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Why all the hate? - It has become intolerable
Gobwar
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I would like to ask this forums members such a simple question, "Why all the hate?" Yeah, I really don't understand this. Why people who completely bash a game, still stay around here? Why do some people keep spreading flamebaits on which cause constant wars between games, constant comparison and everything.
I always tough that this is a forum made for talking about Mortal Online, not anything like Mortal Online versus Darkfall and so on, can't discussion like this be left on other forums dedicated to all random talking?
This has gone very far, I mean moderators should really think what is going on here, you can just look the "general discussion" once and see how much fight is in here...
I don't know if I have been long enough here to say this but, really I rarely see people who are in the mid 4-8 reviews of this game, it has gone to this the game either
A: Sucks
B: Is completely awesome
It ain't neither. If you have read the professional game reviewers at all, they clearly state the game being either below average or slightly over average at this point, at the beta point. They ain't reviews, they are previews. But the point here is that they don't bash em, they don't give game a tag "Sucks" Or "Perfect" There are certain people here who completely just do one or the other, the people in the middle saying "It's alright", " I don't like this that much" don't have any voice between those two, it's like hell versus heaven.
TL;DR - As people understand, there must be opinions, but the opinions HERE are one or the another "completely sucks" - "completely perfect" they shouldn't be like that. I'm trying to get contact with a proper reviewer in the upcoming days and hopefully he can share an opinion on this. Mmorpg.com is a good place with tons of forums for everygame, but sometimes, there will pop up some game forums in here, that just are in complete chaos..
You can burn me, but i wont die.
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Fanbots will defend anything, even a broken and incomplete game.
If your asking where all the hate is, go check out the official MO forums. If someone criticizes the Starvault gods or asks a tough question about MO, they get flamed.
I'm here because I find it entertaining.
There's a trainwreck waiting to happen, and I will get a good chuckle out of it and move on. I'm at work when I chat here so I am basically getting paid to post
Why all the hate?
Because this is a lightly moderated forum for a FFA PVP game. This game type attracts a certain type of personality, one that thrives on anonymous internet conflict.
It's not really rocket science when you think about it.
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It's pretty good point..
You can burn me, but i wont die.
Mortal Online will fail
Why?
Because the majority of the MMO gaming community cant even get started in it thats why.
You pay through the bloody nose for the game to start with and then have to shell out a fee each month for what? - to log in and get ganked on arrival?, to join a clan full of twats who only want to PVP all the while?
Fuck that
Flametrolls will attack anything, calling it names at cursing a game's very existance just because it didn't go the way they wanted.
Ignorant kids ignore the fact that smaller companies cannot have infinite development time. Time is money, unfortunately for SV this has been their largest setback. Their relatively small team working on a niche title (UO 3D hardcore remake) means they'll always be against the wall from BROKEN games such as WoW whom hold the hands on their players.....not allowing them to think for themselves.
From an outside perspective looking in, Mortal Online is NOT broken or "incomplete". They promised a VERY limited amount of features for launch. Of which, having not launched yet (or charging subs...e.g: launched) they have almost ALL of the features they said they could provide upon launch. Right now, it seems they are building slowly upon those features in an incremental way.
In the end, you must simply ignore the trolls and have conversations on this forum with people NOT attacking you (or your favored game). Also, reporting trolls/flamers works very well too.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
So because the game doesn't hold your hand, and tell you HOW to play you throw it to the curb based on a biased ill-thought out opinion?
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
So because the game doesn't hold your hand, and tell you HOW to play you throw it to the curb based on a biased ill-thought out opinion?
Is it really so hard to use ingame help ?
There's also a nooblet guide on client download site.
Plenty time to get some knowledge about game, before client's download ends.
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I do not hate it at all.
In fact, there is little to hate.
Because there really is nothing in the game, except for some reasonably pretty scenes and a huge world of ugly, empty terrain in between them.
That is not opinion, as you would know when playing it. This game just shouldn't be in open beta, more like alpha.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
I don't hate the game, MO is what is. (promising Alpha build) I hate fanbotz that claim it is what it isnt.
I win!!! LOL@U
This is exactly what needs to be uprooted from the forums... This is once again the same as "sucks" and it doesn't go in line with facts that it's a beta build game with over 80% of content in as one of the reviews already said. It's shaping up nicely as nearly all previews have said. Don't do like that, or atleast you shouldn't. As it really shows some ignorancy.. and calling it an Alpha is also heavy bashing. As I said in my main post, why people who have such an heavy opinion stay around here?
You can burn me, but i wont die.
This is exactly what needs to be uprooted from the forums... This is once again the same as "sucks" and it doesn't go in line with facts that it's a beta build game with over 80% of content in as one of the reviews already said. It's shaping up nicely as nearly all previews have said. Don't do like that, or atleast you shouldn't. As it really shows some ignorancy.. and calling it an Alpha is also heavy bashing. As I said in my main post, why people who have such an heavy opinion stay around here?
This is why the game has haters. He stated his (fairly accurate) opinion and you shot it down with no counter argument, call him ignorant etc.
Just because 80% of the promised content is in the game, doesn't mean that the game is content rich or fun. Even if 100% of the promised content was in, it doesn't mean that it's a finished game or worth anyone's time.
If the game is getting heavily bashed then delusional fanboy's come rolling in to defend it, then it only feeds the desire to bash it even more. Fanboys should just ignore the negative posts/threads and they will sink into the back pages of the forums a lot sooner. Problem solved.
First let me say that I find your whole post to be insulting to the community here at large.
Secondly if you want to know why there are so many negative posts about Mortal Online simply refer to the poll found here:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3412469
It is now up to 666 votes. The overwhelming majority of opinions rate MO very poorly. This is not the work of a few oddballs hating on the game, it is a representation of 666 people which is a pretty significant portion of the community reading this forum. They are entitled to their views on the game/beta and just because they aren't in synch with your's doesn;t mean that they are wrong. If the poll I linked showed even middling support for the state of the game you might have a case. Ihe evidence does not support your conclusion that there is a small vocal minority of people who dislike the game.. actually it shows quite th eopposite.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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At last someone who hits the nail, I was on my way leaving this forum, there are very few constructive threads here.
I have been playing the MO beta since block B and I would say the the alpha level is past a long time ago. It's a game that is really difficult to compare to other games, at least I think so. I just wanted to say that I totally agree with the original thread.
For me its not hate, its amusement. I love MO for all the laughs its been providing me.
If you stand VERY still, and close your eyes, after a minute you can actually FEEL the universe revolving around PvP.
I totally agree with you.
Yeah, it's most entertaining mmo around. It made me ROTFL more than all other games combined
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I don't hate the game at all, I'm frustrated at Starvault because they're just pushing stuff out of the door half-done, and it's leaving a terrible impression with the customers and leaving the game foundering in a swamp of bugs and exploits.
There are always idiots who bash a game for no reason, but the majority of "haters" here have ligitmate reasons to criticise the game, and it's Starvault's poor development ethos that is causing it.
Being that this is your first post I would say you were never ON the forums anyway.
Kind of funny how all these folks come along saying the game is great (or bad) and have a post count of one. And sadly in more recent memory, all the 1 post count posters are saying MO rules. Go figure eh?
My situation exactly. Its not hate, it's forum PVP which I enjoy participating in.
If I didn't I wouldn't read the forums, which is probably what some other people should do if it upsets them to read extreme opinions on MMORPG.com.
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Darkfall set the standard for FFA pvp sandbox games with full loot. It didn't set the bar very high. It failed at being the UO replacement many were looking for, but succeeded at being a good pvp MMO. Now MO seems to be going the same way. Failing at being an UO replacement, while at the same time being a worse pvp game than Darkfall was at release. It's hardly unexpected, but understandable that there's a lot of disappointment from those who expected MO to be great right from the start, and gloating from those who stuck with Darkfall while people were raving about how MO would be the next coming of Jebus.
Personally, I've stopped updating the MO client and logging into the beta. I don't mind the bugs, but even a beta has to be somewhat fun to be worth my time. I'll reserve my final judgement for the release version, as that's what I've paid for. I expect to log on a few times, be terribly bored, and move on, but I'm only happy to be proven wrong.
Hate reactions from those who are disappointed, and gloating from the "I told you so!" crowd is inevitable even if it turns out better than expected. It's rather high profile for an indie game after all (at least on these boards). It'll die down eventually if enough people decide it's worth sticking with, though. If it does crash and burn, it will probably last a little longer and then replace Dark and Light as the butt of all MMO failure jokes, but I think SV deserves better than that for the effort they've made so far.
This is exactly what needs to be uprooted from the forums... This is once again the same as "sucks" and it doesn't go in line with facts that it's a beta build game with over 80% of content in as one of the reviews already said. It's shaping up nicely as nearly all previews have said. Don't do like that, or atleast you shouldn't. As it really shows some ignorancy.. and calling it an Alpha is also heavy bashing. As I said in my main post, why people who have such an heavy opinion stay around here?
80% of an incomplete game is still an incomplete game for which they are charging full price for. The devs admitting to doing so does only make it marginally better but the game is still an unfinished game.
And if you forget about the content; you have the crappy unresponsive UI, the clunky combat, the tons of bugs and AI problems etc etc. Were those "features" announced as well?
As for why we are "here" I can only talk for myself but I am here because it is "neutral ground" where the moderators of the official forums wont ban you for saying something you dont like about the game and I can have a, somewhat, reasonable discussions with people who are not blind fanboys.
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Why the hate?
Game.exe......................I am not going to add anything else.
Actually I will.
They really need to hire a professional coder, the client is utter shit.
But I won't use the word "hate".
I would say "deeply disappointed" is a better definition for MO.
This is exactly what needs to be uprooted from the forums... This is once again the same as "sucks" and it doesn't go in line with facts that it's a beta build game with over 80% of content in as one of the reviews already said. It's shaping up nicely as nearly all previews have said. Don't do like that, or atleast you shouldn't. As it really shows some ignorancy.. and calling it an Alpha is also heavy bashing. As I said in my main post, why people who have such an heavy opinion stay around here?
80% of an incomplete game is still an incomplete game for which they are charging full price for. The devs admitting to doing so does only make it marginally better but the game is still an unfinished game.
And if you forget about the content; you have the crappy unresponsive UI, the clunky combat, the tons of bugs and AI problems etc etc. Were those "features" announced as well?
As for why we are "here" I can only talk for myself but I am here because it is "neutral ground" where the moderators of the official forums wont ban you for saying something you dont like about the game and I can have a, somewhat, reasonable discussions with people who are not blind fanboys.
The funny thing is the majority of those "previews" read like SV themselves wrote them.
Wait until real reveiws come out. DF's scores will be huge compared.
/-out forum comunity; well... all forum games since last 2 years in this site are being used by ppl to bash games surelly by all kind of resaons but really is a thing i can hardly undersantd, what is the point; what is your reward? hardly get it. So Y full of haters, with zero criterium in adittion (pls get some info before u ask devs on beta forum to put in classbased quests, eliminate ffa, or whatever feature you miss from your prefered mmo, dont be afraid of new things) u can see them open threads and post assiduously.
/-out MO, i like it; some bugs pisses me, i would like it to be ready for an ironed-flawless launch tomorrow ; but somehow i learned things are not just how u want them to be. Mayb MO fails because SV goes bankrrupt but i will still like the game they seem to try to do;
-where grind is minimum and dont need to wait X lvls to get Z item wich be replaced by WTF at lvl WHOCARES (sad thing is that people beg for this type of content and claim that ther is none if it is not pointed by a flashing golden arrow, even if u have plenty of games that offers u that gamestyle);
-where i can stand into a city and take time to help somebody sharing info or playing the role i chose to play or,,,, without the anxious urge of the race to awesomenes most mmos have become into; up to SV to give us tools enough but there is allready ppl trying to play as curriers , as escorts, horse sellers,
-i like the realism they are trying to focus on, the mechanics of crafting, skills and others (like housing , taming, refining) are complex and have their own logic.
i supported and tried mostly all of mmos lately i have seen them buggin, exploited, hacked, some gamebreaking some childish, and all claim to be AAA runned by 100+ emplyees top enterprises, honestly cant see the diference.
and i will like to add, i think there is a trend in mmo comunity that drives u to try every mmo that comes out, and keep trying, but feeling like no one fullfits our wishes, we want more and complain complain; someone pointed we are consumers, but i may point some of us are compulsive consumers and therefore ill.
took m some time to write this, and surely will take to read; hope worth the effort.