Since Hellgate London only lasted about 14 months before servers and forum closed permanently. 8 months after release Flagship Studios stopped subscriptions when it became clear they were going bankrupt.
I think that's a clear winner. Darkfall hasn't been released yet to even be included in this vote. As for the rest they still exist with a low playerbase. Hellgate does not. But hey let the ignoramuses vote as they please
Darkfall will be released in 5 days and we already know the bulk about it.
You know dick. Even if it fails at launch it could very possible be around for years. Other failed mmorpgs has. Since it hasn't been released or given time to prove itself. The option is retarded and more added for trolling purposes than anything else. You know it, i know it. Why else post a general question in the Darkfall section.
no...i dont think the option is retarded. the reason failed MMOs are still around is because those devs are having a hard time letting them go. DF will be the same way. it will be more dead AND worse than lets say SWG, but i am sure AV and tacos will be calling it a huge hit.
Since people are still playing those games they are far from dead. If they are worth playing or low populated is irrelevant. I'm willing to bet they still make money. I'll gladly explain how a low populated game can still create an income if that confuses you. Hellgate London does not have an online option anymore making that a clear winner.
Only very small few people still play those games, most of gamers that play them are very old players to the game and developed friend ships with others and made a small community inviting friends. Just cause the game is still being played does not mean the game isnt a epic failure. Hell even some people played Sims online for a long time
The game were failures in the sense they missed the mark by a large margin. Over time lost many subscribers only sustaining a fraction of the playerbase. However that does not make them dead. Dead is dead. Server closed down unable to play dead. The games like Vanguard still generate an income because the company has downsized manpower and servers to the point where it is an actual income instead of an expense. Feel free to call them dead but that is not correct or even close. Hellgate London is Dead. More dead than anything on that list. Wish to dispute that?
A disaster does not = dead. I am sure the creators of vanguard wish vanguard was not in its current position.
I certainly agree. Disaster = Disaster for the entire community. We are in the MMO community, and I don't believe that a single MMO to date has rocked the entire gaming world. When I think of disaster, I think of the hurricane in new orleans. It effected all the people in new orleans, but it didn't effect (for example) people in new york who have no friends, relatives, or loved ones there. Maybe change disaster to... Failure.
Fury should be on that list. That's what I would have voted for.
Sidenote: Fury was such a failure that many people don't even remember it, or have never even heard of it. It was wiped off the face of the earth it was so bad.
Since Hellgate London only lasted about 14 months before servers and forum closed permanently. 8 months after release Flagship Studios stopped subscriptions when it became clear they were going bankrupt.
I think that's a clear winner. Darkfall hasn't been released yet to even be included in this vote. As for the rest they still exist with a low playerbase. Hellgate does not. But hey let the ignoramuses vote as they please
Darkfall will be released in 5 days and we already know the bulk about it.
You know dick. Even if it fails at launch it could very possible be around for years. Other failed mmorpgs has. Since it hasn't been released or given time to prove itself. The option is retarded and more added for trolling purposes than anything else. You know it, i know it. Why else post a general question in the Darkfall section.
no...i dont think the option is retarded. the reason failed MMOs are still around is because those devs are having a hard time letting them go. DF will be the same way. it will be more dead AND worse than lets say SWG, but i am sure AV and tacos will be calling it a huge hit.
Since people are still playing those games they are far from dead. If they are worth playing or low populated is irrelevant. I'm willing to bet they still make money. I'll gladly explain how a low populated game can still create an income if that confuses you. Hellgate London does not have an online option anymore making that a clear winner.
Only very small few people still play those games, most of gamers that play them are very old players to the game and developed friend ships with others and made a small community inviting friends. Just cause the game is still being played does not mean the game isnt a epic failure. Hell even some people played Sims online for a long time
The game were failures in the sense they missed the mark by a large margin. Over time lost many subscribers only sustaining a fraction of the playerbase. However that does not make them dead. Dead is dead. Server closed down unable to play dead. The games like Vanguard still generate an income because the company has downsized manpower and servers to the point where it is an actual income instead of an expense. Feel free to call them dead but that is not correct or even close. Hellgate London is Dead. More dead than anything on that list. Wish to dispute that?
A disaster does not = dead. I am sure the creators of vanguard wish vanguard was not in its current position.
The creators haven't been involved in Vanguard for a long time. It was bought out by Sony after it failed. Sony knew they bought a lemon but believed they could make money on it from what was left. All they had to do was downsize to make it an income. The first thing they did was kill off most of the servers. Nobody is disputing it was a disaster. I have still not heard anyone disputing Hellgate is the biggest loser of the bunch since there is no online play anymore. And this after only 14 months.
Regardless. Vanguard was a contrast to Hellgate London. Difference is Vanguard being alive and earning income.
Fury should be on that list. That's what I would have voted for.
Sidenote: Fury was such a failure that many people don't even remember it, or have never even heard of it. It was wiped off the face of the earth it was so bad.
Hah i remember that lovely title. I beta tested it for a bit, I kinda liked the adrenaline rush gameplay. The game was released and it was completely different.
I think the hellgate:London thing is due to the fact it was a single player game with a multiplayer part to it. It wasn't really a true MMORPG.
True. It was Bill Roper that claimed it was a MMO although it was clearly an ARPG. But since it's up there...and i didn't add it. The others can't really compete. People will be voting with their feelings. Not facts
To all the ass hats here giving me the run around saying I dont know this i dont know that, You are obviously new to the mmorpg scene, I have been around mmos for a long time now, I seen them come and seen them go, Darkfall is no different.
You sir, and an idiot. I would expect an idiot like you to know more about failures seeing as you are1 yourself.
Darkfall will be a very sucessful NICHE game. I have been in beta for months. I loved it, as did many others. Granted there were several who didnt like it. But they never claimed it was for everyone, in fact , its been quite refreshing hearing the devs say repeatedly this game isnt for everyone.
EQ2 was not the game for me, but saying it is a failure and belongs on your list is incredibly dumb.
You say you've been around for a long time. But , you registered on MMorpg.com just a coupe months ago? Not very convincing. However, the clear exhibit A to your failure as a old schooler is your list of "failures" and some of its glaring omissions.
Tabula Rosa - 1 of the most expensive MMOs ever made. Released within the last couple years and is now free to play.
AC2 - followup to 1 of the most popular niche games ever in the industry. Was less popular that the original 1 month after release. How this isnt on your list is beyond me.
Auto Assault - another NCsoft failure.
DDO - using the dungeon and dragons namesake for this garbage was also truly epic fail.
You can't give it to anything other than SWG, that will always be remembered as the biggest disaster from start to end. Dark N Light wasn't a big disaster because the only people that cared about it were the forum crying fanbois.
Sorry OP but all the true Disasters are not around anymore.
Age of Conan and Vanguard (together with AO and a few other games) had a extremly bad launch but they still have enough players to go around. So no disaster.
The biggest disaster would probably be Tabula Rasa in my opinion. So much money and experienced devs and still the game was dead within a year.
I been around since Meridian 59 myself and seen many games come and go, but the only true disaster on your list is Dark and light.
I still have to vote AC2. Like was said, was one of the most anticipated sequals in MMO history, and failed miserably just a few months after release. And even with MS to back them up, after a 3 year run, it never recovered and was shut down.
To all the ass hats here giving me the run around saying I dont know this i dont know that, You are obviously new to the mmorpg scene, I have been around mmos for a long time now, I seen them come and seen them go, Darkfall is no different.
Oh, so you're a longterm troll? Do you have a secret handshake? Is this sort of e-trolling your alternative to touching a woman, since you've "been around a long time now" and all?
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
I'd vote Tabula Rasa. Simply because it eclipses all the other titles' combined development budgets and fell down flat on its face with the loudest thud possible.
To all the ass hats here giving me the run around saying I dont know this i dont know that, You are obviously new to the mmorpg scene, I have been around mmos for a long time now, I seen them come and seen them go, Darkfall is no different.
Calling out others as asshats when you've made a short list that has successful games on it?
You left most of the worst launches ever and actual huge failures off the list! Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Matrix Online, Auto Assult, WW2 Online, Horizons, Tabula Rasa....
Darkfall is what it is, an small time indie throwback game created for a small niche audience. It's not a AAA game and never will be, regardless if the inflated ego's of the rabid fanbase or the the developer itself want to see it there.
-Myth- ___________________________________________________ Illusion masquerading as metaphor in the guise of legend
Going to just say the obvious: You do realize only two of those games are failures right? The rest are still alive and kicking and are in NO WAY failures. If you want to call them failures, I'd love you to go say that to all the thousands of people still playing each one and enjoying the hell out of them and their game-world.
So between Dark and Light and Hellgate London? I'd say Dark and Light was more of a failure since Hellgate at least saw a "AAA" retail release and had pretty decent marketing.
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Darkfall will be released in 5 days and we already know the bulk about it.
You know dick. Even if it fails at launch it could very possible be around for years. Other failed mmorpgs has. Since it hasn't been released or given time to prove itself. The option is retarded and more added for trolling purposes than anything else. You know it, i know it. Why else post a general question in the Darkfall section.
no...i dont think the option is retarded. the reason failed MMOs are still around is because those devs are having a hard time letting them go. DF will be the same way. it will be more dead AND worse than lets say SWG, but i am sure AV and tacos will be calling it a huge hit.
Since people are still playing those games they are far from dead. If they are worth playing or low populated is irrelevant. I'm willing to bet they still make money. I'll gladly explain how a low populated game can still create an income if that confuses you. Hellgate London does not have an online option anymore making that a clear winner.
Only very small few people still play those games, most of gamers that play them are very old players to the game and developed friend ships with others and made a small community inviting friends. Just cause the game is still being played does not mean the game isnt a epic failure. Hell even some people played Sims online for a long time
The game were failures in the sense they missed the mark by a large margin. Over time lost many subscribers only sustaining a fraction of the playerbase. However that does not make them dead. Dead is dead. Server closed down unable to play dead. The games like Vanguard still generate an income because the company has downsized manpower and servers to the point where it is an actual income instead of an expense. Feel free to call them dead but that is not correct or even close. Hellgate London is Dead. More dead than anything on that list. Wish to dispute that?
A disaster does not = dead. I am sure the creators of vanguard wish vanguard was not in its current position.
I certainly agree. Disaster = Disaster for the entire community. We are in the MMO community, and I don't believe that a single MMO to date has rocked the entire gaming world. When I think of disaster, I think of the hurricane in new orleans. It effected all the people in new orleans, but it didn't effect (for example) people in new york who have no friends, relatives, or loved ones there. Maybe change disaster to... Failure.
Fury should be on that list. That's what I would have voted for.
Sidenote: Fury was such a failure that many people don't even remember it, or have never even heard of it. It was wiped off the face of the earth it was so bad.
Sidenote2: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_(computer_game) for your reading pleasure
"Good people are good because they've come to wisdom through failure. We get very little wisdom from success, you know." William Saroyan
Darkfall will be released in 5 days and we already know the bulk about it.
You know dick. Even if it fails at launch it could very possible be around for years. Other failed mmorpgs has. Since it hasn't been released or given time to prove itself. The option is retarded and more added for trolling purposes than anything else. You know it, i know it. Why else post a general question in the Darkfall section.
no...i dont think the option is retarded. the reason failed MMOs are still around is because those devs are having a hard time letting them go. DF will be the same way. it will be more dead AND worse than lets say SWG, but i am sure AV and tacos will be calling it a huge hit.
Since people are still playing those games they are far from dead. If they are worth playing or low populated is irrelevant. I'm willing to bet they still make money. I'll gladly explain how a low populated game can still create an income if that confuses you. Hellgate London does not have an online option anymore making that a clear winner.
Only very small few people still play those games, most of gamers that play them are very old players to the game and developed friend ships with others and made a small community inviting friends. Just cause the game is still being played does not mean the game isnt a epic failure. Hell even some people played Sims online for a long time
The game were failures in the sense they missed the mark by a large margin. Over time lost many subscribers only sustaining a fraction of the playerbase. However that does not make them dead. Dead is dead. Server closed down unable to play dead. The games like Vanguard still generate an income because the company has downsized manpower and servers to the point where it is an actual income instead of an expense. Feel free to call them dead but that is not correct or even close. Hellgate London is Dead. More dead than anything on that list. Wish to dispute that?
A disaster does not = dead. I am sure the creators of vanguard wish vanguard was not in its current position.
The creators haven't been involved in Vanguard for a long time. It was bought out by Sony after it failed. Sony knew they bought a lemon but believed they could make money on it from what was left. All they had to do was downsize to make it an income. The first thing they did was kill off most of the servers. Nobody is disputing it was a disaster. I have still not heard anyone disputing Hellgate is the biggest loser of the bunch since there is no online play anymore. And this after only 14 months.
Regardless. Vanguard was a contrast to Hellgate London. Difference is Vanguard being alive and earning income.
Hah i remember that lovely title. I beta tested it for a bit, I kinda liked the adrenaline rush gameplay. The game was released and it was completely different.
I think the hellgate:London thing is due to the fact it was a single player game with a multiplayer part to it. It wasn't really a true MMORPG.
True. It was Bill Roper that claimed it was a MMO although it was clearly an ARPG. But since it's up there...and i didn't add it. The others can't really compete. People will be voting with their feelings. Not facts
You sir, and an idiot. I would expect an idiot like you to know more about failures seeing as you are1 yourself.
Darkfall will be a very sucessful NICHE game. I have been in beta for months. I loved it, as did many others. Granted there were several who didnt like it. But they never claimed it was for everyone, in fact , its been quite refreshing hearing the devs say repeatedly this game isnt for everyone.
EQ2 was not the game for me, but saying it is a failure and belongs on your list is incredibly dumb.
You say you've been around for a long time. But , you registered on MMorpg.com just a coupe months ago? Not very convincing. However, the clear exhibit A to your failure as a old schooler is your list of "failures" and some of its glaring omissions.
Tabula Rosa - 1 of the most expensive MMOs ever made. Released within the last couple years and is now free to play.
AC2 - followup to 1 of the most popular niche games ever in the industry. Was less popular that the original 1 month after release. How this isnt on your list is beyond me.
Auto Assault - another NCsoft failure.
DDO - using the dungeon and dragons namesake for this garbage was also truly epic fail.
I could go on...
You can't give it to anything other than SWG, that will always be remembered as the biggest disaster from start to end. Dark N Light wasn't a big disaster because the only people that cared about it were the forum crying fanbois.
Sorry OP but all the true Disasters are not around anymore.
Age of Conan and Vanguard (together with AO and a few other games) had a extremly bad launch but they still have enough players to go around. So no disaster.
The biggest disaster would probably be Tabula Rasa in my opinion. So much money and experienced devs and still the game was dead within a year.
I been around since Meridian 59 myself and seen many games come and go, but the only true disaster on your list is Dark and light.
not to be picky, but why'd you decide to put this in the Darkfall forums?
I still have to vote AC2. Like was said, was one of the most anticipated sequals in MMO history, and failed miserably just a few months after release. And even with MS to back them up, after a 3 year run, it never recovered and was shut down.
Now, that, is failure...
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Oh, so you're a longterm troll? Do you have a secret handshake? Is this sort of e-trolling your alternative to touching a woman, since you've "been around a long time now" and all?
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I'd vote Tabula Rasa. Simply because it eclipses all the other titles' combined development budgets and fell down flat on its face with the loudest thud possible.
voted for potbs simply becuase i just dont understand how game about pirates and with so much money could go so horribly wrong
everything else tried to do something standard and thus simply fell by the wayside instead of being a disaster
Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!
Hellgate London, such a great game with such a "tragic" life..
Calling out others as asshats when you've made a short list that has successful games on it?
You left most of the worst launches ever and actual huge failures off the list! Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Matrix Online, Auto Assult, WW2 Online, Horizons, Tabula Rasa....
Darkfall is what it is, an small time indie throwback game created for a small niche audience. It's not a AAA game and never will be, regardless if the inflated ego's of the rabid fanbase or the the developer itself want to see it there.
-Myth-
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This belongs in the general section, not Darkfall forum, unless its a troll post.
In which case it doesnt belong anywhere.
I reported it, let the mods sort it out.
In anycase I voted for Hellgate london, any MMO that has a player wipe AFTER LAUNCH gets my undivided indignity.
-Darkstar
I see a lot of people picking Hellgate: London... I thought Dark-and-Light went up in smoke just as spectacularly?
Going to just say the obvious: You do realize only two of those games are failures right? The rest are still alive and kicking and are in NO WAY failures. If you want to call them failures, I'd love you to go say that to all the thousands of people still playing each one and enjoying the hell out of them and their game-world.
So between Dark and Light and Hellgate London? I'd say Dark and Light was more of a failure since Hellgate at least saw a "AAA" retail release and had pretty decent marketing.
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disaster? only two of those games were shut down
thats what I call a disaster
you didnt list other failed mmos that were shutdown
Asherons Call 2
Auto Assault
Earth and Beyond
The Sims Online
Tabula Rasa
EQ2 fan sites
darkfall has failure written all over it and not to mention how completely crappy terrible it looks after being worked on so many years epic fail
Where is tabula rasa? It is not everything a game flushes $100M down the toilet.
i stil lsay DnL or Mourning are the top 2, but mourning appeared to be a scam more than a disaster.
I was a pre orderer of DnL Sog.. but looking at Darkfall gives me DnL shivers.. it's so similar looking / sounding / acting..
you can get free software if you played mourning in the past
http://abyssalengine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29