Too early to tell. We'll need 3-6 months after launch to know for sure. Although I'm pretty certain that if it does, it won't be due to the reasons offered by the OP. Aion was never meant to be Lineage III.
Should change the thread to "Will it fail in the West". It's breaking all kinds of records in Korea and China and already got close to 2million subs 7months in and it's still growing.
It already passed the fail/success question, but it might be different in NA/EU.
As a matter of fact does the OP have a clue? getting more and more carebear with each patch will get you more subs, but that's not the point. It's already a huge game, why on earth does it have 'dark days ahead' and is going to shutdown lol.
It's going to be interesting to see if the company can survive another MMO shutdown, but things are not looking good core players canceling their pre orders left and right..the game getting more Craebear with each patch..dark days ahead for Ncsoft.
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You are an idiot. Aion already succeeded. Even if it doesn't do well in america, going from a "Money making view" Which for NCsoft, aion is already a very very large success. This is one of the largest successes to date and it's only reached korea and china. America could only sell 100 copies and aion is still a success. Why the hell would they shut it down? Back to the origional sentence, you are an idiot.
Should change the thread to "Will it fail in the West". It's breaking all kinds of records in Korea and China and already got close to 2million subs 7months in and it's still growing. It already passed the fail/success question, but it might be different in NA/EU. As a matter of fact does the OP have a clue? getting more and more carebear with each patch will get you more subs, but that's not the point. It's already a huge game, why on earth does it have 'dark days ahead' and is going to shutdown lol.
No, Op is simply a idiot. If he phrased the thread as "will it fail in west" it would be a different story. But he was litteraly talking about failure as in NCsoft pulling the plug on aion due to lack of income! Absurd.
Unless several changes to westernize it and update gathering and crafting system, my guess will be that it will just be another run of the mill mmo that will start losing subs after 30 day box access.
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Reading through this thread I have to ask myself are hardcore PVP players their own worst enemy? I mean this guy shows up with four of his buddies on the beta boards starts calling Aion "his game" and then starts making demands on Liv and Brian until they ban him. All he has accomplished is looking like a idiot and convincing developers that his is the wrong demographic to cater too.
The game will fail because the western market doesn't take kindly to hacks and bots. This reason, above all others, is stronger than the rest.
As a small time game developer myself, I have to say I am dissappointed in these developers allowing the client to control data. This is like game programming 101.
It's going to be interesting to see if the company can survive another MMO shutdown, but things are not looking good core players canceling their pre orders left and right..the game getting more Craebear with each patch..dark days ahead for Ncsoft.
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Jotull, in all seriousness, Aion will be so far from a fail. I don't believe it will achieve millions in the west (though one never knows) but I truly believe it will be very successful. Hardened gamers or vets may not like it but it will be very accessible to the average person for sure.
as for me it will be my main game.
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Well I'm glad I'm not blind. It says exp recieved from quests not the actual number OF those quests. Perhaps you should read your charts before you post them. Edit: I've seen this chart before BTW, copy paste a pro does not make.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Well I'm glad I'm not blind. It says exp recieved from quests not the actual number OF those quests. Perhaps you should read your charts before you post them. Edit: I've seen this chart before BTW, copy paste a pro does not make.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Less quest exp gained DOES NOT EQUAL NO QUESTS PAST 30!!!!
That was your origional complaint, please stick to one objection before moving on to another.
How can you judge a game's quests based solely off of a bar graph? So the quest exp might not give that much percentage wise, what if the mobs your killing give you a significant enough amount to make it not feel grindy?
You wouldn't know that since of course you already judged the game to be lacking, without even giving it a shot.
Edit: I personally probably won't be playing this game, merely because as of recently I've grown distasteful of the PVP community. Almost everyone in it is far too "hardcore" for me.
Well I'm glad I'm not blind. It says exp recieved from quests not the actual number OF those quests. Perhaps you should read your charts before you post them. Edit: I've seen this chart before BTW, copy paste a pro does not make.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Less quest exp gained DOES NOT EQUAL NO QUESTS PAST 30!!!!
Originally posted by drbaltazar outch after level 35 it gets mm very consuming to level up?gees
What does this MEAN??!?!?!
Ahhhh.
easy
4 million xp gained from quest
70 million xp total needed to level up
so this mean you only have to grind 64 million xp at lvl 44
or put another way at lvl 44 you ll need to grind 90% of xp to level up
only 10% xp or so you ll get from quest
No I understand the chart, I don't understand your posts... The way you break up your sentences and you don't finish your thought before you move on to the next one.
Well I'm glad I'm not blind. It says exp recieved from quests not the actual number OF those quests. Perhaps you should read your charts before you post them. Edit: I've seen this chart before BTW, copy paste a pro does not make.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Less quest exp gained DOES NOT EQUAL NO QUESTS PAST 30!!!!
That was your origional complaintt.
You have issues.
/sigh I'm sorry that I disagree with you but that doesn't make me wrong.
Perhaps you should learn how to have a disagreement without sinking to this level...
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Too early to tell. We'll need 3-6 months after launch to know for sure. Although I'm pretty certain that if it does, it won't be due to the reasons offered by the OP. Aion was never meant to be Lineage III.
No, it wont fail but it wont be a big success either. It simply does not have anything truly new to draw people away from WoW and other MMORPGs.
And the weird Anime style will probably scare some people away as well.
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Should change the thread to "Will it fail in the West". It's breaking all kinds of records in Korea and China and already got close to 2million subs 7months in and it's still growing.
It already passed the fail/success question, but it might be different in NA/EU.
As a matter of fact does the OP have a clue? getting more and more carebear with each patch will get you more subs, but that's not the point. It's already a huge game, why on earth does it have 'dark days ahead' and is going to shutdown lol.
You are an idiot. Aion already succeeded. Even if it doesn't do well in america, going from a "Money making view" Which for NCsoft, aion is already a very very large success. This is one of the largest successes to date and it's only reached korea and china. America could only sell 100 copies and aion is still a success. Why the hell would they shut it down? Back to the origional sentence, you are an idiot.
No, Op is simply a idiot. If he phrased the thread as "will it fail in west" it would be a different story. But he was litteraly talking about failure as in NCsoft pulling the plug on aion due to lack of income! Absurd.
This is the biggest thing for NCsoft to date.
Unless several changes to westernize it and update gathering and crafting system, my guess will be that it will just be another run of the mill mmo that will start losing subs after 30 day box access.
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Reading through this thread I have to ask myself are hardcore PVP players their own worst enemy? I mean this guy shows up with four of his buddies on the beta boards starts calling Aion "his game" and then starts making demands on Liv and Brian until they ban him. All he has accomplished is looking like a idiot and convincing developers that his is the wrong demographic to cater too.
The game will fail because the western market doesn't take kindly to hacks and bots. This reason, above all others, is stronger than the rest.
As a small time game developer myself, I have to say I am dissappointed in these developers allowing the client to control data. This is like game programming 101.
Because it's failing in Asia maybe. Most players bail after level 30 because that's when quests stop and the xp is grind grind grind.
That's what I hear.
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Jotull, in all seriousness, Aion will be so far from a fail. I don't believe it will achieve millions in the west (though one never knows) but I truly believe it will be very successful. Hardened gamers or vets may not like it but it will be very accessible to the average person for sure.
as for me it will be my main game.
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Because it's failing in Asia maybe. Most players bail after level 30 because that's when quests stop and the xp is grind grind grind.
That's what I hear.
Really? I've not heard anyone complain about quests falling off, and I've got a few friends on the Korean servers.
I doubt that the quests just "fall off" since I'm sure I would have heard abou this before now.
Because it's failing in Asia maybe. Most players bail after level 30 because that's when quests stop and the xp is grind grind grind.
That's what I hear.
I doubt that the quests just "fall off" since I'm sure I would have heard abou this before now.
Uhm..yes they do. you haven't read a lot then, and don't start saying I'm wrong now..it's black on white, k, and everyone says it's like that.
elliotinaion.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/elyos-exp-chart-for-lvl-2040/
Well I'm glad I'm not blind.
It says exp recieved from quests not the actual number OF those quests.
Perhaps you should read your charts before you post them.
Edit: I've seen this chart before BTW, copy paste a pro does not make.
Because it's failing in Asia maybe. Most players bail after level 30 because that's when quests stop and the xp is grind grind grind.
That's what I hear.
I doubt that the quests just "fall off" since I'm sure I would have heard abou this before now.
Uhm..yes they do. you haven't read a lot then, and don't start saying I'm wrong now..it's black on white, k, and everyone says it's like that.
www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php
outch after level 35 it gets mm very consuming to level up?gees
What does this MEAN??!?!?!
Ahhhh.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Less quest exp gained DOES NOT EQUAL NO QUESTS PAST 30!!!!
That was your origional complaint, please stick to one objection before moving on to another.
How can you judge a game's quests based solely off of a bar graph? So the quest exp might not give that much percentage wise, what if the mobs your killing give you a significant enough amount to make it not feel grindy?
You wouldn't know that since of course you already judged the game to be lacking, without even giving it a shot.
Edit: I personally probably won't be playing this game, merely because as of recently I've grown distasteful of the PVP community. Almost everyone in it is far too "hardcore" for me.
if you make a chart of almost every other mmo out there you wud get roughly the same thing.
Most quests involve killing stuff and killing stuff alone give more exp then the quest you finish with it
You always grind be it with a quest or not, every quest you can finish with killing stuff is bonus.
works like that in all quest based mmo's
So that chart to me still dusnt proof i cant reach 50 by just doing quests.
What does this MEAN??!?!?!
Ahhhh.
easy
4 million xp gained from quest
70 million xp total needed to level up
so this mean you only have to grind 64 million xp at lvl 44
or put another way at lvl 44 you ll need to grind 90% of xp to level up
only 10% xp or so you ll get from quest
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Less quest exp gained DOES NOT EQUAL NO QUESTS PAST 30!!!!
That was your origional complaintt.
You have issues.
What does this MEAN??!?!?!
Ahhhh.
easy
4 million xp gained from quest
70 million xp total needed to level up
so this mean you only have to grind 64 million xp at lvl 44
or put another way at lvl 44 you ll need to grind 90% of xp to level up
only 10% xp or so you ll get from quest
No I understand the chart, I don't understand your posts... The way you break up your sentences and you don't finish your thought before you move on to the next one.
Its hard to understand you.
What don't you understand?
If you to grind 90% of your xp and less than 10% comes from quests..yes quests xp drops relative to grind XP. You'll need to grind a lot more.
Yes, you might still have the same amount of quests, but if they give neglectable xp, what is the point? My point is still correct. I said I heard Asian players leave after lvl 30 because that's when the ridiculous grind starts.
Less quest exp gained DOES NOT EQUAL NO QUESTS PAST 30!!!!
That was your origional complaintt.
You have issues.
/sigh I'm sorry that I disagree with you but that doesn't make me wrong.
Perhaps you should learn how to have a disagreement without sinking to this level...
Not by a long shot, the XP goes from
lvl 30 -6k xp-
lvl 44 -70k xp-
That's over 10 times as much xp in 14 levels.
Not by a long shot, the XP goes from
lvl 30 -6k xp-
lvl 44 -70k xp-
That's over 10 times as much xp in 14 levels.
You didn't disprove him, you didn't compare it to another game, you just said.
NO YOUR WRONG!!!
This doens't prove your point, this just makes you seem like you are trying way too hard to prove your point.
Post another chart on another game. Compare, Contrast.
Have FACTS <---
Also where is your chart showing how the mob exp changes per level too.
There are so many varriables you are ignoring.