The WoW community. Haven't heard a single reference to whatzisface, Walker, Texas Ranger.
on my time in WAR i heard no one talk at all. Even a immature community is better than none
Not to my way of thinking. I like it quiet compared to idiocy.
Yup.. if you can't say something smart.. don't say it at all.
/closethread
The more posts I see like this the more I get the impression that WAR is full of miserable, sourfaced misery guts who think its such serious F'ing business that you should ONLY speak when you have something constructive to say - else keep your trap shut.
It's a game for crying out loud - what's wrong with having FUN? Each to their own, but quite frankly I'd take Barrens chat over complete and utter silence any day. I can play a single player game for that.
With every day that passes I'm more resolute in my decision not to try WAR.
P.S: I eagerly await the obligatory 'good, stay in WoW' reply from an aforementioned misery guts.
I dont play both games at the moment, but my opinion is:
1. WoW has more content (and then some with new expansion). WaR content and most areas look the same.
2. In WoW, I liked to explore and see new areas, in WaR, I didn't even bother reading quest information and just go for a grind.
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything.
4. WoW has flying mounts.
5. WoW had fishing skill. I love it. Exploration was great, you never knew what fantastic items you will find by fishing, not to mention the Fishing Contest every Sunday if I recall. It was glorious. Geez, I really miss that game.
6. Maybe its just me, but never could get used to WaR's combat mechanics. In WoW I loved the rogue. In WaR I could not stand how to move with a witch hunter or a witch elf.
7. WoW skies, atmosphere, it was great, like a fantasy game should be, very immersive. WaR is just bland (the snow stormy weather in WaR was great though)
8. Spells! Your spell caster in WoW will have many spells to choose from. In WaR it is ridiculous that at level 25+ what you get it's just career tactics/morale abilities that for the most part were useless for my Zealot.
9. I can continue but I am sick with the flu. Overall WaR is a PvP/RvR oriented game. The major flaw is that if you really want to do the real RvR you need to get a guild that likes to raid RvR objectives. Otherwise, it's the biggest grind eva!
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything.
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
WoW = been out for a long time and has released a lot more content, it did not start with everything it has now on day 1, War has been out a month?
WoW pvp - stun, lockdown, fear, etc <> fun, no tactics, dull and designed for e-peni experience of twinking
WaR rvr - roots, knockbacks <> fun, can win using tactics in some maps but others are zergs like wow bg, not a lot of twinking possible because you out level the scenario
items and crafting gear drops in War RVR
Wow - crafting is click and yawn but has a lot more depth than War atm
War crafting - very weak and dull although scavanging from dead players is kinda fun
Wow - bright and cartoony
War - drab, gritty and cartoony
WoW bloated and top heavy with years of poeple being at 70
War - players spread out a bit too much atm so you dont win either way
if you like WoW go play it
If you like War go play it
currently i play both cause i like aspects of each one
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything.
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
Similar!!, ripped so directly from WaR that its embarressing when my gf doesnt know what game im playing because she thought WaR had achivements...omfg
Wow is the master of stealing ideas from everywhere but normaly they put their own WoWish spin on it but achievements are a blatant rip, tragic.
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything.
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
Similar!!, ripped so directly from WaR that its embarressing when my gf doesnt know what game im playing because she thought WaR had achivements...omfg
Wow is the master of stealing ideas from everywhere but normaly they put their own WoWish spin on it but achievements are a blatant rip, tragic.
I really don't see the issue with this. Blizzard saw a good idea and incorporated it into their game. It's not like the ToK was copyrighted. They would be stupid to not capitalise on a popular concept.
OP: you're right. Absolutely nothing. I canceled WAR after two days. Couldn't stand the grind, the ridiculously piss-poor animations, and all the bugs. By the time I got to level 3 I knew the game was going downhill from there. The battlegrounds are worse than WoW's. The scenarios are meaningless because they don't affect the real world. Thank God WoW doesn't have a grind. WoW has MUCH better RvR too - it's called ARENA - the single greatest PvP mode in MMO history. Fun, exciting, BALANCED (every class is equally represented, as it should be) - unlike the horribly imbalanced mess that is WAR.
/facepalm
This guy either has no idea what he is talking about or he is a very good troll. Im still trying to decide.
i like how people always say WaR does PvP right...it doesnt...it doesnt even get RvR right and it sad.
I dont sub to either game right now but WoW's combat is *WORLDS* smoother and fuild than WaRs.
and right now RvR is barren and dead and even when its alive its break down door 1 break down door 2 run in keep take a left kill the lord.
whooppieee, i cant belive thats all mythic could come up with ....Old School AV was words better than any of the RvR zones Mythic came up and that was 4 years ago !
I dont play both games at the moment, but my opinion is:
1. WoW has more content (and then some with new expansion). WaR content and most areas look the same. WAR has been out 1 month & I suspect you have not been in many of the T3 and particularly the T4 zones, they are awesome. The destruction T4 zones make me drool... they completely follow what I would expect from lore.
2. In WoW, I liked to explore and see new areas, in WaR, I didn't even bother reading quest information and just go for a grind. Maybe you should have run around into the higher tiers and explored. There are some really neat things hidden away in little corners of each zone. Plus, you don't always have to stay on the Order or Destruction side of each zone. The other sides have interesting things too.
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything. WoW has about 1/2 the content of other "old" games, WAR will also expand similarly.
4. WoW has flying mounts. After how many years? I'm sure if the players demand it, it will appear down the road in WAR too.
5. WoW had fishing skill. I love it. Exploration was great, you never knew what fantastic items you will find by fishing, not to mention the Fishing Contest every Sunday if I recall. It was glorious. Geez, I really miss that game. Fishing was one of the coolest aspects of many games, I don't know why Mythic hasn't put it in either of theirs.
6. Maybe its just me, but never could get used to WaR's combat mechanics. In WoW I loved the rogue. In WaR I could not stand how to move with a witch hunter or a witch elf. I could say the time honored "learn to play," but instead I'll say, get used to being a rogue that spends most of it's time visible rather than invisible. It's different mechanics, but I can tell you that the two rogue classes are very deadly once a player figures out how to make them work.
7. WoW skies, atmosphere, it was great, like a fantasy game should be, very immersive. WaR is just bland (the snow stormy weather in WaR was great though) You really need to see some of the higher tier zones, I found them more immersive than WoW. I will admit to being bored with the scenery in T1 and T2.
8. Spells! Your spell caster in WoW will have many spells to choose from. In WaR it is ridiculous that at level 25+ what you get it's just career tactics/morale abilities that for the most part were useless for my Zealot. Did you spec for any abilities in your mastery? I found that zealot started to shine 25+. In fact, it is my only character I have taken beyond 20 so far.
9. I can continue but I am sick with the flu. Overall WaR is a PvP/RvR oriented game. The major flaw is that if you really want to do the real RvR you need to get a guild that likes to raid RvR objectives. Otherwise, it's the biggest grind eva!
To be honest, it sounds to me that you got to about 20ish and realised the grind becomes bad about 21+ and gave up on the game having seen about 20% of the content. That's all fine, but WAR has more to offer than grinding. By the time I was 25, I had visited nearly every zone, died hundreds of times exploring, and found that the game had much more to offer than I thought. I was on the verge of cancelling and after doing a little exploring and seeing what I had to look forward to, I resubbed. It's my belief that the game is solid and that the changes needed to make the game as finished as the "older" games are going to come in short order.
i like how people always say WaR does PvP right...it doesnt...it doesnt even get RvR right and it sad. I dont sub to either game right now but WoW's combat is *WORLDS* smoother and fuild than WaRs. and right now RvR is barren and dead and even when its alive its break down door 1 break down door 2 run in keep take a left kill the lord. whooppieee, i cant belive thats all mythic could come up with ....Old School AV was words better than any of the RvR zones Mythic came up and that was 4 years ago !
wtf
Well give WAR 4-5 years and will be smooth as well, and as for the PVP hey atleast they tried i personally dont find t that boring i think it is set up wrong yes it should be the other way around so there are more ppl in Open RvR instead of scenario's but hey we get what we get, if i want to PVE i will play something other than WAR but for PVP at the moment it is one of the better one's out there.
What is it exactly you want from PVP? (not a smart ass question just wondering)
I think the problem these days is that ppl want everything and they want it now, what ever happened to exploring?, yes going out and exploring and finding things that others had not, what ever happened to working to acheive your rewards? no 1 wants to do a litlle grinding anymore thay just want things handed to em, what ever happened to the MMO community as it once was? Now all i see is so many whiners not enough players, and in that i mean no 1 can just play a game and be happy anymore, they want to have every piece of all game's in one but when some 1 try's it and something dont work they can do nothing but come down on it.
You know what i used to do if my console games were crap? sell it and move on but these day's in the genre of MMORPG's ppl just hold grudges and can't seem to let go. Have a good think about why you choose to play MMO's cause to me from what i see a lot of ppl complaining about in near on most MMO's out there i thnik they are barking up the wrong tree cause obviously this genre does not cater for you. Games will focus on 1 aspect moreso than the Other WoW has even done this with PVE, WAR PVP, LoTRO PVE, AoC ? who knows what they were trying to do PVE i think? , i guess what i am saying is that game's will be different and not made specifically for you as an individual so when a game does not deliver what you want then just maybe that game is not for you ,as much as you want it to be and you should try to move on with your life and try something else, take a break or leave the genre for good. Just my opinon.
Originally posted by Rhoklaw WAR does do PvP right, by giving players incentive to fight. What did WoW give before the latest patch for killing opposing forces? NOTHING!
And you know what ? People in WOW actually pvped for fun without any rewards, before a ranking system etc. came out !
OP: you're right. Absolutely nothing. I canceled WAR after two days. Couldn't stand the grind, the ridiculously piss-poor animations, and all the bugs. By the time I got to level 3 I knew the game was going downhill from there. The battlegrounds are worse than WoW's. The scenarios are meaningless because they don't affect the real world. Thank God WoW doesn't have a grind. WoW has MUCH better RvR too - it's called ARENA - the single greatest PvP mode in MMO history. Fun, exciting, BALANCED (every class is equally represented, as it should be) - unlike the horribly imbalanced mess that is WAR.
what a dilusional little world you live in especially the part about balance.
WAR does for pvp what WoW did for PVE that it. Nuff said
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything.
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
Similar!!, ripped so directly from WaR that its embarressing when my gf doesnt know what game im playing because she thought WaR had achivements...omfg
Wow is the master of stealing ideas from everywhere but normaly they put their own WoWish spin on it but achievements are a blatant rip, tragic.
Before you go crying a river about WoW ripping off the tome from Warhammer, perhaps you should take a quick trip over to LOTRO and see where both games got their ideas from. Sorry mate, but neither game came up with this idea first.
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Wow doesn't have graphics I can stand, War does.
on my time in WAR i heard no one talk at all. Even a immature community is better than none
Not to my way of thinking. I like it quiet compared to idiocy.
Yup.. if you can't say something smart.. don't say it at all.
/closethread
The more posts I see like this the more I get the impression that WAR is full of miserable, sourfaced misery guts who think its such serious F'ing business that you should ONLY speak when you have something constructive to say - else keep your trap shut.
It's a game for crying out loud - what's wrong with having FUN? Each to their own, but quite frankly I'd take Barrens chat over complete and utter silence any day. I can play a single player game for that.
With every day that passes I'm more resolute in my decision not to try WAR.
P.S: I eagerly await the obligatory 'good, stay in WoW' reply from an aforementioned misery guts.
I dont play both games at the moment, but my opinion is:
1. WoW has more content (and then some with new expansion). WaR content and most areas look the same.
2. In WoW, I liked to explore and see new areas, in WaR, I didn't even bother reading quest information and just go for a grind.
3.WoW doesn't have a Tome of Knowledge and I never care about it. Content is more important than a book for bragging rights. WoW have so much content that I NEVER had the time to explore everything.
4. WoW has flying mounts.
5. WoW had fishing skill. I love it. Exploration was great, you never knew what fantastic items you will find by fishing, not to mention the Fishing Contest every Sunday if I recall. It was glorious. Geez, I really miss that game.
6. Maybe its just me, but never could get used to WaR's combat mechanics. In WoW I loved the rogue. In WaR I could not stand how to move with a witch hunter or a witch elf.
7. WoW skies, atmosphere, it was great, like a fantasy game should be, very immersive. WaR is just bland (the snow stormy weather in WaR was great though)
8. Spells! Your spell caster in WoW will have many spells to choose from. In WaR it is ridiculous that at level 25+ what you get it's just career tactics/morale abilities that for the most part were useless for my Zealot.
9. I can continue but I am sick with the flu. Overall WaR is a PvP/RvR oriented game. The major flaw is that if you really want to do the real RvR you need to get a guild that likes to raid RvR objectives. Otherwise, it's the biggest grind eva!
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
WoW = been out for a long time and has released a lot more content, it did not start with everything it has now on day 1, War has been out a month?
WoW pvp - stun, lockdown, fear, etc <> fun, no tactics, dull and designed for e-peni experience of twinking
WaR rvr - roots, knockbacks <> fun, can win using tactics in some maps but others are zergs like wow bg, not a lot of twinking possible because you out level the scenario
items and crafting gear drops in War RVR
Wow - crafting is click and yawn but has a lot more depth than War atm
War crafting - very weak and dull although scavanging from dead players is kinda fun
Wow - bright and cartoony
War - drab, gritty and cartoony
WoW bloated and top heavy with years of poeple being at 70
War - players spread out a bit too much atm so you dont win either way
if you like WoW go play it
If you like War go play it
currently i play both cause i like aspects of each one
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
Similar!!, ripped so directly from WaR that its embarressing when my gf doesnt know what game im playing because she thought WaR had achivements...omfg
Wow is the master of stealing ideas from everywhere but normaly they put their own WoWish spin on it but achievements are a blatant rip, tragic.
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
Similar!!, ripped so directly from WaR that its embarressing when my gf doesnt know what game im playing because she thought WaR had achivements...omfg
Wow is the master of stealing ideas from everywhere but normaly they put their own WoWish spin on it but achievements are a blatant rip, tragic.
I really don't see the issue with this. Blizzard saw a good idea and incorporated it into their game. It's not like the ToK was copyrighted. They would be stupid to not capitalise on a popular concept.
/facepalm
This guy either has no idea what he is talking about or he is a very good troll. Im still trying to decide.
WAR has WAR lore which WoW doesnt have.
Meaning if you like WoW go and play Wow, simple as that.
Itis futile comparing them like you have, WoW has been out 4 + years and as such will have better content and polish.
Crash to desktops, and fluid combat
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Define "fluid combat" for me please. I'm intrigued.
The real question that we all need to ask, does it matter?
Hmmm, my smart answer wasnt so smart after all.
Crashes To Desktops and Not-So-Fluid combat
There I fixed it.
i like how people always say WaR does PvP right...it doesnt...it doesnt even get RvR right and it sad.
I dont sub to either game right now but WoW's combat is *WORLDS* smoother and fuild than WaRs.
and right now RvR is barren and dead and even when its alive its break down door 1 break down door 2 run in keep take a left kill the lord.
whooppieee, i cant belive thats all mythic could come up with ....Old School AV was words better than any of the RvR zones Mythic came up and that was 4 years ago !
wtf
WAR has a community ? You havent heard any reference to Chuck Norris, i havent heard anything.
To be honest, it sounds to me that you got to about 20ish and realised the grind becomes bad about 21+ and gave up on the game having seen about 20% of the content. That's all fine, but WAR has more to offer than grinding. By the time I was 25, I had visited nearly every zone, died hundreds of times exploring, and found that the game had much more to offer than I thought. I was on the verge of cancelling and after doing a little exploring and seeing what I had to look forward to, I resubbed. It's my belief that the game is solid and that the changes needed to make the game as finished as the "older" games are going to come in short order.
Well give WAR 4-5 years and will be smooth as well, and as for the PVP hey atleast they tried i personally dont find t that boring i think it is set up wrong yes it should be the other way around so there are more ppl in Open RvR instead of scenario's but hey we get what we get, if i want to PVE i will play something other than WAR but for PVP at the moment it is one of the better one's out there.
What is it exactly you want from PVP? (not a smart ass question just wondering)
I think the problem these days is that ppl want everything and they want it now, what ever happened to exploring?, yes going out and exploring and finding things that others had not, what ever happened to working to acheive your rewards? no 1 wants to do a litlle grinding anymore thay just want things handed to em, what ever happened to the MMO community as it once was? Now all i see is so many whiners not enough players, and in that i mean no 1 can just play a game and be happy anymore, they want to have every piece of all game's in one but when some 1 try's it and something dont work they can do nothing but come down on it.
You know what i used to do if my console games were crap? sell it and move on but these day's in the genre of MMORPG's ppl just hold grudges and can't seem to let go. Have a good think about why you choose to play MMO's cause to me from what i see a lot of ppl complaining about in near on most MMO's out there i thnik they are barking up the wrong tree cause obviously this genre does not cater for you. Games will focus on 1 aspect moreso than the Other WoW has even done this with PVE, WAR PVP, LoTRO PVE, AoC ? who knows what they were trying to do PVE i think? , i guess what i am saying is that game's will be different and not made specifically for you as an individual so when a game does not deliver what you want then just maybe that game is not for you ,as much as you want it to be and you should try to move on with your life and try something else, take a break or leave the genre for good. Just my opinon.
And you know what ? People in WOW actually pvped for fun without any rewards, before a ranking system etc. came out !
A completely different object to the game.
WoW = questing and raiding for better gear
WAR = winning the WAR
what a dilusional little world you live in especially the part about balance.
WAR does for pvp what WoW did for PVE that it. Nuff said
A completely different object to the game.
WoW = questing and raiding for better gear
WAR = winning the WAR over and over and over and over
It is not WoW. That is all. I am tired of the same fucking game over and over.This is little better but hey it is new and I find it fun for now.
WoW has achievements now which is similar to ToK. I agree in that I don't much care for it - but I was doing a BG the other day and unlocked about 5 achievements I didn't even know about which was quite fun.
Similar!!, ripped so directly from WaR that its embarressing when my gf doesnt know what game im playing because she thought WaR had achivements...omfg
Wow is the master of stealing ideas from everywhere but normaly they put their own WoWish spin on it but achievements are a blatant rip, tragic.
Before you go crying a river about WoW ripping off the tome from Warhammer, perhaps you should take a quick trip over to LOTRO and see where both games got their ideas from. Sorry mate, but neither game came up with this idea first.
To the OP... My Money