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  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123


    Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
    If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.

     

    Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.

    I dare you.

     

    I don't have to because I see your mom naked every night.

    Edit: Holy crap, people here have a major Oedipus Complex going on...

    This, the inevitable "you mom" shit is just the type of creature nudity in a video game will attract. WOW refugees will flock to it like flys to shit.

  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by Ichmen


    im going to skip most of the replies as it seems a vast majorty are bible thumping or QQing..
    anyway.. to QQ about nudity must be very harsh for you.. i mean here you are...having to get naked in the shower.. and see your self... or perhaps your not a basement dweller and maybe have a gf/wife..mistress who knows... and you see them naked....
    oh my cant have that...
     
    honestly all these prudish QQing biggots are really annoying.. if people want to see people naked... they will... if they are naked in a video game O_O so what.. you can get mods for games like The Sims that make your pixals naked... why should MO be any diffrent??? i have no problem with nudies in a game tho it has to be done tastefully... nothing worse then seeing hentai style nude chicks...
    size 10 waist... size 10 hips... size 9000 bust... >> i mean honestly... as long as its done tastefully and not just throwin like some cheap porno... there shouldnt be a problem people will abuse the game anyway... look at WoW people have sex in that and its got 0 nudity.. lmao
     
    ^ if the above offends you great.. if you agree or disagree.. great... honestly its my opionon and so nothing else really matters.. more power to the OP if s/he doesnt want to play a game with possible nudity their call.. shouldnt stop others or affect game play if a person is nude or not..

     

    There was no bible thumping in this thread. Had you bothered to read. Perhaps a little historical misconception, but no bible thumping. There was also little QQ'ing. So I guess that makes you the ignorant bigot. Aye?

    Idiot.

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  • dalevi1dalevi1 Member Posts: 829
    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123


    Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
    If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.

     

    Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.

    I dare you.

     

    I don't have to because I see your mom naked every night.

    Edit: Holy crap, people here have a major Oedipus Complex going on...

    This, the inevitable "you mom" shit is just the type of creature nudity in a video game will attract. WOW refugees will flock to it like flys to shit.

    He did mention Oedipus...And it's "your mom" not "you mom" unless you mean "you mama's" translated "yo mama's". I don't see how this is platform specific. I have seen it in every game I have trialed for more than a day. If the game allowes nudity, and a very liberal character creation, watch out..you might just see yo mama.

     

    Just sayin.

     

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  • XnxaxXnxax Member Posts: 73

    I couldnt help my self after i saw four pages of replies.

    I have to tip my hat off to Gishgeron and Tardcore because you made me laugh uncontrolably. I would also like to thank Zymurgeist, Produde, and Tethered for your well thought out replies and everyone else that managed to not simultaenously combust when they saw the word Religion.

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  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123


    Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
    If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.

     

    Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.

    I dare you.

     

    I don't have to because I see your mom naked every night.

    Edit: Holy crap, people here have a major Oedipus Complex going on...

    This, the inevitable "you mom" shit is just the type of creature nudity in a video game will attract. WOW refugees will flock to it like flys to shit.

     

    Oh dear God, what has begun here?

    Edit: Honestly, I can fully understand why people wouldn't want to see nudity in a video game, and I agree that some nudity is completely worthless to the piece that is being created (someone gave the sex scene in Watchmen as a good example. That film would have been whole and complete without the nudity.) However, I don't see it as major moral degradation to have nudity in video games, films or on TV. I still stand by my statement that some people are too prudish, and I think it would be found that the majority of prudes are American if a census were to be taken (I know religious people from other countries who wouldn't bat an eyelash at such things.)

  • colutrcolutr Member Posts: 333
    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Oh dear God, what has begun here?

    Edit: Honestly, I can fully understand why people wouldn't want to see nudity in a video game, and I agree that some nudity is completely worthless to the piece that is being created (someone gave the sex scene in Watchmen as a good example. That film would have been whole and complete without the nudity.) However, I don't see it as major moral degradation to have nudity in video games, films or on TV. I still stand by my statement that some people are too prudish, and I think it would be found that the majority of prudes are American if a census were to be taken (I know religious people from other countries who wouldn't bat an eyelash at such things.)

     

    You have to forgive my people, they are interested in keeping up apearances. They are more concerned with what their mom would say if they got caught playing a game with nudity in it, or that their friends would make fun of them.  Really americans arent as prude as people think we are, we just like to keep our inner desired hidden, i mean what would society think? Publicly society would shun the idea of nudity ina  videogame , but privately each and every one of us doesnt mind it and alot of us like the idea.

    BTW, I'm American and i'm pro-nudity.

  • Cristina1Cristina1 Member UncommonPosts: 372
    Originally posted by colutr

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Oh dear God, what has begun here?

    Edit: Honestly, I can fully understand why people wouldn't want to see nudity in a video game, and I agree that some nudity is completely worthless to the piece that is being created (someone gave the sex scene in Watchmen as a good example. That film would have been whole and complete without the nudity.) However, I don't see it as major moral degradation to have nudity in video games, films or on TV. I still stand by my statement that some people are too prudish, and I think it would be found that the majority of prudes are American if a census were to be taken (I know religious people from other countries who wouldn't bat an eyelash at such things.)

     

    You have to forgive my people, they are interested in keeping up apearances. They are more concerned with what their mom would say if they got caught playing a game with nudity in it, or that their friends would make fun of them.  Really americans arent as prude as people think we are, we just like to keep our inner desired hidden, i mean what would society think? Publicly society would shun the idea of nudity ina  videogame , but privately each and every one of us doesnt mind it and alot of us like the idea.

    BTW, I'm American and i'm pro-nudity.

     

    americans are too whiny tbh...

  • DerrosDerros Member UncommonPosts: 1,216

    Honestly, its nothing more than a marketing gimick, meant to sell more copies based on shock value.  CoD:MW2 did the same thing with their 'leak' of the No Russian level, it created a ton of hype.  The community will not be any more mature than any other MMO community.  Look at AoC, that was filled with kiddies too, the M rating didnt do anything to discourage kids from playing, and neither will Mortal.  In fact naked bits only encourage kids to play it more because 'they arent supose to!!'. 

    Im a bit skeptical of a game that has one of its selling points as FULL NUDITY!! ZOMG!  It does nothing to add to gameplay, and for me doesnt make a game more fun.

  • erickdeforeserickdefores Member Posts: 161
    Originally posted by donjuanamigo


    i voted for MMMM Boobs just because i love women and I love cans!



     

    There is something to be said about honesty!

  • erickdeforeserickdefores Member Posts: 161
    Originally posted by Fortenc


    Human beings used to have absolutely no inhibitions towards being naked around other human beings.  No other animal does.  Christians brought about clothing and decency and, though the reason behind the concept is questionable, clothing is awesome.  Choice is pretty awesome too, though, and how people act towards nudity nowadays is laughable.  Everyone is easily offended on all sides.
    Hopefully, however, civilization is moving towards being more accepting and this is a good show of that for MMOs.  Having the option to play a game that has the option to be naked is a good thing.
    Who knows if I'll buy the game or not but it's a good social experiment and a good thing for open-mindedness, creativity and freedom for the industry and the world in general (whether they take notice or not).
    Yay!
     
    *I didn't think I'd have to be so specific as to say that clothing existed before Christianity forced it upon people.  Yes, people wore fur and clothing to protect their skin from the sun or to warm them up and did so for long periods of time beforehand.  It was nothing to do with modesty, however, and covering one's junk wasn't the priority.  Christians did that.  Happy, correctfreaks?  The point about Christians bringing about clothing was more to offer a time period look at things and not to say anything positive or negative about Christians, either, so grow up.  Christians forced peoples around the world to cover up and did far worse and far better things, facts and nothing else.

    Yah it appears you need to go back to 5th grade anthropology!!!  Clothing was never a christian invention and to say so is not correct.  The Sumerians had an entire set of laws concerning public exposure and inforced them.  The Christian faith does have some strange hang-ups concerning nudity but the christians didnt invent them!

     

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by grandpagamer

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123


    Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
    If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.

     

    Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.

    I dare you.

     

    I don't have to because I see your mom naked every night.

    Edit: Holy crap, people here have a major Oedipus Complex going on...

    This, the inevitable "you mom" shit is just the type of creature nudity in a video game will attract. WOW refugees will flock to it like flys to shit.

     

    Oh dear God, what has begun here?

    Edit: Honestly, I can fully understand why people wouldn't want to see nudity in a video game, and I agree that some nudity is completely worthless to the piece that is being created (someone gave the sex scene in Watchmen as a good example. That film would have been whole and complete without the nudity.) However, I don't see it as major moral degradation to have nudity in video games, films or on TV. I still stand by my statement that some people are too prudish, and I think it would be found that the majority of prudes are American if a census were to be taken (I know religious people from other countries who wouldn't bat an eyelash at such things.)

    My point is not thatt nudity is offensive  but that nudity in a game will pull in the offensive morons which have begun to show their asses here.

  • HrothmundHrothmund Member Posts: 1,061
    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123


    Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
    If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.

     

    Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.

    I dare you.

     

    I see my mother and various other family members naked monthly, in the sauna, it is a Finnish custom. I don't understand why seeing your mother naked is any worse than seeing your dog naked.  I think its very hypocritical of modern society to label nudity a taboo.

     

    We don't have naked people running the streets or more nude beaches than any other country. Our culture just accepts nudity in the right context as natural.

     

    Having said that, full nudity for an MMO is a horrible idea. To think what the immature preteens will think of... I certainly don't want to see a set of testicles when I log on to my MMO of choice.

  • TheConfinedTheConfined Member Posts: 46

    full nudity is just one of the many examples that tells you Star Vault is run by a bunch of retards that have no fucking clue what they are doing and is why MO will NEVER be a successful game

    MO is currently the laughing stock of MMO's

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by Hrothmund

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xondar123


    Man, what's with all the puritanical prudes?
    If anything, there should be more nudity on TV, in newspapers, in games, and on the internet. Maybe if there was way more prudes would figure out that nudity isn't the horrible, evil thing they think it is.

     

    Go ask your mother to get naked and then come back here and try to say that again.

    I dare you.

     

    I see my mother and various other family members naked monthly, in the sauna, it is a Finnish custom. I don't understand why seeing your mother naked is any worse than seeing your dog naked.  I think its very hypocritical of modern society to label nudity a taboo.

     

    We don't have naked people running the streets or more nude beaches than any other country. Our culture just accepts nudity in the right context as natural.

     

    Having said that, full nudity for an MMO is a horrible idea. To think what the immature preteens will think of... I certainly don't want to see a set of testicles when I log on to my MMO of choice.

     

    It's just a poor business decision. You can't make the game broadly appealing (even if it is a niche game) if you put in blocks that are inherent to the game like nudity. I know they are going for a 'niche' market, but even if you have a market segment targetted, you have to be as broadly appealing to that segment as possible. It would have probably shaved a little development time off too but that's negligible.

     

    But then again, this goes right in hand with them introducing fluff features and not concentrating on the core of combat, which would be their main selling point.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    Originally posted by Hrothmund



    Having said that, full nudity for an MMO is a horrible idea. To think what the immature preteens will think of... I certainly don't want to see a set of testicles when I log on to my MMO of choice.

     

    But think of how much more entertaining it will be to asshat your fallen opponent with your drawers down.

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  • stuxstux Member Posts: 462

    I can't believe this discussion is still going on.

     

    I agree this was a poor business decision.  They are going to greatly reduce not increase their market segment by doing so.

     

    Features that reduce the number of potential players is not a good financial decision for a small company trying to survive in a competitive market.

     

    Not because of the vulgarity of blatant nudity for no purpose or because there is necessarily anything wrong with nudity.

    It is what the nudity will be used for that will be the problem.

    But because it is going to attract VERY immature people who are going to use the nudity for VERY immature purposed that WILL dissuade mature people from wanting to play with these individual.

    The fact that there is nudity isn't going to be a reason to attract mature people.  But it IS a reason for the immature crowd.

    You can already see some people's ideas as how they intend on using it.

  • NiblixNiblix Member Posts: 160

    Everyone knows all MMORPG players were born in full plate armour and a broadsword, born naked indeed... pffffffffffffft

    Whats the big deal with nudity in a game? There is so much porn on the internet now that you must be blind while surfing if you haven't seen it. Age of Conan had boobs and that was a big flop (pun intended), MO will just be another one. After the first few days people will get bored of cartoon porn and start looking for gameplay, which AoC didnt have due to the developers spending to much time fapping to the cartoon boobs, and lied on the box to cover their indiscretions....

    ....wait for playboy manager online, probably have better gameplay :D

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  • tman5tman5 Member Posts: 604

    The nudity itself does not bother me but I have to ask - Why?  What does it bring to the game experience?  What entertainment function does it serve?

     

    A couple of posters have implied it adds realism.  Well, your character should have to eat and drink and then eliminate.  Should they add the urge to take a crap to the play experience, too?

     

    Just because you "can" do something doesn't mean you "should."

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by stux


    I can't believe this discussion is still going on.
     
    I agree this was a poor business decision.  They are going to greatly reduce not increase their market segment by doing so.
     
    Features that reduce the number of potential players is not a good financial decision for a small company trying to survive in a competitive market.
     
    Not because of the vulgarity of blatant nudity for no purpose or because there is necessarily anything wrong with nudity.
    It is what the nudity will be used for that will be the problem.
    But because it is going to attract VERY immature people who are going to use the nudity for VERY immature purposed that WILL dissuade mature people from wanting to play with these individual.
    The fact that there is nudity isn't going to be a reason to attract mature people.  But it IS a reason for the immature crowd.
    You can already see some people's ideas as how they intend on using it.

     

    Honestly putting up a logical argument about why it's a bad business move won't matter, as fanboys are immune to logic or common sense.

     

    I got a PM once, that StarVault could release "pong without a ball" and the same folks who praise them over and over would rile about how innovative the idea was. This is the mentality you have to deal with.

     

    Reality doesn't sink in until like Darkfall, the server is empty, nobody wants to play, and they are begging you to join up. It will happen sooner than they think. I'll just wait for my "i told you so" until then. Unfortunately, it's difficult to have logical debates so I am just making small comments while I'm at work, and otherwise ignoring it.

  • nAAtimusnAAtimus Member Posts: 342

    Luckily no one is being forced to play this.

    Nudity neither adds nor detracts the value of a game to me.

    I'm not here to complete my forum PVP dailies.

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by nAAtimus


    Luckily no one is being forced to play this.
    Nudity neither adds nor detracts the value of a game to me.

     

    Those last two words really make my point.

  • GetViolatedGetViolated Member Posts: 335

     nudity is only bad when the chick is fat or it's a guy 

  • nAAtimusnAAtimus Member Posts: 342
    Originally posted by HerculesSAS

    Originally posted by nAAtimus


    Luckily no one is being forced to play this.
    Nudity neither adds nor detracts the value of a game to me.

     

    Those last two words really make my point.

     

    And exactly what's your point that you felt the need to magnify a qualifier in a sentence?  I'm not the one who is trying to convince anyone that a certain opinion is either right or wrong.  You don't like the idea of nudity in the game, what does that have to do with me? 

    I'm not here to complete my forum PVP dailies.

  • oramiooramio Member Posts: 121

    It has been announced that there will be an option to switch off the full nudity on client side, so what's the problem? 

  • GetViolatedGetViolated Member Posts: 335
    Originally posted by oramio


    It has been announced that there will be an option to switch off the full nudity on client side, so what's the problem? 

    will you be allowed to teabag the hot chicks in the game?

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