The brothers of the ones that died will be the future terrorists.
I'm disgusted by this statement. Seriously, QQ
These... these... abominations don't mind dying in the slightest, remember they are highly rewarded by Allah. These are the same people that strap on bombs and kill tens or hundreds of children in schools. The 'ones that died', had a mission of death for themselves and others. Their 'brothers' are most likely (100%) terrorists themselves by the way. If they think about becoming a terrorist because their brother died, which was his mission, well that is darwin law right there.
I guess they feel people like you are worth dying to fight. When I read your post, I naturally found myself on the side of the suicide bombers who kill tens or hundreds of children in schools.
I suspect that people who are willing to give their own lives to fight their enemies have thought a lot harder about that sacrifice than you clearly have.
1) RISKING your life fighting and outright suicidal behavior are two COMPLETELY different things. I have INFINATELY more respect for someone who put their life on the line but will fight to do it again later (read OUR military) then someone who assumes there is nothing they can do after this, so they go kill themselves in the name of whatever they are doing this for (read the suicide bombers). ALL reasons behind it aside (and "collateral damage" you know... like the SCHOOL FULL OF FREAKING KIDS) that alone puts them as pathetic. Period.
2) HIDING among civilians is equally pathetic. Honor does not exist... call my judgemental, but that is all they show me.
3) How the HELL do you support even for a SECOND, the suiciders at this point? Seriously, that suggests something wrong with you to me.
Until you learn to respect your enemy you will always suck at war.
I don't support you. Or anyone who demonstrates your attitudes. Anyone who simplisticly portrays his nations enemies as mass slaughterers of babies clearly has no understanding to the issues and no wish to understand the issues, only a desperate need to justify the slaughter his own people is carrying out.
You to me are as bad as the worst of them. My natural enemy. The enemy of all I hold sacred.
The reason they use suicide bombs to attack us, is that is the only successful method they have of returning fire. It is an asymetric response to overwhelming firepower. It was never going to be an honourable duel between two equals.
As far as I know the only school children that were suicide bombed was in Beslan. I don't think any of our troops have been fighting to save the Russians. In fact we have been training and arming their enemies. If you don't have the balls to face up to your own nations actions I don't recognise any honour in you at all.
Hiding among civilians, isn't hiding when you are one.
These are not armies we are fighting. They are civilians.
I know you think the only honourable thing for your enemies to do is identify themselves and line up in front of your tanks ready to die, but there is no honour in this. No honour in wasting your life to amuse your enemies at all.
Sacrificing your life in an atttempt to defend your principals and your loved ones is as high an act of honour as a man has to offer.
Oooops, Let me tell you about "oops" Let me tell you about these animals over there. I'll tell you about the animal who put a little girl on the side of the road and as we passed yelled "help my daughter, help my daughter" and when our medic dismounted and got close, detonated her killing them both. Let em tell you about my good friend who while leading his tank platoon across a bridge were blocked by a bunch of kids. When they stopped insurgents fired RPGs at the structure of the bridge raining shrapnel down on everyone severly wounding my friend and the loader and killing most of the kids. Let me tell you about my 4 friends killed when an IED manufactured in Iran ripped their vehicle to pieces. Or maybe about my friend who basically had the right side of his body blown off when their truck hit a mine. Unfortunately I have a lot more. Shit f*cks World peace. please you little ignorant punks. These people don't want world peace, they want to kill. That's all they want, that's all they know. They gladly use kids as bait just to kill one of us. They use the kids as spotters and just about anything else. Yeah you don't hear much about that little tid bit. I guess the enemy being an animal doesn't make good news. The networks like to portray victims for everything. Don't think for a second that they wouldn't happily plant this fight in your backyard if they could. Don't think for a second it still can't happen. You people better wake the f*ck up and realize whether you like it or not there is a war happening and you are on the hit list. Pray these savages never ever get their hands on a nuke ( a very, very real concern trust me) because it will end up destroying one of our cities American OR European, they give a F*ck who's whichever is easier.
And we gladly use their kids as human shields, carry sweets and chocolates to attract them to us. Set up fire positions in schools send military units into civilian populated areas.
Ask yourself this, how many of those kids would still be alive if your tank platoon never left the U.S.?
Would they really invade the U.S. given the opportunity? Have they ever tried this?
I don't think we should rule it out, but the enemies we are currently fighting have never made any attempt to do so or showed any sign of ever building up to it. Should they ever do so, you would soon see your own children adopting the same roles. People don't sacrifice their children lightly. They do not endanger them if they can avoid it. I'm sure our enemies would all prefer to have no war at home and instead have their armies rampaging through our homelands while their families were all tucked up safe in bed 4,000 miles away too.
We didn't give them that choice. The ability to make that decision for themselves has been removed from them by us.
And I agree, we should do whatever it takes to prevent them nuking our cities. I can do savage. The news portrays our enemies as victims. It's not a difficult portrayal to make. That is what they are. Our victims. May it always be so and not the other way round.
I'm proud to come from a nation with the balls to make victims out of our enemies, but I'm still human enough to feel regret, remorse and guilt. This is the price of the good life in my country I hold so dear.
when i was over there the 1st time we went to save kuwait , i wnt to a lecture given by someone sympathetic to Americans , he was Saudi if that matters to you guys. He ( im going to paraphrase here i dont remember exact words) told us : The real issue facing alot of the fanatics is that they were told by their religion , their faith, that they were the masters of the earth , that their culture would outshine every other , as proof that they were the chosen people of earth. When the rest of the world switched from Religion to Commerce as a basis of government and growth they didnt , they stuck to the promise of god and his plan for them. But the world passed them by , when modern communications brought that fact to even the most remote areas of some places. There was resentment , how could ALL of the world disobeyed the word of god? How could his plan have gone so wrong? How could they NOT be the culture all others want to be like? How could anyone not following the plan laid forth by god have a better mortal life? The answer was simple , they traded their soul for property , money , wine, women , song.The answer was simple , Satan. The consulsion was that to bypass the faithful they had to have help from an enemy of god. Man can not over come the plans of god alone was a reason. It was very interesting stuff , i wish i could rememebr how it was spoken to us literally as im sure it would make alot more sense . But the underlying reason seemed ( from my point of view at the time) to come down to ... The rest of the world didnt fall in line and let them become the masters of humanity and for that sin we must all pay. Eh , if this offended anyone im sorry , ii was just trying to point out something i found interesting way back in the 90's. it sort of stuck with me and if i could say it the way it was presented im sure it would make more sense and be much more believeable.
It seems to me that we are told the exact same thing about our own cultures. The glory of democracy, the absolute superirority of the American way of life (or British in my case). The moral high ground. The benefits of living our way. That God is on our side. We are willing to kill people who disagree with the beliefs our societies hold sacred. Muslims aren't the only dangerous fanatics in this equation. Our fanatics are the most dangerous.
Idealists kill for ideas alone.
Muslim, Capitalist, Communist, Christian, Democratic. It's all the same to me. A fanatic is a fanatic.
I draw no moral distinction between faction.
As soon as you attempt to impose your idealogy on others by force you become a Facist and if you bring that shit near me I am inclined to kill you.
One of the more poignant moments of recent history was George Bush seniors trip to the Middle East.
When he spoke at a conference of all the nations who had previously joined with his in a coalition to liberate Kuwait (including Syria), they reduced him to tears when they spoke about his son. Likeable chaps the Bushes. A pity for them how things all turned out.
The brothers of the ones that died will be the future terrorists.
I'm disgusted by this statement. Seriously, QQ
These... these... abominations don't mind dying in the slightest, remember they are highly rewarded by Allah. These are the same people that strap on bombs and kill tens or hundreds of children in schools. The 'ones that died', had a mission of death for themselves and others. Their 'brothers' are most likely (100%) terrorists themselves by the way. If they think about becoming a terrorist because their brother died, which was his mission, well that is darwin law right there.
I guess they feel people like you are worth dying to fight. When I read your post, I naturally found myself on the side of the suicide bombers who kill tens or hundreds of children in schools.
I suspect that people who are willing to give their own lives to fight their enemies have thought a lot harder about that sacrifice than you clearly have.
1) RISKING your life fighting and outright suicidal behavior are two COMPLETELY different things. I have INFINATELY more respect for someone who put their life on the line but will fight to do it again later (read OUR military) then someone who assumes there is nothing they can do after this, so they go kill themselves in the name of whatever they are doing this for (read the suicide bombers). ALL reasons behind it aside (and "collateral damage" you know... like the SCHOOL FULL OF FREAKING KIDS) that alone puts them as pathetic. Period.
2) HIDING among civilians is equally pathetic. Honor does not exist... call my judgemental, but that is all they show me.
3) How the HELL do you support even for a SECOND, the suiciders at this point? Seriously, that suggests something wrong with you to me.
Until you learn to respect your enemy you will always suck at war.
Respect? Or be aware? You can hold someone in contempt, yet be aware of what they are capable of. Basically, its just holding back your personal judgement when figuring out how they will behave... kinda like a commentary track you can turn on and off.
I don't support you. Or anyone who demonstrates your attitudes. Anyone who simplisticly portrays his nations enemies as mass slaughterers of babies clearly has no understanding to the issues and no wish to understand the issues, only a desperate need to justify the slaughter his own people is carrying out.
Then show me an enemy who is willing to have some level of honor. Show me an enemy who will declair themselves combatants and not civilians. Show me an enemy who understands life is worth something and doesnt convince it's combatants to just throw theirs out entirely. SHOW ME SOMEONE WHO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND STOOD FOR AND NOT JUST A BLAST MARK NEAR SOME BODIES HE TOOK WITH HIM.
You to me are as bad as the worst of them. My natural enemy. The enemy of all I hold sacred.
Tell you what... if I ever decide to throw my life away rediculously, Ill let you know. In the meantime, you just lost all respect. Concider this my last reply to you that isnt just mocking you.
The reason they use suicide bombs to attack us, is that is the only successful method they have of returning fire. It is an asymetric response to overwhelming firepower. It was never going to be an honourable duel between two equals.
You're right... if we dont need to GO KILL OURSELVES, we are clearly better in that way too. You really just made them look pathetic and less deserving of respect.
As far as I know the only school children that were suicide bombed was in Beslan.
Any are too many. You fail.
I don't think any of our troops have been fighting to save the Russians. In fact we have been training and arming their enemies. If you don't have the balls to face up to your own nations actions I don't recognise any honour in you at all.
1) MY honor is not what is in question.
2) You're right... Russia and the US dont really get along... probably wont for a long while, actually. BUT does our training mean suicide bombers? No? Didnt think so.
Hiding among civilians, isn't hiding when you are one.
Are attacking military units as civilians? THIS is why they are combatants! And if you are combatants who's bases of opporations are major places for civilians to go about their lives, YOU ARE HIDING AMONG THEM. Period.
These are not armies we are fighting. They are civilians.
I know you think the only honourable thing for your enemies to do is identify themselves and line up in front of your tanks ready to die, but there is no honour in this. No honour in wasting your life to amuse your enemies at all.
Never claimed there was... in fact if you listened to me (you know, besides the fact that I dont want our troops blown up... and I hope to everything upstairs you dont either) my point was that is EXACTLY what suicide bombing is! So you want to agree, but disagree... and... no... no you just dont make sense.
Sacrificing your life in an atttempt to defend your principals and your loved ones is as high an act of honour as a man has to offer.
What loved ones are you defending by dying yourself? What principals live on because you not just are willing to lay down your life, but actively seek to end it? I dont think they are right on that either, but on a pure practical level, how can you defend this behavior? How?
You know what? Dont answer... you cant without stooping lower.
Oooops, Let me tell you about "oops" Let me tell you about these animals over there. I'll tell you about the animal who put a little girl on the side of the road and as we passed yelled "help my daughter, help my daughter" and when our medic dismounted and got close, detonated her killing them both. Let em tell you about my good friend who while leading his tank platoon across a bridge were blocked by a bunch of kids. When they stopped insurgents fired RPGs at the structure of the bridge raining shrapnel down on everyone severly wounding my friend and the loader and killing most of the kids. Let me tell you about my 4 friends killed when an IED manufactured in Iran ripped their vehicle to pieces. Or maybe about my friend who basically had the right side of his body blown off when their truck hit a mine. Unfortunately I have a lot more. Shit f*cks World peace. please you little ignorant punks. These people don't want world peace, they want to kill. That's all they want, that's all they know. They gladly use kids as bait just to kill one of us. They use the kids as spotters and just about anything else. Yeah you don't hear much about that little tid bit. I guess the enemy being an animal doesn't make good news. The networks like to portray victims for everything. Don't think for a second that they wouldn't happily plant this fight in your backyard if they could. Don't think for a second it still can't happen. You people better wake the f*ck up and realize whether you like it or not there is a war happening and you are on the hit list. Pray these savages never ever get their hands on a nuke ( a very, very real concern trust me) because it will end up destroying one of our cities American OR European, they give a F*ck who's whichever is easier.
And we gladly use their kids as human shields, carry sweets and chocolates to attract them to us. Set up fire positions in schools send military units into civilian populated areas.
Ask yourself this, how many of those kids would still be alive if your tank platoon never left the U.S.?
Would they really invade the U.S. given the opportunity? Have they ever tried this?
I don't think we should rule it out, but the enemies we are currently fighting have never made any attempt to do so or showed any sign of ever building up to it. Should they ever do so, you would soon see your own children adopting the same roles. People don't sacrifice their children lightly. They do not endanger them if they can avoid it. I'm sure our enemies would all prefer to have no war at home and instead have their armies rampaging through our homelands while their families were all tucked up safe in bed 4,000 miles away too.
We didn't give them that choice. The ability to make that decision for themselves has been removed from them by us.
And I agree, we should do whatever it takes to prevent them nuking our cities. I can do savage. The news portrays our enemies as victims. It's not a difficult portrayal to make. That is what they are. Our victims. May it always be so and not the other way round.
I'm proud to come from a nation with the balls to make victims out of our enemies, but I'm still human enough to feel regret, remorse and guilt. This is the price of the good life in my country I hold so dear.
You clearly do not understand. We can continue in PM. My friends and soldiers sacrifice are not for display to be mocked and disrespected.
when i was over there the 1st time we went to save kuwait , i wnt to a lecture given by someone sympathetic to Americans , he was Saudi if that matters to you guys. He ( im going to paraphrase here i dont remember exact words) told us : The real issue facing alot of the fanatics is that they were told by their religion , their faith, that they were the masters of the earth , that their culture would outshine every other , as proof that they were the chosen people of earth. When the rest of the world switched from Religion to Commerce as a basis of government and growth they didnt , they stuck to the promise of god and his plan for them. But the world passed them by , when modern communications brought that fact to even the most remote areas of some places. There was resentment , how could ALL of the world disobeyed the word of god? How could his plan have gone so wrong? How could they NOT be the culture all others want to be like? How could anyone not following the plan laid forth by god have a better mortal life? The answer was simple , they traded their soul for property , money , wine, women , song.The answer was simple , Satan. The consulsion was that to bypass the faithful they had to have help from an enemy of god. Man can not over come the plans of god alone was a reason. It was very interesting stuff , i wish i could rememebr how it was spoken to us literally as im sure it would make alot more sense . But the underlying reason seemed ( from my point of view at the time) to come down to ... The rest of the world didnt fall in line and let them become the masters of humanity and for that sin we must all pay. Eh , if this offended anyone im sorry , ii was just trying to point out something i found interesting way back in the 90's. it sort of stuck with me and if i could say it the way it was presented im sure it would make more sense and be much more believeable.
It seems to me that we are told the exact same thing about our own cultures. The glory of democracy, the absolute superirority of the American way of life (or British in my case). The moral high ground. The benefits of living our way. That God is on our side. We are willing to kill people who disagree with the beliefs our societies hold sacred. Muslims aren't the only dangerous fanatics in this equation. Our fanatics are the most dangerous.
Idealists kill for ideas alone.
Muslim, Capitalist, Communist, Christian, Democratic. It's all the same to me. A fanatic is a fanatic.
I draw no moral distinction between faction.
As soon as you attempt to impose your idealogy on others by force you become a Facist and if you bring that shit near me I am inclined to kill you.
One of the more poignant moments of recent history was George Bush seniors trip to the Middle East.
When he spoke at a conference of all the nations who had previously joined with his in a coalition to liberate Kuwait (including Syria), they reduced him to tears when they spoke about his son. Likeable chaps the Bushes. A pity for them how things all turned out.
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I'm disgusted by this statement. Seriously, QQ
These... these... abominations don't mind dying in the slightest, remember they are highly rewarded by Allah. These are the same people that strap on bombs and kill tens or hundreds of children in schools. The 'ones that died', had a mission of death for themselves and others. Their 'brothers' are most likely (100%) terrorists themselves by the way. If they think about becoming a terrorist because their brother died, which was his mission, well that is darwin law right there.
I guess they feel people like you are worth dying to fight. When I read your post, I naturally found myself on the side of the suicide bombers who kill tens or hundreds of children in schools.
I suspect that people who are willing to give their own lives to fight their enemies have thought a lot harder about that sacrifice than you clearly have.
1) RISKING your life fighting and outright suicidal behavior are two COMPLETELY different things. I have INFINATELY more respect for someone who put their life on the line but will fight to do it again later (read OUR military) then someone who assumes there is nothing they can do after this, so they go kill themselves in the name of whatever they are doing this for (read the suicide bombers). ALL reasons behind it aside (and "collateral damage" you know... like the SCHOOL FULL OF FREAKING KIDS) that alone puts them as pathetic. Period.
2) HIDING among civilians is equally pathetic. Honor does not exist... call my judgemental, but that is all they show me.
3) How the HELL do you support even for a SECOND, the suiciders at this point? Seriously, that suggests something wrong with you to me.
Until you learn to respect your enemy you will always suck at war.
I don't support you. Or anyone who demonstrates your attitudes. Anyone who simplisticly portrays his nations enemies as mass slaughterers of babies clearly has no understanding to the issues and no wish to understand the issues, only a desperate need to justify the slaughter his own people is carrying out.
You to me are as bad as the worst of them. My natural enemy. The enemy of all I hold sacred.
The reason they use suicide bombs to attack us, is that is the only successful method they have of returning fire. It is an asymetric response to overwhelming firepower. It was never going to be an honourable duel between two equals.
As far as I know the only school children that were suicide bombed was in Beslan. I don't think any of our troops have been fighting to save the Russians. In fact we have been training and arming their enemies. If you don't have the balls to face up to your own nations actions I don't recognise any honour in you at all.
Hiding among civilians, isn't hiding when you are one.
These are not armies we are fighting. They are civilians.
I know you think the only honourable thing for your enemies to do is identify themselves and line up in front of your tanks ready to die, but there is no honour in this. No honour in wasting your life to amuse your enemies at all.
Sacrificing your life in an atttempt to defend your principals and your loved ones is as high an act of honour as a man has to offer.
And we gladly use their kids as human shields, carry sweets and chocolates to attract them to us. Set up fire positions in schools send military units into civilian populated areas.
Ask yourself this, how many of those kids would still be alive if your tank platoon never left the U.S.?
Would they really invade the U.S. given the opportunity? Have they ever tried this?
I don't think we should rule it out, but the enemies we are currently fighting have never made any attempt to do so or showed any sign of ever building up to it. Should they ever do so, you would soon see your own children adopting the same roles. People don't sacrifice their children lightly. They do not endanger them if they can avoid it. I'm sure our enemies would all prefer to have no war at home and instead have their armies rampaging through our homelands while their families were all tucked up safe in bed 4,000 miles away too.
We didn't give them that choice. The ability to make that decision for themselves has been removed from them by us.
And I agree, we should do whatever it takes to prevent them nuking our cities. I can do savage. The news portrays our enemies as victims. It's not a difficult portrayal to make. That is what they are. Our victims. May it always be so and not the other way round.
I'm proud to come from a nation with the balls to make victims out of our enemies, but I'm still human enough to feel regret, remorse and guilt. This is the price of the good life in my country I hold so dear.
It seems to me that we are told the exact same thing about our own cultures. The glory of democracy, the absolute superirority of the American way of life (or British in my case). The moral high ground. The benefits of living our way. That God is on our side. We are willing to kill people who disagree with the beliefs our societies hold sacred. Muslims aren't the only dangerous fanatics in this equation. Our fanatics are the most dangerous.
Idealists kill for ideas alone.
Muslim, Capitalist, Communist, Christian, Democratic. It's all the same to me. A fanatic is a fanatic.
I draw no moral distinction between faction.
As soon as you attempt to impose your idealogy on others by force you become a Facist and if you bring that shit near me I am inclined to kill you.
One of the more poignant moments of recent history was George Bush seniors trip to the Middle East.
When he spoke at a conference of all the nations who had previously joined with his in a coalition to liberate Kuwait (including Syria), they reduced him to tears when they spoke about his son. Likeable chaps the Bushes. A pity for them how things all turned out.
I'm disgusted by this statement. Seriously, QQ
These... these... abominations don't mind dying in the slightest, remember they are highly rewarded by Allah. These are the same people that strap on bombs and kill tens or hundreds of children in schools. The 'ones that died', had a mission of death for themselves and others. Their 'brothers' are most likely (100%) terrorists themselves by the way. If they think about becoming a terrorist because their brother died, which was his mission, well that is darwin law right there.
I guess they feel people like you are worth dying to fight. When I read your post, I naturally found myself on the side of the suicide bombers who kill tens or hundreds of children in schools.
I suspect that people who are willing to give their own lives to fight their enemies have thought a lot harder about that sacrifice than you clearly have.
1) RISKING your life fighting and outright suicidal behavior are two COMPLETELY different things. I have INFINATELY more respect for someone who put their life on the line but will fight to do it again later (read OUR military) then someone who assumes there is nothing they can do after this, so they go kill themselves in the name of whatever they are doing this for (read the suicide bombers). ALL reasons behind it aside (and "collateral damage" you know... like the SCHOOL FULL OF FREAKING KIDS) that alone puts them as pathetic. Period.
2) HIDING among civilians is equally pathetic. Honor does not exist... call my judgemental, but that is all they show me.
3) How the HELL do you support even for a SECOND, the suiciders at this point? Seriously, that suggests something wrong with you to me.
Until you learn to respect your enemy you will always suck at war.
Respect? Or be aware? You can hold someone in contempt, yet be aware of what they are capable of. Basically, its just holding back your personal judgement when figuring out how they will behave... kinda like a commentary track you can turn on and off.
I don't support you. Or anyone who demonstrates your attitudes. Anyone who simplisticly portrays his nations enemies as mass slaughterers of babies clearly has no understanding to the issues and no wish to understand the issues, only a desperate need to justify the slaughter his own people is carrying out.
Then show me an enemy who is willing to have some level of honor. Show me an enemy who will declair themselves combatants and not civilians. Show me an enemy who understands life is worth something and doesnt convince it's combatants to just throw theirs out entirely. SHOW ME SOMEONE WHO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND STOOD FOR AND NOT JUST A BLAST MARK NEAR SOME BODIES HE TOOK WITH HIM.
You to me are as bad as the worst of them. My natural enemy. The enemy of all I hold sacred.
Tell you what... if I ever decide to throw my life away rediculously, Ill let you know. In the meantime, you just lost all respect. Concider this my last reply to you that isnt just mocking you.
The reason they use suicide bombs to attack us, is that is the only successful method they have of returning fire. It is an asymetric response to overwhelming firepower. It was never going to be an honourable duel between two equals.
You're right... if we dont need to GO KILL OURSELVES, we are clearly better in that way too. You really just made them look pathetic and less deserving of respect.
As far as I know the only school children that were suicide bombed was in Beslan.
Any are too many. You fail.
I don't think any of our troops have been fighting to save the Russians. In fact we have been training and arming their enemies. If you don't have the balls to face up to your own nations actions I don't recognise any honour in you at all.
1) MY honor is not what is in question.
2) You're right... Russia and the US dont really get along... probably wont for a long while, actually. BUT does our training mean suicide bombers? No? Didnt think so.
Hiding among civilians, isn't hiding when you are one.
Are attacking military units as civilians? THIS is why they are combatants! And if you are combatants who's bases of opporations are major places for civilians to go about their lives, YOU ARE HIDING AMONG THEM. Period.
These are not armies we are fighting. They are civilians.
I know you think the only honourable thing for your enemies to do is identify themselves and line up in front of your tanks ready to die, but there is no honour in this. No honour in wasting your life to amuse your enemies at all.
Never claimed there was... in fact if you listened to me (you know, besides the fact that I dont want our troops blown up... and I hope to everything upstairs you dont either) my point was that is EXACTLY what suicide bombing is! So you want to agree, but disagree... and... no... no you just dont make sense.
Sacrificing your life in an atttempt to defend your principals and your loved ones is as high an act of honour as a man has to offer.
What loved ones are you defending by dying yourself? What principals live on because you not just are willing to lay down your life, but actively seek to end it? I dont think they are right on that either, but on a pure practical level, how can you defend this behavior? How?
You know what? Dont answer... you cant without stooping lower.
And we gladly use their kids as human shields, carry sweets and chocolates to attract them to us. Set up fire positions in schools send military units into civilian populated areas.
Ask yourself this, how many of those kids would still be alive if your tank platoon never left the U.S.?
Would they really invade the U.S. given the opportunity? Have they ever tried this?
I don't think we should rule it out, but the enemies we are currently fighting have never made any attempt to do so or showed any sign of ever building up to it. Should they ever do so, you would soon see your own children adopting the same roles. People don't sacrifice their children lightly. They do not endanger them if they can avoid it. I'm sure our enemies would all prefer to have no war at home and instead have their armies rampaging through our homelands while their families were all tucked up safe in bed 4,000 miles away too.
We didn't give them that choice. The ability to make that decision for themselves has been removed from them by us.
And I agree, we should do whatever it takes to prevent them nuking our cities. I can do savage. The news portrays our enemies as victims. It's not a difficult portrayal to make. That is what they are. Our victims. May it always be so and not the other way round.
I'm proud to come from a nation with the balls to make victims out of our enemies, but I'm still human enough to feel regret, remorse and guilt. This is the price of the good life in my country I hold so dear.
You clearly do not understand. We can continue in PM. My friends and soldiers sacrifice are not for display to be mocked and disrespected.
It seems to me that we are told the exact same thing about our own cultures. The glory of democracy, the absolute superirority of the American way of life (or British in my case). The moral high ground. The benefits of living our way. That God is on our side. We are willing to kill people who disagree with the beliefs our societies hold sacred. Muslims aren't the only dangerous fanatics in this equation. Our fanatics are the most dangerous.
Idealists kill for ideas alone.
Muslim, Capitalist, Communist, Christian, Democratic. It's all the same to me. A fanatic is a fanatic.
I draw no moral distinction between faction.
As soon as you attempt to impose your idealogy on others by force you become a Facist and if you bring that shit near me I am inclined to kill you.
One of the more poignant moments of recent history was George Bush seniors trip to the Middle East.
When he spoke at a conference of all the nations who had previously joined with his in a coalition to liberate Kuwait (including Syria), they reduced him to tears when they spoke about his son. Likeable chaps the Bushes. A pity for them how things all turned out.
"I draw no moral distinction between faction."
This is why you fail.