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Altdrof besieged for 2nd time in two days, WAR campaign broken

On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.

 

Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.

 

Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.

 

In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.

 

Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

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  • NewhopesNewhopes Member Posts: 458

    Well at least they fixed the postern gates.....

  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

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  • Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    Dude every single point in Praag was BLUE yet it got locked by Destruction.  Including both keeps. Order held those points for SIX HOURS and it still flipped.

     

    Do you have any idea what that means?

  • NewhopesNewhopes Member Posts: 458
    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     



     

    Don't know how we can defend much better than this..

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  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    Dude every single point in Praag was BLUE yet it got locked by Destruction.  Including both keeps. Order held those points for SIX HOURS and it still flipped.

     

    Do you have any idea what that means?

     

    Your saying that its bugged in a way that allows Destro to take cap cities without the preliminary captures?

    I would assign war bands to scout the open areas to incoming invasion until this is fixed then.

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  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931

    I agree.. dont play this game YET. It is fun but RVR, taking keeps, citys is just broken and its not going to be fixed in one week. Me and my friend are not going to renew .. were going to just wait a few months.

  • Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    Dude every single point in Praag was BLUE yet it got locked by Destruction.  Including both keeps. Order held those points for SIX HOURS and it still flipped.

     

    Do you have any idea what that means?

     

    Your saying that its bugged in a way that allows Destro to take cap cities without the preliminary captures?

    I would assign war bands to scout the open areas to incoming invasion until this is fixed then.

     

    So you are going to harass them in these zones you have no hope of ever controling instead of fighting at a massively fortified fortress?

     

    Do you have any idea how this game works?

  • bodypassbodypass Member Posts: 770
    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea


     
    Your saying that its bugged in a way that allows Destro to take cap cities without the preliminary captures?
    I would assign war bands to scout the open areas to incoming invasion until this is fixed then.

     

    So you are going to harass them in these zones you have no hope of ever controling instead of fighting at a massively fortified fortress?

     

    Do you have any idea how this game works?



     

    Does Mythic know ?

  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    Dude every single point in Praag was BLUE yet it got locked by Destruction.  Including both keeps. Order held those points for SIX HOURS and it still flipped.

     

    Do you have any idea what that means?

     

    Your saying that its bugged in a way that allows Destro to take cap cities without the preliminary captures?

    I would assign war bands to scout the open areas to incoming invasion until this is fixed then.

     

    So you are going to harass them in these zones you have no hope of ever controling instead of fighting at a massively fortified fortress?

     

    Do you have any idea how this game works?

     

    you tell me man.. !! My last post was telling you to defend the CITY.. and you came off like "Dude .. you can't just defend the city.. they control the zone" and I was then like "Fine send out warbands to take them before they get to your city" and you are like "you have no chance doing that you have to find in the CITY and defend it!"  Wich is it man.

    if it works like other tiers. I would say keep all the order in the Cap city.. if zone control is broken then why even sweat it for now.. fight where you have the most chance of defending the city.

     

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  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786
    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    Dude every single point in Praag was BLUE yet it got locked by Destruction.  Including both keeps. Order held those points for SIX HOURS and it still flipped.

     

    Do you have any idea what that means?

     

    Your saying that its bugged in a way that allows Destro to take cap cities without the preliminary captures?

    I would assign war bands to scout the open areas to incoming invasion until this is fixed then.

     

    VP system is bugged go do some research before you start tellign people how to play on order side. I wish people do some research before they open there mouth.

  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by Getalife

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    Dude every single point in Praag was BLUE yet it got locked by Destruction.  Including both keeps. Order held those points for SIX HOURS and it still flipped.

     

    Do you have any idea what that means?

     

    Your saying that its bugged in a way that allows Destro to take cap cities without the preliminary captures?

    I would assign war bands to scout the open areas to incoming invasion until this is fixed then.

     

    VP system is bugged go do some research before you start tellign people how to play on order side. I wish people do some research before they open there mouth.

    I have read that VP system is bugged and zone control in T4 is wonky.

    The way he is making it sound is that its hopeless to defend a city no matter what due to the control bug.

    And I am not opening my mouth.. I am typing. There is a difference.... ASS.

     

     EDIT: And keep in mind. Destro has more players than order.. meaning thier PQs grinding will move control.. probably more than capturing the keeps and camps. Wich is what I was saying earlier.

     

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  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786

    So i am an ASS because you are an ignorant human-being who jumps the gun without doing any research on the topic in hand? yeah right.

     

    On the concerned server Order grinds more PQ than Destruction. So it doesn't prove anything.  No matter how many PQ you do or capture control points, order can't just get a lock on T4 zones. And no its not because Destruction grinds more PQ.

  • GolominGolomin Member Posts: 141
    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    On Karak Eight Peaks altdrof is currently besieged for the 3rd time and the 2nd time in two days.
     
    Apparently and there are screen shots of this on warhammer alliance.  They locked Praag without having ANY points in the neutral zone of Praag and locked the neutral zone of Dragonwake with 1 out of six points.  On both case Order owned everything else including all keeps, the major RvR points of a zone.
     
    Anyone who believes playing order is anything but a waste of time is deluded.  WARS endgame is broken and has been broken and allowed to fester for 2 weeks.
     
    In addition every win by destruction gives them renown, epxerience and they very best equipment.  Making any server this happens on even more borken.
     
    Do NOT play this game yet.  Seriously.  It has been stated over and over that this is an RvR game.  Is this RvR?  No, its crap.

     

    Why aren't you guys defending the city?

    Any server that destro outnumber order 2-1 will see very one sided RVR battles. Not a game broken issue.. its a player issue.. you can't always tell players what to play.. they will always go for the cooller looking classes.

     

     

    And there's some who do not just care for themselves and actually the game as a whole. I will be staying with those players while you guys go ninja each other's loot... mmmmkay?

  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    soooo destruction lockd up the zones by PQ grinding and winning all the scenarios?

    The keeps and points offer points towards control but holding them isnt REQUIRED for control , just the bonus.

     

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by Getalife


    So i am an ASS because you are an ignorant human-being who jumps the gun without doing any research on the topic in hand? yeah right.
     
    On the concerned server Order grinds more PQ than Destruction. So it doesn't prove anything.  No matter how many PQ you do or capture control points, order can't just get a lock on T4 zones. And no its not because Destruction grinds more PQ.

     

    Think about all the Destruction that are in T3.. that get control of T3, and then that trickles to T4, and all the Destro in T4 doing more of what order can due just off sheer numbers alone.

    Sure having control of the keeps aren't goign to lock the zone if everything else is being done more by Destro.

    Since Mythic has YET to release the secret to zone control entirely. we can't be sure WHAT it requires fully to cap a zone. Sure you know Scenarios, PQs, Keep caps, open RVR kills, Quests are all goign to contribute to it.. and you are suprised that the faction with twice as many players are getting control. Come on now.. you had to expect that.

    When the servers show Destro and being favored in all counts and people saying 2 weeks ago that OPEN RVR would be completly imballanced. Were you all just blind then ? Now that it also effects T4 and Cap Cities NOw do you chose to moan?

    I have read cases where Destro are creating T3 alts just to gain control of T3 to push thier t4 offensive on a cap.

    T1 and T2 if taken by Order, mean nothing to T4 if  T3 is taken by the Destruction.

     

    Where are you getting that information? a website? or making it up.. how do you know order grinds more PQS?  LINK PLEASE

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  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by Gorair


    soooo destruction lockd up the zones by PQ grinding and winning all the scenarios?
    The keeps and points offer points towards control but holding them isnt REQUIRED for control , just the bonus.
     

     

    That is what looks like is happening.. but again.. me saying anything isn't going to mean a thing.. The only thing you can do is muster a defense that is that.. and since you are naturally outnumbered get ready to be roughed up.

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  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786

    If you do a little research like i said you will find that Mark Jacobs himself admittied that VP are not workign properly in T4. T3 control has nothign to do with getting lock on T4 zones.

    Like i said on this server destruction is always crying that order does too much PQ and Scenarios. So why are we not getting locks on T4 zones. After grinding PQ's and farming scenarios whole day, controlling every single keep and control point we are still left with nothing.

     

  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    do more PQ's to the end and win them, win more scenarios where the numbers are even.

    every so often run out and grab a single point in a zone every few hours. then go away and make them retake it. keep doing things that give you points for control the PVP stuff is fastest but other ways you can do it work too just slower.

     

     

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • NewhopesNewhopes Member Posts: 458

    This is what happened, We controlled all keeps and BO in T4 and we where getting points from T3 we had warbands out kicking desto arse all over the place and we won most scenario's hell because they wasen't many desto around we even had groups farming PQ's yet we couldn't even get close locking any of the zones. After a while most logged out in disgust then about an hour later destro take a few BO and lock the zones in same time it takes to play a scenario.

  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by Getalife


    If you do a little research like i said you will find that Mark Jacobs himself admittied that VP are not workign properly in T4 (link please). T3 control has nothign to do with getting lock on T4 zones. (noone knows how VP is calculated so you have no idea if this is 100% fact, it has been said that contribution to T3 does roll over to T4 so dont' say NOTHING)
    Like i said on this server destruction is always crying that order does too much PQ and Scenarios.(WTF? on Forums they are saying this? Link please) So why are we not getting locks on T4 zones. After grinding PQ's and farming scenarios whole day, controlling every single keep and control point we are still left with nothing (show me where Mark said that the VP calc is broken, cause all those other factors apply, you would have to show me proof that Order is doing more Quests, PQs, Scenario victories, Caps, open rvr kills, all that. You can just assume .. "yea order is doing all that more cause Destro is bitching." Show me where the facts are, not some whiney post on some forum)
     

     

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  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786
    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by Getalife


    So i am an ASS because you are an ignorant human-being who jumps the gun without doing any research on the topic in hand? yeah right.
     
    On the concerned server Order grinds more PQ than Destruction. So it doesn't prove anything.  No matter how many PQ you do or capture control points, order can't just get a lock on T4 zones. And no its not because Destruction grinds more PQ.

     

    Think about all the Destruction that are in T3.. that get control of T3, and then that trickles to T4, and all the Destro in T4 doing more of what order can due just off sheer numbers alone.

    Sure having control of the keeps aren't goign to lock the zone if everything else is being done more by Destro.

    Since Mythic has YET to release the secret to zone control entirely. we can't be sure WHAT it requires fully to cap a zone. Sure you know Scenarios, PQs, Keep caps, open RVR kills, Quests are all goign to contribute to it.. and you are suprised that the faction with twice as many players are getting control. Come on now.. you had to expect that.

    When the servers show Destro and being favored in all counts and people saying 2 weeks ago that OPEN RVR would be completly imballanced. Were you all just blind then ? Now that it also effects T4 and Cap Cities NOw do you chose to moan?

    I have read cases where Destro are creating T3 alts just to gain control of T3 to push thier t4 offensive on a cap.

    T1 and T2 if taken by Order, mean nothing to T4 if  T3 is taken by the Destruction.

     

    Where are you getting that information? a website? or making it up.. how do you know order grinds more PQS?  LINK PLEASE

     

    Warhammeralliance.com Read as much as you want on Karak Eight Peaks section.

    I am not going to argue with you anymore until you read the problems regarding VP system which is bugged and favors destruction at the moment.

    There are way too many posts and it will take me a long ime to link everything. I spent many days goign through this website so i suggest you do the same and get some clear information about the bugs affecting T4.

  • PangaeaPangaea Member Posts: 434
    Originally posted by Newhopes


    This is what happened, We controlled all keeps and BO in T4 and we where getting points from T3 we had warbands out kicking desto arse all over the place and we won most scenario's hell because they wasen't many desto around we even had groups farming PQ's yet we couldn't even get close locking any of the zones. After a while most logged out in disgust then about an hour later destro take a few BO and lock the zones in same time it takes to play a scenario.

     

    Have we ruled out that it could be QUESTS that contribute HEAVY to this? I am really thinking its a population thing. Its broken in gernal because its something mythic didn't think about when they made it. the skew in population. I think it needs to be reevaluated on what points go to where when taking population into account.

    God forbid the questing could contibute. That would keep the zone at bay just off the Destro players questing.

     

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  • NewhopesNewhopes Member Posts: 458
    Originally posted by Pangaea

    Originally posted by Newhopes


    This is what happened, We controlled all keeps and BO in T4 and we where getting points from T3 we had warbands out kicking desto arse all over the place and we won most scenario's hell because they wasen't many desto around we even had groups farming PQ's yet we couldn't even get close locking any of the zones. After a while most logged out in disgust then about an hour later destro take a few BO and lock the zones in same time it takes to play a scenario.

     

    Have we ruled out that it could be QUESTS that contribute HEAVY to this? I am really thinking its a population thing. Its broken in gernal because its something mythic didn't think about when they made it. the skew in population. I think it needs to be reevaluated on what points go to where when taking population into account.

    God forbid the questing could contibute. That would keep the zone at bay just off the Destro players questing.

     



     

    This happened on Karak eight pecks so the population shouldn't have been an issue, from what i'am hearing it's happened or is happening on some of the us servers as well.

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582

    They really should have allowed this content to be tested in the open beta.

  • BladinBladin Member UncommonPosts: 1,089

    I love WAR the game, but quit because of the server imbalances, and world emptiness.  I'll say WAR at it's base is my favorite mmo out there.

    But i still have to say

    lawlz, fanboys, defend the bugs all you want, make fake excuses, go for it.  It's seriously funny.

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