More right wing fanatics trying to impose their morals on everyone else. What's new?
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Spooning! Oh, the horror! What is this world coming to when we can watch 2 males spoon in a video game. We are all doomed I tell you! Repent now!
Yes, spoony love. How dreadful it tis.
I seriously don't have an issue with people who have a set of values, morals, whatever you want to call it, and they live by them. Especially if those values don't infringe or try to dictate how others live.
It's when people like this get up on their soapboxes, virtual or on the street corner, is when I get upset. I don't go around spouting of my values and morals. I keep them to myself. I expect the same in return. If I ask you for yours, by all means, talk to my ears bleed. If I don't, then STFU.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
This is all just laying the groundwork for the Billy Herrington MMO that will be released in 2013 and will dictate the way we live our lives from that day forward.
Originally posted by lancelot76 Here we go, a nice conservative bashing thread. Guess it had to happen. Since we're doing thread derails on Global Warming, we might as well have some fun: http://volokh.com/2009/12/08/the-homogenized-data-is-false/
Being conservative is not a choice. Its in their genes. We shouldn't treat them like its a birth defect, or force them to fight their very genetic nature.
Please, show them the respect they deserve. We are all beautiful and unique snowflakes.
PS: Anyone have a link for the DA Nudity patch?
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
More right wing fanatics trying to impose their morals on everyone else. What's new?
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Well, you do realise that spooning leads to forking, right?
Um, in fairness, I don't think you'll find a single liberal person affiliated with that site. A spade is a spade and if there is one set of people who harbor the most hate for any kind of change (social, economic, whatever) it's the right wing folks. You don't see liberals or moderates setting up sites bashing people for their lifestyles. No, they only bash conservatives (those that want to, not all of them do). Why? Because Conservatives started in with the hate long ago.
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone"...
Man, conservatives started picking up rocks the moment this was first said looking to hit someone.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
"If they had played the game, they’d probably be far more upset. Dragon Age also features digital prostitutes, lesbians, rather clean three way sex, inter-species erotica, war, decapitation, thinly veiled social commentary, alcohol, drug addiction, slavery, racism, sexism, sexual harassment, genocide, the death of children, demons, and more blood than a vampire drinking game."
Originally posted by lancelot76 Here we go, a nice conservative bashing thread. Guess it had to happen. Since we're doing thread derails on Global Warming, we might as well have some fun: http://volokh.com/2009/12/08/the-homogenized-data-is-false/
Being conservative is not a choice. Its in their genes. We shouldn't treat them like its a birth defect, or force them to fight their very genetic nature.
Please, show them the respect they deserve. We are all beautiful and unique snowflakes.
Geez, you would get more "graphical" images just doing a google image search. I have to wonder at the mentality of the news people sometimes. On one hand you have to pay to watch what is essentially a cartoon that barely comes close to PG; on the other hand you get free porn via the net. And they go crazy on this (*Rolls Eyes*).
Then again it could be just another publicity stunt. After all, lets not forget the tried and true rule of any business, i.e. sex sells.
Um, in fairness, I don't think you'll find a single liberal person affiliated with that site. A spade is a spade and if there is one set of people who harbor the most hate for any kind of change (social, economic, whatever) it's the right wing folks. You don't see liberals or moderates setting up sites bashing people for their lifestyles. No, they only bash conservatives (those that want to, not all of them do). Why? Because Conservatives started in with the hate long ago.
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone"...
Man, conservatives started picking up rocks the moment this was first said looking to hit someone.
I have a hard time with the above statement. I figure I am pretty much a conservative, but lean toward pro-choice and have no problems with homosexuals at all. However, I am pretty sure that we don't have enough data to prove Global Warming, and I think Obama's healthcare plan is a really bad idea.
What am I?
The point is, "Conservatives" don't have a monopoly on hate - the liberals throw around more than their fair share also. Example? Bush is a 'moron', Quayle is an idiot, Palin...well, she's been called all sorts of things. The treatment of the so-called conservative leaders has been at least as hateful as anything that has come out of Glenn Beck's mouth.
As for change....the Fair Tax movement is deemed conservative at the moment - and it would be a very MAJOR change (and one I support).
Well...I've had my say. Off to download the nudity patch :-)
MMORPG.com's Dana Massey writes this article taking a look at the recent controversy sparked by what WorldNewsDaily described as "dirty gay sex."
I confess. I boinked the elf and I did it for the achievements. Recently, as videos circulated online, conservative website WorldNewsDaily kicked off a controversy about Bioware’s Dragon Age. The video in question shows (and I am quoting WND) “dirty gay sex” in a video game. Naturally, people freaked out. The problem is that the original WorldNetDaily report was quite clearly based off a YouTube video, not any actual experience with the game itself. If they had played the game, they’d probably be far more upset. Dragon Age also features digital prostitutes, lesbians, rather clean three way sex, inter-species erotica, war, decapitation, thinly veiled social commentary, alcohol, drug addiction, slavery, racism, sexism, sexual harassment, genocide, the death of children, demons, and more blood than a vampire drinking game.
If they had played the game, theyd probably be far more upset. Dragon Age also features digital prostitutes, lesbians, rather clean three way sex, inter-species erotica, war, decapitation, thinly veiled social commentary, alcohol, drug addiction, slavery, racism, sexism, sexual harassment, genocide, the death of children, demons, and more blood than a vampire drinking game.
You know, until I read that about the game I had no interest in playing it;. Now it's tempting...
Video games take you from the real world into a different world. In my opnion, you can't go too far. You give people a chance to try something they either would never dream of trying in real life, or didn't have the "balls" to. Honestly people...
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Spooning sucks!
Always have to find that comfortable position for the other arm thats not spooning... and no matter what position (under the pillow, over your head, under your girl friend/boy friends head...) the arm goes numb and falls asleep. Then someone moves and you get that whole pins and needles thing going on...
BAN SPOONING!
As for the article, meh... I tend to ignore small sites like that with reporters who are just trying to get shock value attention.
Though I will laugh if this ends up on Fix- er, Fox news again like Mass Effect.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Um, in fairness, I don't think you'll find a single liberal person affiliated with that site. A spade is a spade and if there is one set of people who harbor the most hate for any kind of change (social, economic, whatever) it's the right wing folks. You don't see liberals or moderates setting up sites bashing people for their lifestyles. No, they only bash conservatives (those that want to, not all of them do). Why? Because Conservatives started in with the hate long ago.
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone"...
Man, conservatives started picking up rocks the moment this was first said looking to hit someone.
I have a hard time with the above statement. I figure I am pretty much a conservative, but lean toward pro-choice and have no problems with homosexuals at all. However, I am pretty sure that we don't have enough data to prove Global Warming, and I think Obama's healthcare plan is a really bad idea.
What am I?
The point is, "Conservatives" don't have a monopoly on hate - the liberals throw around more than their fair share also. Example? Bush is a 'moron', Quayle is an idiot, Palin...well, she's been called all sorts of things. The treatment of the so-called conservative leaders has been at least as hateful as anything that has come out of Glenn Beck's mouth.
As for change....the Fair Tax movement is deemed conservative at the moment - and it would be a very MAJOR change (and one I support).
Well...I've had my say. Off to download the nudity patch :-)
Sure, but in the context of this discussion they certainly "threw the first punches". As for the change comment, it is my fault for not clarifying. Change that helps the rich get richer, makes middle class take a sharp punch in the nose and the poor stay poorer is good and dandy for conservatives. Ironically, the vast majority of them fall into the middle class yet they continuously vote for measures that hurt them. That's a research paper right there.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
Oh, and that's the thing that gets me. Your last comment, though I'm not aiming at you in specific. I'm aiming at the folks who run that site. I can guarantee you if an FBI computer forensics team did a sweep of their work and home computers you'd find some of the dirtiest pornographic material ever. Hypocrits.
In fact, that's something I'd like to see. Random inspections of home and office of the morality patrol entities of the world. You want to preach it and clog up my air space, then you better be a Paragon of virtue. You linger for more than a second in the bra section of a JC Penny magazine and I want to know about it cause that's SIN.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
I wasn't generalizing all conservatives, nor was I bashing them in general. I make it a point to bash idiots when they do or say something stupid. This website happened to be labeled as conservative, so I took the shot.
I seperate myself from labels in politics, since there's no one side of the table I fully agree with. It just so happens that conservatives seem to like making bigger asses of themselves, so they're an easy target.
As for the change comment, it is my fault for not clarifying. Change that helps the rich get richer, makes middle class take a sharp punch in the nose and the poor stay poorer is good and dandy for conservatives. Ironically, the vast majority of them fall into the middle class yet they continuously vote for measures that hurt them. That's a research paper right there.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
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(sorry for mangling the whole quote thing)
It's funny - I think in philosophy and outlook, we somewhat agree. "The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country." It's just that I think we interpret the data differently. For example, I think the FairTax would help the lower classes, and remove the loopholes that the top-end people all enjoy. I think GB and Canada are not really in better shape with healthcare. And, I think less regulation is good and leads to innovation, and increased regulation leads to mediocrity and inefficiency.
I am afraid we are getting to the point that any criticism of any idea, regardless of the merit of the criticism, is spun as hate speech by the other side. At least in this conversation, we've avoided that!
Btw, I do agree with your assessment of the folks that are yelling the loudest about nudity in a game. The track records of preachers and priests are decidedly not good in that area.
I have a hard time with the above statement. I figure I am pretty much a conservative, but lean toward pro-choice and have no problems with homosexuals at all. However, I am pretty sure that we don't have enough data to prove Global Warming, and I think Obama's healthcare plan is a really bad idea.
What am I?
The point is, "Conservatives" don't have a monopoly on hate - the liberals throw around more than their fair share also. Example? Bush is a 'moron', Quayle is an idiot, Palin...well, she's been called all sorts of things. The treatment of the so-called conservative leaders has been at least as hateful as anything that has come out of Glenn Beck's mouth.
As for change....the Fair Tax movement is deemed conservative at the moment - and it would be a very MAJOR change (and one I support).
Well...I've had my say. Off to download the nudity patch :-)
No offense but..all those things said about Bush, Quayle etc are pretty much true...atleast in relation to Bush 2. The first Bush Administration in the late 80s / early 90s was atleast pretty smart...Bush 2 was just following daddy's path because he was pretty much forced too...not because he wanted to or was even prepared.
Palin was the biggest mistake Republicans could ever make...she's a Prime Example that conservatives dont' practice what they preach. They preach no sex before marriage yet their own kids who they're ignoring while preaching are out there getting knocked up by some moron who goes and puts his johnson in a nudie magazine...or atleast fakes everyone out about it.
Thats not to say that "Liberals" are much better but really...atleast the administration behind Obama and even Clinton were fairly smart. Sure Clinton couldn't keep it in his pants but atleast instead of continuing to brush it under the rug like a Conservative would he finally owned up deciding the lie wasn't worth it because it was the most retarded thing to be busted over while a president.
Personally I think neither party is perfect since they contain humans. Humans are not perfect. I'll remain on the line and swing to which side has the better ideals for the future. Obama has far better ideals and a chance to make it work then the nut jobs in the current Republican party who are going around riling up all the wrong right wing nut jobs out of their trailers spouting things they have no idea about. I mean really? Health Care in this country is a complete sham atleast Obama is trying to get it to everyone without affecting those that like and can afford a private health care plan.
Anyway on topic....Seriously who cares what these right wing news casters think? Everyone..its best to have a good laugh at it because quite honestly they just take a video and make something up without having any idea lol. I mean seriously DA is a mature rated game ... they're not hiding it like say Hot Coffee incident.
More right wing fanatics trying to impose their morals on everyone else. What's new?
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Spooning! Oh, the horror! What is this world coming to when we can watch 2 males spoon in a video game. We are all doomed I tell you! Repent now!
Yes, spoony love. How dreadful it tis.
I seriously don't have an issue with people who have a set of values, morals, whatever you want to call it, and they live by them. Especially if those values don't infringe or try to dictate how others live.
It's when people like this get up on their soapboxes, virtual or on the street corner, is when I get upset. I don't go around spouting of my values and morals. I keep them to myself. I expect the same in return. If I ask you for yours, by all means, talk to my ears bleed. If I don't, then STFU.
Yeah, kinda like spewing liberal drivel on a gaming website. How oppressive.
As for the change comment, it is my fault for not clarifying. Change that helps the rich get richer, makes middle class take a sharp punch in the nose and the poor stay poorer is good and dandy for conservatives. Ironically, the vast majority of them fall into the middle class yet they continuously vote for measures that hurt them. That's a research paper right there.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
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(sorry for mangling the whole quote thing)
It's funny - I think in philosophy and outlook, we somewhat agree. "The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country." It's just that I think we interpret the data differently. For example, I think the FairTax would help the lower classes, and remove the loopholes that the top-end people all enjoy. I think GB and Canada are not really in better shape with healthcare. And, I think less regulation is good and leads to innovation, and increased regulation leads to mediocrity and inefficiency.
I am afraid we are getting to the point that any criticism of any idea, regardless of the merit of the criticism, is spun as hate speech by the other side. At least in this conversation, we've avoided that!
Btw, I do agree with your assessment of the folks that are yelling the loudest about nudity in a game. The track records of preachers and priests are decidedly not good in that area.
I would agree with your innovation argument .. if it had any merit. Health Care has not improved or been innovated in anyway since the dark ages. Hell its not even really regulated anyone can start up an insurance company and pretty much fubar you by covering as little as possible.
You can either afford it or you can't thats how the system works right now and clinics only really cover the basics if you broke your arm or your really sick you can get pretty F'd over if you dont have insurance. They can drop you at random and say Haha Die Poor or they can pretend to help you then screw you over later by refusing to pay.
The Government Needs to step in and offer alternatives and thats pretty much what Obama is trying to do. He's not taking over or heavily regulating anything..he's simply saying hey can't afford health care? Your not covered? Lost your Health Care plan..here ..here's some Free Health Care that everyone should have basic human rights too. Is it a perfect plan? No but its a hell of alot better than nothing which is what we've had for generations.
If the Health Care Insurance industry had their way they'd forclose on your house take everything you have and leave you bleeding in the street. I wouldn't really care either way if I didn't see the struggle my mother went through after having Breast Cancer trying to get on a health care provider's plan when their company changed providers. She almost lost health care insurance completely because she survived Breast Cancer and a new provider wasn't going to take the risk. Luckily she managed to get on a plan but she pays out the bleeding nose for it. You can be rich and health careless..because they can just say "Your not insurable" your not worth it..you should die. Health Insurance is a Nightmare if you have to change providers.
/rant off god drives me nuts when people use that whole innovative argument for frigging everything. You can't innovate Health Care Insurance thats run by a private group. They do whatever they want they don't give a damn about anyone but their wallets.
As for the change comment, it is my fault for not clarifying. Change that helps the rich get richer, makes middle class take a sharp punch in the nose and the poor stay poorer is good and dandy for conservatives. Ironically, the vast majority of them fall into the middle class yet they continuously vote for measures that hurt them. That's a research paper right there.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
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(sorry for mangling the whole quote thing)
It's funny - I think in philosophy and outlook, we somewhat agree. "The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country." It's just that I think we interpret the data differently. For example, I think the FairTax would help the lower classes, and remove the loopholes that the top-end people all enjoy. I think GB and Canada are not really in better shape with healthcare. And, I think less regulation is good and leads to innovation, and increased regulation leads to mediocrity and inefficiency.
I am afraid we are getting to the point that any criticism of any idea, regardless of the merit of the criticism, is spun as hate speech by the other side. At least in this conversation, we've avoided that!
Btw, I do agree with your assessment of the folks that are yelling the loudest about nudity in a game. The track records of preachers and priests are decidedly not good in that area.
I would agree with your innovation argument .. if it had any merit. Health Care has not improved or been innovated in anyway since the dark ages. Hell its not even really regulated anyone can start up an insurance company and pretty much fubar you by covering as little as possible.
You can either afford it or you can't thats how the system works right now and clinics only really cover the basics if you broke your arm or your really sick you can get pretty F'd over if you dont have insurance. They can drop you at random and say Haha Die Poor or they can pretend to help you then screw you over later by refusing to pay.
The Government Needs to step in and offer alternatives and thats pretty much what Obama is trying to do. He's not taking over or heavily regulating anything..he's simply saying hey can't afford health care? Your not covered? Lost your Health Care plan..here ..here's some Free Health Care that everyone should have basic human rights too. Is it a perfect plan? No but its a hell of alot better than nothing which is what we've had for generations.
If the Health Care Insurance industry had their way they'd forclose on your house take everything you have and leave you bleeding in the street. I wouldn't really care either way if I didn't see the struggle my mother went through after having Breast Cancer trying to get on a health care provider's plan when their company changed providers. She almost lost health care insurance completely because she survived Breast Cancer and a new provider wasn't going to take the risk. Luckily she managed to get on a plan but she pays out the bleeding nose for it. You can be rich and health careless..because they can just say "Your not insurable" your not worth it..you should die. Health Insurance is a Nightmare if you have to change providers.
The part of not wanting to take over healthcare might be more believable if not for what happened with GM and a good number of the banks in the country.
Health Insurance Isn't in debt...last time i looked those Banks were pretty much about to sink and take a ton of innocent people with them. Thats a pretty big difference. The health care industry is frigging Mad Rich....Banks/ They made stupid risky investments in giving people loans that they can not realistically afford. Not to mention playing on the stock market which was just dumb in the first place with how lopsided its been since 9/11
Not sure I can comment on the car industry..maybe if we made Better Cars for the money people wouldn't buy fancy forgien cars.
BTW if the government as so much even thinks about Bailing out the Insurance industry instead of improving health care...I'll hitch up my stuff and Move. Damn tired of greedy ass companies that make bad mistakes getting pay outs.
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Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Spooning! Oh, the horror! What is this world coming to when we can watch 2 males spoon in a video game. We are all doomed I tell you! Repent now!
Yes, spoony love. How dreadful it tis.
I seriously don't have an issue with people who have a set of values, morals, whatever you want to call it, and they live by them. Especially if those values don't infringe or try to dictate how others live.
It's when people like this get up on their soapboxes, virtual or on the street corner, is when I get upset. I don't go around spouting of my values and morals. I keep them to myself. I expect the same in return. If I ask you for yours, by all means, talk to my ears bleed. If I don't, then STFU.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
This is all just laying the groundwork for the Billy Herrington MMO that will be released in 2013 and will dictate the way we live our lives from that day forward.
I can't wait.
Being conservative is not a choice. Its in their genes. We shouldn't treat them like its a birth defect, or force them to fight their very genetic nature.
Please, show them the respect they deserve. We are all beautiful and unique snowflakes.
PS: Anyone have a link for the DA Nudity patch?
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Well, you do realise that spooning leads to forking, right?
To bad that was left out, seeing Morrigan getting forked would have been epic. Go go DA2?!
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Here we go, a nice conservative bashing thread. Guess it had to happen. Since we're doing thread derails on Global Warming, we might as well have some fun: http://volokh.com/2009/12/08/the-homogenized-data-is-false/
Um, in fairness, I don't think you'll find a single liberal person affiliated with that site. A spade is a spade and if there is one set of people who harbor the most hate for any kind of change (social, economic, whatever) it's the right wing folks. You don't see liberals or moderates setting up sites bashing people for their lifestyles. No, they only bash conservatives (those that want to, not all of them do). Why? Because Conservatives started in with the hate long ago.
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone"...
Man, conservatives started picking up rocks the moment this was first said looking to hit someone.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
To bad that was left out, seeing Morrigan getting forked would have been epic. Go go DA2?!
There is still hope. They provided all the tools the community needs to make it happen.
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
"If they had played the game, they’d probably be far more upset. Dragon Age also features digital prostitutes, lesbians, rather clean three way sex, inter-species erotica, war, decapitation, thinly veiled social commentary, alcohol, drug addiction, slavery, racism, sexism, sexual harassment, genocide, the death of children, demons, and more blood than a vampire drinking game."
This game sounds so awesome!
Being conservative is not a choice. Its in their genes. We shouldn't treat them like its a birth defect, or force them to fight their very genetic nature.
Please, show them the respect they deserve. We are all beautiful and unique snowflakes.
PS: Anyone have a link for the DA Nudity patch?
Yes, yes I do.
http://www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=221
Geez, you would get more "graphical" images just doing a google image search. I have to wonder at the mentality of the news people sometimes. On one hand you have to pay to watch what is essentially a cartoon that barely comes close to PG; on the other hand you get free porn via the net. And they go crazy on this (*Rolls Eyes*).
Then again it could be just another publicity stunt. After all, lets not forget the tried and true rule of any business, i.e. sex sells.
Everyone wins. Conservative loons have something to write about, their readers have something to get outraged about, and DA gets some free hype.
Cryptic is trying a Customer Development approach to MMO creation.
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Here we go, a nice conservative bashing thread. Guess it had to happen. Since we're doing thread derails on Global Warming, we might as well have some fun: http://volokh.com/2009/12/08/the-homogenized-data-is-false/
Um, in fairness, I don't think you'll find a single liberal person affiliated with that site. A spade is a spade and if there is one set of people who harbor the most hate for any kind of change (social, economic, whatever) it's the right wing folks. You don't see liberals or moderates setting up sites bashing people for their lifestyles. No, they only bash conservatives (those that want to, not all of them do). Why? Because Conservatives started in with the hate long ago.
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone"...
Man, conservatives started picking up rocks the moment this was first said looking to hit someone.
I have a hard time with the above statement. I figure I am pretty much a conservative, but lean toward pro-choice and have no problems with homosexuals at all. However, I am pretty sure that we don't have enough data to prove Global Warming, and I think Obama's healthcare plan is a really bad idea.
What am I?
The point is, "Conservatives" don't have a monopoly on hate - the liberals throw around more than their fair share also. Example? Bush is a 'moron', Quayle is an idiot, Palin...well, she's been called all sorts of things. The treatment of the so-called conservative leaders has been at least as hateful as anything that has come out of Glenn Beck's mouth.
As for change....the Fair Tax movement is deemed conservative at the moment - and it would be a very MAJOR change (and one I support).
Well...I've had my say. Off to download the nudity patch :-)
Read Dragon Age Sex Controversey Examined.
-Finaly something to play before Postal 3 come out lol :P
You know, until I read that about the game I had no interest in playing it;. Now it's tempting...
Not just another pretty color.
Video games take you from the real world into a different world. In my opnion, you can't go too far. You give people a chance to try something they either would never dream of trying in real life, or didn't have the "balls" to. Honestly people...
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Spooning sucks!
Always have to find that comfortable position for the other arm thats not spooning... and no matter what position (under the pillow, over your head, under your girl friend/boy friends head...) the arm goes numb and falls asleep. Then someone moves and you get that whole pins and needles thing going on...
BAN SPOONING!
As for the article, meh... I tend to ignore small sites like that with reporters who are just trying to get shock value attention.
Though I will laugh if this ends up on Fix- er, Fox news again like Mass Effect.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Here we go, a nice conservative bashing thread. Guess it had to happen. Since we're doing thread derails on Global Warming, we might as well have some fun: http://volokh.com/2009/12/08/the-homogenized-data-is-false/
Um, in fairness, I don't think you'll find a single liberal person affiliated with that site. A spade is a spade and if there is one set of people who harbor the most hate for any kind of change (social, economic, whatever) it's the right wing folks. You don't see liberals or moderates setting up sites bashing people for their lifestyles. No, they only bash conservatives (those that want to, not all of them do). Why? Because Conservatives started in with the hate long ago.
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone"...
Man, conservatives started picking up rocks the moment this was first said looking to hit someone.
I have a hard time with the above statement. I figure I am pretty much a conservative, but lean toward pro-choice and have no problems with homosexuals at all. However, I am pretty sure that we don't have enough data to prove Global Warming, and I think Obama's healthcare plan is a really bad idea.
What am I?
The point is, "Conservatives" don't have a monopoly on hate - the liberals throw around more than their fair share also. Example? Bush is a 'moron', Quayle is an idiot, Palin...well, she's been called all sorts of things. The treatment of the so-called conservative leaders has been at least as hateful as anything that has come out of Glenn Beck's mouth.
As for change....the Fair Tax movement is deemed conservative at the moment - and it would be a very MAJOR change (and one I support).
Well...I've had my say. Off to download the nudity patch :-)
Sure, but in the context of this discussion they certainly "threw the first punches". As for the change comment, it is my fault for not clarifying. Change that helps the rich get richer, makes middle class take a sharp punch in the nose and the poor stay poorer is good and dandy for conservatives. Ironically, the vast majority of them fall into the middle class yet they continuously vote for measures that hurt them. That's a research paper right there.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
Oh, and that's the thing that gets me. Your last comment, though I'm not aiming at you in specific. I'm aiming at the folks who run that site. I can guarantee you if an FBI computer forensics team did a sweep of their work and home computers you'd find some of the dirtiest pornographic material ever. Hypocrits.
In fact, that's something I'd like to see. Random inspections of home and office of the morality patrol entities of the world. You want to preach it and clog up my air space, then you better be a Paragon of virtue. You linger for more than a second in the bra section of a JC Penny magazine and I want to know about it cause that's SIN.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
I wasn't generalizing all conservatives, nor was I bashing them in general. I make it a point to bash idiots when they do or say something stupid. This website happened to be labeled as conservative, so I took the shot.
I seperate myself from labels in politics, since there's no one side of the table I fully agree with. It just so happens that conservatives seem to like making bigger asses of themselves, so they're an easy target.
Come on, its just some ultra conservative drumrollers who really claim that! Man, there aren't enough foreheads to slap.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
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(sorry for mangling the whole quote thing)
It's funny - I think in philosophy and outlook, we somewhat agree. "The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country." It's just that I think we interpret the data differently. For example, I think the FairTax would help the lower classes, and remove the loopholes that the top-end people all enjoy. I think GB and Canada are not really in better shape with healthcare. And, I think less regulation is good and leads to innovation, and increased regulation leads to mediocrity and inefficiency.
I am afraid we are getting to the point that any criticism of any idea, regardless of the merit of the criticism, is spun as hate speech by the other side. At least in this conversation, we've avoided that!
Btw, I do agree with your assessment of the folks that are yelling the loudest about nudity in a game. The track records of preachers and priests are decidedly not good in that area.
No offense but..all those things said about Bush, Quayle etc are pretty much true...atleast in relation to Bush 2. The first Bush Administration in the late 80s / early 90s was atleast pretty smart...Bush 2 was just following daddy's path because he was pretty much forced too...not because he wanted to or was even prepared.
Palin was the biggest mistake Republicans could ever make...she's a Prime Example that conservatives dont' practice what they preach. They preach no sex before marriage yet their own kids who they're ignoring while preaching are out there getting knocked up by some moron who goes and puts his johnson in a nudie magazine...or atleast fakes everyone out about it.
Thats not to say that "Liberals" are much better but really...atleast the administration behind Obama and even Clinton were fairly smart. Sure Clinton couldn't keep it in his pants but atleast instead of continuing to brush it under the rug like a Conservative would he finally owned up deciding the lie wasn't worth it because it was the most retarded thing to be busted over while a president.
Personally I think neither party is perfect since they contain humans. Humans are not perfect. I'll remain on the line and swing to which side has the better ideals for the future. Obama has far better ideals and a chance to make it work then the nut jobs in the current Republican party who are going around riling up all the wrong right wing nut jobs out of their trailers spouting things they have no idea about. I mean really? Health Care in this country is a complete sham atleast Obama is trying to get it to everyone without affecting those that like and can afford a private health care plan.
Anyway on topic....Seriously who cares what these right wing news casters think? Everyone..its best to have a good laugh at it because quite honestly they just take a video and make something up without having any idea lol. I mean seriously DA is a mature rated game ... they're not hiding it like say Hot Coffee incident.
Apparently homosexuality is the root of all evil and is the most pressing concern to conservatives.
Then again, global warming is a myth. (lol).
Hahaha, there isn't even graphic sexual positions in this game like they claim. You kiss the person and lie down (with underwear and bra still on) and the scene ends!
Apparently the writers have something against spooning.
Spooning! Oh, the horror! What is this world coming to when we can watch 2 males spoon in a video game. We are all doomed I tell you! Repent now!
Yes, spoony love. How dreadful it tis.
I seriously don't have an issue with people who have a set of values, morals, whatever you want to call it, and they live by them. Especially if those values don't infringe or try to dictate how others live.
It's when people like this get up on their soapboxes, virtual or on the street corner, is when I get upset. I don't go around spouting of my values and morals. I keep them to myself. I expect the same in return. If I ask you for yours, by all means, talk to my ears bleed. If I don't, then STFU.
Yeah, kinda like spewing liberal drivel on a gaming website. How oppressive.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
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(sorry for mangling the whole quote thing)
It's funny - I think in philosophy and outlook, we somewhat agree. "The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country." It's just that I think we interpret the data differently. For example, I think the FairTax would help the lower classes, and remove the loopholes that the top-end people all enjoy. I think GB and Canada are not really in better shape with healthcare. And, I think less regulation is good and leads to innovation, and increased regulation leads to mediocrity and inefficiency.
I am afraid we are getting to the point that any criticism of any idea, regardless of the merit of the criticism, is spun as hate speech by the other side. At least in this conversation, we've avoided that!
Btw, I do agree with your assessment of the folks that are yelling the loudest about nudity in a game. The track records of preachers and priests are decidedly not good in that area.
I would agree with your innovation argument .. if it had any merit. Health Care has not improved or been innovated in anyway since the dark ages. Hell its not even really regulated anyone can start up an insurance company and pretty much fubar you by covering as little as possible.
You can either afford it or you can't thats how the system works right now and clinics only really cover the basics if you broke your arm or your really sick you can get pretty F'd over if you dont have insurance. They can drop you at random and say Haha Die Poor or they can pretend to help you then screw you over later by refusing to pay.
The Government Needs to step in and offer alternatives and thats pretty much what Obama is trying to do. He's not taking over or heavily regulating anything..he's simply saying hey can't afford health care? Your not covered? Lost your Health Care plan..here ..here's some Free Health Care that everyone should have basic human rights too. Is it a perfect plan? No but its a hell of alot better than nothing which is what we've had for generations.
If the Health Care Insurance industry had their way they'd forclose on your house take everything you have and leave you bleeding in the street. I wouldn't really care either way if I didn't see the struggle my mother went through after having Breast Cancer trying to get on a health care provider's plan when their company changed providers. She almost lost health care insurance completely because she survived Breast Cancer and a new provider wasn't going to take the risk. Luckily she managed to get on a plan but she pays out the bleeding nose for it. You can be rich and health careless..because they can just say "Your not insurable" your not worth it..you should die. Health Insurance is a Nightmare if you have to change providers.
/rant off god drives me nuts when people use that whole innovative argument for frigging everything. You can't innovate Health Care Insurance thats run by a private group. They do whatever they want they don't give a damn about anyone but their wallets.
As for Big O's healthcare plan, yeah, it's not perfect, but it's akin to what they have in Great Britain and Canada and they certainly are in better shape than we are. If data really were the point of Conservatives, they shut up on this one and vote yes.
But it's not. The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country.
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(sorry for mangling the whole quote thing)
It's funny - I think in philosophy and outlook, we somewhat agree. "The facts don't mean a thing to either side, really. It's about holding the party line, not making a better country." It's just that I think we interpret the data differently. For example, I think the FairTax would help the lower classes, and remove the loopholes that the top-end people all enjoy. I think GB and Canada are not really in better shape with healthcare. And, I think less regulation is good and leads to innovation, and increased regulation leads to mediocrity and inefficiency.
I am afraid we are getting to the point that any criticism of any idea, regardless of the merit of the criticism, is spun as hate speech by the other side. At least in this conversation, we've avoided that!
Btw, I do agree with your assessment of the folks that are yelling the loudest about nudity in a game. The track records of preachers and priests are decidedly not good in that area.
I would agree with your innovation argument .. if it had any merit. Health Care has not improved or been innovated in anyway since the dark ages. Hell its not even really regulated anyone can start up an insurance company and pretty much fubar you by covering as little as possible.
You can either afford it or you can't thats how the system works right now and clinics only really cover the basics if you broke your arm or your really sick you can get pretty F'd over if you dont have insurance. They can drop you at random and say Haha Die Poor or they can pretend to help you then screw you over later by refusing to pay.
The Government Needs to step in and offer alternatives and thats pretty much what Obama is trying to do. He's not taking over or heavily regulating anything..he's simply saying hey can't afford health care? Your not covered? Lost your Health Care plan..here ..here's some Free Health Care that everyone should have basic human rights too. Is it a perfect plan? No but its a hell of alot better than nothing which is what we've had for generations.
If the Health Care Insurance industry had their way they'd forclose on your house take everything you have and leave you bleeding in the street. I wouldn't really care either way if I didn't see the struggle my mother went through after having Breast Cancer trying to get on a health care provider's plan when their company changed providers. She almost lost health care insurance completely because she survived Breast Cancer and a new provider wasn't going to take the risk. Luckily she managed to get on a plan but she pays out the bleeding nose for it. You can be rich and health careless..because they can just say "Your not insurable" your not worth it..you should die. Health Insurance is a Nightmare if you have to change providers.
The part of not wanting to take over healthcare might be more believable if not for what happened with GM and a good number of the banks in the country.
Health Insurance Isn't in debt...last time i looked those Banks were pretty much about to sink and take a ton of innocent people with them. Thats a pretty big difference. The health care industry is frigging Mad Rich....Banks/ They made stupid risky investments in giving people loans that they can not realistically afford. Not to mention playing on the stock market which was just dumb in the first place with how lopsided its been since 9/11
Not sure I can comment on the car industry..maybe if we made Better Cars for the money people wouldn't buy fancy forgien cars.
BTW if the government as so much even thinks about Bailing out the Insurance industry instead of improving health care...I'll hitch up my stuff and Move. Damn tired of greedy ass companies that make bad mistakes getting pay outs.