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Aventurine Refuses MMORPG.COM Preview Request

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  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410

    Tasos will let anyone of his friends preview his feature complete, fully tested and ready to release game, many many many previews are out there you just have to find them.

    Anyone can see Darkfall for themselves, Tasos is ready and waiting to show anyone the game on his laptop in Athens for a few minutes, what are you all waiting for?, just contact him and arrange a visit, do it now.

    The main reason why a revolutionary advanced next generation title like Darkfall does not get the media attention it really deserves is Tasos spends all his money making the best game ever for us instead of paying journalists for previews like every other game does before launch.

    All the previews will come after launch, Tasos is to busy to do them at the moment, so thank him for not wasting time on releasing new information about the game when we already have 8 years of old information about the game.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    By all fairness "Refuses"  in the OP seems me a bit  exaggerating choice of a word to  represent this  quote  : 

    "We were told that we would be allowed to see it when the time came. We haven't seen it yet."

    It wasn't a strict denying ..but  they should get in...

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  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293
    Originally posted by Polarization


    Tasos will let anyone of his friends preview his feature complete, fully tested and ready to release game, many many many previews are out there you just have to find them.
    Anyone can see Darkfall for themselves, Tasos is ready and waiting to show anyone the game on his laptop in Athens for a few minutes, what are you all waiting for?, just contact him and arrange a visit, do it now.
    The main reason why a revolutionary advanced next generation title like Darkfall does not get the media attention it really deserves is Tasos spends all his money making the best game ever for us instead of paying journalists for previews like every other game does before launch.
    All the previews will come after launch, Tasos is to busy to do them at the moment, so thank him for not wasting time on releasing new information about the game when we already have 8 years of old information about the game.

     

    Im going to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are joking.

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by usrbinperl1


    1) the reply you are referring to was not from Stradden, and
    2) there are more than a dozen beta leaks out there which a) confirm everything in the noob/mmorpg.it/yellowbeard/asp previews, and b) generally present an image of a stable, promising game.
     
    this thread sucks.

    Yes all the answers to our questions are always in the beta leaks........God this response to every question is so lame now.

     

    Everything is confirmed in the noob....lol

     

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by usrbinperl1


    1) the reply you are referring to was not from Stradden, and
    2) there are more than a dozen beta leaks out there which a) confirm everything in the noob/mmorpg.it/yellowbeard/asp previews, and b) generally present an image of a stable, promising game.
     
    stradden's post history suggests, if anything, that whiners and doubters ought to cry less and be a little more realistic. he even suggested star wars: old republic was closer to being vapourware than darkfall.
     
     

     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.

    As for the suggestion that Star Wars: OR was closer to being vaporware, that's a silly notion. First of all, the game was just announced. Second of all it is being created by Bioware and Lucas Arts. Those two companies have a track record of released games. The game may be cancelled or changed but it is not vaporware.

    On the other hand, we have Aventurine with no track record, lots of lies and Tasos who has been claiming that Darkfall has been feature complete for the past couple of years. We also have a couple of reviews by people affiliated, one way or another, with either Tasos or Aventurine.

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  • KienKien Member Posts: 520
    Originally posted by usrbinperl1


    1) the reply you are referring to was not from Stradden, and

     

    Huh?

    Stradden, S-t-r-a-d-d-e-n. 

     

    I'm bewildered. Is this the latest defense for Darkfall - the sky isn't blue, the Earth isn't round?

  • AshrikAshrik Member Posts: 381

    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.

    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.

    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.

    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.

    Where was I going with all this?

    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.


    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.
  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

    Fine with me.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Ashrik


    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.
    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.
    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.
    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.
    Where was I going with all this?
    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.
     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.

     

    actully most stuff is enabled it was content they hadnt put in all the way next patch will have alot more

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O

  • AshrikAshrik Member Posts: 381


    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O
    Considering your post history.... ah you know what, nevermind.
  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by Pyrostasis


    Oh and I would just like to add, with sites like MMORPG.com PUBLICLY saying they have requested access to review and being denied... who's credibility do you think that hurts hmm?

     

    Being denied would be a NO, not a statement that basically means "we aren't ready for you to review the game yet"

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  • NetzokoNetzoko Member Posts: 1,271

    It makes you wonder...

    If this game is so epically awesome (As Tasos claims it is), why do they hide it so much?

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Ashrik


     

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O
    Considering your post history.... ah you know what, nevermind.

     

     

    thought you didnt : )

    i did say public beta on the 22nd probly which i was mostly right

     

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Theocritus


                 I think the people that are pre ordering this game would have been the same ones waiting in line for the Kool Aid that Jim Jones made a few years ago..........Despite all the warning signs there will still be people that blindly give Aventurine whatever they want for this game......As for beta leaks, there might not be any......ALot of us have suspicions that there may not be many because they arent letting outsiders in..... The reason why they wont give any outside source a preview/interview is that they have alot to hide and their game is bush league......Go watch the vids on youtube where you cant understand what the guys are saying.....They look terrible....The graphics are dull and bland and the characters are extremely herky jerky.......LIke a previous poseter said there are plenty of examples of bad releases and Darkfall is following in those same footsteps..... You guys can give Aventurine your money but dont say you havent been warned......When/if the game releases what does it hurt to wait a month or two to get some solid reviews?? At least with AoC/WAR we knew people who were in the betas.....No one seems to know anyone in the Darkfall beta testing.

     

    ok what about my friend then?because he sure in hell didnt play with the devs back in the day or the devs friend

    Perhaps your friend is jerking your chain?  Some friends are like that you know.

    You gotta admit it would be a pretty good punk on you with all the posts and "guarantees" you've made here.    

    I might have missed one... but have you been right on any of them yet?   Just wondering. 

    I guess if it was me... I might start doubting how reliable my friends information was. 

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ashrik


    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.
    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.
    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.
    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.
    Where was I going with all this?
    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.
     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.

     

    actully most stuff is enabled it was content they hadnt put in all the way next patch will have alot more

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O

     

    From what I hear, most of the important aspects of the game are not in, as of yet. Ships, housing, player cities, sieging, etc. are all supposedly being tested by the internal team.

    Which kind of reminds me of how AoC was during beta. All of the most important stuff was "being tested by internal testers" and we know how that game is doing.

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Netzoko


    It makes you wonder...
    If this game is so epically awesome (As Tasos claims it is), why do they hide it so much?

     

    never heard him say that...

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228


    Originally posted by downtoearth
    Originally posted by Netzoko It makes you wonder...
    If this game is so epically awesome (As Tasos claims it is), why do they hide it so much?
     
    never heard him say that...

    but we can fake some chatlogs :D:D

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ashrik


    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.
    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.
    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.
    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.
    Where was I going with all this?
    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.
     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.

     

    actully most stuff is enabled it was content they hadnt put in all the way next patch will have alot more

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O

     

    From what I hear, most of the important aspects of the game are not in, as of yet. Ships, housing, player cities, sieging, etc. are all supposedly being tested by the internal team.

    Which kind of reminds me of how AoC was during beta. All of the most important stuff was "being tested by internal testers" and we know how that game is doing.

     

    yea thats why it got delayed because that stuff hasnt been tested by the beta testers yet.. they got behind or tasos just under estimited how long it would take to test everything. it didnt help they lost the servers for a week during the holidays : /

    but yea that stuff will be tested before release since thast what is being said.. for the 22nd trial thingy

  • rageagainstrageagainst Member Posts: 618

    there are real leaks coming out people... btw

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ashrik


    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.
    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.
    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.
    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.
    Where was I going with all this?
    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.
     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.

     

    actully most stuff is enabled it was content they hadnt put in all the way next patch will have alot more

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O

     

    From what I hear, most of the important aspects of the game are not in, as of yet. Ships, housing, player cities, sieging, etc. are all supposedly being tested by the internal team.

    Which kind of reminds me of how AoC was during beta. All of the most important stuff was "being tested by internal testers" and we know how that game is doing.

     

    yea thats why it got delayed because that stuff hasnt been tested by the beta testers yet.. they got behind or tasos just under estimited how long it would take to test everything. it didnt help they lost the servers for a week during the holidays : /

    but yea that stuff will be tested before release since thast what is being said.. for the 22nd trial thingy

    A month is not enough to properly test these features. Those are huge features and you think that Aventurine will be able to tackle them in a month? Provided that they actually enable them on the test servers.

    Besides, according to Tasos, the game has been feature complete and ready for release for quite some time now. What happened?

    Lastly, ask your friend about the clickfest melee combat and the 3 minute health regeneration. I wonder how long will it take for people to flame these revolutionary features.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ashrik


    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.
    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.
    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.
    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.
    Where was I going with all this?
    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.
     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.

     

    actully most stuff is enabled it was content they hadnt put in all the way next patch will have alot more

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O

     

    From what I hear, most of the important aspects of the game are not in, as of yet. Ships, housing, player cities, sieging, etc. are all supposedly being tested by the internal team.

    Which kind of reminds me of how AoC was during beta. All of the most important stuff was "being tested by internal testers" and we know how that game is doing.

     

    yea thats why it got delayed because that stuff hasnt been tested by the beta testers yet.. they got behind or tasos just under estimited how long it would take to test everything. it didnt help they lost the servers for a week during the holidays : /

    but yea that stuff will be tested before release since thast what is being said.. for the 22nd trial thingy

    these are some huge discrepencies....you said only some quest stuff wasn't turned on....but now its basically everything but the avatars that are not in....and you agreed....wtf? your credibility is nosediving.......

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Ashrik


    You know, I don't think he's a liar for suddenly acknowledging (at least part of) the realities of a successful game release. I think he was just naive and probably a bit arrogant, and it is now biting him in his backside.
    I lot of people admire strength and honest, and that's easy enough to get. To this end, a lot of other people sayyy politicians are unusually reticent to change their mind on just about any issue because they then get perceived as weak-willed at best, dishonest at worst.
    I personally prefer the intellectual honest that is inherent to changing one's mind when there is sufficient reason to do so.
    The whole "we don't announce until we're sure we won't delay" was bullcrap. So is the David v Goliath fairy tale of taking on the big guys and flipping the industry on its head. So was the "pre-orders for early access or cool items is nothing but a scam". That was all nonsense, from my perspective.
    Where was I going with all this?
    I guess I'm just trying to say that it's not so bad.
     

    Except for the beta leaks that talk about an empty world (outside of the newbie areas), most features turned off and clickfest melee combat.
    Although this is cause for concern, no matter what way you look at it.

     

    actully most stuff is enabled it was content they hadnt put in all the way next patch will have alot more

    doesnt anyone understand the concept of q/a testing O_O

     

    From what I hear, most of the important aspects of the game are not in, as of yet. Ships, housing, player cities, sieging, etc. are all supposedly being tested by the internal team.

    Which kind of reminds me of how AoC was during beta. All of the most important stuff was "being tested by internal testers" and we know how that game is doing.

     

    yea thats why it got delayed because that stuff hasnt been tested by the beta testers yet.. they got behind or tasos just under estimited how long it would take to test everything. it didnt help they lost the servers for a week during the holidays : /

    but yea that stuff will be tested before release since thast what is being said.. for the 22nd trial thingy

    these are some huge discrepencies....you said only some quest stuff wasn't turned on....but now its basically everything but the avatars that are not in....and you agreed....wtf? your credibility is nosediving.......

    umm i read that they was turned on like ship resources for ships being spawned and having someone craft it.

    but being fully tested and being turne don is 2 diffrent things your elize they do wipe offen at least they was.

    well we will see if they can test it all in amonth or not who knows if the game has issue youll hear about it

    and yes i know the meele isnt perfec tbut what do youe xpect .. elder scrolls combat isnt much

    my firend thinks meele is ok but it need some tweaks still.

    i dont understand why you gusy are expecting a perfect game because im not i just want a stable and working game with said features

    you guys nit pick at everything anyways says.. and twist people words jsut ot make them look bad. its really stupid to be honest

     

    i dont care if you guys belive me or not.. but i do believe my friend : )

    friend didnt say anything about the highend content being turned on he wasnt sure. it was on the betaleaks site for that so ye a: /

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    so if they cant be crafted, how can they be made and used and piloted, tested, warfare, etc?

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by miagisan


    so if they cant be crafted, how can they be made and used and piloted, tested, warfare, etc?

     

    they can...

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by Theocritus


                 I think the people that are pre ordering this game would have been the same ones waiting in line for the Kool Aid that Jim Jones made a few years ago..........Despite all the warning signs there will still be people that blindly give Aventurine whatever they want for this game......As for beta leaks, there might not be any......ALot of us have suspicions that there may not be many because they arent letting outsiders in..... The reason why they wont give any outside source a preview/interview is that they have alot to hide and their game is bush league......Go watch the vids on youtube where you cant understand what the guys are saying.....They look terrible....The graphics are dull and bland and the characters are extremely herky jerky.......LIke a previous poseter said there are plenty of examples of bad releases and Darkfall is following in those same footsteps..... You guys can give Aventurine your money but dont say you havent been warned......When/if the game releases what does it hurt to wait a month or two to get some solid reviews?? At least with AoC/WAR we knew people who were in the betas.....No one seems to know anyone in the Darkfall beta testing.

     

    ok what about my friend then?because he sure in hell didnt play with the devs back in the day or the devs friend

    Perhaps your friend is jerking your chain?  Some friends are like that you know.

    You gotta admit it would be a pretty good punk on you with all the posts and "guarantees" you've made here.    

    I might have missed one... but have you been right on any of them yet?   Just wondering. 

    I guess if it was me... I might start doubting how reliable my friends information was. 

     

    well the testers dont know what aventurine is planing they dotn tell them much past what we know just what they need to know at the time heh

    the info i gotten from him as been spot on

    he doesnt even know whats planed for the 22nd or whos being picked or anything like that

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