they have at least selected some of the people who will make beta.)

    They are and are not, in quantum universe. Omg I discovered Darkfall's true essence!

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Darkfall (and Aventurine) are the Sara Palin of MMOs.

    Pretty, but evasive, inexperienced, and dangerous to the whole.

    But hey, why not build a campaign around nothing but promises on a foundation thats not even remotely solid?

     

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    Except for the fact that they are currently well beyond that point. (Hard-ware testing means that they have at least selected some of the people who will make beta.)

    "They have at least selected some of the people who will make the beta" Oh really, you know that for a fact. Please name these so called testers.

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  • spacebotspacebot Member UncommonPosts: 148

    Darkfall (and Aventurine) are the Barrack Obama of MMOs.

    Pretty, but evasive, inexperienced, and dangerous to the whole.

    But hey, why not build a campaign around nothing but promises on a foundation thats not even remotely solid?



     

    Fixed your post for you.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by OutlawVR


    How bout we wait 3 days. I think then we can start claiming victory over the other side.

     

    Generally, when you make these comments you also include a clear indicator of which side you are on. The way this comment reads, it seems almost as if you are an e-peen oppourtunist who will say "ha, I told you so" regardless of the outcome.

    Edit: I know this is not true, but that is what the comment suggests.

    Also, we have no idea yet what the 16th will bring, and many of us fans are delibrately avoiding hoping for Open Beta to start. That way, if it isn't we won't be let down, and if it is it will be much more exhilarating than if we had been expecting it.

    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    Except for the fact that they are currently well beyond that point. (Hard-ware testing means that they have at least selected some of the people who will make beta.)

    "They have at least selected some of the people who will make the beta" Oh really, you know that for a fact. Please name these so called testers.

    funny thing is i get to sit back and laugh XD at people like you

     

  • Ivan2Ivan2 Member Posts: 10

    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

  • Random_mageRandom_mage Member UncommonPosts: 1,093
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by Random_mage

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by Yamota


    As a software developer and a long time MMORPG veteran I know from experience that having a brief testing period is a misstake. A software, no matter how well designed, will have issues when it is released for a live audience and having this period short and thinking it will be enough is a misstake.
    Balancing issue, loopholes, stability issues will all be discovered in the beta test and I strongly doubt that they will be, mostly, fixed or even found in a few weeks.
    But time will tell I guess...

     

    As developer you know that often developer declare a build 'stable' without anyone from public has seen  or experienced that build ?  How  are these developer  able to do that ?

    DarkFall is in Beta since over a year , in this Beta Phase i think they worked on all what you mentioned... like Balancing issue, loopholes and  stability issues.  Why do you think the public outside is more talented in detecting those issues then the developer themselves and their chosen tester ?

     These is a commercial product and as such its not like the open source applications where anyone can download the source code compile it and run a server and remain in beta for ever.

    The developer say in nearly every update, we test and we test and we debug, doesn't no one read that lines?



     

    The Public is more talented because...

    I mean.. by your logic.. no toddler should ever get the cap of a bottle open.. because the designers thought about  possible way to get it off.. but.. we both know that's not the case..Also, hey think outside the box. 

    There is another post on here that talks about the gaming being released this year.. every year for the past 3 years. The video is nice and pretty.. but this isn't the first video.  there was one back.. before the rebuild.  I've been told to just shut up about the gaming be released.. soemthing about it being releases when it is.. The thing is.. Get this.. When you say "This year" You mean.. the current year.  Not.. This year.. as a hpyothetical date..

    And to answer..

    NO, we are NOT  in the beta yet. 

     

    Beta started over a year ago, developer are testing with their chosen tester  there are daily new builds they develop and run them, thy are  fixing and cleaning bugs on daily basis. Developing, testing, fixing. Read official info and announcements please.

    Only people authorized to declare in what development step DarkFall is are the developers of DarkFall.



     

    Welcome to the Darkfall bandwagon.

    Clearly you do not know the history of the game.. Perhaps YOU should learn that. 

    Maybe.. here.. I'll help you a little..

    The game as been in development with "releasing soon" notices for the past 3 years.  The fact that the video was made.. that only shows 'combat' and 1 or 2 of the supposed shit ton of other features seems VERY suspect.   Even with a 'Short" open beta (assuming it's only 2 weeks??) is not enough time to test everything out.  even with "HIRED testers" until they have have paul over in zone b jumping in and out of the water tapping the P key while dance emoting and Sally over by the castle fighting rabits with her wooden spoon do they know what will and wont' work.

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  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by spacebot


    Darkfall (and Aventurine) are the Barrack Obama of MMOs.
    Pretty, but evasive, inexperienced, and dangerous to the whole.
    But hey, why not build a campaign around nothing but promises on a foundation thats not even remotely solid?


     
    Fixed your post for you.



     

    Your gal pal went to 6 different colleges before getting a degree in journalism rofl, 4 years ago, she aspired to be an anchor woman............

    Back on topic, the Darkfall fans are secretly as sore as the trolls about the beta or lack thereof.

  • flakmonkyflakmonky Member Posts: 210
    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by altairzq



    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    Except for the fact that they are currently well beyond that point. (Hard-ware testing means that they have at least selected some of the people who will make beta.)

    "They have at least selected some of the people who will make the beta" Oh really, you know that for a fact. Please name these so called testers.

     

    I have no need to name them. Aventurine has been careful not to say anything concrete in the past. They have never actually lied to us. Why would they start doing so now? It would gain them nothing.

    I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771
    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by flakmonky

    Originally posted by altairzq



    They will announce that they are considering the possibility of starting a pre selection for players that could be apt to enter the shortly after following open beta in the near future warped in the space time continuum of this universe, or a near one.

     

    Except for the fact that they are currently well beyond that point. (Hard-ware testing means that they have at least selected some of the people who will make beta.)

    "They have at least selected some of the people who will make the beta" Oh really, you know that for a fact. Please name these so called testers.

     

    I have no need to name them. Aventurine has been careful not to say anything concrete in the past. They have never actually lied to us. Why would they start doing so now? It would gain them nothing.



     

    They cannot lie to us technically, b/c they had said absolutely nothing concrete that can be disproved.  The only thing that can be disproved is the wish list of features, and by never issuing a game engine for beta they will remain forever immune to disproving.

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

     

    How long has this hardware testing been going on. I have never seen a company run things like this company does......I know   I know    what you peeps are going to say about that, so no need to post it.  We have all heard it before.

     

     

    Peeps >>>there just being safe, its the smart thing to do 

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  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

     

    How long has this hardware testing been going on. I have never seen a company run things like this company does......I know   I know    what you peeps are going to say about that, so no need to post it.  We have all heard it before.

     

     

    Peeps >>>there just being safe, its the smart thing to do 



     

     

    no, what i've been hearing on here is that the folks at darkfall don't do anything the way anyone else does.... which is why they can start closed beta in october and have the game in stores in 2008.

     

     

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

     

    How long has this hardware testing been going on. I have never seen a company run things like this company does......I know   I know    what you peeps are going to say about that, so no need to post it.  We have all heard it before.

     

     

    Peeps >>>there just being safe, its the smart thing to do 



     

     

    no, what i've been hearing on here is that the folks at darkfall don't do anything the way anyone else does.... which is why they can start closed beta in october and have the game in stores in 2008.

    They better get there butts in gear then, time is running out. If they would just go CB Game play with the DF community and not that BS ""pro tester"" crap they might be able to get it into OB at the end of 1Q 09. But that just me ranting. I just hate when companies do testing with so called pro's that don't find squat. Never have and never will.

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

     

    How long has this hardware testing been going on. I have never seen a company run things like this company does......I know   I know    what you peeps are going to say about that, so no need to post it.  We have all heard it before.

     

     

    Peeps >>>there just being safe, its the smart thing to do 



     

    actully there jsut trying something diffrent

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

     

    How long has this hardware testing been going on. I have never seen a company run things like this company does......I know   I know    what you peeps are going to say about that, so no need to post it.  We have all heard it before.

     

     

    Peeps >>>there just being safe, its the smart thing to do 



     

     

    no, what i've been hearing on here is that the folks at darkfall don't do anything the way anyone else does.... which is why they can start closed beta in october and have the game in stores in 2008.

    They better get there butts in gear then, time is running out. If they would just go CB Game play with the DF community and not that BS ""pro tester"" crap they might be able to get it into OB at the end of 1Q 09. But that just me ranting. I just hate when companies do testing with so called pro's that don't find squat. Never have and never will.

    wanna bet XD

     

    depending who you hire if oyu hire non gamers then well... but if you have gamers then yes youc an get most bugs out of the way from what ive seen betas with thousands of peole havent help in anyway either so stop crying

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ivan2


    There is no playtesting. Only hardware testing.



     

    still a part of beta

     

    How long has this hardware testing been going on. I have never seen a company run things like this company does......I know   I know    what you peeps are going to say about that, so no need to post it.  We have all heard it before.

     

     

    Peeps >>>there just being safe, its the smart thing to do 



     

     

    no, what i've been hearing on here is that the folks at darkfall don't do anything the way anyone else does.... which is why they can start closed beta in october and have the game in stores in 2008.

     

     



     

    to be honest im lil worry about that 1 LOL

    but im 100 percent postitive public playtesting will start before the end of the year AT LEAST

     

  • flakmonkyflakmonky Member Posts: 210

    Originally Posted by Lazor on Forumfall.

    Damn I missed it. Today our school was closed for some reasons and that means that I was free at 12:30, when the presentation of Darkfall took place. But I didn't know it. Otherwise I would have definitely gone there (it's about 15 minutes away from my house).

    Anyway, I learned about the presentation some minutes ago from a greek forum I visit quite often. A guy who went to the presentation said (ok - almost said because it is translated by me ):

    The videos of Darkfall that have been released on the Internet so far (the old gameplay videos etc) looked really bad compared to what I saw at the presentation. The graphics were more polished this time and looked much better.

    There was a beta server (with a few people) for the presentation of the game.

    In general, I would say that Darkfall Online is a hardcore game, with many interesting and unique ideas.



    That's all. Better than nothing

    The latest from the Athens convention. Link to the original here. The ittalic part's original is here.

    Edit: the first link has been deleted. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225

    Beta started in September, people are in, as of 3 days ago we're still in the hardware phase.

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by SignusM


    Beta started in September, people are in, as of 3 days ago we're still in the hardware phase.

    Since it seems like the phrase Beta already started seems to be the mantra for some...

     

    I think the vast majority of us mean .... OPEN BETA! Play-testing-OPEN BETA ... that Beta. That's what we mean when we say Beta.

    Not internal beta

    Not closed beta

    Not professional-tester beta

    Not hardware-testing beta

     

    Just plain old, vanilla, can't be misunderstood... OPEN BETA!  Like the one that Shaar emphasized in his post when he announced the FINISH  to OPEN beta (his emphasis not mine).

     

     

    Was I clear enough in what people usually mean when they say Beta? If not... I can try to elaborate.

     

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by SignusM


    Beta started in September, people are in, as of 3 days ago we're still in the hardware phase.

    Since it seems like the phrase Beta already started seems to be the mantra for some...

     

    I think the vast majority of us mean .... OPEN BETA! Play-testing-OPEN BETA ... that Beta. That's what we mean when we say Beta.

    Not internal beta

    Not closed beta

    Not professional-tester beta

    Not hardware-testing beta

     

    Just plain old, vanilla, can't be misunderstood... OPEN BETA!  Like the one that Shaar emphasized in his post when he announced the FINISH  to OPEN beta (his emphasis not mine).

     

     

    Was I clear enough in what people usually mean when they say Beta? If not... I can try to elaborate.

     

     

    Open beta usually occurs when a product is ready for commercial release, and only lasts a few weeks. As MMOs become more popular, open beta seems to be looked at more of a free sample than the stress test it once was.

    Open beta will come soon before release, and this has been confirmed to be, before December.

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