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Server merges were a failure. What's next?
kunoulovesme
Member Posts: 14
Only SOE could be this clueless. Reports are coming in from all the the destination servers that the game is almost completely unplayable because of the lag. The official forums are once again up in flames and SOE is still unwilling to admit that the poorly coded NGE is the problem and the swg mod squad is doing double duty trying to keep a lid on everything.
What's amazing is that anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together should have seen this coming. Remember how bad the lag was right after the NGE went live when the servers were still populated? SOE didn't fix the problem...the servers just got emptier and emptier so the problem was less noticible. Then, as usual, SOE makes massive changes to the game (server merges) without doing even five minutes of testing.
I predict that these server merges are hurting the population stats even worse than if SOE had continued to ignore the problem. The next good time to look forward to is when they try to close the empty servers and force the remaining holdouts to move to one of the now lagged out servers.
What's their next move? My guess is they continue to deny there are major problems until the sunset notice comes right before KotORO goes live.
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SOE mandate - if it works change it, if it doesn't work ignore it then lie about it
and i could agree with you about it hurting the pop as the vid posted shows less ppl online than last nov when i checked for myself
i'm guessing next is the cash shop as it's already in EQ2 and after that the only thing left is micro payments
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Boom headshot.
forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m
It's only 27 pages and was stickied for the last week or so.
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Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Boom headshot.
forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m
Hmm interesting. Good find, but I haven't been experiencing lag. Guess I am the lucky one.
I logged on a couple times because most if not all inactive accounts were turned on during this period.
Even tho I was always a Starsider player (thus no free transfer). In general there isn't much for lag..
Going through Theed on the way to/from my house if some people were fighting then yes... we are talking about game performance that is beyond ugly. My system isn't the problem and with most settings on high in raids with full effects on (in EQ2) I never see frame rate drops like that.
So I'm going to imagine much of any active pvp is certainly causing performance issues...
Then again you don't have to go here or the official forums to read what someone says... if you have an account.. its most likely on for at least a few more days... you could.. see for yourself..
While I really have no comment on the current state of the mergers, I do want to point one thing out.
The odds of mergers actually driving people off it pretty low. It will drive off those who don't adjust to the new intermingled communities or those who just liked the closeness of smaller communities. Overall though, if people have not already left more lag and crashes isn't going to be an eye opener unless the game is beyond unplayable.
At this point people will put up with just about anything.
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Boom headshot.
forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m
Hmm interesting. Good find, but I haven't been experiencing lag. Guess I am the lucky one.
So when can I expect an apology for insunuating that I'm a liar?
I jumped on my vet trial just for lack of anything more interesting to do. And I have been in a Star Wars kinda mood lately. It was about a year the last time I played and things were pretty low key. Wasn't totally dead but just a tiny fraction of population from what I remembered. Now after these server mergers, I see alot of people around. Still not as many as there were, but a healthy amount. Enough to feel like there IS a population. And if they are all lagging, thats rough. I don't lag at all.
But I am sure most of them are just vets kickin the trial around. I doubt I will actually start paying again. But who knows, stranger things have happened.
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Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Boom headshot.
forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m
Hmm interesting. Good find, but I haven't been experiencing lag. Guess I am the lucky one.
So when can I expect an apology for insunuating that I'm a liar?
He's very sorry you're a jerk. Is there anything people won't blame the NGE for? Think not.
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Boom headshot.
forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m
Hmm interesting. Good find, but I haven't been experiencing lag. Guess I am the lucky one.
So when can I expect an apology for insunuating that I'm a liar?
He's very sorry you're a jerk. Is there anything people won't blame the NGE for? Think not.
You can call me a jerk as long as you acknowledge that I'm right.
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Ummmm...yeah. I just came from the SWG forums and was reading a thread about the lag on servers even after the server merge.
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
Ummmm...yeah. I just came from the SWG forums and was reading a thread about the lag on servers even after the server merge.
In some of the "to" galaxies, lag has been so bad that one of the instances has become nigh on unbeatable at certain times. In the EK instance, in part of the final battle, you must switch elemental damage types every 5 seconds on a particular boss, or the boss wipes everyone out. Well, the lag spikes are getting so bad in there, that people miss a change on the damage type and by the time the client catches up, the group is already half wiped.
There is another screenshot of a medic area rezing themselves, because lag was so bad between the time they threw it and the time the server processed it.
Thankfully, with the vet trial, people can go see the horror for themselves without having to sponsor the production of The Agency.
Prime reason right here I attempt to avoid reading the forums here, but this one plucked a nerve. Where are these reports coming from of unplayable lag? And I dare anyone go to the Official forums right now and attempt to find threads of total distaster umong the servers.
I have played more in the past 3 weeks, and have experienced more content than when I first joined. Players are everywhere, PVP is rampant, and I usually take on 2 to 3 instant heroics a day with full groups.
If anything the server merge was a complete lack of failure.
There's enough of it on the official forums, pvp is suffering the wost- almost everyone gets a 2+ minute delay on each attack. But in general it's laggy on places like Starsider, Chimaera and Flurry. Back in 2004, Bria was suffering huge lag and server-wide crashes on a daily basis, they recieved a hardware upgrade- however with the state of SWG today, I don't know if upgrading the current servers fits in the skeleton staff's budget.
I'm playing on Starsider now and I'm not having any lag problems like the others are talking about. The closest I've come is at the Emp's Retreat. For some reason it always shows Heavy Activity there even when it's just me and the NPC's. Other than that nothing, not in space, the last big event weekend, Theed, Mos Eisley ...... nada.
What does seem to hit is the server drops. I won't say crashes as it only seems to boot a few people at a time. Sun night in space it kicked my son, but not me and we've had cases where it's my wife decorating but not me fighting.
As to the OP: I don't think the merges were a failure since the purpose seems to have been 'to move from a under pop server to a more pop one' and from asking around that seems to be exactly what happened. Are the mergers stressing the old / aging servers? Oh yea and no one I've talked to thinks this is going to fix the root problem that made them do the mergers in the first place.
SWG (pre-cu) - AoC (pre-f2p) - PotBS (pre-boarder) - DDO - LotRO (pre-f2p) - STO (pre-f2p) - GnH (beta tester) - SWTOR - Neverwinter
i have a toon on starsider too after i moved my characters over, i have 0 lag, even in eisley, where it is always packed.
You know why this happens? Because SOE always takes the easy and cheap road. Instead of merging the servers properly and ensuring it will run smoothly (even at the idiotic NGE speeds), they issued free transfers for people to do their job.
Now you will have new players (if there are any) who might unknowingly create toons on ghost servers and will have to pay to transfer (I can see the frustration there) whilst everyone else plays on lag infested servers.
Surprised anyone?
Lag is most tiem caused by crapy computers and nasty ISP. I live in the very ass of the world , Canary Islands and in the oldest and populated of the servers BRIA and never, not even in the 100 vs 100 pvp events use to have less than 20-25 FPS and in normal gameplay 30 FPS.
Is true that for unknow reasons many pple use to have episodes of unexplicable LAG , but dont las for more than one hour or till the servers are reset. For me and many other euro players the play experience since 2 years till the present day is free from lag.
The old Pre-CU impossible to play game has long forgotten, I can remenber, how Anchorhead was the only city I could visit pre CU.
That not means lag doesnt exist just , is a issue that affects a very small part of the population. Of course the prophets of doom will say this is a lie and blah blah blah.
Ah my comp is a 2400 Quad core pentium with 4 Gb ram , and it helps alot. Also a dual ATI videocard , lol.
Go buy a better computer!
Cartoon-low-computer-crap-games-like-WoW will not last forever!
Chimaera, high pop, NO lag. Even when I use Fraps I have NO lag.
My computer? Win XP, Nvidia 8800, 4GB Ram, 3,2 GHz and so on... normal.. nothing extra.. or special about it...
Blizzard is laughing all the way to the bank.
Its funny...I used to be able to play SWG on an Intel PIII with a 64mb video card and participate in large scale PvP with no problems.
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
Ive been a SOE hater for a long time but am playing SWG again.
I am on Chimaera which is packed all day long and do not expereince any of this lag you mention but then again I have real computer and am not trying to play on a crap onboard graphic's laptop.
Newsflash .. SOE is Lame! SOE has done it's best, and has thus far succeeded, in making SWG just as lame.
I am sure the 40+ page thread on the oh-so-holy official forums are full of people that are lagging because they have "crappy" computers too....
Yeah....
That is so much more plausible than SOE pooching it......