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What game has the best OPEN WORLD pvp?
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Asheron's Call Darktide server was the best in its prime, the game is too old now but what a game within a game it was
Im in the beta from allods atm and it feels a bit like the vanilla wow times. But much better cuz they force you to pvp after lvl 22. Questing areas are for both factions with one small neutral camp where the npc's at. You get pvp missions, gear for your pvp rank... Hope the factions are still balanced at release.
Another thing is the beta lvl cap is 30. So we dont have acces to the astral ships and this type of pvp. I can recommend Allods for everyone whos not a wow hater. Best f2p mmo choice! =D
It isn't *that* bad:
Ettenmoors is a fully open PvP area - only a bit small.
The rest of the PvE world before Moria is a single, shared instance, except for the inside of buildings and caves (which are shared instances) and except private instances of course.
Open worlds do not exist in any game, only (big) shared instances.
It isn't *that* bad:
Ettenmoors is a fully open PvP area - only a bit small.
The rest of the PvE world before Moria is a single, shared instance, except for the inside of buildings and caves (which are shared instances) and except private instances of course.
Open worlds do not exist in any game, only (big) shared instances.
Thanks for painting a broad stroke with your ignorance brush, pretty sure open worlds do exist just not in the latest MMOs that went backwards in tech - here I'll even name one... again.... Asheron's Call
The best open world pvp:
Battleground Europe
Eve Online
Shadowbane
Easily Darkfall.
Player made cities that are conquerable/siegeable. Siege equipment. FFA full loot pvp. One of the largest non-instanced gaming worlds. Player made boats of varying sizes, speed and offensive capabilities that are fully destructible. Mount combat.
Large scale battles. Collision detection. Darkfall has it all.
This game is getting better and better.
EvE Online, no question.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
lol no, not with Zorn on this forum, any post about any game he has to make sure there is atleast 1 post about WoW in it. he must get paid by the post not by the letter. he LOVES to hijack threads to post WoW propaganda.
even on WoW pvp servers there is restrictions as to where you can pvp wich is more a closed pvp server not OPEN wich means anywhere any time.
as to the OP not sure i haven't played many OPEN world pvp games, i've played a bunch of pvp games but not many OPEN world pvp. guess my only experience with open world pvp was AoC but i don't think it would be considered the best. pretty sure you could pvp in the towns but guards policing the city would try to kill you if they saw it. but still open world i guess.
Please do explain your version of open world PvP then.
WoW has:
1. Open world with the ability to go to any zone w/o turning into a chicken.
2. Being able to attack other players in a vast majority of the open world.
3. Being able to attack other players of any level.
If you're saying the open world PvP in WoW is not very good, I would agree. But it does exist, and I believe that it has a lot of wasted potential, personally. The only thing that WoW does not have, that almost every other open world PvP game has is FFA PvP. Just because there are factions does not exclude it from having open world pvp. Please do explain what I'm missing.
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The only place you can't willingly attack lower level players is in their starter areas which is what, 10% of the open world? Other than that, you can attack anyone, anytime, anywhere. WTH are you talking about closed pvp server? It doesn't get alot more open than WoW. Theres no "zones" and no artificial barriers between the two factions' territory.
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Real simple bud..... You can attack anyone anywhere in the world without any restrictions. It does not mean "in a vast majority of the open world." That is a limititation that eliminates WOW from the conversation.
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Why does it bother people so much when they "discover" that WOW is not a true open world PVP game? That's like getting all pissy if you're a LOTRO player and saying wth do you mean it's instanced?
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I think it is more about the need to bring WOW into every thread one way or another. Everyone knows that WOW does not have open world PVP but that does nothing to hinder the advertising department.
I think it is more about the need to bring WOW into every thread one way or another. Everyone knows that WOW does not have open world PVP but that does nothing to hinder the advertising department.
I'm having a hard time understanding how some people do not understand how it is not open world PVP.
In the end you are probably correct. As usual.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
The game I'm playing has some sick open world pvp.
Please do explain your version of open world PvP then.
WoW has:
1. Open world with the ability to go to any zone w/o turning into a chicken.
2. Being able to attack other players in a vast majority of the open world.
3. Being able to attack other players of any level.
If you're saying the open world PvP in WoW is not very good, I would agree. But it does exist, and I believe that it has a lot of wasted potential, personally. The only thing that WoW does not have, that almost every other open world PvP game has is FFA PvP. Just because there are factions does not exclude it from having open world pvp. Please do explain what I'm missing.
lol!i ll bite!first yes your right in vanilla wow it was a true open world pvp and pve game plus instance etc
but when they added arena they killed any player deemmed of the name from ever staying in openworld to pvp without reward
when they can go in any place instanced and get reawrd to pvp.
the only player you see in open world that pvp are ganker witch in my book dont count
but then blizzard could very easilly reverse this .
2 thing :
rise the old vanilla wow world raid dragon ,5 i believe.to lvl 80 and make reward avail from those just like onixia but uninstanced
then time those dragon so everybody horde and allies have to fight to get the dragon
i can safely say nobody in the whole time wow exsited ever saw an epic battle like that
you know what !dont bring your hopes up tho!the reason blizzard dont do those easy change is one small detail!
if blizzard can limit wg amount of player to 250 .how the hell will blizzard try to contain 15 000 player on a popular server maybe even more
the sad truth is blizzard knows they are too popular so they had no choice they had to instance all.
but remember this!hope blizzard never find a way to make it happen because if they do
the rest of mmo will be hurt for the next decade.
Amazing how many games are out there that I have never heard of. Thanks for mentioning it.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Hopefully soon we'll get Mortal Online and Earthrise. Right now the list is still pretty small: EVE, Darkfall, UO, and AC1
In EVE Online, is it possible to attack players while they are doing missions or are at starbases nowadays? If this isn't the case, it should be eliminated as well.
Oh my God.
You just demonstrated you never set foot in Wintergrasp... You realise that ???
No Wintergrasp means no VOA RAids, no PvP vendor, no shards,
Wintergrasp means EVERY night on EVERY server massive fighting in an open world PvP zone.... EVEN on PVE servers.
FUN. Does the word ring a bell ?
Wintergrasp is pop capped to 240 guys fighting, but you can always go there and join the fight and it is Realm based and NOT instanced.
It has 100 time more open world PvP than Silithus/plaguelands ever had...
You just showed you want to have an opinion based on forums ... sad really.
For those that never visited the place:
Here see some real Siege fighting : http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=96073
OK don't drool on the carpet DF lovers ...
You basically just described staged fighting. which is incredibly close to battlegrounds.
Does wow have open pvp? Yes
Is WoW's open PvP the best? No, it's pvp is nowheres near the open pvp Eve/DF/DAoC/EQ2/EQ/L2/UO all have.
Why? It's more rewarding to do bgs/arenas.
Old school WoW pvp was amazing, constant pvp fights all over the world that makes WG look like shit. Seriously, a staged fight ever 2.5 hours being the only form of 'open' pvp the people of the game USE.
However, it does have open PvP and noone can argue it doesn't. It just blows and anyone saying otherwise is either in denial, or playing on some amazing and secretly super high populated server full of pvp who enjoy pvp, not rewards.
Oh, and btw, this is what real siege pvp is: www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
Careful not to ejaculate in your pants.
R.I.P Shadowbane.
Real simple bud..... You can attack anyone anywhere in the world without any restrictions. It does not mean "in a vast majority of the open world." That is a limititation that eliminates WOW from the conversation.
LoL, OK , so the discussion is between EvE and Darkfall then? A game can have open world pvp and still have starter areas with restricted PvP. You are just a WoW hater. Which is fine, but it still does have open world PvP.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
Both Eve and Darkfall have protected areas for noobs. Darkfall uses archers. Eve has a training zone.
What makes WoW's pvp king is a responsive combat system, you press a key to fire off you're instant spell and it happens instantly, not two seconds later.
WoW's combat is involved with many counter measures. Know how to pvp in WoW means know how to pvp against each class and each of the three class branches. People practice in WoW to get better. They practice by dueling.
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More instanced battleground crap.
Getting back to the OP's question. Since WoW and WAR are heavily instanced and lean towards PvE centric mostly, they dont make the cut in my book. But some that transcend the adolescent and cheap design of drawing community together through PvP in its broadest competetive sense, aside from the myopic view that its just combat are (and not necessarily in this order):
1. EvE www.eveonline.com/
2. Darkfall www.darkfallonline.com/index.html
3. Perpetuum www.perpetuum-online.com/
4. Mortal Online www.mortalonline.com/
The last 2 having appealing, more open world, player-driven ecosystem potential, but are at the cusp of launch.
More instanced battleground crap.
That's not an instance...
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