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Full Loot Bag Video Review! "$108 worth of fail"

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  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987



    Originally posted by joker007mo



     

    if i wanted to paint figurines id have stayed in kindergarten is also why i never got into warhammer spend a fortune to take hours painting hell spend more time painting then actually takes to play a game

     

    Lmao...  Good one...   image  I would not want to do that either, not sure why anyone would spend hour painting them... image

    Not sure why anyone would spend multiple hours in a forum for a game they do not play? image

  • SigrandSigrand Member UncommonPosts: 367

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy



    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987



    Originally posted by joker007mo



     

    if i wanted to paint figurines id have stayed in kindergarten is also why i never got into warhammer spend a fortune to take hours painting hell spend more time painting then actually takes to play a game

     

    Lmao...  Good one...   image  I would not want to do that either, not sure why anyone would spend hour painting them... image

    Not sure why anyone would spend multiple hours in a forum for a game they do not play? image

    Nicely done there. image

  • joker007mojoker007mo Member Posts: 712

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy



    Originally posted by dzikun



    Who the hell cares about the random figurines they sell you for that amount of cash!? I mean all you get is a small bag, crappy poster, 2 figurines and 1 dvd with a broken client for a broken game... If thats not a scam the i don't know what is.

     

    The quality of those figurines does not matter AT ALL.

    Of course it does, the videos main staple besides the book is that the figures are crappy.  So that makes his video incorrect which in turn messes up the whole thing imo. He needs to remake it without the figures or something. Because anyone who knows a little bit about pewter figures will watch that review and laugh at him for how naive he is.

    having seen the video i can agree with him being pissed those figurines look like some shitty knockoff of a little green soldier holding an axe  i too would be rather unimpressed though the book didnt seem that horrible granted its almost empty but ive played games that i wished i had extra pages to write in so i dont know but i defenitly wouldnt pay for that

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  • joker007mojoker007mo Member Posts: 712

    Originally posted by tcosaddict



    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy



    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987



    Originally posted by joker007mo



     

    if i wanted to paint figurines id have stayed in kindergarten is also why i never got into warhammer spend a fortune to take hours painting hell spend more time painting then actually takes to play a game

     

    Lmao...  Good one...   image  I would not want to do that either, not sure why anyone would spend hour painting them... image

    Not sure why anyone would spend multiple hours in a forum for a game they do not play? image

    Nicely done there. image

    maybe i did want to play til i saw how craptastic this game is and decided to dodge the bullet

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by championsFan



    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987



    Originally posted by championsFan



    For some who likes to paint miniatures, those figures are worth $10-$20 (the decent level of detail is the key).  But this requires some experience and a good paint set, so for most gamers the figurines are quite crappy. 

     

    It was the size of his thumb and one of them had a broken hand.

     

    I'm just saying that from a figure modeling point of view the figures aren't totally crappy and worthless.   The model being the size of a thumb is normal, and the more seperate pieces the metal model is in, the better it is (since the metal will bond perfectly with superglue, and this way the pose can be customized).   The hand may not have been broken, it is likely that not all models are the same, and some are one-piece while others have a few pieces like separate arms or hands (or they may be broken, which would be pathetic but still trivial to fix for a modeler).  

    Here is a $20 model from games workshop, it comes as a single piece of unpainted metal 1.1 inches high:

     

    The mortal figure has lower production and artistic quality, and the figurines don't come close to justifying the cost of the loot bag, but I guess I am saying that at least someone who already models figurines would probably consider those mortal figures to be worth $10, and if they are a fan of MO as well then I could see them being worth $20 at most.   But to sell these to people without modeling paints etc makes no sense.   Maybe the SV employees should show everyone how good a job they did with their own figurines?   The non-modeling players, a large majority,  can either waste money on paints and brushes and make a terrible mess, or the figurines will sit unpainted forever, totally crappy.

    Nice post..

    I'm trying to break it down into what costs what.

    You have the game of course, which is roughly $40. A pewter model which can easily run anywhere from 15-30 bucks. Lets say 20 for now, custom work isn't cheap with metal figurines. That puts us at about 60 bucks. The book lets say about 10-15, bringing us to about 70 or so. The bag? About 5-10 I would presume. Putting us at about 80 bucks, the metal box for MO another 5 or so. I'd say you're getting ripped off for close to 40 bucks assuming I didn't miss anything.

    I still find it hilarious this guy made such a fuss, IMO the fool here is he who pays for something blindly, then mocks what he got. If anything should be mocked it's him for being a stooge whom allows himself to be ripped off. That's just me though, maybe I'm a jerk, screw it though we need the stupid people, otherwise we wouldn't find out scams like this exist.

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  • KrewelKrewel Member Posts: 390

    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.

    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.

    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!

  • DreathorDreathor Member Posts: 537

    I generally despise the OP and his posts on MO, but I just had to say:

    The sandbox book is amazing :).

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  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by Krewel



    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.

    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.

    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!

    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.

  • KrewelKrewel Member Posts: 390

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy



    Originally posted by Krewel



    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.

    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.

    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!

    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.

     

    In about 10 years, rofl? Yeah, just like this Limited Edition loot bad - it will be buried in a dumpster. Hear that, kids, this guy has "hard core" pewter figures which will earn him a tuition fee for Harvard in 10 years.

    Now I've seen everything on this forum, really - a guy bragging about toy figures!

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,724

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    To all those who think the figures are bad. Maybe you just don't know pewter figures. They always come with parts detached for a reason, to prevent them from breaking upon shipping. Also these figures are actually good quality pewter figures. The book however is a different story. Just want to clear it up because it seems a lot of people are basing an opinion off of being misinformed.

    Hi and welcome to MMORPG.COM!!!!  Always good to see some fresh blood around!  Seems like a lot of folks choose to make their first posts in the MO section here.  Personally I can't comment of the quality of the figures as I haven't seen them.  They seemed kind of standard pewter figures to me but I couldn;t say if they were good/bad (except of course for the ones that were broken in transit).  Do you by chance have a LootBag that you are basing your opinion on? 

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  • Einherjar_LCEinherjar_LC Member UncommonPosts: 1,055

    Originally posted by Thillian



    Originally posted by dzikun

    Who the hell cares about the random figurines they sell you for that amount of cash!? I mean all you get is a small bag, crappy poster, 2 figurines and 1 dvd with a broken client for a broken game... If thats not a scam the i don't know what is.

     

    The quality of those figurines does not matter AT ALL.

     Seriously, Lotro collector was a bigger scam. Yes it was a bit cheaper (around 60 british pounds - 80-90$)

    It was promised to contain cloth map, metal figure, soundtrack CD, and artbook. It didnt have artbook, it had paper map instead of cloth map, no figure and no soundtrack CD. Not sure if there was the same problem in US, but European was all messed up.

    Same deal in the States and I agree it was easily one of the worst CE's I have ever purchased.

     

    Fortunately the game rocked at the time so it was easily overlooked, for me anyways.

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  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by Krewel



    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy



    Originally posted by Krewel



    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.

    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.

    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!

    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.

     

    In about 10 years, rofl? Yeah, just like this Limited Edition loot bad - it will be buried in a dumpster. Hear that, kids, this guy has "hard core" pewter figures which will earn him a tuition fee for Harvard in 10 years.

    Now I've seen everything on this forum, really - a guy bragging about toy figures!

    Mmm apparently you know nothing about collection edition figures.

    http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=6326446

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    Originally posted by Krewel

    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.
    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.
    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!
    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.

    LOL! Are you serious? In ten years no one will remember what MO even was much less want some crappy generic brand pewter figures that... don't really represent the game at all do they? I mean they aren't modeled from real in game characters, they are just some generic warrior figures. For all you know they are outdated Greyhawk figures that Starvault managed to pick up for pennies on the dollar and then slapped their name on.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,724

    Easilly one of the funniest reviews I have ever seen... the "sandbox book" is an instant classic line.. and then when he went on to describe the DVD's uselessness I had to pause it to catch my breath from laughing.  Combined with his accent and his muscle shirt.. this was the most fun video I have seen in weeks!

     

    Edit to add:  It was like having JeanClaude VanDamme do the review.

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  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188



    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    To all those who think the figures are bad. Maybe you just don't know pewter figures. They always come with parts detached for a reason, to prevent them from breaking upon shipping. Also these figures are actually good quality pewter figures. The book however is a different story. Just want to clear it up because it seems a lot of people are basing an opinion off of being misinformed.

    Hi and welcome to MMORPG.COM!!!!  Always good to see some fresh blood around!  Seems like a lot of folks choose to make their first posts in the MO section here.  Personally I can't comment of the quality of the figures as I haven't seen them.  They seemed kind of standard pewter figures to me but I couldn;t say if they were good/bad (except of course for the ones that were broken in transit).  Do you by chance have a LootBag that you are basing your opinion on? 

    I do not personally have a bag. I have seen pictures of the figures from friends and such. I know the company and I know the quality for figures. They are quality figures. They easily sell for $20 a piece in the box.

  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by xaldraxius

     




    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy







    Originally posted by Krewel



    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.

    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.

    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!





    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.


    LOL! Are you serious? In ten years no one will remember what MO even was much less want some crappy generic brand pewter figures that... don't really represent the game at all do they? I mean they aren't modeled from real in game characters, they are just some generic warrior figures. For all you know they are outdated Greyhawk figures that Starvault managed to pick up for pennies on the dollar and then slapped their name on.

    Wow am I the only one here that is not looking at the game and just the figures. IF the game dies then the figures will be worth even more so even BETTER. Maybe your parents didn't teach you about collectors items and such.

    My view on the figures is nothing more then a collectors point of view nothing more. I could care less if the game dies tomorrow. 

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  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     


    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy




    Originally posted by Krewel

    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.
    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.
    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!


    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.



    LOL! Are you serious? In ten years no one will remember what MO even was much less want some crappy generic brand pewter figures that... don't really represent the game at all do they? I mean they aren't modeled from real in game characters, they are just some generic warrior figures. For all you know they are outdated Greyhawk figures that Starvault managed to pick up for pennies on the dollar and then slapped their name on.


    Wow am I the only one here that is not looking at the game and just the figures. IF the game dies then the figures will be worth even more so even BETTER. Maybe your parents didn't teach you about collectors items and such.
    My view on the figures is nothing more then a collectors point of view nothing more. I could care less if the game dies tomorrow.  I have only been on these forums for a day and I can already tell the kind of people who inhabit this place.


    A: No as a matter of fact my parents didn't teach me about collectibles, I guess they were too busy teaching me about stuff that wasn't retarded.

    B: In order for them to gain value as a collectible someone has to want to collect them, meaning if the games dies the silent gasping death I foresee it dying, no one will give half a crap about anything related to it. Supply and demand.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,724

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    Wow am I the only one here that is not looking at the game and just the figures. IF the game dies then the figures will be worth even more so even BETTER. Maybe your parents didn't teach you about collectors items and such.

    My view on the figures is nothing more then a collectors point of view nothing more. I could care less if the game dies tomorrow.  I have only been on these forums for a day and I can already tell the kind of people who inhabit this place.

    Now I don't think that last line was really needed, and to be fair you are claiming to be an expert but have never actually seen the figures in person so you must at least agree that final opinion on their quality should be reserved until that happens.... Also, quality sometimes has little to do with value as many of the most valuable collectors items were in fact mistakes (such as misprinted coins or stamps etc).  It's impossible to judge their future worth at this time but people who have actually purchased them (such as the person in the video) should be entitled to their opinions about the quality of the item they received.   Sure you may have a differing opinion but it doesn't make his (who actually bought them) any less valid.

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  • KrewelKrewel Member Posts: 390

    Like the guy said - crappy game equals useless and rubbish figurines that noone gives a shit about. If the figurines signified something truly memorable, then this whole statement "it will sell for so much my son will go to Harvard" would actually be worth to think about.

  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Originally posted by xaldraxius

     




    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy







    Originally posted by xaldraxius

     








    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy












    Originally posted by Krewel



    Wtf are some of you talking about? The figurines are absolutely crappy, they look like those plastic soldier toys that were so in vogue in the eighties. Who cares if they are "pewter" or whatever, they're dogshit and so tiny your children could eat them.

    Mortal Online is so hardcore sandbox you even need to paint your minuscule figurines with a microscopic brush.

    If this limited edition turd bag isn't empirical proof enough that this game is a scam, then I don't know what is. I guess these days we have such "shitty" and "uncreative" MMOs like WoW it's perfectly acceptable to pay 100$ dollars to some basement dwellers who ship a useless client dvd to your home!










    The pewter figures are fine and if you had any sense you would want some of those figures. I have some very hard core pewter figure collectors who would love to get there hands on those MO figures. Because in about 10 years those bitches will be worth fucking TONS of money. So go ahead, your stupid is showing.








    LOL! Are you serious? In ten years no one will remember what MO even was much less want some crappy generic brand pewter figures that... don't really represent the game at all do they? I mean they aren't modeled from real in game characters, they are just some generic warrior figures. For all you know they are outdated Greyhawk figures that Starvault managed to pick up for pennies on the dollar and then slapped their name on.




    Wow am I the only one here that is not looking at the game and just the figures. IF the game dies then the figures will be worth even more so even BETTER. Maybe your parents didn't teach you about collectors items and such.

    My view on the figures is nothing more then a collectors point of view nothing more. I could care less if the game dies tomorrow.  I have only been on these forums for a day and I can already tell the kind of people who inhabit this place.





    A: No as a matter of fact my parents didn't teach me about collectibles, I guess they were too busy teaching me about stuff that wasn't retarded.

    B: In order for them to gain value as a collectible someone has to want to collect them, meaning if the games dies the silent gasping death I foresee it dying, no one will give half a crap about anything related to it. Supply and demand.

    Stuff eh, i guess that stuff made you such a great addition to the MMORPG.com family. 

    And, in fact I would collect them, so anyone who has these figures and wishes to get rid of them let me know. I will take these horrible figures off your hands. Although they have to still be boxed.

    A side note, just because this guy seems to want to argue for the sake of trying to sound like he knows whats going on. The fact that reaper has made them is enough to make them worth collecting. So in 10 years when someone pulls them out and says I have some reaper figures made for some game called Mortal Online, since the game wasn't huge but reaper made them and there is a limited amount someone will want to buy them. And they will be worth a bit of cash.

    Now if your parents never taught you about collectibles then why do you keep coming back like you know wtf is going on. I suggest you stick to things you know.

  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630

    The real value is clearly  the CE bag. Twenty years from now, some guy on e-bay who needs something to put his collectable pet rock in will shell out $200 for that bag, easy. You people know nothing of the value of bags.

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  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    The fact is you guys are sadly mistaken and for some reason want to argue for the sake of arguing. Even myself as a person who clearly doesn't care if Mortal survives or dies turns into a fanboi because I defend the fact of the pewter figure being worth money. Its truely sad. I have never seen a forum so raging as this one.

  • sassoonsssassoonss Member UncommonPosts: 1,132

    lol sandbox manual book .Wow thats a new one for me too

    and to think people are shelling out money for collector edition like this is seriously mind boggling

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    ((No more quotes, this is getting to take up too much space.))


    Because I don't have to be taught something by my parents to know about it? Figure collecting is nowhere near as popular now as it was in the '80s when... *gasp* I used to do it. I used to collect comics too, and I know that the hardest part about collecting is finding someone willing to pay the price that an item is supposedly worth. Of course I will give you that in the internet era that is probably a lot easier to do. Let's go back to that Doom figure for a sec...

    Nice box first off; officially licensed packaging made for collecting.

    Secondly the character is a demon from the game. This is important, because if it were a figure that had no obvious connection to the game then it wouldn't be worth near as much. ((Not exactly true due to the obvious values of misprint runs... etc. But that's not the point I'm making.)) Who would want a Doom collectible box with a figure of a generic guy with a gun?

    Lastly Doom was a huge hit of a game that spawned a bunch of sequels as well as a movie ((Edited to be less confusing)) . Mortal Online is at it's best a niche' game and at it's worst a complete scam. If there were Dark & Light figurines floating around out there do you think they'd be worth a nickle? Of course YOU do because you think just because something is rare it has some intrinsic value, but without a demand for them they aren't worth jack.

  • phrankphrank Member Posts: 238

    @ AllSeeingGuy, So why are you here again if you don't care about Mortal Online?? Strange, new account, doesn't care about MO but wants to argue in favor of it.....

    Now where have we seen this before *cough* DF, DnL, MO *cough* fawnbois.... 

     

    BTW this new editor sucks donkey balls

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