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What game has the best OPEN WORLD pvp?
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Wintergrasp is instanced now. I guess peopel didnt get the Memo. YOU have to que up, you cant just fly in there and start killing people when its going on. You join a que. You go into the loading screen and join WG. So stop saying its World PVP .
So world PvP is non existent in WOW ...
WOW another one of those incredible statements.
First condition to this is of course telling everyone Lake WIntergrasp is not a realm based open world PvP zone with Realm controlled based loot and Raids.
I must have been dreaming when I achieved my 100 th win in WIntergrasp ....as were all those other guys around me.
You werent dreaming when you got that 100th kill, but you're dreaming if you think WG is still Open World PvP when the match is going on.
See? that's a guy PLAYING on a Wow PvP server.
Big difference with playing on a PVE server and then want to complain about PvP on a forum.
On Al Akir not a night passes to see skirmish and massive actions against SW and IF...
On the better PvP servers a rating of 1900 is mediocre at best....
You must play on EU i guess.
The thread discussion started pretty good, until the WoW fans joined...
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
Biggest lie I ever saw.
You can ALWAYS go to Wintergrasp by ANY means (read above). The only limit is that 8 full Raids is the maximum number of players in that zone: 240.
So that has NOTHING to do with "an instance". You can join the battle anytime.
Control of the realm based Z O N E gives access to 3 Raid bosses and PvP loot.
Additionally, having a maximum limit of players also disqualifies it. Battles in EVE have gone beyond a 1,000+. I've seen vids from Darkfall too where massive armies fought
I realize there are probably a lot of players content with 256- players but in EVE I've gotten spoiled by just having more then that in 1 fleet
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
WoW PvP servers have best PvP servers. And I am 100% correct, I went to a private school so I know a lot about different subjects. A lot more than people who went to public schools. If you think WoW PvP sucks, you shouldn't be PvPing at all.
I would have to say WAR of any of the games i have played. Every tier has its own open world pvp area, and its almost required to do it. Its a lot of fun, and constant battles of 50+ on each side is normal.
I didnt bother quoting but for the guy who mentioned MAG, arent we talking about MMO's here? Not to mention its only on the PS3, which means no one will buy it, and with that many people, there are sure to be lag horror stories galore. Not to mention it isnt the least bit open world.
I give up its apparent most people are unclear on what the OP refers to. He should have given more specifics
lol at Darkfall, absolutely hahah.
The pvp is comparable to a barnyard where a bunch of chickens with no heads live.
As for melee? Forget it if you are fighting 2+ people.
Magic wise? Plan to spend a lot of time upping your skills to be able to even use a decent magic spell, and when you can, be prepared to farm tons of mats to cast them.
Archery is cool, thats about it.
Everyones opinion differs, but darkfall, still just lol.
Warhammer Online is fun, despite it failing.
Dark age of camelot is the best, though it is barely hanging on.
Darkfall again, just lol.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
Obviously it does belong in this thread considering you can attack other players of any level in 80% of the world (not counting instances) on the PvP servers. I'd be interested in understanding why you don't think it belongs here, because in your post above you only mention WIntergrasp, which is one zone in a hundred. Is it because it's faction-based and not FFA? Faction based games can have World PvP too. Just becaue you can't attack your own faction does not mean it isn't Open World PvP.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
Harlem.
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
Obviously it does belong in this thread considering you can attack other players of any level in 80% of the world (not counting instances) on the PvP servers. I'd be interested in understanding why you don't think it belongs here, because in your post above you only mention WIntergrasp, which is one zone in a hundred. Is it because it's faction-based and not FFA? Faction based games can have World PvP too. Just becaue you can't attack your own faction does not mean it isn't Open World PvP.
Maybe it doesn't belong because the game is 80% based on instances right now?
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
Obviously it does belong in this thread considering you can attack other players of any level in 80% of the world (not counting instances) on the PvP servers. I'd be interested in understanding why you don't think it belongs here, because in your post above you only mention WIntergrasp, which is one zone in a hundred. Is it because it's faction-based and not FFA? Faction based games can have World PvP too. Just becaue you can't attack your own faction does not mean it isn't Open World PvP.
Open World PVP means you can kill anyone at anytime any place in the world.
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
Obviously it does belong in this thread considering you can attack other players of any level in 80% of the world (not counting instances) on the PvP servers. I'd be interested in understanding why you don't think it belongs here, because in your post above you only mention WIntergrasp, which is one zone in a hundred. Is it because it's faction-based and not FFA? Faction based games can have World PvP too. Just becaue you can't attack your own faction does not mean it isn't Open World PvP.
Open World PVP means you can kill anyone at anytime any place in the world.
Oh, I was under the impression, that you can't attack players in high sec zones... Again, a game doesn't have to be FFA to have Open World PvP.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
Open world PvP = Darkfall and EVE
Thats just the way it is.
going with the home team and EVE, no game has ever made me sit on the edge of my seat before during pvp
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
Obviously it does belong in this thread considering you can attack other players of any level in 80% of the world (not counting instances) on the PvP servers. I'd be interested in understanding why you don't think it belongs here, because in your post above you only mention WIntergrasp, which is one zone in a hundred. Is it because it's faction-based and not FFA? Faction based games can have World PvP too. Just becaue you can't attack your own faction does not mean it isn't Open World PvP.
Open World PVP means you can kill anyone at anytime any place in the world.
Oh, I was under the impression, that you can't attack players in high sec zones... Again, a game doesn't have to be FFA to have Open World PvP.
That is a popular misconception. In EVE Online you can be attacked anywhere. Concord (the NPC police) will try to intercept but their goal is not to protect you but rather, punish the person that killed you
However, Concord can be bribed, etc. Your only security is to belong to an NPC newbie corp and even then, you can still be attacked. But at least Concord will not accept bribes and allow hostile corps to wardec you
He said what game DOES it best, not what game offers free killing anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Doing it best and doing it are two different things. And I stand behind my first statement and say WoW PvP servers do it best. I played Shadowbane for a fraction of time when it was free. I played DAoC but you're limited too much to your area before you're introduced to PvP. I played UO and it was good, but was only populated by naked men running around with capes and cheap weapons. I played AC and AC2 but again if you were the wrong class consider your options death or slow death.
In WoW if you couldn't beat a certain class when you got jumped, you had the means to escape at least. But in my years of PvPing across many MMOs I've seen one MMO do PvP right. Nothing beats the thrill of denying someone of what they thought was an easy kill, by living to see another day.
And to make this clear to others: You can only measure PvP on the merits of the tools available to players to fight within the confines of the settings they are in. And on it's basic level PvP is nothing more than two or more players pitted against each another.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Oh, I was under the impression, that you can't attack players in low sec zones... Again, a game doesn't have to be FFA to have Open World PvP.
So by his own definition .... EVE is not open world PvP...
I can not agree on that one.
...EVE is open world pvp. You can be attacked and killed anywhere. Same with Darkfall.
He said what game DOES it best, not what game offers free killing anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Doing it best and doing it are two different things. And I stand behind my first statement and say WoW PvP servers do it best. I played Shadowbane for a fraction of time when it was free. I played DAoC but you're limited too much to your area before you're introduced to PvP. I played UO and it was good, but was only populated by naked men running around with capes and cheap weapons. I played AC and AC2 but again if you were the wrong class consider your options death or slow death.
In WoW if you couldn't beat a certain class when you got jumped, you had the means to escape at least. But in my years of PvPing across many MMOs I've seen one MMO do PvP right. Nothing beats the thrill of denying someone of what they thought was an easy kill, by living to see another day.
And to make this clear to others: You can only measure PvP on the merits of the tools available to players to fight within the confines of the settings they are in. And on it's basic level PvP is nothing more than two or more players pitted against each another.
WoW cannot do it best when it doesn't qualify as an option in the first place
WoW's World PvP might be terrible at the moment, but in my opinion it has the most potential.
That doesn't matter in regards to the topic. I never said whether it was good/bad. I said WoW has no place in an open world pvp thread
Obviously it does belong in this thread considering you can attack other players of any level in 80% of the world (not counting instances) on the PvP servers. I'd be interested in understanding why you don't think it belongs here, because in your post above you only mention WIntergrasp, which is one zone in a hundred. Is it because it's faction-based and not FFA? Faction based games can have World PvP too. Just becaue you can't attack your own faction does not mean it isn't Open World PvP.
Open World PVP means you can kill anyone at anytime any place in the world.
Oh, I was under the impression, that you can't attack players in high sec zones... Again, a game doesn't have to be FFA to have Open World PvP.
That is a popular misconception. In EVE Online you can be attacked anywhere. Concord (the NPC police) will try to intercept but their goal is not to protect you but rather, punish the person that killed you
However, Concord can be bribed, etc. Your only security is to belong to an NPC newbie corp and even then, you can still be attacked. But at least Concord will not accept bribes and allow hostile corps to wardec you
In that case, I guess you CAN attack players of higher level in the starter areas in WoW since they will be PvP flagged, but you would be silly to do so.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
He said what game DOES it best, not what game offers free killing anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Doing it best and doing it are two different things. And I stand behind my first statement and say WoW PvP servers do it best. I played Shadowbane for a fraction of time when it was free. I played DAoC but you're limited too much to your area before you're introduced to PvP. I played UO and it was good, but was only populated by naked men running around with capes and cheap weapons. I played AC and AC2 but again if you were the wrong class consider your options death or slow death.
In WoW if you couldn't beat a certain class when you got jumped, you had the means to escape at least. But in my years of PvPing across many MMOs I've seen one MMO do PvP right. Nothing beats the thrill of denying someone of what they thought was an easy kill, by living to see another day.
And to make this clear to others: You can only measure PvP on the merits of the tools available to players to fight within the confines of the settings they are in. And on it's basic level PvP is nothing more than two or more players pitted against each another.
WoW cannot do it best when it doesn't qualify as an option in the first place
Fine, you say WoW does not qualify. I will go on record and say that EvE does not qualify. Guess we are even now.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
He said what game DOES it best, not what game offers free killing anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Doing it best and doing it are two different things. And I stand behind my first statement and say WoW PvP servers do it best. I played Shadowbane for a fraction of time when it was free. I played DAoC but you're limited too much to your area before you're introduced to PvP. I played UO and it was good, but was only populated by naked men running around with capes and cheap weapons. I played AC and AC2 but again if you were the wrong class consider your options death or slow death.
In WoW if you couldn't beat a certain class when you got jumped, you had the means to escape at least. But in my years of PvPing across many MMOs I've seen one MMO do PvP right. Nothing beats the thrill of denying someone of what they thought was an easy kill, by living to see another day.
And to make this clear to others: You can only measure PvP on the merits of the tools available to players to fight within the confines of the settings they are in. And on it's basic level PvP is nothing more than two or more players pitted against each another.
WoW cannot do it best when it doesn't qualify as an option in the first place
Fine, you say WoW does not qualify. I will go on record and say that EvE does not qualify. Guess we are even now.
No, now you're just being a troll