Furthermore, I don't know if you played UO, but people usually hung out in their towers or at the bank. Not the orc fort. We went out of our way to create something different for everyone to enjoy.
I think his post was pretty good and hit the nail on the head in many areas, and all the responses you see here just goes to show the truth hurts.
Oh look, another philistine on the sidewalk.
Oh look another who can't read, all they see is "OMG RPER'S GETTING ATTACKED"
As an Rper myself i knew when i first read this article the responses would be off the wall, So many Rper's get so butthurt over anything, hell they can barely get along with each other without talking behind each others backs, critiquing how everyone else Rp's, forming there little RP clicks basically shutting out anyone new from RPing.
This thread just proved alot about what he was talking about, just look how the RPer's here are acting.
I'll start Rping again when RPer's learn to grow up.
I will agree not all are like that, but in the games i have played, on many different servers, Rp servers have started out nice, then went down the crapper. Rper's are Rper's worst enemies, or are they just Rping drama?
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
Furthermore, I don't know if you played UO, but people usually hung out in their towers or at the bank. Not the orc fort. We went out of our way to create something different for everyone to enjoy.
Thats pretty awesome, i'm glad you are showing positive stuff about Rper's instead of just attacking Dana like most of these people.
There are good times i have had with Rp, but lately i see mostly bad sucks to be me i guess lol.
Anyways i'm just posting the negatives because Rper's seem to not want to admit to all the bad crap that happens in these communities.
I'm sure i'll get more RPer HATE, alot of Rper's get over emotional and want you to die if you say anything negative about RP.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
There are good times i have had with Rp, but lately i see mostly bad sucks to be me i guess lol. Anyways i'm just posting the negatives because Rper's seem to not want to admit to all the bad crap that happens in these communities. I'm sure i'll get more RPer HATE, alot of Rper's get over emotional and want you to die if you say anything negative about RP.
The article has nothing to do with some of bad crap that happens in the communities. It disregards anything accomplished by said communities and downgrades the roleplayer in a sweeping generalization. You are raising a totally different topic. And quite honestly your issue alone is not all that special neither. What community has such amazing cohesiveness to not have some issues? PvP? Umm no. I've been a part of that community and sometimes it can be like tossing yourself in a den of rabid dogs. PvE? Nope been a part of that too and sometimes you would think it was a PvP community with how competitive these guys get.
Simple fact is there isn't any community without its issues and bad crap as you state. Acting as if it is something totally unique to roleplaying communities is a stretch. There is a reason why many players who simply do not rp wish to go to such servers. Other than those who wish to troll and harass there are those (and some admitted in this thread alone) that go because the cohesiveness in those communities are still rather strong. And your whole "butthurt" statement earlier...so pvpers don't get that way? So pve'ers don't get that way? No, they all do because they all invest something into their gaming and it means something to them.
Whether a pvp player, a pve player or rper, you are a person and a gamer. We all hold what we enjoy most close to heart. Yeah maybe too close sometimes but it doesn't matter your approach to the game. We all care about it the same and respond when that manner is attacked in some way. This article is generalizing many rpers and downgrading them...how else should they respond to it? Happy joy joy?
Personally, I don't have a problem with RP in and of itself. However, I do have a problem with those who refuse to back up their RP with action. It's like someone who constantly deplores the state of the upbringing of the local youth but doesn't lift a finger to try to change things.
Let me tell you a little story about the type of roleplayer I hate...
I play EVE Online, and once upon a time I was part of an alliance by the name of Star Fraction. They were a roleplay focused alliance with a rather radical in-game ideology which placed them in opposition all of the in-game NPC empires. As such, we would declare war on those corporations whose roleplay supported said empires. What was really annoying and ironic, however, is that when the war decs went live and we started killing members of said empire-supporting corps, in most instances they would complain about being attacked, stressing how they didn't want to fight or just refusing to engage even when they had a numerical and/or tactical advantage. In essence, they claimed to support their empire of choice, but, when the gauntlet was down, they refused to back up said claims.
-Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Oh look another who can't read, all they see is "OMG RPER'S GETTING ATTACKED" As an Rper myself i knew when i first read this article the responses would be off the wall, So many Rper's get so butthurt over anything, hell they can barely get along with each other without talking behind each others backs, critiquing how everyone else Rp's, forming there little RP clicks basically shutting out anyone new from RPing. This thread just proved alot about what he was talking about, just look how the RPer's here are acting. snip
Firstly the majority of replies have been from non roleplayers. Secondly on the whole they have been well thought out and articulate certainly not "omg blah blah blah" or "off the wall"as you claim. I wonder if you actually read any responses. Thirdly the majority have critisised the style of the piece (or should I say lack of it) rather than the topic that was addressed.
Like the article there is very little of merit in your post. That which there may be is lost in your 'rant', you are behaving in precisely the fashion that you suposedly abhor. Or maybe you are role playing a petulant teenager, perhaps you should stamp and pout and maybe scream a little because your point isn't coming across too well.
Oh look another who can't read, all they see is "OMG RPER'S GETTING ATTACKED" As an Rper myself i knew when i first read this article the responses would be off the wall, So many Rper's get so butthurt over anything, hell they can barely get along with each other without talking behind each others backs, critiquing how everyone else Rp's, forming there little RP clicks basically shutting out anyone new from RPing. This thread just proved alot about what he was talking about, just look how the RPer's here are acting. snip
Firstly the majority of replies have been from non roleplayers. Secondly on the whole they have been well thought out and articulate certainly not "omg blah blah blah" or "off the wall"as you claim. I wonder if you actually read any responses. Thirdly the majority have critisised the style of the piece (or should I say lack of it) rather than the topic that was addressed.
Like the article there is very little of merit in your post. That which there may be is lost in your 'rant', you are behaving in precisely the fashion that you suposedly abhor. Or maybe you are role playing a petulant teenager, perhaps you should stamp and pout and maybe scream a little because your point isn't coming across too well.
I see another attacker, perhaps you should take your own advice, you seem to be ranting like a petulant teenager, hyporcrite much?
If you haven't noticed i have attacked those who have chosen to attack me, try growing up a little.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
Oh look another who can't read, all they see is "OMG RPER'S GETTING ATTACKED" This thread just proved alot about what he was talking about, just look how the RPer's here are acting. I'll start Rping again when RPer's learn to grow up. I will agree not all are like that, but in the games i have played, on many different servers, Rp servers have started out nice, then went down the crapper. Rper's are Rper's worst enemies, or are they just Rping drama?
Not an RPer even, just pointing out the ignoramuses -- like yourself. Way to miss the point.
I see another attacker, perhaps you should take your own advice, you seem to be ranting like a petulant teenager, hyporcrite much? If you haven't noticed i have attacked those who have chosen to attack me, try growing up a little.
Paranoia my friend, no wonder you see attackers everywhere. Re read my post particularly pay attention to the three points I made. You seem to have trouble with comprehension so this exchange is pointless.
Was that banner ad for mmorpg hireing for new writers always there at the top of the page, or did that just start shortly after they posted this story?
Oh look another who can't read, all they see is "OMG RPER'S GETTING ATTACKED" This thread just proved alot about what he was talking about, just look how the RPer's here are acting. I'll start Rping again when RPer's learn to grow up. I will agree not all are like that, but in the games i have played, on many different servers, Rp servers have started out nice, then went down the crapper. Rper's are Rper's worst enemies, or are they just Rping drama?
Not an RPer even, just pointing out the ignoramuses -- like yourself. Way to miss the point.
You mean like yourself, seeing what you want to see, if your looking for ignoramuses, look in the mirror.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
I see another attacker, perhaps you should take your own advice, you seem to be ranting like a petulant teenager, hyporcrite much? If you haven't noticed i have attacked those who have chosen to attack me, try growing up a little.
Paranoia my friend, no wonder you see attackers everywhere. Re read my post particularly pay attention to the three points I made. You seem to have trouble with comprehension so this exchange is pointless.
Not paranoid at all, you tried putting me down buy masking it in your little RP comment, nice try i guess.
but yes this exchange is pointless you see what you want to see and i see it the way i see it. have a good day.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
Was that banner ad for mmorpg hireing for new writers always there at the top of the page, or did that just start shortly after they posted this story?
I've seen it up there for a long time now.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
Was that banner ad for mmorpg hireing for new writers always there at the top of the page, or did that just start shortly after they posted this story?
Role-playing servers have become a beacon for two kinds of player: those who claim to be RPers, and those who love to annoy people who claim to be role players. And of the two, the second group is the more intellectually honest. - Dana Massey
Thank you for the insult (as well as the others in the message/rant). So staff are exempt from the Rules of Conduct that are enforced in the forums to users? Hummm...
/block
Oh wait, that's considered role-playing... then consider this as one less person to be reading of your works.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
I have been following MMORPG.com for many years looking for information, discussions and advice about my hobby mmoRPG's. The past couple of years I feel it has declined as more and more writers get onboard and MMORPG.com seems to go for quantity instead of quality.
This rant finally tipped the scale to the point where I see no purpose in coming here anymore. If a rant like this can be posted and an official opinion of a staff writer, then it is time to seek out websites to get my mmorpg curiosity covered.
You might have gotten a lot of new users provoked by this excuse of an artcle, but you also have one less daily reader.
I have been following MMORPG.com for many years looking for information, discussions and advice about my hobby mmoRPG's. The past couple of years I feel it has declined as more and more writers get onboard and MMORPG.com seems to go for quantity instead of quality. This rant finally tipped the scale to the point where I see no purpose in coming here anymore. If a rant like this can be posted and an official opinion of a staff writer, then it is time to seek out websites to get my mmorpg curiosity covered. You might have gotten a lot of new users provoked by this excuse of an artcle, but you also have one less daily reader.
Nearly every one of the games on the list here has its own game forums to discuss the game in. We dont have to use this site. Its just kinda convenient. And that convenience is what mmorpg.com lives off of. In fact, they have bargained their convenience is so important that a wide sweeping insult to the majority of its readers is of little concern.
As far as they are concerned, you would still even willingly go into the RPG section of these forums and continue discussing how much you like to role play and your personal feelings on the subject, without further concern that this jack ass massey wouldnt steal your very words and use them in his next big set of sweeping generalizations.
There's really nothing here for me so ill be joining you. If you do find alternate sites similar to this one feel free to send me a link.
I think his post was pretty good and hit the nail on the head in many areas, and all the responses you see here just goes to show the truth hurts.
This is what's called a "cop-out" arguement. Or in the world of Journalism, a world that Dana wishes he was truely apart of, it's termed a self-confirming arguement.
In other words, it's pointless and hollow, and means little. Basically, that above statement translates into:
"Dana is right. Dana is right because people are pissed off. People are pissed off because Dana is right."
See a problem there? It's called circular logic. It's what Republicans and Retards have found themsleves to be quite good at attempting to seed into the general frame of reference.
His article was about as far from the truth as a writen piece of literature could ever be, in these particular circumstances.
If I ever see a "By Dana Massey" tag ever again, it'll be far too soon.
Anyone here wonder why Dana used to be the Editor here, and now isn't? It's probably because he let too many trash articles into the cycle.
The guy's an idiot and why MMORPG published that trash article is beyond me.
Yes there are issues on RP servers. The range of RP styles of play are as diverse as tastes in PvP. FFA Full Loot through arenas with no real penalties. Compared to "a paladin should not be killing BABY trolls!" and "My fire giant will marry the undead gnome if they feel like it. That's love!" -- yeah, you've got as many wacko's and jerks in RP as you do in any other areas but to claim as he does... pft... the guy's a twit and shows a total lack of respect to that portion of the community.
Many create chars on RP servers, not to harrass but to find a more mature, less agressive, community to be with. The RP servers tend to be far more tollerant of "stupid questions" and "just learning this stuff..." than the other servers with the punk "I pwnd j00!!!" "L2P idiot!" type commentary you find on many other servers. That idiot didn't even tip his hat to the gamers that go to those servers just for the "maturity" reason which is a *VERY* large portion of those communities. That has squat to do with harassing and attempts at pseudo martyrdom he claims.
It doesn't take many "victimizers" to trash the environment of those places any more so than it takes a large portion of the population to mess up an FFA PvP situation -- *IF* they can get away with it and having the reverse of that, the overly zealous RP'ers out there, to help file tons of complaints... Yeah, these servers do tend to be higher on the GM list than most others but a funny little one that twit should look at is the games that offer RP servers: Those that also offer FFA PvP servers... The FFA PvP tend to be a close second behind the RP servers for complaints and surpass the RP servers at times. Again, it doesn't take many "griefer" types to mess up an other wise good game enviornment.
Really, why the hell did they publish such a bogus article? The only explanation I can come up with is if the publisher/editor doesn't know diddley about those types of servers...
I think his post was pretty good and hit the nail on the head in many areas, and all the responses you see here just goes to show the truth hurts.
This is what's called a "cop-out" arguement. Or in the world of Journalism, a world that Dana wishes he was truely apart of, it's termed a self-confirming arguement.
In other words, it's pointless and hollow, and means little. Basically, that above statement translates into:
"Dana is right. Dana is right because people are pissed off. People are pissed off because Dana is right."
See a problem there? It's called circular logic. It's what Republicans and Retards have found themsleves to be quite good at attempting to seed into the general frame of reference.
His article was about as far from the truth as a writen piece of literature could ever be, in these particular circumstances.
If I ever see a "By Dana Massey" tag ever again, it'll be far too soon.
Anyone here wonder why Dana used to be the Editor here, and now isn't? It's probably because he let too many trash articles into the cycle.
What i love about this post is he attacks people (to make himself feel better) has a problem with what Dana wrote so hates on him, but like the hypocrite he exposed himself to be he attacks republicans and mentally challenged people in one swoop. (so he was wrong in what he said and is attacking others and thats wrong but its okay for you and other to attack, riiiiiggghhhttt)
Then keeps on attacking Dana like he somehow knows better heh.
Oh please fill this out in triplicate while your here, so we can investigate further:
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
The guy's an idiot and why MMORPG published that trash article is beyond me. Yes there are issues on RP servers. The range of RP styles of play are as diverse as tastes in PvP. FFA Full Loot through arenas with no real penalties. Compared to "a paladin should not be killing BABY trolls!" and "My fire giant will marry the undead gnome if they feel like it. That's love!" -- yeah, you've got as many wacko's and jerks in RP as you do in any other areas but to claim as he does... pft... the guy's a twit and shows a total lack of respect to that portion of the community. Many create chars on RP servers, not to harrass but to find a more mature, less agressive, community to be with. The RP servers tend to be far more tollerant of "stupid questions" and "just learning this stuff..." than the other servers with the punk "I pwnd j00!!!" "L2P idiot!" type commentary you find on many other servers. That idiot didn't even tip his hat to the gamers that go to those servers just for the "maturity" reason which is a *VERY* large portion of those communities. That has squat to do with harassing and attempts at pseudo martyrdom he claims. It doesn't take many "victimizers" to trash the environment of those places any more so than it takes a large portion of the population to mess up an FFA PvP situation -- *IF* they can get away with it and having the reverse of that, the overly zealous RP'ers out there, to help file tons of complaints... Yeah, these servers do tend to be higher on the GM list than most others but a funny little one that twit should look at is the games that offer RP servers: Those that also offer FFA PvP servers... The FFA PvP tend to be a close second behind the RP servers for complaints and surpass the RP servers at times. Again, it doesn't take many "griefer" types to mess up an other wise good game enviornment. Really, why the hell did they publish such a bogus article? The only explanation I can come up with is if the publisher/editor doesn't know diddley about those types of servers...
you probably want to fill out that form too. -pat pat-
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
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Furthermore, I don't know if you played UO, but people usually hung out in their towers or at the bank. Not the orc fort. We went out of our way to create something different for everyone to enjoy.
Play a role! Shadowclan
Oh look, another philistine on the sidewalk.
Oh look another who can't read, all they see is "OMG RPER'S GETTING ATTACKED"
As an Rper myself i knew when i first read this article the responses would be off the wall, So many Rper's get so butthurt over anything, hell they can barely get along with each other without talking behind each others backs, critiquing how everyone else Rp's, forming there little RP clicks basically shutting out anyone new from RPing.
This thread just proved alot about what he was talking about, just look how the RPer's here are acting.
I'll start Rping again when RPer's learn to grow up.
I will agree not all are like that, but in the games i have played, on many different servers, Rp servers have started out nice, then went down the crapper. Rper's are Rper's worst enemies, or are they just Rping drama?
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Thats pretty awesome, i'm glad you are showing positive stuff about Rper's instead of just attacking Dana like most of these people.
There are good times i have had with Rp, but lately i see mostly bad sucks to be me i guess lol.
Anyways i'm just posting the negatives because Rper's seem to not want to admit to all the bad crap that happens in these communities.
I'm sure i'll get more RPer HATE, alot of Rper's get over emotional and want you to die if you say anything negative about RP.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
The article has nothing to do with some of bad crap that happens in the communities. It disregards anything accomplished by said communities and downgrades the roleplayer in a sweeping generalization. You are raising a totally different topic. And quite honestly your issue alone is not all that special neither. What community has such amazing cohesiveness to not have some issues? PvP? Umm no. I've been a part of that community and sometimes it can be like tossing yourself in a den of rabid dogs. PvE? Nope been a part of that too and sometimes you would think it was a PvP community with how competitive these guys get.
Simple fact is there isn't any community without its issues and bad crap as you state. Acting as if it is something totally unique to roleplaying communities is a stretch. There is a reason why many players who simply do not rp wish to go to such servers. Other than those who wish to troll and harass there are those (and some admitted in this thread alone) that go because the cohesiveness in those communities are still rather strong. And your whole "butthurt" statement earlier...so pvpers don't get that way? So pve'ers don't get that way? No, they all do because they all invest something into their gaming and it means something to them.
Whether a pvp player, a pve player or rper, you are a person and a gamer. We all hold what we enjoy most close to heart. Yeah maybe too close sometimes but it doesn't matter your approach to the game. We all care about it the same and respond when that manner is attacked in some way. This article is generalizing many rpers and downgrading them...how else should they respond to it? Happy joy joy?
Personally, I don't have a problem with RP in and of itself. However, I do have a problem with those who refuse to back up their RP with action. It's like someone who constantly deplores the state of the upbringing of the local youth but doesn't lift a finger to try to change things.
Let me tell you a little story about the type of roleplayer I hate...
I play EVE Online, and once upon a time I was part of an alliance by the name of Star Fraction. They were a roleplay focused alliance with a rather radical in-game ideology which placed them in opposition all of the in-game NPC empires. As such, we would declare war on those corporations whose roleplay supported said empires. What was really annoying and ironic, however, is that when the war decs went live and we started killing members of said empire-supporting corps, in most instances they would complain about being attacked, stressing how they didn't want to fight or just refusing to engage even when they had a numerical and/or tactical advantage. In essence, they claimed to support their empire of choice, but, when the gauntlet was down, they refused to back up said claims.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Firstly the majority of replies have been from non roleplayers. Secondly on the whole they have been well thought out and articulate certainly not "omg blah blah blah" or "off the wall"as you claim. I wonder if you actually read any responses. Thirdly the majority have critisised the style of the piece (or should I say lack of it) rather than the topic that was addressed.
Like the article there is very little of merit in your post. That which there may be is lost in your 'rant', you are behaving in precisely the fashion that you suposedly abhor. Or maybe you are role playing a petulant teenager, perhaps you should stamp and pout and maybe scream a little because your point isn't coming across too well.
Firstly the majority of replies have been from non roleplayers. Secondly on the whole they have been well thought out and articulate certainly not "omg blah blah blah" or "off the wall"as you claim. I wonder if you actually read any responses. Thirdly the majority have critisised the style of the piece (or should I say lack of it) rather than the topic that was addressed.
Like the article there is very little of merit in your post. That which there may be is lost in your 'rant', you are behaving in precisely the fashion that you suposedly abhor. Or maybe you are role playing a petulant teenager, perhaps you should stamp and pout and maybe scream a little because your point isn't coming across too well.
I see another attacker, perhaps you should take your own advice, you seem to be ranting like a petulant teenager, hyporcrite much?
If you haven't noticed i have attacked those who have chosen to attack me, try growing up a little.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Not an RPer even, just pointing out the ignoramuses -- like yourself. Way to miss the point.
" In Defeat, Malice; In Victory, Revenge! "
Paranoia my friend, no wonder you see attackers everywhere. Re read my post particularly pay attention to the three points I made. You seem to have trouble with comprehension so this exchange is pointless.
Was that banner ad for mmorpg hireing for new writers always there at the top of the page, or did that just start shortly after they posted this story?
Not an RPer even, just pointing out the ignoramuses -- like yourself. Way to miss the point.
You mean like yourself, seeing what you want to see, if your looking for ignoramuses, look in the mirror.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Paranoia my friend, no wonder you see attackers everywhere. Re read my post particularly pay attention to the three points I made. You seem to have trouble with comprehension so this exchange is pointless.
Not paranoid at all, you tried putting me down buy masking it in your little RP comment, nice try i guess.
but yes this exchange is pointless you see what you want to see and i see it the way i see it. have a good day.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
I've seen it up there for a long time now.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
No it has been up there for a very long time.
If this article were PVP, it was just one-shotted by Sanya Weathers.
Role-playing servers have become a beacon for two kinds of player: those who claim to be RPers, and those who love to annoy people who claim to be role players. And of the two, the second group is the more intellectually honest. - Dana Massey
Thank you for the insult (as well as the others in the message/rant). So staff are exempt from the Rules of Conduct that are enforced in the forums to users? Hummm...
/block
Oh wait, that's considered role-playing... then consider this as one less person to be reading of your works.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
I have been following MMORPG.com for many years looking for information, discussions and advice about my hobby mmoRPG's. The past couple of years I feel it has declined as more and more writers get onboard and MMORPG.com seems to go for quantity instead of quality.
This rant finally tipped the scale to the point where I see no purpose in coming here anymore. If a rant like this can be posted and an official opinion of a staff writer, then it is time to seek out websites to get my mmorpg curiosity covered.
You might have gotten a lot of new users provoked by this excuse of an artcle, but you also have one less daily reader.
Nearly every one of the games on the list here has its own game forums to discuss the game in. We dont have to use this site. Its just kinda convenient. And that convenience is what mmorpg.com lives off of. In fact, they have bargained their convenience is so important that a wide sweeping insult to the majority of its readers is of little concern.
As far as they are concerned, you would still even willingly go into the RPG section of these forums and continue discussing how much you like to role play and your personal feelings on the subject, without further concern that this jack ass massey wouldnt steal your very words and use them in his next big set of sweeping generalizations.
There's really nothing here for me so ill be joining you. If you do find alternate sites similar to this one feel free to send me a link.
Please add me to the list.
This is what's called a "cop-out" arguement. Or in the world of Journalism, a world that Dana wishes he was truely apart of, it's termed a self-confirming arguement.
In other words, it's pointless and hollow, and means little. Basically, that above statement translates into:
"Dana is right. Dana is right because people are pissed off. People are pissed off because Dana is right."
See a problem there? It's called circular logic. It's what Republicans and Retards have found themsleves to be quite good at attempting to seed into the general frame of reference.
His article was about as far from the truth as a writen piece of literature could ever be, in these particular circumstances.
If I ever see a "By Dana Massey" tag ever again, it'll be far too soon.
Anyone here wonder why Dana used to be the Editor here, and now isn't? It's probably because he let too many trash articles into the cycle.
Now that we have brought politcs into this thread , its prolly time to shut it down.
Think everyone has stated thier thoughts by now.......
The guy's an idiot and why MMORPG published that trash article is beyond me.
Yes there are issues on RP servers. The range of RP styles of play are as diverse as tastes in PvP. FFA Full Loot through arenas with no real penalties. Compared to "a paladin should not be killing BABY trolls!" and "My fire giant will marry the undead gnome if they feel like it. That's love!" -- yeah, you've got as many wacko's and jerks in RP as you do in any other areas but to claim as he does... pft... the guy's a twit and shows a total lack of respect to that portion of the community.
Many create chars on RP servers, not to harrass but to find a more mature, less agressive, community to be with. The RP servers tend to be far more tollerant of "stupid questions" and "just learning this stuff..." than the other servers with the punk "I pwnd j00!!!" "L2P idiot!" type commentary you find on many other servers. That idiot didn't even tip his hat to the gamers that go to those servers just for the "maturity" reason which is a *VERY* large portion of those communities. That has squat to do with harassing and attempts at pseudo martyrdom he claims.
It doesn't take many "victimizers" to trash the environment of those places any more so than it takes a large portion of the population to mess up an FFA PvP situation -- *IF* they can get away with it and having the reverse of that, the overly zealous RP'ers out there, to help file tons of complaints... Yeah, these servers do tend to be higher on the GM list than most others but a funny little one that twit should look at is the games that offer RP servers: Those that also offer FFA PvP servers... The FFA PvP tend to be a close second behind the RP servers for complaints and surpass the RP servers at times. Again, it doesn't take many "griefer" types to mess up an other wise good game enviornment.
Really, why the hell did they publish such a bogus article? The only explanation I can come up with is if the publisher/editor doesn't know diddley about those types of servers...
This is what's called a "cop-out" arguement. Or in the world of Journalism, a world that Dana wishes he was truely apart of, it's termed a self-confirming arguement.
In other words, it's pointless and hollow, and means little. Basically, that above statement translates into:
"Dana is right. Dana is right because people are pissed off. People are pissed off because Dana is right."
See a problem there? It's called circular logic. It's what Republicans and Retards have found themsleves to be quite good at attempting to seed into the general frame of reference.
His article was about as far from the truth as a writen piece of literature could ever be, in these particular circumstances.
If I ever see a "By Dana Massey" tag ever again, it'll be far too soon.
Anyone here wonder why Dana used to be the Editor here, and now isn't? It's probably because he let too many trash articles into the cycle.
What i love about this post is he attacks people (to make himself feel better) has a problem with what Dana wrote so hates on him, but like the hypocrite he exposed himself to be he attacks republicans and mentally challenged people in one swoop. (so he was wrong in what he said and is attacking others and thats wrong but its okay for you and other to attack, riiiiiggghhhttt)
Then keeps on attacking Dana like he somehow knows better heh.
Oh please fill this out in triplicate while your here, so we can investigate further:
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
you probably want to fill out that form too. -pat pat-
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
LOL Massey is either on crack, or hasn't tried Age of Conan.
"Play Nice" .... that's roleplay?
15 in character barbarians aren't "nicer" than 15 nerds practicing their skillz with pocket calculators dude.
Log into the RP server I play on Dana, and learn what it feels like to "play the victim".
Cimmeria (RP-PVP)
"The most Brutal Roleplaying Experience in any MMO"
You'll wish Roleplay didn't "work" in an MMO when you walk up to a bunch of in-character Cimmerians and say, "Sup f00|_z, any phat lewtz droppin yo?"
Seriously, you should give it a try, you will have enough content for a full weekly article in under 15 minutes.