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Some of this story makes no sense at all........First of all if they chatted on the phone couldnt she tell that he was much older?? I mean most 40 year olds probably sound alot different than most teens......Second, according to police, his chats with her were violent and sexual??....If that is true who would still go off to meet someone like that??........
Apparently you have never seen one of the many Dateline show, predator series stings, where countless men are found enticing teenage boys and girls on the web for sexual acts, some of which are violent in nature, and then arranging to meet them in real life. There seem to be just as many stupid teenage kids without any parental supervision signing up to be abused.
Over the phone she may have known that he was older but females generally want to date up agewise for some reason. However, there was no way for her to know how completely and totally fugly this guy was either online or over the phone.
I was also under the understanding that the "increasingly sexual and violent" part came after police brought the girl home and took up her identity to investigate this guy. This leads to an ethical question about how leading the undercover cops were with this guy online, but the fact that he went there at all with a person that he believed to be 13 does place him squarely in the threat catagory.
I'm just glad the this guy was caught by due process and not those incompetent fuckstains at Perverted Justice. PJ doesn't make simple distinctions between actual predators and online ageplayers. I also have other issues with the motivations of Perveted Justice as opposed to actual law enforcement. Yes, the police are corrupt, but there's a limit to the corruption since the police have to answer to the public. Perverted Justice doesn't answer to anyone and their motives are questionable at best.
It doesn't make a bit of diference, they're inert!
Honestly the internet is a scary place for kids, why would anyone let a young girl get on and talk to strangers without first having a talk with her that went something like this.
"Honey don't ever try to meet someone online, they're all perverted creeps who want to hurt you."
Any good parent would also have a watchdog program or a key logger and would have atleast tried to be more active in their kids life.
They're real lucky that psycho didn't get her
Harry Knowles, what have you done??
That is very true, I worked in a prison 11 years, and that place is packed full of people like this.
But this is a game site, not a pedafile blog.
Game On
I would kill myself if I ever looked like that. Prison could actually save that guy, no computers and lots of exercise maybe he can be re-adjusted mentally too.
No not usual, they lie about it so they can fricken early parole.
Every parent should have a key logger.
Some prisons do have computer labs. Would you take the risk that he becomes rehabilitated and is released to live in your neighborhood?
The interweb is a scary place.
Something like this happened on my server a number of years ago. It went on through aol chat rooms or something like that, but not in warcraft. The guy who got busted was a big raid leader that had an enemy list a mile long. Needless to say everyone he pissed on sherlocked all of the details of his arrest and then his second arrest after he was released on bond and made a video of himself breaking laws.
The guy in this case is one scary looking mellon farmer. Score one for law enforcement and a parent that got involved [better late than never].
and mail rooms too, but they closley managed and monitored
This is why I actively monitor what my kids and my gf's kids do when they are online. I have a key logger and parental control software installed. I also make them play off my accounts in any MMO and I will routinely log into their characters, and talk to people on their friends lists. You can never be too careful honestly.
^ GOOD PARENT ^
Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Violoating a games EULA is different from violating a moral code.
EULA's are normally put it to protect the gaming company from people who would exploit it, as he is not doing so they wouldn't have a problem with him, and infact I bet they'd encourage him to do this since its in the spirit of monitoring his children.
Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Redwood's right, your childs safety should be second to a MMO's EULA...
Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Redwood's right, your childs safety should be second to a MMO's EULA...
^^^ i actually lawled
like.. IRL
there was much laughter
Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Ok, allowing my children to create a character off my account is a violation of a EULA? Really? Actually it isn't. Show me where in an EULA does it say you cannot allow people in your household to play off your account.
As for me pretending to be that person, I am monitoring the actions of MY CHILDREN on MY ACCOUNT. I go in, I read any tells sent to their characters, any in game emails, and I will respond if someone sends a tell. Perhaps it is dishonest, but so are the freaks who are 45 pretending to be teens while preying on the innocence of children. I can live with my dishonesty. Also, do not try to lecture me on being a good example for my children. Nothing I have done violates estabolished rules, and I really could care less if I break the implied rule of pretending to be one of my children. If it prevents them from being harmed, I will do it.
There was a guy in my dorms that looked like that, but not as disgusting as he was half his age All he did was play WoW, never went to class or anything. His character was godly though and my other friend who played wow was jealous until he actually saw him in RL. I picture all the crazy geared people to look like that.
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Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Most EULAs have sectionals about parental guidance for members under 18, including sharing the account.
Silly point for this thread though.
Everyone should put their children into a 4x9 plexiglass room. . .
Perhaps if parents, oh you know, were parents this sort of thing wouldn't happen. Half of the reason this garbage rolls around is because the parents shelter their children from the outside world instead of educate them about it.
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You wouldn't understand
I'm sure most of them do.
Although I know a dude from a guild I was in that was end game geared during original WoW.. they weren't like world firsts or anything, but the guy is a martial artist and in peak physical shape and had a pretty badass toon. Dunno if he still plays, haven't talked to him in a while. But I guess it really boils down to how well you use the time you have when you play.
Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.
Sharing accounts is usually a violation of a MMOG's EULA. It also ruins the MMOG experience for other players if you share a character pretending to be that person. That in itself is very dishonest. I think you should keep up with the monitoring and key logging and parental software etc, but violating both established and implied rules is not a good example for you to teach your child.
Ok, allowing my children to create a character off my account is a violation of a EULA? Really? Actually it isn't. Show me where in an EULA does it say you cannot allow people in your household to play off your account.
As for me pretending to be that person, I am monitoring the actions of MY CHILDREN on MY ACCOUNT. I go in, I read any tells sent to their characters, any in game emails, and I will respond if someone sends a tell. Perhaps it is dishonest, but so are the freaks who are 45 pretending to be teens while preying on the innocence of children. I can live with my dishonesty. Also, do not try to lecture me on being a good example for my children. Nothing I have done violates estabolished rules, and I really could care less if I break the implied rule of pretending to be one of my children. If it prevents them from being harmed, I will do it.
Fully agree. Blizzard's EULA is nothing compared to the safety of one's children.
However, they shouldn't even be playing a time sink game like WoW at that age. When I was 13, my parents severely limited my game time, although at that time it was Nintendo, and you couldn't meet creeps online. But When I was 15, 16 and such, we got our first computer, and they closely monitored my online time. And even back then we encountered our share of creeps on the internet.
A 13 year old should be concentrating on school, activities/sports, and making friends (non digital ones). WoW, like Cigarettes and Alcohol, is something that should be used by an adult, through an adult's free will. It's a choice, for an adult to make. A child cannot comprehend the side effects of that kind of choice, just like beer or smoking. Sure it doesn't cause cancer, or put you at risk for a DUI, but we've all seen the effects of an unhealthy addiction to WoW. Now understandably you're patrolling your child, and they don't really have a job to lose.. so it might be a bit different, but it's still an anti-social activity at an age where social proficiency is one of the major stages of development.
While this guy is a total scumbag, and is 100% at fault for what could have been a very tragic story, all of this could have been prevented by parents being real parents and just saying "No, you're too young to play WoW, do your damn homework." This just furthers my belief that nobody under 21 should be playing MMORPGs.
Science flies people to the moon. Religion flies people into buildings.
^ GOOD PARENT ^
Very good. And it's totally ok for a parent to log into a kids account.