And I'm still pissed off about it. The most frustrating part is not being able to find a game that has anywhere near what SWG used to offer. I think the fact that it has been so long and so many of us are still mad shows a lot for how special this game was to it's players. How you guys feeling?
I can't agree with you at all I don't trust SOE due to the debacle and they have certainly made it a harder sell to purchase the other products they deliver but I have been over this nge thing for a very long time. It's like the kid who takes his ball home in the middle of the game it might be wrong but it is there ball after all I have moved on to bigger and better things and am glad for it
Here lies the problem for me, I can't find anything bigger or better than what SWG once was for me, and thus the reason why I haven't gotten over it.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike Loved: Star Wars Galaxies Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
For the knuckledraggers in these forums that like to think they can read, badger is correct, if you don't like the game, go somewhere else. let people who do enjoy. and keep in mind as all these MMO states " game play may change"
We have gone somewhere else. Remember that the next time you log on to an empty server.
QFE
That's why they are abandoning half of them in the next month or so.
So that the other half are less than empty more or less.
The list of servers they are keeping is still too big. They should have consolidated down to three servers. Maybe then the populations would have resembled the pre-CU game.
If they wanted high density servers given the current number of active players they should consolidate to 5 or less servers.
i am still mad with SOE, though i gave them a chance and went to their game that had the best reputation EQ2... look how that turned out.
after i left the SWG (the day NGE hit live) ive been MMO hopping, i tried WoW (lasted the free month + 15 days)
participated in GW beta 1 and stayed with it for the longest time i can remember. but only because i have like 6 RL friends of mine who where playing it too... so it was fun in that way, but it didnt give me the openness feel to it.
went to EQ2... then sony cash shop.... (and due to other scams and pure bad business while purchasing a sony product for my dad for xmas) i will say that i will no longer buy any sony products (yes that includes the PS3)
now i have found the game that gives me about 3/4 of the pre-cu SWG feel (EvE online) and i think ill stick with it for a long time. i have made that my new home. even when darkfall or mortal hit live ill stay in eve. its time for me to settle down and stick with something.
SWG is long gone for me but i still like to keep up with its features and see whats new. i go in trials. but i have a set of rules that i follow,
1. i quit the first rubber band that lasts longer than 1 minute
2.i quit if i spend 10 minutes without finding anyone (regardless of where and when)
3. i quit if i anyone or anything shoots me through a wall
4. i quit if its to easy and tedious
5. i quit i have the urge to say "WTF is this!?!" or "Is this it?"
(so far i have not made it past 3 days)
and even in the "OTHER" SWG im considering it hard depending on many factors.
Kinda over it myself. Sure, I mean, I help with two sites whose members commonly bash SOE (you think wildcat's harsh - you should trying hanging out with a bunch of ex rangers sometime), archive PreCU data, keep up to the minute updates on the various emus and haunt this board but other than that I have moved on. Hehe, funny story though. I was up north about 2 months ago and visiting a friend at his apartment complex. We were standing out in the hallway and I made a comment about my friend who was standing there looking stupid and called him a Smed. So two doors down, this guy was leaving his apartment and locking his door...he looks up and starts going off about the NGE. Comes over and covers his whole story of how his profession was wiped out and how much he hated the game now. Bonding moment. Kinda like that Hardies commercial with the sandwiches.
Lol I teach at a college and mentioned that I play MMO's. A group of students came up to me after class to warn me about SOE lmao. They went through the whole story about the lies, broken promises, deletions of everything in SWG. They didn't want me to get my feelings hurt, sweet kids .
Kinda over it myself. Sure, I mean, I help with two sites whose members commonly bash SOE (you think wildcat's harsh - you should trying hanging out with a bunch of ex rangers sometime), archive PreCU data, keep up to the minute updates on the various emus and haunt this board but other than that I have moved on. Hehe, funny story though. I was up north about 2 months ago and visiting a friend at his apartment complex. We were standing out in the hallway and I made a comment about my friend who was standing there looking stupid and called him a Smed. So two doors down, this guy was leaving his apartment and locking his door...he looks up and starts going off about the NGE. Comes over and covers his whole story of how his profession was wiped out and how much he hated the game now. Bonding moment. Kinda like that Hardies commercial with the sandwiches.
Lol I teach at a college and mentioned that I play MMO's. A group of students came up to me after class to warn me about SOE lmao. They went through the whole story about the lies, broken promises, deletions of everything in SWG. They didn't want me to get my feelings hurt, sweet kids .
In WoW, you can generate a conversation of SWG exiles bemoaning the NGE with a phrase or two. It just starts flowing with people expressing how much they miss preCU SWG, and how they'll never play another SOE game again.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
For the knuckledraggers in these forums that like to think they can read, badger is correct, if you don't like the game, go somewhere else. let people who do enjoy. and keep in mind as all these MMO states " game play may change"
We have gone somewhere else. Remember that the next time you log on to an empty server.
Knuckle-draggers lol. Cites the warning about online conduct and calls us knuckle-draggers. Then tells people to leave when the biggest cry in the game is for free transfers or server merges due to population problems. Oh the irony lol.
Knuckle-draggers, I'm still laughing about that
P.S. to the guy who posted that, in all honesty I do hope that you enjoy yourself, and have a good new year. No kidding, I like to see other people have fun, and for some reason being called a knuckle-dragger really gave me a good chuckle. Also, it's the irony I find humourous, not laughing "at" you personally Enjoy!
Best thing about SWG at the moment I would say ( if all you trolls are still having a beef) would be the lack of lame players. Still same old SWG style community, all the annouying people went to WoW and other games. I think that's what I enjoy most is Decent people to run around with. I've ignored, and reported soo many people in WoW (trade channel and generial chat was silenced more then once) that to me wow would have been better if it wasn't for the stupid players. people help each other out in swg, there is rp, there is player events, guild assitance. No game is perfect. Honestly, that has to be a big reason for me coming back to swg, to get away from all the bird droppings for brains like I've seen. My only comment, seeing another SOE game that IS well polished, is why did they not take the combat system from that group.. obviously two different development teams, however if I knew one group was having a problem, I shift gears and bring in another. it's business. Swg does need a good fix with good developers. They got a good start with fixing the " outter ring of things" to keep it going... now they need to fix inner ring.. like the game core and combat. credit sinks, decay (and yes decay is needed no matter how much combat people whine). memmory leaks, rendering engine, texture bugs, regular bugs, professions, loot charts (i can go on but its 4AM here and im getting tired) For the knuckledraggers in these forums that like to think they can read, badger is correct, if you don't like the game, go somewhere else. let people who do enjoy. and keep in mind as all these MMO states " game play may change" but i don't see where GAME MAY CHANGE. oh wait they added it themselves in the EULA, which is not the EULA that i got from my box that i payed 59,99 when game released. Badger.. keep the fixes comin to those Devs.. seem they actually awake and doing what they are suppose to do now. keep on them. I love the fact there is communication now. highly doubt there is communication, i think the right term is "realization" specially from the comments i hear from them (talking about the camps one) and to that one poster, you are correct, it was squadleader, what was once thought of the most broken proff in the game pre- NGE and pre -cu., Boy did I have fun as a Squadleader/carbineer. was doing leeroy jenkins tactics before that newb made 10th level (jedi's make great bait).
you also posted higher up that smugglers are decent now... question for you,
Best thing about SWG at the moment I would say ( if all you trolls are still having a beef) would be the lack of lame players. Still same old SWG style community, all the annouying people went to WoW and other games. I think that's what I enjoy most is Decent people to run around with. I've ignored, and reported soo many people in WoW (trade channel and generial chat was silenced more then once) that to me wow would have been better if it wasn't for the stupid players. people help each other out in swg, there is rp, there is player events, guild assitance. No game is perfect. Honestly, that has to be a big reason for me coming back to swg, to get away from all the bird droppings for brains like I've seen. My only comment, seeing another SOE game that IS well polished, is why did they not take the combat system from that group.. obviously two different development teams, however if I knew one group was having a problem, I shift gears and bring in another. it's business. Swg does need a good fix with good developers. They got a good start with fixing the " outter ring of things" to keep it going... now they need to fix inner ring.. like the game core and combat. credit sinks, decay (and yes decay is needed no matter how much combat people whine). memmory leaks, rendering engine, texture bugs, regular bugs, professions, loot charts (i can go on but its 4AM here and im getting tired) For the knuckledraggers in these forums that like to think they can read, badger is correct, if you don't like the game, go somewhere else. let people who do enjoy. and keep in mind as all these MMO states " game play may change" but i don't see where GAME MAY CHANGE. oh wait they added it themselves in the EULA, which is not the EULA that i got from my box that i payed 59,99 when game released. Badger.. keep the fixes comin to those Devs.. seem they actually awake and doing what they are suppose to do now. keep on them. I love the fact there is communication now. highly doubt there is communication, i think the right term is "realization" specially from the comments i hear from them (talking about the camps one) and to that one poster, you are correct, it was squadleader, what was once thought of the most broken proff in the game pre- NGE and pre -cu., Boy did I have fun as a Squadleader/carbineer. was doing leeroy jenkins tactics before that newb made 10th level (jedi's make great bait).
you also posted higher up that smugglers are decent now... question for you,
Can Smugglers actually (god forbid) Smuggle?
No, they can't. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along any minute to tell you I'm wrong but I'm not. SOE implemented a "smuggling system" a few patches back that consists entirely of delivery missions...just like the delivery missions from the consoles. The only difference is that the smuggling delivery missions spawn some bad guys that try to kill you. When I tried one of these missions I just rode past the bad guys...lol.
Best thing about SWG at the moment I would say ( if all you trolls are still having a beef) would be the lack of lame players. Still same old SWG style community, all the annouying people went to WoW and other games. I think that's what I enjoy most is Decent people to run around with. I've ignored, and reported soo many people in WoW (trade channel and generial chat was silenced more then once) that to me wow would have been better if it wasn't for the stupid players. people help each other out in swg, there is rp, there is player events, guild assitance. No game is perfect. Honestly, that has to be a big reason for me coming back to swg, to get away from all the bird droppings for brains like I've seen. My only comment, seeing another SOE game that IS well polished, is why did they not take the combat system from that group.. obviously two different development teams, however if I knew one group was having a problem, I shift gears and bring in another. it's business. Swg does need a good fix with good developers. They got a good start with fixing the " outter ring of things" to keep it going... now they need to fix inner ring.. like the game core and combat. credit sinks, decay (and yes decay is needed no matter how much combat people whine). memmory leaks, rendering engine, texture bugs, regular bugs, professions, loot charts (i can go on but its 4AM here and im getting tired) For the knuckledraggers in these forums that like to think they can read, badger is correct, if you don't like the game, go somewhere else. let people who do enjoy. and keep in mind as all these MMO states " game play may change" but i don't see where GAME MAY CHANGE. oh wait they added it themselves in the EULA, which is not the EULA that i got from my box that i payed 59,99 when game released. Badger.. keep the fixes comin to those Devs.. seem they actually awake and doing what they are suppose to do now. keep on them. I love the fact there is communication now. highly doubt there is communication, i think the right term is "realization" specially from the comments i hear from them (talking about the camps one) and to that one poster, you are correct, it was squadleader, what was once thought of the most broken proff in the game pre- NGE and pre -cu., Boy did I have fun as a Squadleader/carbineer. was doing leeroy jenkins tactics before that newb made 10th level (jedi's make great bait).
you also posted higher up that smugglers are decent now... question for you,
Can Smugglers actually (god forbid) Smuggle?
No, they can't. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along any minute to tell you I'm wrong but I'm not. SOE implemented a "smuggling system" a few patches back that consists entirely of delivery missions...just like the delivery missions from the consoles. The only difference is that the smuggling delivery missions spawn some bad guys that try to kill you. When I tried one of these missions I just rode past the bad guys...lol.
that was a rhetorical question, i perfectly new well that you can't smuggle and that the system they have is a glorified delivery mission
For the knuckledraggers in these forums that like to think they can read, badger is correct, if you don't like the game, go somewhere else. let people who do enjoy. and keep in mind as all these MMO states " game play may change"
We have gone somewhere else. Remember that the next time you log on to an empty server.
Absolutely..i would be a happy gamer if they did not touch the game and had put in the CU/NGE crap
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Still looking for a game that offers what that one had, although I imagine it will be difficult to find....not just un terms of a lack of games that use that style/set-up but also because of the immersiveness the IP gave the game (people are very familiar with star wars and come into the game with knowledge about the setting and feelings about the storyline....ex.: there was something to base the choice of faction on other than reading a "background" off a website..... plus star wars had a known environment--familiar planets/cities/places of interest, known weapons, known clothing, known armor, known music, known "professions," known species, known animals.....nearly everything had a familiar element to it so the player stepped into a world they recognized and they were able to be a part of that world).
Because I have not found anything that replaces it, I still find myself missing it from time to time and wishing there were a way to get it back. I seriously don't think Old Republic is going to be the answer. It may be done better but I think it will be based on the same premises that got us NGE.
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I can't agree with you at all I don't trust SOE due to the debacle and they have certainly made it a harder sell to purchase the other products they deliver but I have been over this nge thing for a very long time. It's like the kid who takes his ball home in the middle of the game it might be wrong but it is there ball after all I have moved on to bigger and better things and am glad for it
Here lies the problem for me, I can't find anything bigger or better than what SWG once was for me, and thus the reason why I haven't gotten over it.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
We have gone somewhere else. Remember that the next time you log on to an empty server.
QFE
That's why they are abandoning half of them in the next month or so.
So that the other half are less than empty more or less.
The list of servers they are keeping is still too big. They should have consolidated down to three servers. Maybe then the populations would have resembled the pre-CU game.
If they wanted high density servers given the current number of active players they should consolidate to 5 or less servers.
i am still mad with SOE, though i gave them a chance and went to their game that had the best reputation EQ2... look how that turned out.
after i left the SWG (the day NGE hit live) ive been MMO hopping, i tried WoW (lasted the free month + 15 days)
participated in GW beta 1 and stayed with it for the longest time i can remember. but only because i have like 6 RL friends of mine who where playing it too... so it was fun in that way, but it didnt give me the openness feel to it.
went to EQ2... then sony cash shop.... (and due to other scams and pure bad business while purchasing a sony product for my dad for xmas) i will say that i will no longer buy any sony products (yes that includes the PS3)
now i have found the game that gives me about 3/4 of the pre-cu SWG feel (EvE online) and i think ill stick with it for a long time. i have made that my new home. even when darkfall or mortal hit live ill stay in eve. its time for me to settle down and stick with something.
SWG is long gone for me but i still like to keep up with its features and see whats new. i go in trials. but i have a set of rules that i follow,
1. i quit the first rubber band that lasts longer than 1 minute
2.i quit if i spend 10 minutes without finding anyone (regardless of where and when)
3. i quit if i anyone or anything shoots me through a wall
4. i quit if its to easy and tedious
5. i quit i have the urge to say "WTF is this!?!" or "Is this it?"
(so far i have not made it past 3 days)
and even in the "OTHER" SWG im considering it hard depending on many factors.
Lol I teach at a college and mentioned that I play MMO's. A group of students came up to me after class to warn me about SOE lmao. They went through the whole story about the lies, broken promises, deletions of everything in SWG. They didn't want me to get my feelings hurt, sweet kids
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That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Lol I teach at a college and mentioned that I play MMO's. A group of students came up to me after class to warn me about SOE lmao. They went through the whole story about the lies, broken promises, deletions of everything in SWG. They didn't want me to get my feelings hurt, sweet kids
.
In WoW, you can generate a conversation of SWG exiles bemoaning the NGE with a phrase or two. It just starts flowing with people expressing how much they miss preCU SWG, and how they'll never play another SOE game again.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
We have gone somewhere else. Remember that the next time you log on to an empty server.
Knuckle-draggers lol. Cites the warning about online conduct and calls us knuckle-draggers. Then tells people to leave when the biggest cry in the game is for free transfers or server merges due to population problems. Oh the irony lol.
Knuckle-draggers, I'm still laughing about that
P.S. to the guy who posted that, in all honesty I do hope that you enjoy yourself, and have a good new year. No kidding, I like to see other people have fun, and for some reason being called a knuckle-dragger really gave me a good chuckle. Also, it's the irony I find humourous, not laughing "at" you personally
Enjoy!
you also posted higher up that smugglers are decent now... question for you,
Can Smugglers actually (god forbid) Smuggle?
you also posted higher up that smugglers are decent now... question for you,
Can Smugglers actually (god forbid) Smuggle?
No, they can't. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along any minute to tell you I'm wrong but I'm not. SOE implemented a "smuggling system" a few patches back that consists entirely of delivery missions...just like the delivery missions from the consoles. The only difference is that the smuggling delivery missions spawn some bad guys that try to kill you. When I tried one of these missions I just rode past the bad guys...lol.
you also posted higher up that smugglers are decent now... question for you,
Can Smugglers actually (god forbid) Smuggle?
No, they can't. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along any minute to tell you I'm wrong but I'm not. SOE implemented a "smuggling system" a few patches back that consists entirely of delivery missions...just like the delivery missions from the consoles. The only difference is that the smuggling delivery missions spawn some bad guys that try to kill you. When I tried one of these missions I just rode past the bad guys...lol.
That's what I figured but I wanted to get the truth in here before one of the fanbois showed up and said that smugglers can smuggle.
We have gone somewhere else. Remember that the next time you log on to an empty server.
Absolutely..i would be a happy gamer if they did not touch the game and had put in the CU/NGE crap
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Soe broke a trust. I will never forgive nor forget. Still mad after 3 years.
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Still looking for a game that offers what that one had, although I imagine it will be difficult to find....not just un terms of a lack of games that use that style/set-up but also because of the immersiveness the IP gave the game (people are very familiar with star wars and come into the game with knowledge about the setting and feelings about the storyline....ex.: there was something to base the choice of faction on other than reading a "background" off a website..... plus star wars had a known environment--familiar planets/cities/places of interest, known weapons, known clothing, known armor, known music, known "professions," known species, known animals.....nearly everything had a familiar element to it so the player stepped into a world they recognized and they were able to be a part of that world).
Because I have not found anything that replaces it, I still find myself missing it from time to time and wishing there were a way to get it back. I seriously don't think Old Republic is going to be the answer. It may be done better but I think it will be based on the same premises that got us NGE.