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A Request to the Community: Temporarily Cancel Your Account
throckmorton
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We can whine all we like on forums across the internet, but it won't hit them as seeing massive cancel notices.
Darkfall is a great game, and I love it, but this NA transfer ordeal is a huge mess, and AV needs to feel some pain.
If your subscription is about to run out, just resub the day before so you can keep playing. Otherwise, keep your account canceled, and put a little fright into AV.
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Cancelled and will stay cancelled. No more money from me for this scam company.
I was stupid enough to buy 3 months, of which there is another 1½ months.
I have already cancelled, and it will stay that way, even when Im european - I have alot of other problems with DF than this, although this does once again show their overall ethics, and makes my decision even easier.
You know what gets me about you nerd emo whiners, is that this is just like a normal thing, if you wanted to play wow from the eu in america you have to purchase the American client, the fatc you decided to play on the EU server in wow then decided to play in america is your cohice nobody forced you to do it. Same exact thing applied to Darkfall, you americans or whatever knew it was a eu server and you thought magicallly you would get to play on the american server because you had the eu client???. hell this is just normal business practice, similar like normal mmos with game regions. So no just because you want to play on american server they should just let you free of charge? ITs a fuucking business, its like saying to all wow players and other mmos hey you bought the eu client but u cna play in america free of charge, all hell would break lose with the structre of the game. This is why you nreds kepe jumping from mmo to mmo, becayuse u people just whine about everything.
NEWSFLASH if you are american and bought us clinet, well thats your tough luck.
Your wrong, I can play EU WOW from US with my US client....
^This
This whole NA server thing clearly shows me what kind of company we are dealing with, I liked DF as well but this? This is bullcrap on an SOE level. I support this idea. /cancelled
Oh and the difference between an EU and NA "client" is an adjustment in a config file. You honestly think that bullshit is worth another 50$?? They are trying to scam a buck and its wrong. Just plain wrong.
^This
This whole NA server thing clearly shows me what kind of company we are dealing with, I liked DF as well but this? This is bullcrap on an SOE level. I support this idea. /cancelled
Jesus chrust clinet/account to play wow in US to have to make a new account and do a new billing system. So whats the difference here, oh so you have to buy a new clinet, boohoo.
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You can def play on Oceanic with a us copy of the client. Along with many other games.... If they really need a new client they can provide it for free. If their new publisher agreement was to only allow new clients that they sell on NA clusters then its AV fault and took the best offer they could get to hit the us market harder. Its probably this or nothing...Their not some knight in shining armor to a potential US publisher anymore, but a huge gable that has been tarnished by public reputation...
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I've already cancelled my account, but......
Didn't AV have like 300k people sign up for their beta? I saw the fans here post those numbers dozens of times in the past.
So if there was in fact that much pent-up demand for DFO, if would seem that the devs can be confident that no matter what they do, they'll still have 100's of thousands of potential players in the wings just waiting for a chance to play.
Anyone see any flaw in AV's thought process here? Or are they making the right bet?
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=132003
Players in North America are welcome to participate in the European Launch. The plans for US servers aren’t finalized at the time of this announcement. We will offer the option for character migration to US servers for N. American players who wish to use it. We have had people playing without problem from all over the US and Canada. That being said, our servers are located in Germany and distance does affect ping-time.
Nothing in the above says anything about having to purchase a new client when the new server opens.
How about this:
DARKFALL ONLINE TERMS OF SERVICE (“TOS”)
BY ENTERING YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION, OPENING AN ACCOUNT, USING THE DARKFALL ONLINE GAME ACCESSING THE DARKFALL GAME WORLD AND HITTING THE "I ACCEPT" BUTTON YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HAVING REVIEWED THE FOLLOWING TERMS OF SERVICE, THAT YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THEM AND WAIVE ANY DEFENSE BASED ON THE METHOD OR MANNER THROUGH WHICH YOUR AGREEMENT TO THESE TERMS OF SERVICE HAVE BEEN ENTERED INTO.
Welcome to Darkfall online created by Aventurine S.A. There are two components to Darkfall online, the game client that you install on your computer (the “Game”) and the online service where the virtual world where the game is played (the “World”). Your use of the Game and the World are governed by these Terms of Service (“TOS”) and the End User License Agreement (“EULA”) that you agreed to when you installed the Game on your computer. You must agree to accept both the TOS and the EULA before you can to play Darkfall online. The TOS is set out in detail below and also available on the Darkfall online web site. The EULA is incorporated into these TOS by this reference. By installing and playing Darkfall online you are specifically agreeing to both these TOS and the EULA.
1. Limited License to the World. Your participation in the Game and the World are subject to your ongoing agreement to and compliance with these TOS. Aventurine grants you a non exclusive, non transferable, revocable license to the Game and the World, subject to these TOS and the EULA. You may only use the Game and the World for your entertainment. Any commercial uses of the Game or the World by you is strictly prohibited.
2. Conditions and Limitations. Your Limited License to the World and the Game is subject to the following conditions and limitations:
a. You will not use and distribute cheats, bots, hacks, mods or any other third-party software not specifically offered or authorized by Aventurine that modifies or alters the Game or the World;
b. You will not commercially exploit the Game or the World in any manner including, but not limited to, the playing of the Game at a cyber café, computer gaming center or any other location-based site that does not have the written consent of Aventurine;
c. You will not commercially exploit the Game or the World by gathering or acquiring in-game currency, items or resources that are sold outside the Game or the World;
d. You will not commercially exploit the Game or the World by providing any services on the Game or the World for financial benefit or payment from outside the Game or the World;
e. You will not use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts or otherwise collects information from or through the Game or the World such as software used to collect data from your computer or from the World through your computer regarding a character in the Game or in the World or any third party created player interface that is not specifically authorized by Aventurine;
f. You will not modify any files that are a part of the Game or of the World or use any hacks of cheats while playing in the Game or the World;
g. You will not host, develop or participate in any matchmaking services for the Game or the World unless specifically authorized by Aventurine to do so;
h. You will not participate or facilitate any unauthorized play of the Game or the World over the internet or any private network;
i. You will not participate or facilitate in any manner any connection to the Game or the World on any server that is not authorized and maintained by Aventurine or those authorized to provide a server by Aventurine;
j. You will not in any manner disrupt or facilitate in the disruption of any server used to support the World or any other player’s computer used to play the Game or access the World including, but not limited to, ping bombing or denial of service attacks. You acknowledge that, in addition to such actions being a violation of these TOS and the EULA, they may also be in violation of criminal and civil law and could subject you to criminal and civil penalties;
k. You will not use the Game or the World in any manner that violates any law, government regulation or that interferes with any third party rights.
3. Use. You acknowledge that the individual agreeing to the license and opening a player account is an adult and that this license is for the use of the Game and the World on a single computer either for that adult or for one minor child that they are either the parent or legal guardian of whom they have authorized to use the account created for their use by the adult parent or guardian.
4. Aventurine Ownership of the Game and the World. Aventurine, or the licensors of any additional works incorporated into the Game and the World, own all rights and title to the Game and the World. This exclusive ownership includes all player accounts and characters, any player virtual content acquired in the World with the Game, computer code, art, animations, sounds, musical compositions, visual effects, characters, character names, stories, dialogue, dialog, locations, concepts, moral rights, documentation, "applets" incorporated into the Game and transcripts of the chat, character profile information, player generated recordings of games played the Game and the World, server technologies and everything created with the Game or in the World. You understand and acknowledge that Aventurine will constantly make changes to the Game and the World and will, in its sole discretion, modify features, functions or abilities of any element of the Game or the World, without limitation.
5. Darkfall Account. In order to play the Game in the World each player must establish an Account with the Darkfall online system. When creating an account you will provide Aventurine with personal and financial information as well as the Authentication Key provided to you when you purchased the Game. You must provide accurate information to Aventurine and update that information promptly after it changes. Once you establish your account you will select a player name and set up a password for your account. Do not share your player name or password with anyone else. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your account player name or password, and you will be responsible for all uses of your account player name or password, whether you authorize its use or not. In the event that you become aware of or reasonably suspect any breach of security, including without limitation any loss, theft, or unauthorized disclosure of your account player name or password, you must immediately notify Aventurine at the contact email address on the official Darkfall website.
6. Account Ownership. THE ACCOUNT YOU CREATE FOR DARKFALL ONLINE REPRESENTS YOUR LICENSE TO PLAY THE GAME IN THE WORLD. IT DOES NOT IMPART OR REPRESENT ANY OWNERSHIP RIGHT TO YOU IN ANY CHARACTERS, ITEM OR CONTENT IN THE GAME OR IN THE WORLD. YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT ALL OF THE CONTENT IN THE GAME AND THE WORLD ARE THE EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF AVENTURINE AND YOU HAVE NO PROPERTY RIGHT OR OTHER VESTED INTEREST OF ANY KIND IN YOUR ACCOUNT OR IN ANY OF THE IN-GAME CHARACTERS, ITEMS OR ATTRIBUTED ACQUIRED BY YOUR CHARACTERS IN THE GAME OR IN THE WORLD. YOU AGREE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ANY AND ALL RIGHTS TO YOUR ACCOUNT ARE OWNED BY AVENTURINE.
7. Management of Accounts. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT AVENTURINE, AT ITS SOLE DISCRETION, MAY SUSPEND, MODIFY, SUSPEND OR DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU. IF FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON YOU ACCOUNT IS TERMINATED, SUSPENDED OR ALTERED IN ANY MANNER YOU WILL NOT BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION FOR THE TIME YOU SPENT PLAYING THE GAME IN THE WORLD OR FOR ANY OTHER COMPENSATION. For informational purposes only, and not as a limitation of Aventurine’s rights, most adverse account actions are related violations of these Terms of Service or the EULA.
8. In Game and in World Conduct. Darkfall online is for the entertainment and enjoyment of all of its players. So, there are rules of conduct that help keep the game fun for everyone and also to protect Aventurine’s rights. You must comply with these rules while playing the Game in the World and also while posting on the related Darkfall relate forums, including those on any third party fan sites. These rules must be complied with by everyone who plays Darkfall online without exception. All account holders agree to comply with the rules of conduct. The rules set out here are in no way meant to limit any of Aventurine’s discretionary rights regarding accounts of conduct. They are guidelines that should be followed at all times. Aventurine retains the right to change these rules of conduct at any time.
a. Player Conduct. The following rules of conduct apply to all players within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites or forums:
i. While playing Darkfall online, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game.
ii. You may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
iii. You will not report players maliciously, or cause them to be investigated by Aventurine for misconduct or violation of these TOS or the EULA without reason.
iv. You may not post or communicate any player's real world information (name, address, account names, etc.) in the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
v. You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
vi. You may not post or link to any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive imagery or content within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
vii. When communicating in Darkfall online using Chat (including, without limitation, server wide chat and use of the whisper command), you may not spam, flood, or make duplicate posts.
viii. You may not impersonate any employee of Aventurine or anyone acting under the authority of Aventurine or its affiliates within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
ix. You may not violate any local, state, national, or international laws or regulations within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
x. You may not market, promote, advertise, or solicit within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
xi. You may not trick, cheat or defraud any fellow player out of game currency, items or any other in a game item of value, outside of the scope of in-game role-playing. You may not engage in these activities where out-of-game communications or real currency is involved.
xii. You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while in Darkfall online or on the official Darkfall online website.
xiii. You may not organize nor be a member of any Guild or other groups within the Game or the World that are based on, reflect or espouse any racist, sexist, anti-religious, anti-ethnic, anti-gay, or other hate mongering philosophies.
b. Player and Guild Names. Each player gets to select a player name. However, these names have certain restrictions on them. Guilds are also an important part of the Darkfall online community. So, the names of Guilds are also governed by the following rules.
i. You may not use any name that belongs to another person with the intent to impersonate that person, including any employee of Aventurine or anyone acting under the authority of Aventurine or its affiliates within the Game, the World or on the official Darkfall online web sites.
ii. You may not use any name that incorporates vulgar language or which are otherwise offensive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable.
iii. You may not use any name that belongs to a public figure, celebrity, or media personality.
iv. You may not use any name that is, contains, or is substantially similar to a trademark or service mark, whether registered or not.
v. You may not use any name that belongs to any religious figure or deity.
vi. You may not use any name that is from the Darkfall Game or World.
vii. You may not use any name that relates to drugs, sex, alcohol, or criminal activity.
c. Use of Darkfall content. You may use our images, text, and video or audio files from the Game and the World within the following rules.
i. The content must be used in a noncommercial context for private, personal use only.
ii. You must include all copyright and other notices associated with the content.
iii. You will not create or display and any content or videos of the Game or the World that alter the content in a negative manner to misrepresent the content or gameplay in a negative way.
iv. You acknowledge and agree any use of Darkfall content does not in any manner impart on you any rights whatsoever and that any content is the property of Aventurine and has not been conveyed to you except as permitted in these TOS and the EULA.
v. You agree that Aventurine has the right to request removal of your content at any time, for any reason or for no reason.
vi. You acknowledge and agree that you will not use our content on sites that contain or link to sites containing hacks or cheats, pornography, inflammatory content, infringing or unlawful content.
9. Transfer of Account or Virtual Items Prohibited. Aventurine does not allow or recognize the transfer of accounts or any virtual items acquired in the Game or the World. You cannot sell, purchase or trade any Account, or offer to sell, purchase or trade any Account. Similarly, since Aventurine owns all of the content in the Game and the World you cannot sell or purchase any virtual items or characters from the Game or the World. Similarly, you cannot trade in game items from the Game or the World for money or anything else of value from outside the Game or the World.
10. Disclosure of Information. You acknowledge and agree that Aventurine has the absolute right, at its sole discretion and without notice to you, to disclose your Internet Protocol (IP) address(es), personal information, Chat logs, and other information about you and your activities in response to a request by law enforcement, a court order or other legal process, if doing so may protect your safety or the safety of others or to protect or enforce Aventurine’s rights in the Game and the World.
11. Active Game and Account Monitoring. You agree that Aventurine may use whatever procedures or protocols it may deem necessary to monitor your computer and activity in the Game and the World. This may include, but is not limited to, monitoring your personal computer to determine the validity of your installation you account and the Game and to assure that you are not using any third party software that might violate these TOS or the EULA. You agree that Aventurine or its authorized agents may monitor, by any means, your computer’s CPU, operating system, video card, sound card and memory information in order to analyze and optimize your Game experience, improve and maintain the Game and the World or to provide customer service. If you request customer service or technical support, you understand and agree to Aventurine or its authorized agents engaging in remote access and review of your computer for purposes of such support. In addition, though not obliged to do so, Aventurine may monitor, record, review, modify or disclose any player chat in the Game of the World, whether voice or text, without notice, and you hereby consent to such monitoring, recording, review, modification or disclosure. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you understand that you participate in any chat in the Game or the World at your own risk.
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I didn't pay almost 60 dollars for the client.
I had to purchase an ACCOUNT.
The client was free.
I already have an ACCOUNT with Av. Av is now saying my account isn't valid in NA without paying another fee.
Where in that EULA/ ToS does it say anything about my limitted license being restricted to a single server? Where does it say that my Limitted lisence isn't valid outside EU?
AV DISTRIBUTED THE CLIENT FOR FREE AND THEN IS CHARGING NA USES FOR A COPY OF THE CLIENT TO USE ON AN NA SERVER!
^This
This whole NA server thing clearly shows me what kind of company we are dealing with, I liked DF as well but this? This is bullcrap on an SOE level. I support this idea. /cancelled
Jesus chrust clinet/account to play wow in US to have to make a new account and do a new billing system. So whats the difference here, oh so you have to buy a new clinet, bo fuucking ho.
I find it funny you were proven wrong, then simply got frustrated with a mis-typed reply. Oh and did you know you can call up Blizzard Account services and get a new cd key for around 5 bucks. My best friend did it twice when he sold two of his accounts. And you can upgrade from the trial client once you have a key. Care to re-post another frustrating reply?
Before this gets out hand, people need to know the facts.
Here are the options:
1. Stay on EU-1
2. Play on EU-1 and transfer to NA-1 after 3 months (there will most likely be a small fee). You don't need to buy a new account.
3. Buy a new account and play on NA-1 from the starting day
I had always planned on playing NA-1 from the starting day, so now I'm screwed out of some money. If I want to be cheap, I can just wait the 3 months, but right now, I think I'll just pay the money. Thanks for making a loyal customer feel cheated.
^This
This whole NA server thing clearly shows me what kind of company we are dealing with, I liked DF as well but this? This is bullcrap on an SOE level. I support this idea. /cancelled
Jesus chrust clinet/account to play wow in US to have to make a new account and do a new billing system. So whats the difference here, oh so you have to buy a new clinet, bo fuucking ho.
I find it funny you were proven wrong, then simply got frustrated with a mis-typed reply. Oh and did you know you can call up Blizzard Account services and get a new cd key for around 5 bucks. My best friend did it twice when he sold two of his accounts. And you can upgrade from the trial client once you have a key. Care to re-post another frustrating reply?
Jesus christ the point im making is you have to make a new a account if u want to play wow from eu to us and do a new billing system anyway. Lol so blizzard are now giving cd keys for $5???? Get a bloody grip hell we may as well all just buy the game from them then. newsflash blizzard dont hand out CD keys for $5.
Why? Because we can't transfer right away and they may have to charage us a small fee to transfer characters due to legal issues that anyone with half a brain saw comming when they had to get a new publisher?
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/cancelled
and it's not temporary, it's permanent.
AV is now officially a bad word. Whenever I get screwed in the future I shall say "I got AV'd."
It is possible to have a conversation, and disagree within that conversation, without having to resort to personal attacks, or comments intended to degrade individual(s).
Seriously, I know we're all capable of acting like civilized forum posters. Can we is the question. And I think we can.
Thread cleaned up
A new server is opening in 2 weeks, and many people planned on playing it from day 1. People were fine with rerolling their character, but buying a new account? (if you aren't waiting 3 months).
Just immagine if a new player bought an account yesterday just to learn and explore in preparation for the July NA server. They just got screwed.
Aventurine needs to feel some repercussion for their sloppy business practices.
Yeah sounds sloppy. But then again I'm not surprised, just another fumble in a long line of mistakes.
Or you could go with, "Don't Tasos me, bro"!
Why? Because we can't transfer right away and they may have to charage us a small fee to transfer characters due to legal issues that anyone with half a brain saw comming when they had to get a new publisher?
You know,
On the previous page I posted the entirety of the the ToS/ EULA I have to agree to in order to play the game.
Nowhere in it can I find anything that states that my limited lisence agreement is restricted by server location. Not anywhere.
I also don't recall purchasing a client from Av. In fact I didn't. I downloaded my client 2 weeks before I paid for my ACCOUNT. Now they say I have to buy a client in order to play on the NA server when it launches. No one was required to purchase a client in the last 4 months, but you will if you want to play on the NA server at launch.
So what happens to my ACCOUNT I paid for. Cause I was never required to achnowledge that my account was only usable on a EU server once in the last 4 months.
You seem to know a lot about law.
Maybe you can explain it to me. God knows you seem to be avoiding it on the official forums.
Or you could go with, "Don't Tasos me, bro"!
That works.
C'mon, this is DF forums, we are not weak, we can handle forum PVP.
Back on topic before I draw a warning. I think the OP's plan is sound, consumers vote with their wallets, and if anyone is displesed its time to move on and wait for the next great game. (MO maybe)
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Lol fail...this is way beyond fail. this game is a chunk of fosilized crap. they took my CC and ran up a 4,900 dollar bill...(Still fighting it) so yea cant wait to see this place burn in hell
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C'mon, this is DF forums, we are not weak, we can handle forum PVP.
Back on topic before I draw a warning. I think the OP's plan is sound, consumers vote with their wallets, and if anyone is displesed its time to move on and wait for the next great game. (MO maybe)
From the look of ForumFall I'd say that the OP's plan is already in motion. It will be interesting to see if Tasos back-pedals on this one. Anyone willing to make a wager?
I'll go on record as predicting that Aventurine caves on this one and reverses their policy they made today. I think they WILL allow current subscribers to delete their current EU-1 character and make a new character on the NA server without any charge or the need to re-purchase the client.
To me it only makes sense, as they will be losing a good percentage of their customers otherwise. I guess we will see if I am correct or not July 7th.
"temporarily" my ass. AV'll never get another penny from me.
C'mon, this is DF forums, we are not weak, we can handle forum PVP.
Point taken.