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Hooked on skirmishes?
areb
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Am I the only one meaning to go to Mirkwood, but can't because I'm hooked on skirmishes? It's instantly funa nd there seems to be a lot of depth to the system. My captain has a rank 10 warrior, my burg has a low level bannerguard, and my champ has a rank 5ish herbalist. These seem to be good matches so far. My captain can do tier 2s pretty well, but I got owned trying a tier 3 skirmish... Need to buff up my soldier more!
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Damn, skirmishes sound awesome! Im very hyped for SoM right now!
And Codemasters have announced that Europe will get it tomorrow, so kudos to them
(we even got a pre-patch which US didnt get)
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Skirmishes are instanced scaleable areas with specific objective. I see no reason why the current playerbase would enjoy such a feature. It drags players off from the public zones into separated instanced spaces. It's step away from a multi massive concept into arcade instanced rooms with attractions.
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My time was limited yesterday, so I only had time for one skirmish after the tutorial one. I chose Siege of Gondamon and thought it was a blast. I play a minstrel and was using a warrior soldier, but he was low ranked, so I stuck to a tier 1 skirmish. I got through it okay, although the warrior was defeated a couple times (lvl 60 skirmish with only a rank 2 warrior). The random lieutenants make it interesting.
Just looking through the pages and pages of barter items you can get with the skirmish marks took a while. For now I'm buffing my soldier so he has better survivability. Loads of customizable options, from abilities to appearance. I admit I wasn't impressed with the barter gear for level 60. I have better, and I'm not in raid gear, so I"m not sure who would need it. I do like that we can barter for the items for the old level 45 class quests - I never got a Rune of Winged Dominance, so that's on my list.
Definitely looking forward to doing more skirmishes tonight.
Skirmishes are instanced scaleable areas with specific objective. I see no reason why the current playerbase would enjoy such a feature. It drags players off from the public zones into separated instanced spaces. It's step away from a multi massive concept into arcade instanced rooms with attractions.
the current player base is completely in love with it.
Awesome, this game gets better and better. Why do people comment who don't play? lol
Because I played it for 29 months + 2 months before release, and I'm still interested in the additions. What is less understandstable, are people that actually wonder about that.
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Skirmishes are instanced scaleable areas with specific objective. I see no reason why the current playerbase would enjoy such a feature. It drags players off from the public zones into separated instanced spaces. It's step away from a multi massive concept into arcade instanced rooms with attractions.
the current player base is completely in love with it.
Grats to 1000th post
The only complaint about skirmishes seems to be from couples that you can not scale them for duos, only solo/3/612. But some seem to be able to do the 3-man version on lower difficulty.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Because I played it for 29 months + 2 months before release, and I'm still interested in the additions. What is less understandstable, are people that actually wonder about that.
As compared to ... not understanding how anyone could enjoy Skirmishes? I am truly in awe of how easy it is to find someone to complain about virtually *anything*!
Because I played it for 29 months + 2 months before release, and I'm still interested in the additions. What is less understandstable, are people that actually wonder about that.
As compared to ... not understanding how anyone could enjoy Skirmishes? I am truly in awe of how easy it is to find someone to complain about virtually *anything*!
I dont really complain about that. Indeed it is better than nothing at all. But I'm trying to compare the man hours spent on skirmishers that could be used somewhere else - to promote multi-user content or to add new content like another zones. Sure, it is my opinion, I'm writing about my preferences here. As an ex-loyal player I do not like the idea of this addition at all if I imagine what else could there be instead of it.
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I downloaded the expansion but haven't had a chance to check it out yet.
Are skirmishes an endgame thing or are they available to all levels?
- RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right?
- FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?
For level 30+
Even if you dont buy the expansion you can do some of the skirmishes. But think they are limited to 3 per week or something.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
30+ I believe. I have not tried the yet did not have a ton of time lastnight.
YES! the level 45 stuff is a god dam godsend. It will be great to finally finish that stuff up.
I like the skirmishes, and have a felling they will be the tool to promote more grouping in the game.
Also, just an FYI, there is one skirmish that was held back, due to bugs. So we do not have all of the first set yet. I believe it was the Tuckburrow (sp?) one.
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How are you?" -Me
If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.
Might want to practice what you preach.
Take your time. I have a long history with the Lotro police. I never ever come to wherever he posts and try to avoid him. Yet he picks up everywhere I post. Usually calling me a troll, threatening me to put me to ignore list, that I have a personal vendetta against Turbine etc. Just check his history if you wish. You can also check out Lotro official forums to find out the Lotro police is there pretty much doing the same against any kind of criticism on Lotro.
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Honestly have you tried the skirmishes? If yes, what is your opinion on them? You only gave us the opinion on the effect they could have in the long run (a debatable argument, and not demonstrable right now)
I for one thinks that the skirmishes are a wonderful addition. As 95% of the LOTRO players (go to the forums if you don't believe it).
The reasons why I like them? There are a breath of fresh air, are easy to set up with friends and kinnies around Middle-Earth and most of all are FUN. (and this is all that matters in a game)
I honestly do not understand why you waste time here on the forums criticizing this game. Okay, you made your point, you are disillusioned about the game. That can happens for a a variety of reasons. You are not the first nor the last one who quit the game.
Don't get me wrong. I am still interested in the game and consider resubbing if I see things will improve later on. I criticized the idea of skirmishes because I thought the game would much more need new large and open zones with new deeds, explorations rather than small instanced heavily scripted zones.
Initially I wanted to know, why would players prefer to have 6 or 8 instaced areas for skirmishes, rather than a new full zone (let's say one that would connect ered luin and shire, or forochel with angmar). I assume the man hours would be approximately the same.
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People who have played them, are talking. Please read OP and thread title.
Here, I made a thread for you.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Skirmishes are instanced scaleable areas with specific objective. I see no reason why the current playerbase would enjoy such a feature. It drags players off from the public zones into separated instanced spaces. It's step away from a multi massive concept into arcade instanced rooms with attractions.
Perhaps because LotRO already has your multi-massive content concept and is in need of some arcade instanced rooms with attractions. Variety is the spice of life, no?
Don't get me wrong. I am still interested in the game and consider resubbing if I see things will improve later on. I criticized the idea of skirmishes because I thought the game would much more need new large and open zones with new deeds, explorations rather than small instanced heavily scripted zones.
Initially I wanted to know, why would players prefer to have 6 or 8 instaced areas for skirmishes, rather than a new full zone (let's say one that would connect ered luin and shire, or forochel with angmar). I assume the man hours would be approximately the same.
Okay, now you made yourself clear. I think right now Turbine do not want to aggrandize too much the world. Why? We could only speculate. Lack of people working on it (after all the recession has not ebbed, far from it), fear of aggrandizement, (look at what has befallen to WAR for instance) etc. I do prefer them to open up the world little by little than risk releasing an extremely flawed expansion with tons of bugs.
Skirmishes in my opinion could be a prelude to RvR. Maybe in the future, if it works, they could implement it in a PvP system. (the boss could become a creep). For now they are fun and interesting, and I do not think myself that they deter from the immersion in the world. Quite the opposite. The storylines are interesting and it is a great way to quest with friends and kinnies without the hassle of porting/travelling to the same place.
Try to resub it, even for one month. Give it a try, it can be worthwhile.
I do have access to Lotro, altho it's not with my own characters. I stopped my subscribtion a couple of months ago, because I decided to no longer support Turbine after maybe 8 years of playing and supporting their games. It was a combination of AC2 fiasco, lack of recent Lotro vision and weird lore design changes, and that DDo went f2p (which kinda destroyed EU servers making them desolate). I don't want to go too much offtopic here so I stop now.
Fact is, skirmishes do seem to attrack players from public zones and drag them more into instanced spaces. There was already dungeons/instances that do the same. The choice was there. Skirmishes are just an attempt to promote instancing even more. I would be much happier to see Turbine spending man hours on content which is massive and can hold hundreds of players at the same time. (Like a new zone). But sure that's me, and my opinion, nothing more. But I feel people just take the skirmishes as they are and not the 'sacrifice' in man hours behind them.
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Because I played it for 29 months + 2 months before release, and I'm still interested in the additions. What is less understandstable, are people that actually wonder about that.
As compared to ... not understanding how anyone could enjoy Skirmishes? I am truly in awe of how easy it is to find someone to complain about virtually *anything*!
I dont really complain about that. Indeed it is better than nothing at all. But I'm trying to compare the man hours spent on skirmishers that could be used somewhere else - to promote multi-user content or to add new content like another zones. Sure, it is my opinion, I'm writing about my preferences here. As an ex-loyal player I do not like the idea of this addition at all if I imagine what else could there be instead of it.
It *is* multi-user content, and best of all it's scalable by group size. Something for soloers, and something for those who like to group. There's more to content than just land mass. The trick is to integrate the Skirmishes with the other content, which they've done by making some of them unlockable only by doing the book quests. And the best gear still only comes from the more traditional content. Everyone I've talked to has found the Skirmishes to be fun. Fun is good, IMO.
You are of course entitled to your dissenting opinion, but you are the one who said you couldn't understand why people like Skirmishes.
Multi-user content I kinda meant massive in scale. That it can hold and entertain hundreds of people at the same time on the same place (like a zone).
There is no doubt people have fun with skirmishes at the moment. On the other hand, it's been out for 2 days. We'll see how people's opinion will change over time. I do think a large open zone with deeds, quests would bring more content and more "fun" over time.
At the moment the world kinda feels very linear, mainly because the space between zones is not filled up. Forochel+Angmar, lonelands with north downs, ered luin with shire, the space between shire, evendim and north downs ... etc. These all could be filled up with a camp or two, new quests, even a new instance. I'm sure the man hours would be equal to creating a whole new scripted system of skirmishers. I'm afraid, the whole system was basically mainly to serve the only purpose - marketing trick to say Lotro brings new, cool, awesome, groundbreaking feature. We'll see over time I guess.
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Multi-user content I kinda meant massive in scale. That it can hold and entertain hundreds of people at the same time on the same place (like a zone).
There is no doubt people have fun with them at the moment. On the other hand, it's been out for 2 days. We'll see how people's opinion will change over time. I do think a large open zone with deeds, quests would overally bring more content and more "fun" over time.
At the moment the world kinda feels very linear, mainly because the space between zones is not filled up. Forochel+Angmar, lonelands with north downs, ered luin with shire, the space between shire, evendim and north downs ... etc. These all could be filled up with a camp or two, new quests, even a new instance. I'm sure the man hours would be equal to creating a whole new scripted system of skirmishers. I'm afraid, the whole system was basically mainly to serve the only purpose - marketing trick to say Lotro brings new, cool, awesome, groundbreaking feature. We'll see over time I guess.
I seriously doubt that LotRO will be seeing any wide open content areas until the Rohan expansion.
I seriously doubt that LotRO will be seeing any wide open content areas until the Rohan expansion.
What would you choose. Be honest please:
Mirkwood is quite a small zone for a paid expansion. People have been waiting for a year, and now comes a zone, which is even smaller than Forochel or Evendim - that was added for free before.
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And the cycle continues!
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me