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No neutral or 3rd faction. bioware decide to copy wow further...
Jupsto
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...and just have goodies vs baddies. team A vs team B, how lame. this game is gona suck ass.
I was very glad to hear about a kotor mmo, dream IP for a dream game. but now I'd rather they where making singleplayer kotor 3.
Bioware: "This was Star Wars™, not Star Neutral Guy’s Adventure."
What a moron.
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As long as it doesnt deal with Uncle Owen this time, I dont think it will matter what they do. It will be a smash hit.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
It doesnt have to be good. Its Starwars and people will play it for that reason alone. Dont worry about it anyway as there will be another Starwars game out a few years later (shrug)
just like wow!
yeah. i mean god 2 factions, good versus evil, the jedi vs the darkside, luke vs his dad. sounds nothing like star wards does it
Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!
take it easy chicken little.
Of course its goodies vs. baddies. This game is about the war between the Jedi (quite obviously good) and the Sith (quite obviously bad). There was never a third faction in this epic struggle.
Considering how story-driven this game is, it wouldn't make much sense if there was a third faction running around. This is NOT a sandbox by any stretch of the imagination... but that does not mean they are copying WOW. Everything I have read about this game makes it sound very different from WOW to me. Have you actually read anything about this game???
he got the title right, give him credit where its due....
Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!
Sorry, but Lucas lore is quite clear: Either you are good or evil.
Warhammer should have had 3 factions, I don't know why they didn't and 3 factions does usually make a game a lot more intresting but in a SW game it would just be wrong.
Nuetral factions probably will exist to some extent. They just wont be a side you join from the start. Rather there people you participate with as a dark or light. Thats my guess at least.
hehe yep nothing at all. No siree
I like the folks who refer to in terms of SWG2 best though instead of KOTOR. Totally discounting what this game is intended to be based on. Calling for Jedi to be rare etc.
I think BW is gonna have enough slack to generate material that we will be digesting for a long time. It has been their theme all along.....Great PVE based games. I see no reason why that would change. The PvP part they will do the best they canfor us, but will go along with sometype of Battle ground set up one would think.
Shame folks that have never played BW games dont know what they are dealing with. Great gaming company.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
But if there was a third faction then he could scream the same thing only using DAOC.
I have to admit that that quote slightly pissed me off as well. I'd love to be that 'neutral guy' personally. I can live with Swtor not being a sandboxy game, even though the IP would be just about perfect for that (no, I never even played SWG), but rubbing it in like that adds insult to injury to quite some "player freedom > all" people.
But OP, even though this title won't be the sandbox that some of us would like it to be, it could still turn out to be a very entertaining game. I think that Bioware is more likely to add a twist of their own magic and enrich the genre, than just carbon copying wow and proven concepts, for that matter. Who knows. They might yet surprise us
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Maybe you can play Luke's mom (which is logically thought Vaders wife), she is neutral, you know....But I don't know if so much players are intersted in playing this woman
Also I'm not sure if the film ended like "Luke, I'm your father..." and "Luke, I'm your mom and I think you shouldn't handle such a big laser sword"
Maybe you also want to play the snow in Yavin, but I think it also wont be THAT exciting...
and just when i thought humanity had some smart people left.....this post comes along.
sorry but this is not your OMG WTF DARKFALL PVPFFA!!! game.......
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Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!
Are you kidding us ? You do know that Star Wars has always been a good vs evil thing from the very beginning. Just when you though it was safe to post on the forums you get threads like these jumping out at you.
Think you mean WoW copied Star Wars. The only moron is the one who assumes. Plus no one wants to be on the sidelines and be hindered. If they came about with a criminal faction that'd be awesome. You just can not go and assume something suck ass or be zomgz leetsauce. Hopefully there space, don't think WoW has that.....yet.
Besides DAoC off the top of my head, how many other MMOs have had more than 2 factions... {Good vs Evil} Since SW:TOR will have PvP its a ton easier to balance 2 factions as opposed to 3...just ask Mythic!
Star Wars has forever been Jedi vs Sith, only 2 factions so complaining by using WoW once again as the bad influence is getting very old. {You could supposedly say that the rebels are a 3rd faction, but since they're friendly with the Jedi not really.}
I really wonder when WoW will stop being the certer point of conflict!
There were LOTS of things WAR should have had but just didnt. Its actually the perfect IP for a big convoluted war game where loads of interesting and different armies from each of the races clash with each other. It could have been a great game. Oh well never mind.
Starwars on the other hand is much more basic. Good guys vs bad guys......with the neutrals doing their own thing in between. Of course the game is gonna have only 2 sides.
WoW fanbois think they know everything, really wish that they shut up and tried a different game besides WoW so they had a point of reference besides just this one.
Multiple Factions?
like...
EVER QUEST?
... /sigh
Know your history people.
think you missed the point son
Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!
2 things to remember with SW: TOR- it is Star Wars, and Bioware is making it. Let me expand on that a tad.
Aside from playing a slobbering Hutt, there never were other factions. In old Sithian style, you were either with them- or against them. They happened to be the villian, therefore if you supported the Empire- so were you. As the man himself said, even Han's neutrality lasted about 8 minutes. There should have never been any question about this being only 2 factions, especially if you were familiar with the timeline.
Secondly, being Bioware- one should expect plot twists in the questline, as well as hard moral choices for the player. This has been the hallmark of Bioware writing, and argueably one of their strongest selling points. Expect a lot of "relative good" vs "relative evil". Expect to betray and be betrayed. Expect a blaster in your sleep from 3 clicks away, from someone you thought of as a "best friend". I dare Blizzard to write as Bioware does.
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think you missed the point son
No I was making a new point... Forgive me for not asking your permission.
Multiple factions can be easily balanced, why?
Just use the same classes for the factions, the way EQ 1 did.
Oh and I'm pretty sure WoW didn't invent the whole "good vs evil" thing.... Why does everyone act like 2 factions is their idea?
Pretty sure that religion has the patent on that.
No I was making a new point... Forgive me for not asking your permission.
Multiple factions can be easily balanced, why?
Just use the same classes for the factions, the way EQ 1 did.
Even EQ has only 2 major factions...good and evil....must be mixing up factions based on types of races.
No I was making a new point... Forgive me for not asking your permission.
Multiple factions can be easily balanced, why?
Just use the same classes for the factions, the way EQ 1 did.
Even EQ has only 2 major factions...good and evil....must be mixing up factions based on types of races.
No, if you played on a server that had the ruleset most of the factions were against each other.
No I was making a new point... Forgive me for not asking your permission.
Multiple factions can be easily balanced, why?
Just use the same classes for the factions, the way EQ 1 did.
Even EQ has only 2 major factions...good and evil....must be mixing up factions based on types of races.
No, if you played on a server that had the ruleset most of the factions were against each other.
I didnt play on the PvP servers in EQ, but I believe their was basically 3 overall factions....good/evil/neutral
The PvE servers were where everyone played, and still do. I hope this game offers as much content as EQ.
BTW I recently found a link to some old PvP stuff thanks to the FoH brds.
I guess Fansy the Bard has a home.... http://www.notacult.com/fansythefamous.htm
It makes for a great read if you understand the workings of EQ
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.