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I hope they make Black Guards this overpowered
Endlos
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Here's a fun sample hit against my Chosen:
Oh, and Earthshatter is AoE.
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He hit you so hard, you died twice! Yeah. Ironbreakers are too much at the moment.
Well, everything needs adjustment.. but dont think its that big a problem atm.
I'd also like to point out how the next 4 down are Bright Wizards. Ha! That pretty much sums up game balance right there.
You guys want some crackers with your whine? Play one when you are envious, then when you realize they have their faults as well come back and whine some more...
Really hard to kill.
Do good damage with some flat-out busted spikes for a tank class.
Have some of the best CC in the game depending on spec (all of them get a knockback that has the same arc as the ranged classes morale abilities and if they spec for it they get an AOE knockback+snare on a 10 second cooldown on top of that).
Looking for the faults, not seeing any. I guess if they don't bring a healer on their team they may, eventually, get killed?
What class are you? You don't seem to have any damage reduction at all.
Tor Anroc is horrible, i dont even cue up for it anymore. yes i am destruction, and all the order do is knock you back in the lava. they really need to do something about it.
yep they should get rid of this map until blackguards are put into the game.
I've played with him before - he is a well-specced Chosen. Which makes it even more unbelievable.
I've played with him before - he is a well-specced Chosen. Which makes it even more unbelievable.
Wow man thats crazy, that is just way to powerful to do dmg to a tank.
I hate that place to and its just not order knocking people back I always get knocked back by destruction in the lava it sucks.
heh, when i was in Tor Anroc all destro ever did was knock us in the lava, or take the flag into that space underneith the ramp in the destro starting area. I think both parties are just as guilty of the former.
And maybe they can fix destro having a faster route to the flag problem while they are at it too, lol.
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Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
The IB and BO have increased damage to balance the Greenskin/dwarf zone.
Once the hammerer and choppa are released they will see a decrease in damage.
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First off, you look like you have almost no dmg reduction. Secondly, he landed a critical hit on you which doesn't happen often and he might have large amounts of weapon skill. I've hit people for close to that amount as a White Lion but only with a critical hit.
LOL this is too good. You know the exact thing is said on the order side? Probably even more so because tanks are more popular on the destro side...
I love how people are so ignorant to only remember the bad times and not the good ones. I always hear people say "omg order are so bad they cant heal, tank, dps etc..." but of course they forget the time that they rolled the other team and thought "wow they were really bad"
Trust me, destro try to only kb people just as much as order. Ive personally fought a tank 1v1 where he didnt even try to come dps me, he only tried to keep repositioning himself for a kb while i kept my back to a wall, eventually he tried to kb and got me 1/2 way there. I am sure the same has happened on the other side of the factions.
Stuff like this always cracks me up.
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Ever heard of skills that reduce the armor by a lot? Yeah.. IBs are that bad at the moment,
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I play order and could easily show you the exact same thing coming from the side of destro. Hell, I get hit for over 2k at times with destro aoe abilities. Stop pretending that order is the only one who can knock people off into the lava, I spend half my time there.
A) A witch elf is a melee dps class with paper armor and low HP totals that gets ripped apart in mere moments, even by splash AOE, if they aren't backed by a healer. An Ironbreaker is more or less tied with the other three tanks in terms of "virtually impossible to kill if they have healers unless 4 BWs (or Sorcs in the case of Destro) focus fire on them" and putting out that kind of damage. See where your comaparison is flawed?
C) No, they don't.
As for why I didn't mitigate more than two damage from that grossly overpowered attack, I honestly don't know. Maybe I was armor stripped beforehand, as armor strips and reductions are common for both sides. That's the only thing I can figure offhand for why the full damage went through.
I can see the blackguard having a Simlilar AOE kb.
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LOL!
I posted a link on the guild forums, see what Chuck has to say.
I'm interested to see his response, shed some light on it. Hopefully it isn't just a "I'm not overpowered, lol" reply and contains some good info.
I find it humorous his name spells out to "chuck over" much attributed to what he does best in Tor Anroc. Heh.
I'm curious, did they ever fix the hole in armor bug found in beta that makes it possible (even with 75% PR, 7k health and a toughness over 600) for any melee to hit for 2-5k?
This was another bug that seemed to make it to live that people exploit through certain numbers in weapon + Strength that makes fighting IB almost impossible once grudge is built up (same bug rumored that BG was experienceing that they couldn't fix).
I guess, I'll continue to wait til December to make a decision on picking this game up or thm fixing what I reported constantly from beginning to end in beta.
Got dammit this pisses me off
A) A witch elf is a melee dps class with paper armor and low HP totals that gets ripped apart in mere moments, even by splash AOE, if they aren't backed by a healer. An Ironbreaker is more or less tied with the other three tanks in terms of "virtually impossible to kill if they have healers unless 4 BWs (or Sorcs in the case of Destro) focus fire on them" and putting out that kind of damage. See where your comaparison is flawed?
C) No, they don't.
As for why I didn't mitigate more than two damage from that grossly overpowered attack, I honestly don't know. Maybe I was armor stripped beforehand, as armor strips and reductions are common for both sides. That's the only thing I can figure offhand for why the full damage went through.
It's a bug man, confirmed back in beta and it should have been fixed, I even had a picture of a BW hitting me once for 10k in damage (1 on 1) archived on beta forums , which they said would be fixed before live (some BW abilities that caused this was taken out completely).Look at the archive and my post on this man (my posting name was Jalaar).
It was a bug that was confirmed to exist in the game and coupled with debuffs from KoTBS it was even higher than that ( 8k health and being hit for 11k damage on crit, probably a reason they were taken out to). Check the numbers again and have Chuck (if possible) PM you his stats to calculate modifers (bet they won't add up).
A) A witch elf is a melee dps class with paper armor and low HP totals that gets ripped apart in mere moments, even by splash AOE, if they aren't backed by a healer. An Ironbreaker is more or less tied with the other three tanks in terms of "virtually impossible to kill if they have healers unless 4 BWs (or Sorcs in the case of Destro) focus fire on them" and putting out that kind of damage. See where your comaparison is flawed?
C) No, they don't.
As for why I didn't mitigate more than two damage from that grossly overpowered attack, I honestly don't know. Maybe I was armor stripped beforehand, as armor strips and reductions are common for both sides. That's the only thing I can figure offhand for why the full damage went through.
LOL, please, Black Orcs and Shamans knock me into the lava all the time..... If you want to prove that IB's are OP, then list the entire log of damage he was doing to you, instead of just posting the one critical hit.
And where is the rest of the players? I'm sure there wasn't just 4 order players in that scenario... I average in the 40k range all the time as IB, now compare that to DPS classes that hit over 100k on a regular basis... As for the 3 bright wizards you posted, either they were messin around or you photoshopped that screen shot... The bright wizards in my guild on there worse day still hit over 80k damage in scenarios
Also by the time you hit lvl 29 a IB will have several AOE attacks, they don't do a lot of damage to the individual target but being able to hit 4-5 enemies in a crowed adds up fast for the total amount of damage in a game.
yeah that is si weak dps. REally , now my bro in t2 witha sorc does 90-100k most often, so the tank may have done 47k which is pretty weak seeing as i hope sorcs and bw can do 120-150k there in t3.
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A) A witch elf is a melee dps class with paper armor and low HP totals that gets ripped apart in mere moments, even by splash AOE, if they aren't backed by a healer. An Ironbreaker is more or less tied with the other three tanks in terms of "virtually impossible to kill if they have healers unless 4 BWs (or Sorcs in the case of Destro) focus fire on them" and putting out that kind of damage. See where your comaparison is flawed?
C) No, they don't.
As for why I didn't mitigate more than two damage from that grossly overpowered attack, I honestly don't know. Maybe I was armor stripped beforehand, as armor strips and reductions are common for both sides. That's the only thing I can figure offhand for why the full damage went through.
LOL, please, Black Orcs and Shamans knock me into the lava all the time..... I'm sure they do, but they don't have a KB that has a morale ability arc and range on a 20second cooldown and they don't have a path tactic-able AOE KB+snare on a 10 second cooldown and not linked to any morale or mechanic cost like IB does. Trust me, Destro have some knockbacks, but nothing they have touches the KB power of a single IB. Keep in mind here that an IB speccing for Earthshatter won't have the AOE KB+Snare, so that subset of their overpoweredness is simply two separate arguments. They're forced to choose between AOE nukes or some of the most spammable CC in the game, boo hoo. If you want to prove that IB's are OP, then list the entire log of damage he was doing to you, instead of just posting the one critical hit. Because outdamaging everyone else in the scenario, including 4 bright wizards, wasn't enough proof? Because one crit for a huge portion of my life, when I'm a tank and the person hitting me is a tank, is okay?
And where is the rest of the players? Not relevant. I left the scroll bar in the screenshot so you could see I was at the top of the list. I'm sure there wasn't just 4 order players in that scenario... I average in the 40k range all the time as IB, now compare that to DPS classes that hit over 100k on a regular basis... As for the 3 there were four bright wizards you posted, either they were messin around maybe or you photoshopped that screen shot Yeah, because I have nothing better to do with my time than invent things and lie to make something look overpowered. I could have just made another thread about BWs being overpowered (compared to sorcs) and it would've been a lot easier, and I wouldn't have to lie.... The bright wizards in my guild on there worse day still hit over 80k damage in scenarios Well the lava and the tank dropping AOE damage for as large as a BW's single target nuke probably interferes with their ability to accrue a lot damage.
Also by the time you hit lvl 29 a IB will have several 2, if they spec for earthshatter AOE attacks, they don't do a lot of damage did you see my screencap? to the individual target DID YOU SEE MY SCREENCAP? but being able to hit 4-5 enemies in a crowed adds up fast for the total amount of damage in a game. Especially when they are AOEing for as much damage as a Bright Wizard's single target nuke. I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot here, hopefully it sinks in.
"I" at the top of the list meaning I had scrolled to the top, not that I was anywhere near the top of the list. I'm a chosen, I'm a tank. I do tank (supposed to be poorish) damage at the cost of surviving in the fight for longer, having a small variety of CC to work with, and Guard.
Any person with 1 clicking finger can simply crop an image in MSpaint so that it is more convenient to post in a thread. There were more people in the match - he just cropped the image so you wouldn't have an entire 1280x1024 image crowding the thread.
I was with Endlos in this scenario. Hell, I was even on Ventrilo with him when it happened. I can vouch for the validity of his images. I witnessed his fall.