Too bad Serenity Now is full of shit. Plenty of other guilds have taken down dragons, some even on the first day the game went live.
On the first day live? Let me ask you, do you consider this to be a good thing, people being able to kill dragons on day one?
and why Not, that defines the game as a sandbox. I big group could come and topple any pve creature. There are not lvls ect. you can get some decent gear from goblins and go on a dragon kill spree. This game is not lvl base so it is possible.
Too bad Serenity Now is full of shit. Plenty of other guilds have taken down dragons, some even on the first day the game went live.
On the first day live? Let me ask you, do you consider this to be a good thing, people being able to kill dragons on day one?
and why Not, that defines the game as a sandbox. I big group could come and topple any pve creature. There are not lvls ect. you can get some decent gear from goblins and go on a dragon kill spree. This game is not lvl base so it is possible.
learn to sandbox?
Sorry I forgot about that I will try to obey, I promise to work on my sandbox skills everyday and to remember that dragons in sandbox games are no more dangerous than goblins if you zerge them and make overhead chops with the rest of the zerg!
It looks just bad. This is not something to brag about. Nothing about the video to kill him looks appealing. I am not a DF fan but at least the pvp videos in their own way look a bit grand compared to this whack a mole pve. Sad just sad.
I'd have to agree here, the pvp videos look more fun just with the insanity (though i'm not a fan of the zerging that seems to be the main battle strategy). This pve fight looks horribly boring.
Too bad Serenity Now is full of shit. Plenty of other guilds have taken down dragons, some even on the first day the game went live.
o.k. this kinda confuses me.
One the one hand... it's great that we are seeing some interesting PvE content for DarkFall.
On the other hand... it doesn't look to be much of a challenge.
On the one hand... we've been told by quite a few fans that everyone is still "young" and "hardly any skills yet" as to the reason that the videos all look the same, and everyone is casting the same spell.
On the other hand... these "newbies" just took out a dragon!
Perhaps I'm not getting it though, anyone that can help me make some sense of that would be greatly appreciated.
I am just remembering back to when EQ first went live. I am pretty sure that Vox and Nagafen were not taken down "the first day the game went live".
I really wish Darkfall fanatics would stop posting.... because everytime they do, I can't stop laughing.
In Everquest, if you killed a dragon, your whole guild stood behind it for a screenshot, because it took HOURS to get to him and it was a tough fight. Darkfall is an utter joke on the MMORPG community and should have the plug pulled for being so stupid..!
Lol and a 90% pvp game this is something worth mention well about whole darkfall community dont give shit what a pve guild from wow achieve in pve its worthless achievement :P
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
It doesnt seem to be a big accomplishment. Much less no stratergy involved. Just look www.youtube.com/watch The pve doesnt look as marketed. i dont see any brilliant ai comming from this mob. so did goblins only get a slight morrowind ai boost?
Sorry but.. that was it? o___O Please don't tell me melee characters can only press mouse button and don't have any skills to use =/ I want to try this game but I HATE boring combat where I'm using only 1 skill =[
Welcome to the Age of Darkfall. If only we could hijack game companies when they don't deliver things they promised.
I think I will try to compose a list of all promises made by AV in the decade it took them to release this thing. Then we can, as a group of intellectual and logical humans discuss the how's and why's the promises were not met. We have to do that in a non hating, offensive, trolling, flaming sword wielding barbarian.
Maybe we could start with lack of animations?
On a side note: this game is not hardcore. Hardcore would be to have permanent death. THAT would be hardcore.
Too bad Serenity Now is full of shit. Plenty of other guilds have taken down dragons, some even on the first day the game went live.
o.k. this kinda confuses me.
One the one hand... it's great that we are seeing some interesting PvE content for DarkFall.
On the other hand... it doesn't look to be much of a challenge.
On the one hand... we've been told by quite a few fans that everyone is still "young" and "hardly any skills yet" as to the reason that the videos all look the same, and everyone is casting the same spell.
On the other hand... these "newbies" just took out a dragon!
Perhaps I'm not getting it though, anyone that can help me make some sense of that would be greatly appreciated.
I am just remembering back to when EQ first went live. I am pretty sure that Vox and Nagafen were not taken down "the first day the game went live".
you indeed do not get it. there are no lvls. if you hit with a weapon you hit it. now a higher trained person would hit it for more damage. but even when you create your char. and you are invited in the first 5 min to take down a dragon you can.
all other games are lvl based and that normaly means that you wont even damage it. and dont forget in other mmo's groups are capped at a max amount of people this is not the way darkfall works.
Any guild with half a brain could of done that by the looks of it all you gotta do is click click click click click click click done loot how sad lol gotta be one of the worst fights ive seen in along time and how it was floating around was just roflz
It looks just bad. This is not something to brag about. Nothing about the video to kill him looks appealing. I am not a DF fan but at least the pvp videos in their own way look a bit grand compared to this whack a mole pve. Sad just sad.
I'd have to agree here, the pvp videos look more fun just with the insanity (though i'm not a fan of the zerging that seems to be the main battle strategy). This pve fight looks horribly boring.
It doesnt just seem themain strategy, it is the main strategy.
Whilst a lot of the current population are well known zerg guilds from shadowbane, its not necessarily down to th eplayers. Zerging is simply th eonly real strategy in this game, as it currently stands.
No support classes yet (debatable how much support there will be in the future, the skills suggests you could devlop support templates, the game mechanics suggest otherwise, things like area heals that also heal the enemy combines with tried and trusted zerging means healers are not going to be effective in the long term anyway) , and combat mechanics heavily biased to melee range makes tactics a moot point.
Too bad Serenity Now is full of shit. Plenty of other guilds have taken down dragons, some even on the first day the game went live.
o.k. this kinda confuses me.
One the one hand... it's great that we are seeing some interesting PvE content for DarkFall.
On the other hand... it doesn't look to be much of a challenge.
On the one hand... we've been told by quite a few fans that everyone is still "young" and "hardly any skills yet" as to the reason that the videos all look the same, and everyone is casting the same spell.
On the other hand... these "newbies" just took out a dragon!
Perhaps I'm not getting it though, anyone that can help me make some sense of that would be greatly appreciated.
I am just remembering back to when EQ first went live. I am pretty sure that Vox and Nagafen were not taken down "the first day the game went live".
you indeed do not get it. there are no lvls. if you hit with a weapon you hit it. now a higher trained person would hit it for more damage. but even when you create your char. and you are invited in the first 5 min to take down a dragon you can.
all other games are lvl based and that normaly means that you wont even damage it. and dont forget in other mmo's groups are capped at a max amount of people this is not the way darkfall works.
Heh... yeah I knew that part. Perhaps I wasn't very clear, sorry about that.
I guess I was just expecting a Dragon to put up a bit more of a fight.
Where were the knock-backs of the players from flapping the wings?
Where were the AoE flame, acid, ice, poison, disease attacks?
Where were the ground-shaking stun attacks?
Where were the spell-casting attacks?
Where were pretty much anything that would show the intelligence befitting a Dragon?
It was kinda neat that it had a dragon-skin to it... but it may as well have just been a giant Rat.
Other than it's skin looking like a Dragon... what did it do that resembled a Dragon attack?
Hopefully for those that like a bit of PvE with their PvP game; this was just an anomaly in the PvE conquests to come in DarkFall.
Any guild with half a brain could of done that by the looks of it all you gotta do is click click click click click click click done loot how sad lol gotta be one of the worst fights ive seen in along time and how it was floating around was just roflz
yeah, same as WOW PVE, except you need to click for longer/need more people/specific gear in WOW, &/or you need to lookup wowhead.com for the gimmick needed to win the fight.
so, DF PVE == WOW PVE because both require clicking/pressing buttons, amirite?
Any guild with half a brain could of done that by the looks of it all you gotta do is click click click click click click click done loot how sad lol gotta be one of the worst fights ive seen in along time and how it was floating around was just roflz
yeah, same as WOW PVE, except you need to click for longer/need more people/specific gear in WOW, &/or you need to lookup wowhead.com for the gimmick needed to win the fight.
so, DF PVE == WOW PVE because both require clicking/pressing buttons, amirite?
if you say so i guess you havent realy done in raids then by the looks of it heh df seems more like easymode then hardcore lol just cause you lose your loot when you die doesent make it hardcore lolz if you want a real hardcore game then l2 and not to add how unprofessional the gms and devs are hell ive seen private servers with more professional gms and devs then df
You obviously are not very good at it if you think spamming one ability is all that it takes. Not being good at a game can indeed lead to hating it.
Anyway, that is derailing the topic.
If you really think that a group in WoW who are fighting a dragon do exactly the same as the same overhead chops in the linked youtube of Darkfall then you have lost all grip on objectivity and discussion with you about it is impossible.
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On the first day live? Let me ask you, do you consider this to be a good thing, people being able to kill dragons on day one?
and why Not, that defines the game as a sandbox. I big group could come and topple any pve creature. There are not lvls ect. you can get some decent gear from goblins and go on a dragon kill spree. This game is not lvl base so it is possible.
learn to sandbox?
Learn to design meaningful PvE challenges ?
On the first day live? Let me ask you, do you consider this to be a good thing, people being able to kill dragons on day one?
and why Not, that defines the game as a sandbox. I big group could come and topple any pve creature. There are not lvls ect. you can get some decent gear from goblins and go on a dragon kill spree. This game is not lvl base so it is possible.
learn to sandbox?
Sorry I forgot about that
I will try to obey, I promise to work on my sandbox skills everyday and to remember that dragons in sandbox games are no more dangerous than goblins if you zerge them and make overhead chops with the rest of the zerg!
I'd have to agree here, the pvp videos look more fun just with the insanity (though i'm not a fan of the zerging that seems to be the main battle strategy). This pve fight looks horribly boring.
o.k. this kinda confuses me.
One the one hand... it's great that we are seeing some interesting PvE content for DarkFall.
On the other hand... it doesn't look to be much of a challenge.
On the one hand... we've been told by quite a few fans that everyone is still "young" and "hardly any skills yet" as to the reason that the videos all look the same, and everyone is casting the same spell.
On the other hand... these "newbies" just took out a dragon!
Perhaps I'm not getting it though, anyone that can help me make some sense of that would be greatly appreciated.
I am just remembering back to when EQ first went live. I am pretty sure that Vox and Nagafen were not taken down "the first day the game went live".
I really wish Darkfall fanatics would stop posting.... because everytime they do, I can't stop laughing.
In Everquest, if you killed a dragon, your whole guild stood behind it for a screenshot, because it took HOURS to get to him and it was a tough fight. Darkfall is an utter joke on the MMORPG community and should have the plug pulled for being so stupid..!
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Is the dragon that ugly black thing in the middle of the screen?
Anyway this game is pretty sad, the graphics are worse than wow's and much worse than lotro's.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
Lol and a 90% pvp game this is something worth mention well about whole darkfall community dont give shit what a pve guild from wow achieve in pve its worthless achievement :P
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Killing Dragons in the first 2 weeks of the game lol sounds like easy mode so much for super AI lol
Sorry but.. that was it? o___O Please don't tell me melee characters can only press mouse button and don't have any skills to use =/ I want to try this game but I HATE boring combat where I'm using only 1 skill =[
Welcome to the Age of Darkfall. If only we could hijack game companies when they don't deliver things they promised.
I think I will try to compose a list of all promises made by AV in the decade it took them to release this thing. Then we can, as a group of intellectual and logical humans discuss the how's and why's the promises were not met. We have to do that in a non hating, offensive, trolling, flaming sword wielding barbarian.
Maybe we could start with lack of animations?
On a side note: this game is not hardcore. Hardcore would be to have permanent death. THAT would be hardcore.
o.k. this kinda confuses me.
One the one hand... it's great that we are seeing some interesting PvE content for DarkFall.
On the other hand... it doesn't look to be much of a challenge.
On the one hand... we've been told by quite a few fans that everyone is still "young" and "hardly any skills yet" as to the reason that the videos all look the same, and everyone is casting the same spell.
On the other hand... these "newbies" just took out a dragon!
Perhaps I'm not getting it though, anyone that can help me make some sense of that would be greatly appreciated.
I am just remembering back to when EQ first went live. I am pretty sure that Vox and Nagafen were not taken down "the first day the game went live".
you indeed do not get it. there are no lvls. if you hit with a weapon you hit it. now a higher trained person would hit it for more damage. but even when you create your char. and you are invited in the first 5 min to take down a dragon you can.
all other games are lvl based and that normaly means that you wont even damage it. and dont forget in other mmo's groups are capped at a max amount of people this is not the way darkfall works.
you only need oneweapon skill to hit a target. if you mean abilities. yes you do get new abilities you can use with your weapon.
Any guild with half a brain could of done that by the looks of it all you gotta do is click click click click click click click done loot how sad lol gotta be one of the worst fights ive seen in along time and how it was floating around was just roflz
I'd have to agree here, the pvp videos look more fun just with the insanity (though i'm not a fan of the zerging that seems to be the main battle strategy). This pve fight looks horribly boring.
It doesnt just seem themain strategy, it is the main strategy.
Whilst a lot of the current population are well known zerg guilds from shadowbane, its not necessarily down to th eplayers. Zerging is simply th eonly real strategy in this game, as it currently stands.
No support classes yet (debatable how much support there will be in the future, the skills suggests you could devlop support templates, the game mechanics suggest otherwise, things like area heals that also heal the enemy combines with tried and trusted zerging means healers are not going to be effective in the long term anyway) , and combat mechanics heavily biased to melee range makes tactics a moot point.
o.k. this kinda confuses me.
One the one hand... it's great that we are seeing some interesting PvE content for DarkFall.
On the other hand... it doesn't look to be much of a challenge.
On the one hand... we've been told by quite a few fans that everyone is still "young" and "hardly any skills yet" as to the reason that the videos all look the same, and everyone is casting the same spell.
On the other hand... these "newbies" just took out a dragon!
Perhaps I'm not getting it though, anyone that can help me make some sense of that would be greatly appreciated.
I am just remembering back to when EQ first went live. I am pretty sure that Vox and Nagafen were not taken down "the first day the game went live".
you indeed do not get it. there are no lvls. if you hit with a weapon you hit it. now a higher trained person would hit it for more damage. but even when you create your char. and you are invited in the first 5 min to take down a dragon you can.
all other games are lvl based and that normaly means that you wont even damage it. and dont forget in other mmo's groups are capped at a max amount of people this is not the way darkfall works.
Heh... yeah I knew that part. Perhaps I wasn't very clear, sorry about that.
I guess I was just expecting a Dragon to put up a bit more of a fight.
Where were the knock-backs of the players from flapping the wings?
Where were the AoE flame, acid, ice, poison, disease attacks?
Where were the ground-shaking stun attacks?
Where were the spell-casting attacks?
Where were pretty much anything that would show the intelligence befitting a Dragon?
It was kinda neat that it had a dragon-skin to it... but it may as well have just been a giant Rat.
Other than it's skin looking like a Dragon... what did it do that resembled a Dragon attack?
Hopefully for those that like a bit of PvE with their PvP game; this was just an anomaly in the PvE conquests to come in DarkFall.
[quote] well-known WOW guild 'Serenity Now' (who has apparently ditched WOW for Darkfall) [/quote]
?? What the??
You were the first to slay it? Really?
Interesting. This is 2 weeks old vid btw.
WTF is Serenity Now?
yeah, same as WOW PVE, except you need to click for longer/need more people/specific gear in WOW, &/or you need to lookup wowhead.com for the gimmick needed to win the fight.
so, DF PVE == WOW PVE because both require clicking/pressing buttons, amirite?
so you're saying the key to more epic PVE is more HP?
good to know. i'm sure DF devs can pach in more HP for instantly more epic PVE zomg!!111
yeah, same as WOW PVE, except you need to click for longer/need more people/specific gear in WOW, &/or you need to lookup wowhead.com for the gimmick needed to win the fight.
so, DF PVE == WOW PVE because both require clicking/pressing buttons, amirite?
if you say so i guess you havent realy done in raids then by the looks of it heh df seems more like easymode then hardcore lol just cause you lose your loot when you die doesent make it hardcore lolz if you want a real hardcore game then l2 and not to add how unprofessional the gms and devs are hell ive seen private servers with more professional gms and devs then df
i raided in wow for almost 12 months until i realise i was paying blizzard to provide me with a second job.
here is WOW "epic" PVE, as a mage:
1) create water x200; 20 mins
2) cast fireball x40, evoc or drink
3) repeat
...for 4+ hours
oh yeah, WOW PVE is SOOOO different than Darkfall....
Bit surprised people took you along. You must be lower than the tank in damage output if all you did was fireball.
back in the days of MC -> BWL -> AQ, fireball spam was where it was at.
...and now it's frostfire bolt spam.
a lot has changed in WOW's "epic" PVE.... not.
I can see why you don't like WoW.
You obviously are not very good at it if you think spamming one ability is all that it takes. Not being good at a game can indeed lead to hating it.
Anyway, that is derailing the topic.
If you really think that a group in WoW who are fighting a dragon do exactly the same as the same overhead chops in the linked youtube of Darkfall then you have lost all grip on objectivity and discussion with you about it is impossible.