I would have done this on the official forums but since they are down for the foreseeable future, I opted to post here. I mean, we have mods from the official forums posting here too, so I figure it's the next best place, right?
And yes when I post sometimes I am bitter about it and that can show through prior posts. I would have liked to be part of beta and helped them fix the things that were wrong, but unfortunately that wasn't to be. I've calmed down since then, and now I can post an apology for helping to create the trolls that I now seem to be at times (in the "anti AV" sense of troll).
I am not going to lie and say that I wouldn't laugh a bit in irony if the game died a horrible death. I won't. But to think that I followed the game for 7 years and led myself to believe it was awesomesauce is only a lesson I want to pass on after DF, because Mortal Online is next and I don't want people to do the same stupid shit I did and cause even more trolling, and high expectations, and even more -- people lowering their expectations to let a game match them.
We should all have high standards and stick to them. Principles only mean something if you stick by them when they are INCONVENIENT.
Right. But your post is saying sorry for forcing Darkfall on people, but you have never done anything eve n close to that here. You were going to post it on the main forums? Did you force Darkfall on people at the main forums as well? Lol. Just stop.
I am here to apologise to a lot of you guys for the behavior I've probably exhibited in many places (not here often). I was registered with the DF Forums since November of 2002, and followed the game since then. Every so often I'd check back with any juicy updates, and with any new information I would spam them to my guild, my friends in real life (some of whom played WoW or whatever), and on different forums. And for my spamming and pushing of this game, I am sorry.
Why am I sorry, you might ask? Well for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which was my entry into beta. I am part of the reason that trolls for this game reason even exist. If I hadn't pushed it to everybody, there wouldn't be such a backlash. I pushed the game before I knew what it was about, and how it really worked. And to whom did I push it? First to my guild -- who are mostly ex UO players and were all ready for a good PvP game now that UO was patched into uselessness. Some more were other MMO players, whom were looking for something different. And a lot more, and from where the trolls spawn, are people that didn't care, or had more realistic expectations of what the game would be. Some of these folks went on to enjoy Darkfall as it was in beta, and others hated it. And the folks who didn't get into beta and read about it from fanboys like me just got annoyed and irritated, and rooted for the game's failure.
Beta was a mixed bag. I got into beta early January of 09, and immediately began downloading the patches, going crazy installing, eagerly waiting my chance to play. I had waited for 7 years for this game, and I wasn't about to let another second pass me by. After finally patching and launching, and the servers being up -- I launched the game to find it completely unplayable because of the lag. I was informed to turn off shadows (which I did), and the game state changed to something drastically usable and reasonably stable as well. Then again, my system was pretty good to run it as well. I was getting good FPS and ping around 100, which was not too bad. And then began my journey to find out about the PvP game I had waited so long for.
I played for a few hours the first day until the servers crashed and was really enthralled with the goblin AI, the first person point of view for archery and magic, and more. By the second day when I got home from work, I logged in again, having read all day at the forums at work I came home expecting to kick some serious butt since we were all pretty new at the game. I was on IRC throughout the day earlier too, telling my guild that the game was awesome, and I was having a blast. They were all intrigued too, and some started more eagerly awaiting their beta receipts. I logged on again, and now with a fresh look and tons of forum information, I started to play. And then I started to realize the things that made me a little uneasy. The animations were bad. Really bad. The sound effects were worse than Starcraft. Still though, a game wasn't made by graphics, or sound, was it? I found that when I ran up a hill I'd often "float" in the middle of the air. Beta problems, I assumed. They will be fixed. Then I got to kill some more goblins and after they got low on health, they started running away... here comes that awesome AI I thought, and then I stood watch as the goblin ran around in a retarded circle with no rhyme or reason. It was starting to settle in, that the game wasn't very polished.
Days came and went, and daily I'd submit bug reports, go into the forums and post about what needed fixing -- things like adding hotkeys for the map and backpack, or making the UI a little more utilitarian and less awkward. Things like how the towns didn't have finished content and that you'd run up stairs only to be tossed into a WALL, and would have to run back down to get off. And all this time, I came to defend the game when it was being ridiculed, when the early beta leaks came out and showed some poorly done feature. It's in beta guys I said, they have it in debug mode and the monsters aren't all turned on. And it hit me, that who was I lying to? Them, or myself? I am by profession an IT manager, dealing with systems and software deployments in a financial firm. "Debug mode"? What did that mean to me? And I would think about it -- debug mode means we turn on verbose logging. When we are beta testing, the features are all there because the end user needs to see the full product. And slowly I resolved to be a harsher tester than I was before, and giving the harsh feedback that needed to be given.
It started almost two weeks later that I came to that point -- playing a few hours a day I never really thought much about the combat because it was almost an afterthought. But seeing players macroing ingame on a regular basis, and how I lagged behind I was reminded of the worst parts of UO. And I realized then that this game makes you macro because there's really no way to earn it "by playing the game". The combat I finally realized, was bland and lifeless, the real skill in the game being 'organized' rather than anything else. A well organized group would lead others into hitting each other and killing themselves. The game mechanics like the rogue system were poor, and magic was a humungous grind. Not to say I couldn't macro it up like everybody else... I just felt it was a poorly implemented system. The one thing that really led me to quit was when a guildmate got into beta and asked, "How's the PvP compared to UO?", and I couldn't at that point sell out what I believe to still be the best PvP in ANY game. I told him flatly, "it sucks". The game would be fun for a while if you had a guild, but the lifeless PvP really ruined the game. A sandbox game is great, and DF has the elements it needs there -- but PvP is useless and boring and if it's not immediately, it will soon become stale. I'm not much of a "city sieger" because Shadowbane taught me early that I have to give up my social life in order to defend the town, so I didn't care much for that. I wanted open world PvP, duels, guild fights, etc. This game would simply not support it.
Now on launch day (or launch+1 at this point), I reflect back to think about how much I trolled the folks who were not looking to be trolled by a game I didn't even know that much about. Sure, some people will enjoy it, and those people largely come from anything OTHER than UO, and the ones who liked it in UO are usually part of a large guild (SUN comes to mind during the beta) because they are organized and do well. I can understand that. I am here to apologize for all the stupidity I let out in defending the game before I knew what it was, but a good lesson to be learned here is that I need to have far lower expectations for a game, and be untrusting and biased AGAINST the developer if I want to see a game actually try to appease the end user. I won't even go into how bad the PR or communication has been with AV, I think we all know it. I'm just here to say I learned my lesson and now as I turn my sights to Mortal Online I'll keep a bias that I didn't have with DF, lest I be disappointed or dishonest with myself, or become a troll and an annoyance to others.
"Jeez man, they aren't looking too good. I saw a few the other day and some folks think the game is awesome and I'm looking at the same screens and saying "really?" This is a matter of opinion over graphics, I was in this original thread. He merely states his opinion that some people think the graphics are great, while he thinks otherwise. Course I don't know a sane person alive that will say DF has "Next Gen" 2009 graphics. So he was right about this.
There are some negative ones too, search under "DFLeaker" on Youtube... I'm just amazed that they think this game is ready for anything. It looks boring." This is a troll
"Doesn't anybody realize that they have a LIMITED RELEASE, in order to meet the demand that they said they can handle? This is a defense post, I read the original posting.
It pretty much means that Tasos is totally full of shit and happy to take your money from you. It's so bad that they seem to be creating accounts BY HAND. It means they had no system in place to automatically process these things, the account management is a joke, etc.This was the truth at the time, I read this original post as well. He wasn't trolling just stating a fact.
I like the excuses but the vast majority is what they said they could handle and thus, limited the # of preorders. They only announced preorder a few days before LAUNCH. This is also a defensive post for DF, making excuses for them in regards to AV not being able to handle the users, which we all now now is true because of the launch.
This is shaping up to be EPIC EPIC fail. I'll bet on another day of downtime before some people give up and cancel their pre-order, and then finally it will be up. This is more than likely true, I am sure after yesterdays cluster F^*&( people just said screw it.
Two months or so until total fail. Then it will truly be epic fail." This is merely an opinion, but will more than likely come to pass.
"I knew this launch was going to be epic fail... This is truth.
All in all Strongaxe, you should really just keep quiet, if your rose colored glasses got any thicker, you wouldn't be able to hold your head up anymore.
Price of a Darkfall Pre-Order... $50 Dollars
Price to play the game a month.... $15 Dollars
Price of decent forum a month... $300 Dollars
Price of Darkfall fans not having a honest come back.... Priceless
"Jeez man, they aren't looking too good. I saw a few the other day and some folks think the game is awesome and I'm looking at the same screens and saying "really?" This is a matter of opinion over graphics, I was in this original thread. He merely states his opinion that some people think the graphics are great, while he thinks otherwise. Course I don't know a sane person alive that will say DF has "Next Gen" 2009 graphics. So he was right about this. There are some negative ones too, search under "DFLeaker" on Youtube... I'm just amazed that they think this game is ready for anything. It looks boring." This is a troll
"Doesn't anybody realize that they have a LIMITED RELEASE, in order to meet the demand that they said they can handle? This is a defense post, I read the original posting. It pretty much means that Tasos is totally full of shit and happy to take your money from you. It's so bad that they seem to be creating accounts BY HAND. It means they had no system in place to automatically process these things, the account management is a joke, etc.This was the truth at the time, I read this original post as well. He wasn't trolling just stating a fact. I like the excuses but the vast majority is what they said they could handle and thus, limited the # of preorders. They only announced preorder a few days before LAUNCH. This is also a defensive post for DF, making excuses for them in regards to AV not being able to handle the users, which we all now now is true because of the launch. This is shaping up to be EPIC EPIC fail. I'll bet on another day of downtime before some people give up and cancel their pre-order, and then finally it will be up. This is more than likely true, I am sure after yesterdays cluster F^*&( people just said screw it. Two months or so until total fail. Then it will truly be epic fail." This is merely an opinion, but will more than likely come to pass.
"I knew this launch was going to be epic fail... This is truth.
All in all Strongaxe, you should really just keep quiet, if your rose colored glasses got any thicker, you wouldn't be able to hold your head up anymore.
Whoosh. Someone missed the point. This whole thread is about him apologizing for his "fanboy behavior". I was showing that he cleary exhibited no fanboy behavior on this website.
I would have done this on the official forums but since they are down for the foreseeable future, I opted to post here. I mean, we have mods from the official forums posting here too, so I figure it's the next best place, right?
And yes when I post sometimes I am bitter about it and that can show through prior posts. I would have liked to be part of beta and helped them fix the things that were wrong, but unfortunately that wasn't to be. I've calmed down since then, and now I can post an apology for helping to create the trolls that I now seem to be at times (in the "anti AV" sense of troll).
I am not going to lie and say that I wouldn't laugh a bit in irony if the game died a horrible death. I won't. But to think that I followed the game for 7 years and led myself to believe it was awesomesauce is only a lesson I want to pass on after DF, because Mortal Online is next and I don't want people to do the same stupid shit I did and cause even more trolling, and high expectations, and even more -- people lowering their expectations to let a game match them.
We should all have high standards and stick to them. Principles only mean something if you stick by them when they are INCONVENIENT.
I don't get you people.Why not just make a thread saying 'Look I played beta , didn't like game, I am moving on'. Why do you think that people ahere are stoopid enough to believe your ' I was a fanboy, sorry trolls for making you sad pandas crapfest'? Not dramatic enough? Wouldn't pay the bill?
I haven't played darkfall, and I probably never will , since I don't like pvp. Yet I root for adventurine to suceed. Maybe it will give a kick to major companies ass, so they start making better , more original games, instead of fighting each other who will make the best retarded wow clone they possibly can.
Wait what? You should be apologizing to the people that you trolled, not the trolls. Go to whatever other game forums you posted on and apologize to the people that are minding their own business, not people that are just as bad as you were(as far as trolling goes). This post doesnt make much sense in the context it was given.
Also sorry Darkfall is not for you. And your comment about UO fans not liking DF is a joke. Every single UO friend I have kept in contact with that was in beta liked the game (4), and the others want to play.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Wait what? You should be apologizing to the people that you trolled, not the trolls. Go to whatever other game forums you posted on and apologize to the people that are minding their own business, not people that are just as bad as you were(as far as trolling goes). This post doesnt make much sense in the context it was given.
Also sorry Darkfall is not for you. And your comment about UO fans not liking DF is a joke. Every single UO friend I have kept in contact with that was in beta liked the game (4), and the others want to play.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Haha you have not played Darkfall though, and you are going to play with me anyways so.
Strongaxe, you are not good at reading so I'll say it for you slowly..
The main game forums are down.
I can't post there.
People from the main forums are posting HERE.
I posted here as a result.
Okay?
Thanks.
Read my post. So you are going to apologize on the Darkfall forums for forcing Darkfall on people with your fanboism? On the Darkfall forums? Where people talk about Darkfall and how much they cant wait for Darkfall to come out so they can play Darkfall?
You are right. You really were wrong for forcing Darkfall on all the people at the Darkfall forums.
Wait what? You should be apologizing to the people that you trolled, not the trolls. Go to whatever other game forums you posted on and apologize to the people that are minding their own business, not people that are just as bad as you were(as far as trolling goes). This post doesnt make much sense in the context it was given.
Also sorry Darkfall is not for you. And your comment about UO fans not liking DF is a joke. Every single UO friend I have kept in contact with that was in beta liked the game (4), and the others want to play.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Haha you have not played Darkfall though, and you are going to play with me anyways so.
You sir, just blew your responses all to hell. You do not have information on who did and did not beta test therefore assumptions cannot be proven either way. And yes, they are telling you to learn some comprehension skills and its showing that you need to improve upon that.
Playing: Not much actively. Games played: to many to list, been playing MMO's since 2001 --------------------------
Hercules: I checked your post history in these boards and I found nothing in contradiction with what you said.
May be you don’t need to apologize here but I understand you want to do it because DF forums are still down.
Don’t care about the fanbois around they are crazy these days doing more damage to the game in few hours that all the trolls together in the past months. I’m not going to jump in the game at least not now. I’ll see in some months. But is fun to see how people train the FFA PvP in a text MMORPG.
You are not alone; I made the same mistake in my clan with AoC. I was blind by the advertising of Funcom, and lead them to a game that wasn’t what I expected it to be. I learned the lesson.
It’s always great to see mature behaviours in these boards. Good reading. Thanks for it.
Wait what? You should be apologizing to the people that you trolled, not the trolls. Go to whatever other game forums you posted on and apologize to the people that are minding their own business, not people that are just as bad as you were(as far as trolling goes). This post doesnt make much sense in the context it was given.
Also sorry Darkfall is not for you. And your comment about UO fans not liking DF is a joke. Every single UO friend I have kept in contact with that was in beta liked the game (4), and the others want to play.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Haha you have not played Darkfall though, and you are going to play with me anyways so.
Maybe.. probabley not. Ive told you why not but there are so many blind fans of this game that make up shit and compare it to UO when it clearly is not makes no sense. DF is DF, it's not even close to being UO. I don't have to play DF to know that. Can it succeed? yes, but right now they need to step up and act like a company. To me there is no difference between an indie company and a big time company when you charge the same price for a game as them.
This launch has been one of the worst I can remember, not mainly because of the gameplay because I cannot comment on that of course 100% but just from a PR standpoint it is beyond ridiculous.
Also the OP I believe was not only posting this for himself, but it can be tracked down to every single fanboi out there. You more than anyone I know have tried to force this game on everyone regardless of it being good or not. If it is so good then let it speak for itself instead. Anyone wonder why there are so many "trolls" on this game but so few on others? It's because the fanboys here have kept trying to force feed this game to them. People are stubborn and when looking at a game you should be skeptical. I don't care if WoW 2 came out or just DF, you have to look at the game with skeptisism and negativity and let the GAME change your mind, not the fanboys.
This is shaping up to be EPIC EPIC fail. I'll bet on another day of downtime before some people give up and cancel their pre-order, and then finally it will be up. This is more than likely true, I am sure after yesterdays cluster F^*&( people just said screw it.
Whoosh. Someone missed the point. This whole thread is about him apologizing for his "fanboy behavior". I was showing that he cleary exhibited no fanboy behavior on this website.
Well this one is coming to pass, just like he said it would.
Originally posted by Bimsemusen
Hi there,
I figured id see if anyone is willing to pay some money for a darkfall preorder account. Its a confirmed preorder account, meaning ive gotten the mail stating the 3 euro charge, but I havent gotten the 45 euro charge yet.
Im just sick of waiting, so if anybody comes with a decent offer, they can have it.
Oh and I can provide any amount and any kind of proof of the account being real in the form of screenshots.
___________
Maybe Herc should change his account name to Nostrodaumas
Price of a Darkfall Pre-Order... $50 Dollars
Price to play the game a month.... $15 Dollars
Price of decent forum a month... $300 Dollars
Price of Darkfall fans not having a honest come back.... Priceless
Your apologzing because YOU didnt like the game?? weird
He also said he didnt troll here much, yet he apologizes here. Wait what?
Some people need some serious reading comprehension skills.
His entire post is about how he was a blind zealot fan who would troll back against the trolls defending a game he knew little about.
The meat of his post is what he found to be the short comings of DF all the while still trying to sell the game to friends and guildmates, only to realize he was trying to sell them into a game he did not feel was as great as he initially made it out to be.
He came here to give a heart felt honest opinion on the game, and apologize to those who he battled against in his blind faith of DF.
The post was good, well thought out and articulate.
Good reading for anyone with basic reading comprehension skills.
"I am here to apologise to a lot of you guys for the behavior I've probably exhibited in many places (not here often)."
His first line. Some serious reading comprhension skills are indeed needed.
I am not good at reading comprehension, but my spider sense tells me that when someone who has been banned on a game's official forum, comes to a site ,where his posting history is mostly negative towards said game, to appologize for being a fanboy and defending said game....well you don't need a higher iq than Paris Hilton to see where I am going.
Agree, anyone can disguise himself as a fan, just like this OP did.
And saying old UO players dont enjoy the game isnt true.
100% of the old UO players in my guild will continue to play Darkfall after beta.
Whoosh. Someone missed the point. This whole thread is about him apologizing for his "fanboy behavior". I was showing that he cleary exhibited no fanboy behavior on this website.
THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE EVEN VIEWING THIS THREAD IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THE GAME. My God people, nobody cares about your little forum wars, this thread is useful because it provides information. Amazing how lost that concept is in a bulletin board of all places..Idiot (yes I had to edit just to add that)
Agree, anyone can disguise himself as a fan, just like this OP did. And saying old UO players dont enjoy the game isnt true. 100% of the old UO players in my guild will continue to play Darkfall after beta.
Sure, I can "disguise" myself as a fan. I would tell you to search my username in the main DF forums, but seeing as how they are down (and will probably be for a while), plus the fact that they were all deleted makes it rather irrelevant.
Old UO players can enjoy the game, but what you say in your third line makes the second more likely. If you're part of a large guild and you're organized, then the game can be fun. For a time. The main draw of combat in this game isn't that it takes any skill -- it doesn't -- and that's why UO is FAR superior as a PvP game to Darkfall. However, the group combat dynamic still exists in Darkfall, and since there is friendly fire, guilds who are organized will do well together.
But please don't come here and tell me that Darkfall takes any individual skill, or at least not in comparison to UO. Because it doesn't. And if you say it takes more skill than UO to play, then you never played UO in your life, or you came after it was patched to garbage.
The OPs post was too long but I did get to the part where he said that it was the pusihing of the product so hard that made people upset with him........This I have ot agree with......I dont think alot of us would have ever even noticed Darkfall if it wasnt for guys like him saying it was going to be the greatest game ever in every single post they made.......Its OK to be excited about a game but when you start saying things like its the best game ever then people are going to take notice and look at it more closely.......Whats funny is I'm sure Aion or TCoS or whatever game is coming next will have similar hype......It also doesnt help that so many gamers just cant wait a month or two after a game is released either.......It just seems that this hobby has alot of compulsive buyers that will just buy things because they are new.
You know people can check your posting history, don't you? If you wanna make a thread like this , better make a new account to post. Just sayin.
Here are some gems from this Darkfall "Fan":
"Jeez man, they aren't looking too good. I saw a few the other day and some folks think the game is awesome and I'm looking at the same screens and saying "really?"
There are some negative ones too, search under "DFLeaker" on Youtube... I'm just amazed that they think this game is ready for anything. It looks boring."
"Doesn't anybody realize that they have a LIMITED RELEASE, in order to meet the demand that they said they can handle?
It pretty much means that Tasos is totally full of shit and happy to take your money from you. It's so bad that they seem to be creating accounts BY HAND. It means they had no system in place to automatically process these things, the account management is a joke, etc.
I like the excuses but the vast majority is what they said they could handle and thus, limited the # of preorders. They only announced preorder a few days before LAUNCH.
This is shaping up to be EPIC EPIC fail. I'll bet on another day of downtime before some people give up and cancel their pre-order, and then finally it will be up.
Two months or so until total fail. Then it will truly be epic fail."
"I knew this launch was going to be epic fail...
I'm just waiting a little while longer before I make my "Epic Fail" signature files and put Aventurine/Darkfall stuff into it. I think it would be higher quality than the game is anyway "
Yeah it looks like he never made 1 positive post about Darkfall on these forums. Good thing you apologized for "hyping" Darkfall at the place you NEVER hyped it.
Whoosh. Someone missed the point. This whole thread is about him apologizing for his "fanboy behavior". I was showing that he cleary exhibited no fanboy behavior on this website.
THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE EVEN VIEWING THIS THREAD IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THE GAME. My God people, nobody cares about your little forum wars, this thread is useful because it provides information. Amazing how lost that concept is in a bulletin board of all places..Idiot (yes I had to edit just to add that)
The problem is that any negative opinion, no matter how well it is presented, gets shouted down by fanbois and the original poster gets branded as a troll.
The favorite tactic is to attempt to discredit the poster by any means possible. These petty people dig up old posts, look for any incinsistency and wave it around like a banner, all the while not realizing that no matter how much they shout and flame these so-called "trolls", it will not change the state of the game.
I would have done this on the official forums but since they are down for the foreseeable future, I opted to post here. I mean, we have mods from the official forums posting here too, so I figure it's the next best place, right?
And yes when I post sometimes I am bitter about it and that can show through prior posts. I would have liked to be part of beta and helped them fix the things that were wrong, but unfortunately that wasn't to be. I've calmed down since then, and now I can post an apology for helping to create the trolls that I now seem to be at times (in the "anti AV" sense of troll).
I am not going to lie and say that I wouldn't laugh a bit in irony if the game died a horrible death. I won't. But to think that I followed the game for 7 years and led myself to believe it was awesomesauce is only a lesson I want to pass on after DF, because Mortal Online is next and I don't want people to do the same stupid shit I did and cause even more trolling, and high expectations, and even more -- people lowering their expectations to let a game match them.
We should all have high standards and stick to them. Principles only mean something if you stick by them when they are INCONVENIENT.
Dude, take a break from gaming. Seriously, it's clearly causing some emotional distress for you... Just take a break for a while. Go outside and enjoy our lovely planet.
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i too am very sorry
Right. But your post is saying sorry for forcing Darkfall on people, but you have never done anything eve n close to that here. You were going to post it on the main forums? Did you force Darkfall on people at the main forums as well? Lol. Just stop.
Can i haz your stuff?
Here are some gems from this Darkfall "Fan":
"Jeez man, they aren't looking too good. I saw a few the other day and some folks think the game is awesome and I'm looking at the same screens and saying "really?" This is a matter of opinion over graphics, I was in this original thread. He merely states his opinion that some people think the graphics are great, while he thinks otherwise. Course I don't know a sane person alive that will say DF has "Next Gen" 2009 graphics. So he was right about this.
There are some negative ones too, search under "DFLeaker" on Youtube... I'm just amazed that they think this game is ready for anything. It looks boring." This is a troll
"Doesn't anybody realize that they have a LIMITED RELEASE, in order to meet the demand that they said they can handle? This is a defense post, I read the original posting.
It pretty much means that Tasos is totally full of shit and happy to take your money from you. It's so bad that they seem to be creating accounts BY HAND. It means they had no system in place to automatically process these things, the account management is a joke, etc.This was the truth at the time, I read this original post as well. He wasn't trolling just stating a fact.
I like the excuses but the vast majority is what they said they could handle and thus, limited the # of preorders. They only announced preorder a few days before LAUNCH. This is also a defensive post for DF, making excuses for them in regards to AV not being able to handle the users, which we all now now is true because of the launch.
This is shaping up to be EPIC EPIC fail. I'll bet on another day of downtime before some people give up and cancel their pre-order, and then finally it will be up. This is more than likely true, I am sure after yesterdays cluster F^*&( people just said screw it.
Two months or so until total fail. Then it will truly be epic fail." This is merely an opinion, but will more than likely come to pass.
"I knew this launch was going to be epic fail... This is truth.
All in all Strongaxe, you should really just keep quiet, if your rose colored glasses got any thicker, you wouldn't be able to hold your head up anymore.
Price of a Darkfall Pre-Order... $50 Dollars
Price to play the game a month.... $15 Dollars
Price of decent forum a month... $300 Dollars
Price of Darkfall fans not having a honest come back.... Priceless
For everything else use mastercard.
Finally, an honest opinion from some other than a raving fanboy
Very good reading for anyone wishing an HONEST opinion about the actual game
Whoosh. Someone missed the point. This whole thread is about him apologizing for his "fanboy behavior". I was showing that he cleary exhibited no fanboy behavior on this website.
I don't get you people.Why not just make a thread saying 'Look I played beta , didn't like game, I am moving on'. Why do you think that people ahere are stoopid enough to believe your ' I was a fanboy, sorry trolls for making you sad pandas crapfest'? Not dramatic enough? Wouldn't pay the bill?
I haven't played darkfall, and I probably never will , since I don't like pvp. Yet I root for adventurine to suceed. Maybe it will give a kick to major companies ass, so they start making better , more original games, instead of fighting each other who will make the best retarded wow clone they possibly can.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Strongaxe, you are not good at reading so I'll say it for you slowly..
The main game forums are down.
I can't post there.
People from the main forums are posting HERE.
I posted here as a result.
Okay?
Thanks.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Haha you have not played Darkfall though, and you are going to play with me anyways so.
Read my post. So you are going to apologize on the Darkfall forums for forcing Darkfall on people with your fanboism? On the Darkfall forums? Where people talk about Darkfall and how much they cant wait for Darkfall to come out so they can play Darkfall?
You are right. You really were wrong for forcing Darkfall on all the people at the Darkfall forums.
Haha.
My head hurts after reading these 4 pages.
However, notice how people suddenly respond positive when a guy posts 5 columns of text.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Haha you have not played Darkfall though, and you are going to play with me anyways so.
You sir, just blew your responses all to hell. You do not have information on who did and did not beta test therefore assumptions cannot be proven either way. And yes, they are telling you to learn some comprehension skills and its showing that you need to improve upon that.
Playing: Not much actively.
Games played: to many to list, been playing MMO's since 2001
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Hercules: I checked your post history in these boards and I found nothing in contradiction with what you said.
May be you don’t need to apologize here but I understand you want to do it because DF forums are still down.
Don’t care about the fanbois around they are crazy these days doing more damage to the game in few hours that all the trolls together in the past months. I’m not going to jump in the game at least not now. I’ll see in some months. But is fun to see how people train the FFA PvP in a text MMORPG.
You are not alone; I made the same mistake in my clan with AoC. I was blind by the advertising of Funcom, and lead them to a game that wasn’t what I expected it to be. I learned the lesson.
It’s always great to see mature behaviours in these boards. Good reading. Thanks for it.
Don't include me in that! I played UO for 4 years and I dislike DF very much. No way is DF = UO. The only similarity is the the abundant macroing and full loot....
Haha you have not played Darkfall though, and you are going to play with me anyways so.
Maybe.. probabley not. Ive told you why not but there are so many blind fans of this game that make up shit and compare it to UO when it clearly is not makes no sense. DF is DF, it's not even close to being UO. I don't have to play DF to know that. Can it succeed? yes, but right now they need to step up and act like a company. To me there is no difference between an indie company and a big time company when you charge the same price for a game as them.
This launch has been one of the worst I can remember, not mainly because of the gameplay because I cannot comment on that of course 100% but just from a PR standpoint it is beyond ridiculous.
Also the OP I believe was not only posting this for himself, but it can be tracked down to every single fanboi out there. You more than anyone I know have tried to force this game on everyone regardless of it being good or not. If it is so good then let it speak for itself instead. Anyone wonder why there are so many "trolls" on this game but so few on others? It's because the fanboys here have kept trying to force feed this game to them. People are stubborn and when looking at a game you should be skeptical. I don't care if WoW 2 came out or just DF, you have to look at the game with skeptisism and negativity and let the GAME change your mind, not the fanboys.
Thanks for this honest post.
DFO is not for everyone I see...not even for UO players.
"If you search for my posts, they are almost all deleted. Kind of funny there."
DnL again.
Whoosh. Someone missed the point. This whole thread is about him apologizing for his "fanboy behavior". I was showing that he cleary exhibited no fanboy behavior on this website.
Well this one is coming to pass, just like he said it would.
Originally posted by Bimsemusen
Hi there,
I figured id see if anyone is willing to pay some money for a darkfall preorder account. Its a confirmed preorder account, meaning ive gotten the mail stating the 3 euro charge, but I havent gotten the 45 euro charge yet.
Im just sick of waiting, so if anybody comes with a decent offer, they can have it.
Oh and I can provide any amount and any kind of proof of the account being real in the form of screenshots.
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Maybe Herc should change his account name to Nostrodaumas
Price of a Darkfall Pre-Order... $50 Dollars
Price to play the game a month.... $15 Dollars
Price of decent forum a month... $300 Dollars
Price of Darkfall fans not having a honest come back.... Priceless
For everything else use mastercard.
I'm glad you decided to stop hating, most trolls won't have the guts to admit they were wrong however.
DF Hater turned fan 26/02/09
He also said he didnt troll here much, yet he apologizes here. Wait what?
Some people need some serious reading comprehension skills.
His entire post is about how he was a blind zealot fan who would troll back against the trolls defending a game he knew little about.
The meat of his post is what he found to be the short comings of DF all the while still trying to sell the game to friends and guildmates, only to realize he was trying to sell them into a game he did not feel was as great as he initially made it out to be.
He came here to give a heart felt honest opinion on the game, and apologize to those who he battled against in his blind faith of DF.
The post was good, well thought out and articulate.
Good reading for anyone with basic reading comprehension skills.
"I am here to apologise to a lot of you guys for the behavior I've probably exhibited in many places (not here often)."
His first line. Some serious reading comprhension skills are indeed needed.
I am not good at reading comprehension, but my spider sense tells me that when someone who has been banned on a game's official forum, comes to a site ,where his posting history is mostly negative towards said game, to appologize for being a fanboy and defending said game....well you don't need a higher iq than Paris Hilton to see where I am going.
Agree, anyone can disguise himself as a fan, just like this OP did.
And saying old UO players dont enjoy the game isnt true.
100% of the old UO players in my guild will continue to play Darkfall after beta.
THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE EVEN VIEWING THIS THREAD IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THE GAME. My God people, nobody cares about your little forum wars, this thread is useful because it provides information. Amazing how lost that concept is in a bulletin board of all places..Idiot (yes I had to edit just to add that)
Played:
EQ1, AO, WoW, AoC
Best thread ever:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2680105/thread/225957#2680105
Sure, I can "disguise" myself as a fan. I would tell you to search my username in the main DF forums, but seeing as how they are down (and will probably be for a while), plus the fact that they were all deleted makes it rather irrelevant.
Old UO players can enjoy the game, but what you say in your third line makes the second more likely. If you're part of a large guild and you're organized, then the game can be fun. For a time. The main draw of combat in this game isn't that it takes any skill -- it doesn't -- and that's why UO is FAR superior as a PvP game to Darkfall. However, the group combat dynamic still exists in Darkfall, and since there is friendly fire, guilds who are organized will do well together.
But please don't come here and tell me that Darkfall takes any individual skill, or at least not in comparison to UO. Because it doesn't. And if you say it takes more skill than UO to play, then you never played UO in your life, or you came after it was patched to garbage.
The OPs post was too long but I did get to the part where he said that it was the pusihing of the product so hard that made people upset with him........This I have ot agree with......I dont think alot of us would have ever even noticed Darkfall if it wasnt for guys like him saying it was going to be the greatest game ever in every single post they made.......Its OK to be excited about a game but when you start saying things like its the best game ever then people are going to take notice and look at it more closely.......Whats funny is I'm sure Aion or TCoS or whatever game is coming next will have similar hype......It also doesnt help that so many gamers just cant wait a month or two after a game is released either.......It just seems that this hobby has alot of compulsive buyers that will just buy things because they are new.
Here are some gems from this Darkfall "Fan":
"Jeez man, they aren't looking too good. I saw a few the other day and some folks think the game is awesome and I'm looking at the same screens and saying "really?"
There are some negative ones too, search under "DFLeaker" on Youtube... I'm just amazed that they think this game is ready for anything. It looks boring."
"Doesn't anybody realize that they have a LIMITED RELEASE, in order to meet the demand that they said they can handle?
It pretty much means that Tasos is totally full of shit and happy to take your money from you. It's so bad that they seem to be creating accounts BY HAND. It means they had no system in place to automatically process these things, the account management is a joke, etc.
I like the excuses but the vast majority is what they said they could handle and thus, limited the # of preorders. They only announced preorder a few days before LAUNCH.
This is shaping up to be EPIC EPIC fail. I'll bet on another day of downtime before some people give up and cancel their pre-order, and then finally it will be up.
Two months or so until total fail. Then it will truly be epic fail."
"I knew this launch was going to be epic fail...
I'm just waiting a little while longer before I make my "Epic Fail" signature files and put Aventurine/Darkfall stuff into it. I think it would be higher quality than the game is anyway
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Yeah it looks like he never made 1 positive post about Darkfall on these forums. Good thing you apologized for "hyping" Darkfall at the place you NEVER hyped it.
Sorry to ruin your thread though.
LOL!!!!
Tecmo Bowl.
THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE EVEN VIEWING THIS THREAD IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THE GAME. My God people, nobody cares about your little forum wars, this thread is useful because it provides information. Amazing how lost that concept is in a bulletin board of all places..Idiot (yes I had to edit just to add that)
The problem is that any negative opinion, no matter how well it is presented, gets shouted down by fanbois and the original poster gets branded as a troll.
The favorite tactic is to attempt to discredit the poster by any means possible. These petty people dig up old posts, look for any incinsistency and wave it around like a banner, all the while not realizing that no matter how much they shout and flame these so-called "trolls", it will not change the state of the game.
Dude, take a break from gaming. Seriously, it's clearly causing some emotional distress for you... Just take a break for a while. Go outside and enjoy our lovely planet.
Tecmo Bowl.