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Wake up, it's a beta - no company in their right mind would ask for a full review of their game prior to release.
WTS a clue...
Wake up, it's a beta - no company in their right mind would ask for a full review of their game prior to release.
WTS a clue...
Who said it had to be a full review? Letting someone walk around your game for 30 minutes to test the features isn't a "full review."
Also, you seem to be forgetting that DF is only one month from release.
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I don't think tasos etc. would let any one report anything negative about the game. theres no way they are going to let mmorpg write anything critical.
My blog:
Tasos even has released critical Beta quotes himself , trolls like to present us and claim game won't make a 2008 release ..
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
We need more people like Zorvan to ask these types of questions. This is not the usual "Hey guys wheres there beta?" thread. This is a thread thats purpose is to get real hard answers and get someone closer to home (Even if I trust the Italian site I can understand why others would not) to give us the information we need.
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Tasos even has released critical Beta quotes himself , trolls like to present us and claim game won't make a 2008 release ..
no offense but that wasn't in proper english and I don't really know what you are trying to say. but of course the game is not going to release in 2008. theres not much of it left. if advent-urine want to keep thier cultist followers they better bring out the appologies and delay notice soon.
My blog:
u just need to get used to read what i write and then u will understand it..
Tasos has released Beta quotes with negative comments ...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
u just need to get used to read what i write and then u will understand it..
Tasos has released Beta quotes with negative comments ...
I would greatly appreciate a quote of Tasos admitting that a set-date was missed because of complications due to anything other than a vacation... Admit it, anything that includes progress of in-game features, is always golden in Tasos' writing.
We really need something critically written this close to Open Beta, ( which was supposed to really open, what, two weeks ago?) and Release the game's supposed release in this coming month.
Too much positive PR screams that something's wrong, and hidden.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
u just need to get used to read what i write and then u will understand it..
Tasos has released Beta quotes with negative comments ...
I would greatly appreciate a quote of Tasos admitting that a set-date was missed because of complications due to anything other than a vacation... Admit it, anything that includes progress of in-game features, is always golden in Tasos' writing.
We really need something critically written, this close to Open Beta ( which was supposed to really open, what, two weeks ago?) and Release this coming month.
Too much positive PR screams that something's wrong, and hidden.
what pr
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
The screens look like shit imho, its obvious the game exists (when it will launch is another story), but I had hoped for some higher quality visuals at the very least.
Designed on old hardware or not, some of us have jobs, and actually run up-to-date rigs. I'd like to see some shots in high detail, because that cannot possibly be it.
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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PR encompasses much more than just advertisements you see on forums and television, earth. PR also includes the updates on Darkfall's website...
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Wow, you turned on me fast. Please give me an example of my lack of impartiality. As Craig told you, we don't have much contact and he doesn't control the content on the site, I do.
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PR encompasses much more than just advertisements you see on forums and television, earth. PR also includes the updates on Darkfall's website...
so?
they have already..
No, no, you misunderstood, we said an objective opinion.
Just to clarify what I "hope" Kyleran is attempting to defend me on... MMORPG Italia's preview/review/holyshit, was far from objective. It honestly read like more fluff from Adventurine. I really want a dirty review of the beta, and not some dreamy, walk through the park with our Adventurine friends, I just want the truth.
I'm really done with the self-publicizing that they've been doing, everything's always talked up, never down. It's really discouraging.
*EDIT* And yes, to add. I do know that the "review" isn't finished yet because they've to get back to their offices...But that still doesn't change the fact that what was there, was "very" positive.
If you want that (a down and dirty review), you're not likley to get it from a studio visit, I'm afraid. I've been to a lot of these in-house previews and they're very much about that the company wants you to see. This, more likley than any other reason, is why they want press on-site for demo purposes.
Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
PR encompasses much more than just advertisements you see on forums and television, earth. PR also includes the updates on Darkfall's website...
so?
Did I miss your point? Because you're getting nowhere.
I asked Raiden for a critically written PR (Public Relations(figured you'd need an explaination here too)) statement/update, from Tasos. You then asked the above pointless question, which I responded to...Is it really that complicated?
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Just to clarify what I "hope" Kyleran is attempting to defend me on... MMORPG Italia's preview/review/holyshit, was far from objective. It honestly read like more fluff from Adventurine. I really want a dirty review of the beta, and not some dreamy, walk through the park with our Adventurine friends, I just want the truth.
I'm really done with the self-publicizing that they've been doing, everything's always talked up, never down. It's really discouraging.
*EDIT* And yes, to add. I do know that the "review" isn't finished yet because they've to get back to their offices...But that still doesn't change the fact that what was there, was "very" positive.
If you want that (a down and dirty review), you're not likley to get it from a studio visit, I'm afraid. I've been to a lot of these in-house previews and they're very much about that the company wants you to see. This, more likley than any other reason, is why they want press on-site for demo purposes.
Thanks for the answer. I'm just really let down by this company, there feels to be a cloud of spin. And it's really not what I was expecting two months ago, when the newest in-game video was released.
The last month has been a let down, even though since beta "opened", it shouldn't be.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
they have already..
No, no, you misunderstood, we said an objective opinion.
Just to clarify what I "hope" Kyleran is attempting to defend me on... MMORPG Italia's preview/review/holyshit, was far from objective. It honestly read like more fluff from Adventurine. I really want a dirty review of the beta, and not some dreamy, walk through the park with our Adventurine friends, I just want the truth.
I'm really done with the self-publicizing that they've been doing, everything's always talked up, never down. It's really discouraging.
*EDIT* And yes, to add. I do know that the "review" isn't finished yet because they've to get back to their offices...But that still doesn't change the fact that what was there, was "very" positive.
If you want that (a down and dirty review), you're not likley to get it from a studio visit, I'm afraid. I've been to a lot of these in-house previews and they're very much about that the company wants you to see. This, more likley than any other reason, is why they want press on-site for demo purposes.
Agreed. That's why I was hoping you guys could wrangle yourselves into the closed beta itself instead of having to go the "office visit" route.
Oh, and welcome to the convo.
Zorvan, excellent job doing this. You've pulled the forum together under a common goal
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Wow, you turned on me fast. Please give me an example of my lack of impartiality. As Craig told you, we don't have much contact and he doesn't control the content on the site, I do.
I still think your a good guy Stradden!
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At the turn of the century...
In 2008...
Cracked.com voted Roosevelt as the most badass President of all time.
This is his story....
Geez, if I'm not careful, I may lose my "Darkfall forum troll" status.
It's a pointless label... you're skeptical, bask in the accomplishment.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
they have already..
No, no, you misunderstood, we said an objective opinion.
Just to clarify what I "hope" Kyleran is attempting to defend me on... MMORPG Italia's preview/review/holyshit, was far from objective. It honestly read like more fluff from Adventurine. I really want a dirty review of the beta, and not some dreamy, walk through the park with our Adventurine friends, I just want the truth.
I'm really done with the self-publicizing that they've been doing, everything's always talked up, never down. It's really discouraging.
*EDIT* And yes, to add. I do know that the "review" isn't finished yet because they've to get back to their offices...But that still doesn't change the fact that what was there, was "very" positive.
You nailed it on the head. I was calling for an objective preview of the game, however recalling previews by major game magazines of other titles and they read a lot like this one. Aventurine is doing what most other companies do, control what is released about their game before release.
Someone posted the link to the DF forums where its clear that Tasos put severe limitations on what could be said about the game and I do not expect any future "reviews" by the Italians to be any more objective (i.e. discuss the negatives) than the preview was. It just won't be permitted.
Oh well, Aventurine can't hide forever. I suspect the 2008 date is out the window, and if so, they'll be rightly cruicified for it. Not so much because they missed the date, but more for trying to maintain a charade up till the bitter end, which is their trademark.
Doesn't look like Stadden thinks its worth their time to preview the game at this point, as it will be nothing but a carefully controlled PR visit which certainly doesn't justfy the expense of the trip.
One final note to Downtoearth (what a misnomer if ever there was one) You have proven yourself to be a hardcore fanboi without a shred of objectivity, or perhaps even basic understanding of software developement.
You are determined to defend DF against any rational argument, and call all who do so trolls.
If that's your definition, then I most certainly am a troll, and will wear the title with pride.
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You've summarized this thread well, and yeah, you're right...I don't think this will go any further into a positive direction.
We can still hope, right?
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
we can hope maybe if there short on cash to get there.. wodner if the site can do a donation thing im sure there enough people on here willt o donate alil money XDD
they have already..
No, no, you misunderstood, we said an objective opinion.
Just to clarify what I "hope" Kyleran is attempting to defend me on... MMORPG Italia's preview/review/holyshit, was far from objective. It honestly read like more fluff from Adventurine. I really want a dirty review of the beta, and not some dreamy, walk through the park with our Adventurine friends, I just want the truth.
I'm really done with the self-publicizing that they've been doing, everything's always talked up, never down. It's really discouraging.
*EDIT* And yes, to add. I do know that the "review" isn't finished yet because they've to get back to their offices...But that still doesn't change the fact that what was there, was "very" positive.
You nailed it on the head. I was calling for an objective preview of the game, however recalling previews by major game magazines of other titles and they read a lot like this one. Aventurine is doing what most other companies do, control what is released about their game before release.
Someone posted the link to the DF forums where its clear that Tasos put severe limitations on what could be said about the game and I do not expect any future "reviews" by the Italians to be any more objective (i.e. discuss the negatives) than the preview was. It just won't be permitted.
Oh well, Aventurine can't hide forever. I suspect the 2008 date is out the window, and if so, they'll be rightly cruicified for it. Not so much because they missed the date, but more for trying to maintain a charade up till the bitter end, which is their trademark.
Doesn't look like Stadden thinks its worth their time to preview the game at this point, as it will be nothing but a carefully controlled PR visit which certainly doesn't justfy the expense of the trip.
One final note to Downtoearth (what a misnomer if ever there was one) You have proven yourself to be a hardcore fanboi without a shred of objectivity, or perhaps even basic understanding of software developement.
You are determined to defend DF against any rational argument, and call all who do so trolls.
If that's your definition, then I most certainly am a troll, and will wear the title with pride.
actully i object alot of things but i just dont voice it lol.
honestly i wouldnt even post bearly if people didnt point fingures all the time at tasos.
As long as they dont charge money i dont care what they do.
Defend what i defend DF from people liek tenspotting and all his alt accounts he has
acken can push it pol i dont mind so much.
i dont disagree on everything oyu say . ive agreed on releas enot happening this year but i just stick it to it mite lets see what happens.
maybe they think there still on schedule but if theya re goign ot have to delay theys hould say something. But can iwe force themt os ay something NO so why waiste the time QQ about it