Love the part about it being hard to test because there is no linear progression and the players can go so many ways. OMFG I am excited about that. I literally quit WAR after 5 days because of the handholding in the quests.
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
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I expect better insults from a 35 year old man. Thank you for lending creedence to the "Age is no indication of maturity" argument. I however expect this to be a niche game at best, all the things that made WoW popular wont be a part of it.
And thank God for that!
Do you actually have an interest in this game? Or just like talking in random forums to hear yourself?
With the ever growing MMORPG market, nowadays a sandbox PvP niche is at least 300K which is not such a shabby number.
NO ONE of Darkfall fans said it will be the next big thing (although it would be for many of us)
It will do well, that's what people is saying.
The only people who thing Darkfall is aiming to bthe mass market are the haters, which create the rumor and then try to discredit it................................
It might garner larger numbers if they tried to sell it outside of the EU community. To my knowledge you wont see it on shelves here in the US.
Anyone got any quotes or links for me as to why?
Unless things have changed, they still don't have the patent rights for "Darkfall" in the U.S.
Every link I've seen posted before showed their applications denied, suspended, etc.
Love the part about it being hard to test because there is no linear progression and the players can go so many ways. OMFG I am excited about that. I literally quit WAR after 5 days because of the handholding in the quests.
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
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Part 2 of update is up forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php Sounds like things are going well. Enjoy the read. Dont bother if you feel "burned" by them because you will actually have to *gasp* trust someone in order to get anything out of the update. DF IS COMMING! CYA IN GAME!
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
Love the part about it being hard to test because there is no linear progression and the players can go so many ways. OMFG I am excited about that. I literally quit WAR after 5 days because of the handholding in the quests.
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
Explain Eve's success then??
EVE doesn't have FFA pvp with full looting.
Yes it does. You can attack anyone anywhere, concord might kill you but peopel suicide gank, so it is FFA, also, when you kill someone, anything not destroyed in the explosion u can loot, so it IS full loot
Aventurine alone don't have the economic power or knowledge to self-publish in US.
Luckily there is the internet, they will offer the game through digital download.
I know many would prefer having the box, but if people like DF in the end doesn't really matter. I live in UK (EU) but I ll buy the digital download, like I do for almost all my MMORPGs, I don't have a problem with it.
Lol I don't buy a MMORPG box since 1994.
What? Several of devs worked in publishing before they started developming DF, and they have said many times they are able to self publish if needed. But yeah i think they will do digital download distribution also.
I think if what you mean by "self-publish" is that they go d2d, I am with you. If you think they will be able to place boxes on the shelves, without partners like gamestop, bestbuy, wallmart (?), microcenter having a head's up, you are a little looney, just sayin.
Putting boxes on shelves costs a whole lot of money, and requires a vendors who know it's on the way...
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Part 2 of update is up forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php Sounds like things are going well. Enjoy the read. Dont bother if you feel "burned" by them because you will actually have to *gasp* trust someone in order to get anything out of the update. DF IS COMMING! CYA IN GAME!
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
I love when the hater trolls who dont get enough attention IRL come here to flame... and flame incorrectly.
Wow took almost 8 years actually.... yes it did. Also whats the time of the develelopment have to do with ANY of this??? Bottom line... no game is proven until its OUT.... even YOU should be able to comprehend
Part 2 of update is up forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php Sounds like things are going well. Enjoy the read. Dont bother if you feel "burned" by them because you will actually have to *gasp* trust someone in order to get anything out of the update. DF IS COMMING! CYA IN GAME!
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
Seems like High Priest Arken is on the Warpath again lol. Preaching to those that will listen and ateempting to chastise those that will not. Oddly enough Arken's cult is losing members now days so I can see why you have been on the War path as of late. I guess it's recruitment time lol. Hope there's a warning label on your koolaid Arken.
And to answer the question you replied to and avoided all together at the same time. No Arken did not say this about War. He is in fact a War fanboi and this is in his post history.
Anyways I figured you would still be here giving sermons to the wicked followers of DarkFall. Keep trying and maybe your message that we will all burn for eternity for enjoying the concept of a game and looking foward to it's release that you don't may sink in. It might help your cause if you stopped acting like a cult and quit trying to beat those that don't agree with you into submission.
As far as Aventurine being a small company with big promises and so far that being it you are correct. The problem is that is exactly it. The only problem you seem to have is that they are a small company. No promises have been broken, the game hasn't been launched buggy and unplayable ..... it hasn't cost you a penny yet lol. So trying to make Aventurine out to be the Anti Christ is a bit pre-mature don't you think?
Anyways we got a date for the next phase of beta, we have an end date for beta all together. I mean you of all people should be happy with the Nov 10th date considering that is what you complained about not to long ago. Having an end date but no start date right? Well now you have it, Nov 10th next phase, all phases over beggining of December. So I guess go consult yout cult and see what you guys can attack the fans with next.
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Originally posted by originalegg
Part 2 of update is up forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php Sounds like things are going well. Enjoy the read. Dont bother if you feel "burned" by them because you will actually have to *gasp* trust someone in order to get anything out of the update. DF IS COMMING! CYA IN GAME!
Love the part about it being hard to test because there is no linear progression and the players can go so many ways. OMFG I am excited about that. I literally quit WAR after 5 days because of the handholding in the quests.
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
Explain Eve's success then??
EVE doesn't have FFA pvp with full looting.
Yes it does. You can attack anyone anywhere, concord might kill you but peopel suicide gank, so it is FFA, also, when you kill someone, anything not destroyed in the explosion u can loot, so it IS full loot
well, there is insurance on ships in eve, and gear in eve is relatively easy to get. Anytime I got geeked in eve it never really cost me more than a couple hours of work to get the ship back (usually a lot less, since i did a lot of tackling)... It all comes down to loot acquisition and how much time will be lost in a gank in darkfall, IMHO. too much time lost and you will have a very small playerbase, because it's things like losing 20h of time that make people /deleteaccount. However to little time lost and pvp will feel meaningless. It's going to be a challenge to the developers to get the risk-reward just right.
I wonder if they won't get rid of the full loot rule before beta's out. Or set up servers with different rule sets.
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Lol thx for the update grayghost... you I thought I smelled War fanboy. No offense but thinking War is a great game means you have no credibility in your horrible taste. So go back to meaningless pvp, horrible graphics and UI, dead servers and skilless game Arcken... your not wanted here
Part 2 of update is up forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php Sounds like things are going well. Enjoy the read. Dont bother if you feel "burned" by them because you will actually have to *gasp* trust someone in order to get anything out of the update. DF IS COMMING! CYA IN GAME!
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
Seems like High Priest Arken is on the Warpath again lol. Preaching to those that will listen and ateempting to chastise those that will not. Oddly enough Arken's cult is losing members now days so I can see why you have been on the War path as of late. I guess it's recruitment time lol. Hope there's a warning label on your koolaid Arken.
And to answer the question you replied to and avoided all together at the same time. No Arken did not say this about War. He is in fact a War fanboi and this is in his post history.
Anyways I figured you would still be here giving sermons to the wicked followers of DarkFall. Keep trying and maybe your message that we will all burn for eternity for enjoying the concept of a game and looking foward to it's release that you don't may sink in. It might help your cause if you stopped acting like a cult and quit trying to beat those that don't agree with you into submission.
As far as Aventurine being a small company with big promises and so far that being it you are correct. The problem is that is exactly it. The only problem you seem to have is that they are a small company. No promises have been broken, the game hasn't been launched buggy and unplayable ..... it hasn't cost you a penny yet lol. So trying to make Aventurine out to be the Anti Christ is a bit pre-mature don't you think?
Anyways we got a date for the next phase of beta, we have an end date for beta all together. I mean you of all people should be happy with the Nov 10th date considering that is what you complained about not to long ago. Having an end date but no start date right? Well now you have it, Nov 10th next phase, all phases over beggining of December. So I guess go consult yout cult and see what you guys can attack the fans with next.
Did you just try to pull the old "I know you are but what am I" on me?
I pegged you and your partners as the church of Darkfall long ago. At least make up your own burns!
Though I still have you with my trademarked Froth&Foam Fanbois (TM)
lol Well call it what you will I merely call them like I see them. Your continous sermons seem to be the only ones I have seen on this forum. They all seem to say the same thing, repent from your evil DarkFall following ways lol. You call the fans a cult because they seem to enjoy the concepts behind a GAME and seem to want to play the GAME should it launch. You are the one running around preaching constantly "Don't let the Devil fool you, thou shalt not bite into the apple lest ye suffer eternal damnation". Your preaching about how Tasos is a silver tounged Devil and his lies and trickery is fooling us all. You preach how we are a cult because we won't jump up and scream hallaluah when you say DarkFall is Vaporware or Destined to fail. So.... Yeah I guess you can say I simply said I know you are but what am I, if thats what it takes for you to atleast remotely grasp what I have said then so be it.
Lol thx for the update grayghost... you I thought I smelled War fanboy. No offense but thinking War is a great game means you have no credibility in your horrible taste. So go back to meaningless pvp, horrible graphics and UI, dead servers and skilless game Arcken... your not wanted here
I don't mind Arcken here honestly because if you read his posts regarding DarkFall they make no sense. He claims that since Aventurine is a smaller company with less experience than others in the industry they can not deliver on there promises then he turns around and holds them at a higher standard than the rest of the industry. I mean the game he is a self proclaimed fan of is War which is fine if he likes it. But when he talks about DarkFall's "Missed Beta's" he fails to mention the fact that people paid money for War's beta through TTH premium accounts and still didn't even get into the beta which is the whole reason they paid for the premium accounts in the first place.
To him it is OK for War and other games to miss announced deadlines but not ok for DarkFall to miss a deadline they never said was concrete in the first place. He preaches and gives sermons on how horrible and wicked the DarkFall cult is yet he is the one preaching and giving the sermons.
All in all it just amazes me lol. War didn't even launch with everything they said would be in yet he has stated if DarkFall doesn't launch complete and bug free it will fail and Tasos is a liar yet his game of choice couldn't even do that and this is a company he seems to feel is better than Aventurine. What I really want to know is why he holds Aventruine at a much higher standard than the companies he deems as there better.
Lol thx for the update grayghost... you I thought I smelled War fanboy. No offense but thinking War is a great game means you have no credibility in your horrible taste. So go back to meaningless pvp, horrible graphics and UI, dead servers and skilless game Arcken... your not wanted here
I don't mind Arcken here honestly because if you read his posts regarding DarkFall they make no sense. He claims that since Aventurine is a smaller company with less experience than others in the industry they can not deliver on there promises then he turns around and holds them at a higher standard than the rest of the industry. I mean the game he is a self proclaimed fan of is War which is fine if he likes it. But when he talks about DarkFall's "Missed Beta's" he fails to mention the fact that people paid money for War's beta through TTH premium accounts and still didn't even get into the beta which is the whole reason they paid for the premium accounts in the first place.
To him it is OK for War and other games to miss announced deadlines but not ok for DarkFall to miss a deadline they never said was concrete in the first place. He preaches and gives sermons on how horrible and wicked the DarkFall cult is yet he is the one preaching and giving the sermons.
All in all it just amazes me lol. War didn't even launch with everything they said would be in yet he has stated if DarkFall doesn't launch complete and bug free it will fail and Tasos is a liar yet his game of choice couldn't even do that and this is a company he seems to feel is better than Aventurine. What I really want to know is why he holds Aventruine at a much higher standard than the companies he deems as there better.
I guess Arcken never heard of Eve. CCP is MUCH smaller then EA, Mythic, BLizzard etc, and yet Eve blows Wow and War away
I like this guy...I don't like how Darkfall's looking though...
And massive ganking doesn't sound like fun either
I can't wait any longer for a quality game......... ~runs to his 360~
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LOL they plan on "starting" to let in "a few people" on Nov 10'th.
And they don't even have all their features turned on or active to test yet.
And they actually think they can launch commercially this year with 1 month of testing?
Beyond hilarious.
One good thing is that it SEEMS as though there may actually be REAL people logging in very soon. And that's exactly when you can expect to find out if it's a POS or not.. because NDA's mean nothing and info WILL leak and leak fast.
But I gurantee you without a shadow of a doubt this thing will NEVER launch this year. If it does then it will be a bug ridden POS.
LOL they plan on "starting" to let in "a few people" on Nov 10'th. And they don't even have all their features turned on or active to test yet. And they actually think they can launch commercially this year with 1 month of testing?
Nice to see you are giving up on the whole lol vaporz arguement.
Part 2 of update is up forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php Sounds like things are going well. Enjoy the read. Dont bother if you feel "burned" by them because you will actually have to *gasp* trust someone in order to get anything out of the update. DF IS COMMING! CYA IN GAME!
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
Seems like High Priest Arken is on the Warpath again lol. Preaching to those that will listen and ateempting to chastise those that will not. Oddly enough Arken's cult is losing members now days so I can see why you have been on the War path as of late. I guess it's recruitment time lol. Hope there's a warning label on your koolaid Arken.
And to answer the question you replied to and avoided all together at the same time. No Arken did not say this about War. He is in fact a War fanboi and this is in his post history.
Anyways I figured you would still be here giving sermons to the wicked followers of DarkFall. Keep trying and maybe your message that we will all burn for eternity for enjoying the concept of a game and looking foward to it's release that you don't may sink in. It might help your cause if you stopped acting like a cult and quit trying to beat those that don't agree with you into submission.
As far as Aventurine being a small company with big promises and so far that being it you are correct. The problem is that is exactly it. The only problem you seem to have is that they are a small company. No promises have been broken, the game hasn't been launched buggy and unplayable ..... it hasn't cost you a penny yet lol. So trying to make Aventurine out to be the Anti Christ is a bit pre-mature don't you think?
Anyways we got a date for the next phase of beta, we have an end date for beta all together. I mean you of all people should be happy with the Nov 10th date considering that is what you complained about not to long ago. Having an end date but no start date right? Well now you have it, Nov 10th next phase, all phases over beggining of December. So I guess go consult yout cult and see what you guys can attack the fans with next.
POTD
Seriously though I have become more and more laid back about bothering with some of these guys. I wrote a lengthy post to arcken about why I wasnt going to respond to him anymore, and it has made reading these boards a lot easier. Basically I read a post from someone like that and when I think of the obvious explanation to why he is wrong, i just think....why bother? They arent here for a discussion, they are here to vent about whatever.
Best to just ignore them and make them think they are right. Doing my best to focus my time on these boards on the fans and the skeptics that actually make realistic arguements, and not hypocritical nonsense.
edit: and also realized how much traffic this site actually gets, and made me understand that if a few trolls make it their responsibility to preach the same gospel over and over about how DF is bad on this site then its not changing anything. MMORPG.com gets comparable traffic to the DF official boards if you look at the numbers. So let them preach, and then turn around and call us fanbois cult members for discussing a game we are excited for. Zomg what will they say next!
I wrote a lengthy post to arcken about why I wasnt going to respond to him anymore
This made me laugh. This is fucken golden.
ok?
edit: omg what is going on in your head...you edited your 1 line post 3 times?
once to add "this is ucken golden"
then to add "this is fucken golden AAA shit"
lol trust me your edits did not make it any better or worse....and what was your point exactly? there was a thread where arcken and i were going back and forth and eventually i said enough is enough and wrote him a post in the thread explaining why i was just not going to bother anymore.
make a new thread about how DF is lolzbad...at least you are good at that.
But I gurantee you without a shadow of a doubt this thing will NEVER launch this year. If it does then it will be a bug ridden POS.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt? Looks as if your second sentence there proves that you're an idiot. Also, the fact that you actually posted the word ucken, instead of "fucking"...That's classically pointless.
And OriginalEgg, so glad to see you again...It has truly been a while
ucken AAA!
So yeah...I've decided that unless the rabid dolts, who decide to liberate us from the clutches of what can only be a failed attempt at another "WoW', are destroying a quality thread, I won't reply to them. I'm tried of even typing responses to people like this mindless idiot...Really, what point is there in his "argument"? None...Not a single one.
I'm no fan-boy of Darkfall, even I hate(d) what was going on with Adventurine a few months back. But even I realize this game has potential now that they're not pulling our leg. It also looks as if they never were, which actually makes me feel even better about things.
------------------------------- It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off. ------------------------------- Originally posted by atziluth... Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
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Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
Explain Eve's success then??
EVE doesn't have FFA pvp with full looting.
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Do you actually have an interest in this game? Or just like talking in random forums to hear yourself?
It might garner larger numbers if they tried to sell it outside of the EU community. To my knowledge you wont see it on shelves here in the US.
Anyone got any quotes or links for me as to why?
Unless things have changed, they still don't have the patent rights for "Darkfall" in the U.S.
Every link I've seen posted before showed their applications denied, suspended, etc.
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
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Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
Explain Eve's success then??
EVE doesn't have FFA pvp with full looting.
Yes it does. You can attack anyone anywhere, concord might kill you but peopel suicide gank, so it is FFA, also, when you kill someone, anything not destroyed in the explosion u can loot, so it IS full loot
What? Several of devs worked in publishing before they started developming DF, and they have said many times they are able to self publish if needed. But yeah i think they will do digital download distribution also.
I think if what you mean by "self-publish" is that they go d2d, I am with you. If you think they will be able to place boxes on the shelves, without partners like gamestop, bestbuy, wallmart (?), microcenter having a head's up, you are a little looney, just sayin.
Putting boxes on shelves costs a whole lot of money, and requires a vendors who know it's on the way...
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Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
I love when the hater trolls who dont get enough attention IRL come here to flame... and flame incorrectly.
Wow took almost 8 years actually.... yes it did. Also whats the time of the develelopment have to do with ANY of this??? Bottom line... no game is proven until its OUT.... even YOU should be able to comprehend
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
Seems like High Priest Arken is on the Warpath again lol. Preaching to those that will listen and ateempting to chastise those that will not. Oddly enough Arken's cult is losing members now days so I can see why you have been on the War path as of late. I guess it's recruitment time lol. Hope there's a warning label on your koolaid Arken.
And to answer the question you replied to and avoided all together at the same time. No Arken did not say this about War. He is in fact a War fanboi and this is in his post history.
Anyways I figured you would still be here giving sermons to the wicked followers of DarkFall. Keep trying and maybe your message that we will all burn for eternity for enjoying the concept of a game and looking foward to it's release that you don't may sink in. It might help your cause if you stopped acting like a cult and quit trying to beat those that don't agree with you into submission.
As far as Aventurine being a small company with big promises and so far that being it you are correct. The problem is that is exactly it. The only problem you seem to have is that they are a small company. No promises have been broken, the game hasn't been launched buggy and unplayable ..... it hasn't cost you a penny yet lol. So trying to make Aventurine out to be the Anti Christ is a bit pre-mature don't you think?
Anyways we got a date for the next phase of beta, we have an end date for beta all together. I mean you of all people should be happy with the Nov 10th date considering that is what you complained about not to long ago. Having an end date but no start date right? Well now you have it, Nov 10th next phase, all phases over beggining of December. So I guess go consult yout cult and see what you guys can attack the fans with next.
Thank you for the update
Darkfall will blow your mind and NO HANDHOLDING:p
90 percent of the people out there will curl up into the fetal position and hit cancel.
After all the years of WoWesque spoon feeding, I doubt most players will do anything but meltdown the first time they get ganked and all their gear taken from them.
Solo players, you will have no home here, youll get manhandled by guilds that roll with lots of numbers.
Thats how it works in FFA pvp, go take a look at shadowbane, perfect example, very little room for the solo players, you are just fodder for the people who are smarter and rove in groups.
I expect most of these "fans" will quit sooner than later, provided it actually releases in some playable form.
Explain Eve's success then??
EVE doesn't have FFA pvp with full looting.
Yes it does. You can attack anyone anywhere, concord might kill you but peopel suicide gank, so it is FFA, also, when you kill someone, anything not destroyed in the explosion u can loot, so it IS full loot
well, there is insurance on ships in eve, and gear in eve is relatively easy to get. Anytime I got geeked in eve it never really cost me more than a couple hours of work to get the ship back (usually a lot less, since i did a lot of tackling)... It all comes down to loot acquisition and how much time will be lost in a gank in darkfall, IMHO. too much time lost and you will have a very small playerbase, because it's things like losing 20h of time that make people /deleteaccount. However to little time lost and pvp will feel meaningless. It's going to be a challenge to the developers to get the risk-reward just right.
I wonder if they won't get rid of the full loot rule before beta's out. Or set up servers with different rule sets.
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Well, I will say I am cautiously optimistic.
Go DF?
Lol thx for the update grayghost... you I thought I smelled War fanboy. No offense but thinking War is a great game means you have no credibility in your horrible taste. So go back to meaningless pvp, horrible graphics and UI, dead servers and skilless game Arcken... your not wanted here
Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
Seems like High Priest Arken is on the Warpath again lol. Preaching to those that will listen and ateempting to chastise those that will not. Oddly enough Arken's cult is losing members now days so I can see why you have been on the War path as of late. I guess it's recruitment time lol. Hope there's a warning label on your koolaid Arken.
And to answer the question you replied to and avoided all together at the same time. No Arken did not say this about War. He is in fact a War fanboi and this is in his post history.
Anyways I figured you would still be here giving sermons to the wicked followers of DarkFall. Keep trying and maybe your message that we will all burn for eternity for enjoying the concept of a game and looking foward to it's release that you don't may sink in. It might help your cause if you stopped acting like a cult and quit trying to beat those that don't agree with you into submission.
As far as Aventurine being a small company with big promises and so far that being it you are correct. The problem is that is exactly it. The only problem you seem to have is that they are a small company. No promises have been broken, the game hasn't been launched buggy and unplayable ..... it hasn't cost you a penny yet lol. So trying to make Aventurine out to be the Anti Christ is a bit pre-mature don't you think?
Anyways we got a date for the next phase of beta, we have an end date for beta all together. I mean you of all people should be happy with the Nov 10th date considering that is what you complained about not to long ago. Having an end date but no start date right? Well now you have it, Nov 10th next phase, all phases over beggining of December. So I guess go consult yout cult and see what you guys can attack the fans with next.
Did you just try to pull the old "I know you are but what am I" on me?
I pegged you and your partners as the church of Darkfall long ago. At least make up your own burns!
Though I still have you with my trademarked Froth&Foam Fanbois (TM)
lol Well call it what you will I merely call them like I see them. Your continous sermons seem to be the only ones I have seen on this forum. They all seem to say the same thing, repent from your evil DarkFall following ways lol. You call the fans a cult because they seem to enjoy the concepts behind a GAME and seem to want to play the GAME should it launch. You are the one running around preaching constantly "Don't let the Devil fool you, thou shalt not bite into the apple lest ye suffer eternal damnation". Your preaching about how Tasos is a silver tounged Devil and his lies and trickery is fooling us all. You preach how we are a cult because we won't jump up and scream hallaluah when you say DarkFall is Vaporware or Destined to fail. So.... Yeah I guess you can say I simply said I know you are but what am I, if thats what it takes for you to atleast remotely grasp what I have said then so be it.
I don't mind Arcken here honestly because if you read his posts regarding DarkFall they make no sense. He claims that since Aventurine is a smaller company with less experience than others in the industry they can not deliver on there promises then he turns around and holds them at a higher standard than the rest of the industry. I mean the game he is a self proclaimed fan of is War which is fine if he likes it. But when he talks about DarkFall's "Missed Beta's" he fails to mention the fact that people paid money for War's beta through TTH premium accounts and still didn't even get into the beta which is the whole reason they paid for the premium accounts in the first place.
To him it is OK for War and other games to miss announced deadlines but not ok for DarkFall to miss a deadline they never said was concrete in the first place. He preaches and gives sermons on how horrible and wicked the DarkFall cult is yet he is the one preaching and giving the sermons.
All in all it just amazes me lol. War didn't even launch with everything they said would be in yet he has stated if DarkFall doesn't launch complete and bug free it will fail and Tasos is a liar yet his game of choice couldn't even do that and this is a company he seems to feel is better than Aventurine. What I really want to know is why he holds Aventruine at a much higher standard than the companies he deems as there better.
I don't mind Arcken here honestly because if you read his posts regarding DarkFall they make no sense. He claims that since Aventurine is a smaller company with less experience than others in the industry they can not deliver on there promises then he turns around and holds them at a higher standard than the rest of the industry. I mean the game he is a self proclaimed fan of is War which is fine if he likes it. But when he talks about DarkFall's "Missed Beta's" he fails to mention the fact that people paid money for War's beta through TTH premium accounts and still didn't even get into the beta which is the whole reason they paid for the premium accounts in the first place.
To him it is OK for War and other games to miss announced deadlines but not ok for DarkFall to miss a deadline they never said was concrete in the first place. He preaches and gives sermons on how horrible and wicked the DarkFall cult is yet he is the one preaching and giving the sermons.
All in all it just amazes me lol. War didn't even launch with everything they said would be in yet he has stated if DarkFall doesn't launch complete and bug free it will fail and Tasos is a liar yet his game of choice couldn't even do that and this is a company he seems to feel is better than Aventurine. What I really want to know is why he holds Aventruine at a much higher standard than the companies he deems as there better.
I guess Arcken never heard of Eve. CCP is MUCH smaller then EA, Mythic, BLizzard etc, and yet Eve blows Wow and War away
I like this guy...I don't like how Darkfall's looking though...
And massive ganking doesn't sound like fun either
I can't wait any longer for a quality game......... ~runs to his 360~
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Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
LOL they plan on "starting" to let in "a few people" on Nov 10'th.
And they don't even have all their features turned on or active to test yet.
And they actually think they can launch commercially this year with 1 month of testing?
Beyond hilarious.
One good thing is that it SEEMS as though there may actually be REAL people logging in very soon. And that's exactly when you can expect to find out if it's a POS or not.. because NDA's mean nothing and info WILL leak and leak fast.
But I gurantee you without a shadow of a doubt this thing will NEVER launch this year. If it does then it will be a bug ridden POS.
Nice to see you are giving up on the whole lol vaporz arguement.
You are growing up so fast
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Sounds like things are going well.
Call me when you have definitive proof.
Check out the Darkfall forum for your proof... nuff said
Something similar has been posted a few times in years passed. I don't think people who don't have much hope in DF's release will not believe anything until it is actually released.
Also, I'm not too sure about their ability to self publish because they said one of their main reasons for not releasing yet is they could not find a publisher and had no way to publish. They have kind of been contradicting themselves through the years.
You can't blame people for doubting darkfall's release. I doubt it from false promises throughout the years, but I still hope it does release, lol.
It's proof of the promise of the game being released, not of the game being realized.. there is no way to prove ANY game being released before it's released. I just wonder if Arcken sat there and said PROVE IT for WOW and WAR
I love it when the frothmouth fan boys ie the Holy Priests of Tasos start pulling together in a mob format, you guys make me laugh.
And WoW and War didnt take 8 years to develop, infer a beta or release multiple times, I didnt have to question those games, they were being put out there by well known companies.
Aventurine on the other hand, small company, big promises, and so far, thats it.
Froth on High Priests of Tasos.
Seems like High Priest Arken is on the Warpath again lol. Preaching to those that will listen and ateempting to chastise those that will not. Oddly enough Arken's cult is losing members now days so I can see why you have been on the War path as of late. I guess it's recruitment time lol. Hope there's a warning label on your koolaid Arken.
And to answer the question you replied to and avoided all together at the same time. No Arken did not say this about War. He is in fact a War fanboi and this is in his post history.
Anyways I figured you would still be here giving sermons to the wicked followers of DarkFall. Keep trying and maybe your message that we will all burn for eternity for enjoying the concept of a game and looking foward to it's release that you don't may sink in. It might help your cause if you stopped acting like a cult and quit trying to beat those that don't agree with you into submission.
As far as Aventurine being a small company with big promises and so far that being it you are correct. The problem is that is exactly it. The only problem you seem to have is that they are a small company. No promises have been broken, the game hasn't been launched buggy and unplayable ..... it hasn't cost you a penny yet lol. So trying to make Aventurine out to be the Anti Christ is a bit pre-mature don't you think?
Anyways we got a date for the next phase of beta, we have an end date for beta all together. I mean you of all people should be happy with the Nov 10th date considering that is what you complained about not to long ago. Having an end date but no start date right? Well now you have it, Nov 10th next phase, all phases over beggining of December. So I guess go consult yout cult and see what you guys can attack the fans with next.
POTD
Seriously though I have become more and more laid back about bothering with some of these guys. I wrote a lengthy post to arcken about why I wasnt going to respond to him anymore, and it has made reading these boards a lot easier. Basically I read a post from someone like that and when I think of the obvious explanation to why he is wrong, i just think....why bother? They arent here for a discussion, they are here to vent about whatever.
Best to just ignore them and make them think they are right. Doing my best to focus my time on these boards on the fans and the skeptics that actually make realistic arguements, and not hypocritical nonsense.
edit: and also realized how much traffic this site actually gets, and made me understand that if a few trolls make it their responsibility to preach the same gospel over and over about how DF is bad on this site then its not changing anything. MMORPG.com gets comparable traffic to the DF official boards if you look at the numbers. So let them preach, and then turn around and call us fanbois cult members for discussing a game we are excited for. Zomg what will they say next!
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This made me laugh. This is fucken golden AAA shit.
This made me laugh. This is fucken golden.
ok?
edit: omg what is going on in your head...you edited your 1 line post 3 times?
once to add "this is ucken golden"
then to add "this is fucken golden AAA shit"
lol trust me your edits did not make it any better or worse....and what was your point exactly? there was a thread where arcken and i were going back and forth and eventually i said enough is enough and wrote him a post in the thread explaining why i was just not going to bother anymore.
make a new thread about how DF is lolzbad...at least you are good at that.
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No I wouldn't expect you to see the ironic humor in that.
riiiight....see my edit above outlining your thought process on adding "fucken golden AAA shit"
clearly im the lesser intellectual here...
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Beyond a shadow of a doubt? Looks as if your second sentence there proves that you're an idiot. Also, the fact that you actually posted the word ucken, instead of "fucking"...That's classically pointless.
And OriginalEgg, so glad to see you again...It has truly been a while
ucken AAA!
So yeah...I've decided that unless the rabid dolts, who decide to liberate us from the clutches of what can only be a failed attempt at another "WoW', are destroying a quality thread, I won't reply to them. I'm tried of even typing responses to people like this mindless idiot...Really, what point is there in his "argument"? None...Not a single one.
I'm no fan-boy of Darkfall, even I hate(d) what was going on with Adventurine a few months back. But even I realize this game has potential now that they're not pulling our leg. It also looks as if they never were, which actually makes me feel even better about things.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.