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. . . and why do they lie daylight? Out of fear, that is why. The tighter you hold the worse it is going to get. My parents taught me right from wrong, I have a great deal of respect for them and they respect me. Them going through my room would be no different then me going through theirs.
With respect comes trust and with trust comes a lot more happiness.
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. . . and why do they lie daylight? Out of fear, that is why. The tighter you hold the worse it is going to get. My parents taught me right from wrong, I have a great deal of respect for them and they respect me. Them going through my room would be no different then me going through theirs.
With respect comes trust and with trust comes a lot more happiness.
Yes I can agree with most of what you say but not all kids are the same and these perverts can trick even the smartess of kids with there lie's.
At the end of the day telling someone that ask's for a program to protect there kids from this scum "just ask your kids" would be ideal in a brady bunch world,we dont live in that world and for the kids that have fallen pray to these people maybe if there parents had some sort of internet nanny watching what they did on line could have prevented it.
Is it so wrong to protect your kids?
I would also tell my kids I had it on the computer so they would know in advance so you are not trying to trap them just protect them,have a chat with them and explain that with the internet comes responsiblity and that you have added the secruity for your peace of mind and there well being,if they are using the interner properly then this should not be a problem.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Growing up my parents respected my privacy and I respected them for that and still do. Breaking my privacy and trust through keylogging and other such methods would have made me act out and want to rebel against them for that. Just teach your kids basic internet safety, don't be complete and total nazi's, you'll all be much happier for it.
This I agree with, what I don't agree with is spying on your kids. If they are aware of a key logger on the PC then everything should be fine, but once you break that line of spying on your child are you truly any better than the fat man on the front page?
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This I agree with, what I don't agree with is spying on your kids. If they are aware of a key logger on the PC then everything should be fine, but once you break that line of spying on your child are you truly any better than the fat man on the front page?
Yes, yes you are.
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This I agree with, what I don't agree with is spying on your kids. If they are aware of a key logger on the PC then everything should be fine, but once you break that line of spying on your child are you truly any better than the fat man on the front page?
You are very much better than that piece of Sh!t,you are doing it to protect a child not harm it,a terrible answer and sorry but I can only imagine you have no kids or a concept about raising 1.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Locklain,
There are a lot of things beyond a parents control, even when those children are taught right from wrong. Parents teachings are not some unstoppable force that keep kids from making mistakes.
There is a lot of pressures and influences in the world and all a parent can do it hope that kids make the right choices, because in the end it is the children who determine what actions they take. Good upbringing or not.
It is fine that you trust you kids or that you were trusted, but don't talk down to people that go the extra mile to make sure. There are far to many stories of parents who trusted their children only to have something go wrong and even more of parents who did go beyond trust and saved their children from something aweful.
I'll let someone else address your tone if they chose to.
This I agree with, what I don't agree with is spying on your kids. If they are aware of a key logger on the PC then everything should be fine, but once you break that line of spying on your child are you truly any better than the fat man on the front page?
You are very much better than that piece of Sh!t,you are doing it to protect a child not harm it,a terrible answer and sorry but I can only imagine you have no kids or a concept about raising 1.
I'm a father of 3. I would not say a parent spying on their kid is as bad as the fat guy there. However parents that don't talk to their kids and build that kind of trust/relationship with their children is a huge part of the problem. Nothing wrong with useing Internet Nanny etc. Just let the kid know that your doing it and why. Show them the pic of the fat dude that tried to get the 13 year old girl.
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I understand that and it may just be that I was raised in a small town away from the plethora of freaks out there. What I am trying to get at is this, as someone said above me, if I found out my parents had been monitoring everything I did, save my life or not, all sense of trust would be smashed and would ruin our relationship. I am not telling anyone how to raise their child, what I am trying to get across is trying viewing it from their standpoint.
The fatman questions was ment to be rhetorical, not an insult.
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this what happens when you let the pc babysit & raise your kid lol..
You are kidding right? Have you tried ASKING your kid?
This is all I keep thinking about through this entire topic. . .
Heh yeah my first thoughts on that was the kid is gay, not having a secret girlfriend. Im mean a naked guys mag, lol But hey thats just me.
But yeah parents should never spy on there kids just be up front its better to talk and find out about things that way than spying on them and bringing something up. My parents respected my privacy and I thank them for that.
Man I remember when I first got the internet back in 95 or so. Going to AOL chatrooms talking to girls getting phone numbers and meeting girls in real life was Kosher, you never really heard about these things happening. I guess because the internet was new so the pervs haven't really thought of using it yet. Now days everyone is weary, which is understandable now that all these crazy things keep happening on the internet.
To be honest I never really heard about these types of things till it happened on WoW and Myspace. Im sure they happened before those but I never heard anything, I guess I wasn't paying any attention or something.
Funny thing, is if the guy gets a halfwhat smart lawyer. He will not serve time.
Prosecutors have to prove his intent to harm the child. He didn't travel to her, she was coming to HIM. All they have to go off of is chat logs. If he gave her nude pics of himself, he solicited pornography to a minor then thats another story.
While it may suck, thats the law. The movie, Minority Report, was made for a reason.
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I understand that and it may just be that I was raised in a small town away from the plethora of freaks out there. What I am trying to get at is this, as someone said above me, if I found out my parents had been monitoring everything I did, save my life or not, all sense of trust would be smashed and would ruin our relationship. I am not telling anyone how to raise their child, what I am trying to get across is trying viewing it from their standpoint.
Honest mate I can see where you are comming from,hell when I was a kid my mother would only worry if I was home on time for dinner,or indeed I stole a chocolate bar once and maybe I would do that again
The thing is times have changed alot and the pervs are all over the net and ready to pounce,I think a parent that takes steps to protect there child while on the net is a very smart parent indeed,like I said I would talk to the kid 1st and make sure they know about it to cut out any trust issue's.
Also just to add the amount of times I have heard about these cases where a perv has gotten some kid through the net and then heard that the kid was an honest kid,great at school etc etc...it is the "it only happens to other families syndrome"
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
He should be locked up just for looking like that.
seriously.
I would take great joy in seeing the perv get his head squished between floors on a malfunctioning elevator.
He should be locked up just for looking like that.
seriously.
Loxley, c',mon bud, we all know you have tears flowing because you probably look more like that freak than you would care to admit. It's ok, it's legal to be fat and ugly.
Wouldn't a simple thing like only trusting people on a webcam and of your own range of age solve this? Like you used to invite your kids friends home to lunch, now make your sons and daughters show his/her friends on webcam. Problem solved?
Loxley, c',mon bud, we all know you have tears flowing because you probably look more like that freak than you would care to admit. It's ok, it's legal to be fat and ugly.
I would wager you looked more like him than me. Strangley not everyone that posts on these forums are overweight and gnarley looking.
teaching your kids common sense is all that is needed.
My parents are not nazi's about 'protecting' me. I know not to give out my phone number, address, and other personal info. I know not to go and see someone that I've never really met.
seriously...all this key logger and parental oversight crap is crazy to me. The most my parents do are check out my Facebook because they are friended on it.
common sense. it does wonders.
EDIT: I played online games (Runescape and Neopets) when I was younger than she was. It's just teaching your kids how to be safe on the internet. If you want them to avoid this crap...show them this article.
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Common sense is fine and dandy but most people don't have it. Also, most kids aren't modeled out of the leave it to beaver form and simply will do stuff that isn't right.
Think of the internet and children today as it was to my generations "don't get in the van that says free candy" kind of thing. Really, in my opinion a child of less than 16 has zero business being able to contact people that the parents don't know. Disagree with me and go find a milk carton. There';s a good chance that the kid on it was abducted from an interweb predator.
to loxley, i have no idea what you look like, nor do i care, it was more of a commentary of your silly statement that fat people should be locked up for being fat mixed in with a little humility for hiding behind the annonymity of the internet and making bold statements.
Thats it, no more needed, it's my opinion too. Common sense.
And if this is your kid make sure you search his room for drugs.
My kids trust me and they're not dumb enough to date someone from the internet. Go monitor yours.
I love how people say that. My kids would never do that. They are not that dumb. It can happen to them and they can do it. Every kid can make one mistake and all it ever takes is one mistake for something bad to happen. Honestly, the likelyhood of it happening is very very remote, but to deny it could ever happen to your kids is just being blind.
Sorry, but packing up your stuff and going to meet some asshole you dont even know, even for a kid, that's beyond a mistake. Especially when, that girl, did not even tell her mother.
This I agree with, what I don't agree with is spying on your kids. If they are aware of a key logger on the PC then everything should be fine, but once you break that line of spying on your child are you truly any better than the fat man on the front page?
You are very much better than that piece of Sh!t,you are doing it to protect a child not harm it,a terrible answer and sorry but I can only imagine you have no kids or a concept about raising 1.
It's parents like you that have kids that do ok until they go to college, but then drop out and develop a drug abuse problem because they finally get to experience freedom for the first time. I've seen it happen over and over and over again. Over zealous parents usually lose in the end. They want to "protect" their kids, but end up destroying them instead. Oh, yeah, and all of them thought they knew the concept of raising a kid too...
If you have to monitor your 13 year old to prevent her from visiting the 40-year old online predator, perhaps you should re-evaluate what makes her want to visit the predator in the first place. It may have something to do with the fact she lives in a prison of sorts...
But what do I know, I'm just another internet schmuck...