I did. Read it again. You bought an item that saves you from having to buy mounts in the future. So, you are getting a money advantage in game from a cash purchase.
A mount is not a fluff item.
This most certainly is a fluff item. Sorry if you can't understand that.
As to you assertation that it is gold buying, you are really stretching an argument to the max to get there.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think you can see that the majority of posters disagree with you.
After much deliberation I have decided this is a good thing.
This is the begining of the end for WoW, the money men just will not be able to stop themselves. WoW RIP thank god.
It won't end wow.
It will just disenfranchise those who wouldn't play because of such things and make it easier for players who do want such things to come into the fold.
this is one place where I agree with mmo_doubter. It will affect the industry. Where WoW goes a lot of other companies will soon follow.
I've always been pretty indifferent to fluff items or mounts in cash shops and I still am.
However, it is one place where game companies are going to have to tread carefully.
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It does scale to the highest mount, but if you have epic flying training. Which usually allows you to go 280%, because most of the epic flyers are 280, this mount allows you to go 310% speed, which is like the ultra rare drops, and the arena mount.
What I am wondering is whether the cash mount will scale up to level 300 if you have the skill, but haven't bought a mount of that level. Given the point about the 310% speed - I gather that I was right about the automatic scaling. Which implies that owning this mount means you will never have to buy another mount on that account. A substancial saving in gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
The argument that Doubter made saying that buying it is like buying gold is ridiculous. What if you go buy a soda from the corner store and the store owner goes out and buys Crystal Meth and dies, are you killing him?
That is the most bizzarre and illogical analogy I have ever read.
I'm not going to write it again. If you can't understand it, that's your issue, not mine.
Your action, buying a mount, does not make you directly at fault for every consequence that follows. IE them selling you a mount for money does not mean they are selling you gold, there are mounts you can only obtain through the trading card game, does that mean that when you buy trading cards you are buying gold too?
Those mounts don't scale to your character's riding skill.
No, because the "funds" are non transferable you can't sell your mount that you bought with money for gold, the action may SAVE you money but SAVING money is not in effect SELLING you money when you buy something that SAVES it.
If you buy insurance and you need to collect on it, does that mean they were selling you "money"?
If it saves you from buying a mount on alternate characters thats all nice and good, however that is insurance, what if you never roll another character, then you are in effect not saving any money at all.
If you buy it on a low level character, then you never have to buy another mount. Even as your riding skill goes up in level.
If Blizzard sold you a code that dropped all your purchase costs by 10%, that would be the same as selling you gold. A penny saved is a penny earned.
As I said in another post - I may be mistaken on that point (about it scaling with your skill(, but that is my current understanding.
#1. Mounts cost is minimal in the game as it is, the actual cost of the riding training is way greater than the cost of the mounts.
#2. IF you buy it, and level on a low level character, IF.
#3. Yes the mount scales with your skill level, which you actually have to buy, and is greater in cost than ANY mount in the game by far. So you would be saving a microscopic amount of "gold" by buying this in game mount.
The only reason you would buy this mount is to actually have a cool looking flying horse. You wouldn't be buying it to "save money on my alt" because again the amount of gold you save is tiny.
5000 + 250 + 50 + 4 gold is the amount of money you would need for TRAINING.
100 + 50 + 10 + 1 gold is how much all the mounts combined would cost you.
In other words you would be only saving yourself 161 gold by paying 25 REAL dollars, 161 gold which you can earn in less than an hour easily.
It is not selling gold because the amount of gold you would be buying would literally be only 161 gold!
You would STILL need to farm up 5304 gold for all the mount training!
edit: for added effect thats nearly 33 TIMES more gold!
That is the question though, where ARE they going with their business model? Everyone has been speculating wildly on what they will sell next without any facts.
We have no idea WHERE they are going, unless you are merely opposed to them selling mounts for 25 bucks each, in that case I personally disagree with that stand point. I feel that ANY item that does not give you an advantage in game is fair game to be purchased at a cash shop. Its reasonable.
The argument that Doubter made saying that buying it is like buying gold is ridiculous. What if you go buy a soda from the corner store and the store owner goes out and buys Crystal Meth and dies, are you killing him?
Your action, buying a mount, does not make you directly at fault for every consequence that follows. IE them selling you a mount for money does not mean they are selling you gold, there are mounts you can only obtain through the trading card game, does that mean that when you buy trading cards you are buying gold too?
No, because the "funds" are non transferable you can't sell your mount that you bought with money for gold, the action may SAVE you money but SAVING money is not in effect SELLING you money when you buy something that SAVES it.
If you buy insurance and you need to collect on it, does that mean they were selling you "money"?
If it saves you from buying a mount on alternate characters thats all nice and good, however that is insurance, what if you never roll another character, then you are in effect not saving any money at all.
I'm not exactly sure why you're asking me about Doubters points, or how you're relating it to my post, so i can't really comment on that.
Anyway, your first question was a good one. Where are they going with it? Who knows, but something has to be biting them on the back of the neck right about now. If not, there's at least a little voice saying, what would we get for an epic item or a tiered armor set..
You know it, I know it, we all know it. That's not to say they would go that far, it's just hard to believe they haven't thought about it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
After much deliberation I have decided this is a good thing.
This is the begining of the end for WoW, the money men just will not be able to stop themselves. WoW RIP thank god.
No. It won't stop with WoW. It will infect the industry.
It will infect it only as much as it already has and will, this action will not make any difference to that as it had already begun. Look STO they sold half the game in their cash shop while having a sub. If Activision want to fleece their subscribers let them, it will only be a matter of time. Here's hoping they hurry up and put new classes in the shop.
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I'm not exactly sure why you're asking me about Doubters points, or how you're relating it to my post, so i can't really comment on that.
Anyway, your first question was a good one. Where are they going with it? Who knows, but something has to be biting them on the back of the neck right about now. If not, there's at least a little voice saying, what would we get for an epic item or a tiered armor set..
You know it, I know it, we all know it. That's not to say they would go that far, it's just hard to believe they haven't thought about it.
Sorry was responding to two posts at the same time, I did not want to double post.
Edit: oh and I agree with you, if they start selling gear and screw up their game I will be outraged too, however I'm merely siding on the side of patience, I believe they will NOT step over that line.
Maybe I am naive, maybe others are paranoid, time will ultimately decide the outcome.
Is that true? Really, it doesn't seem to be. As doesn't this mount only travel as fast as your fastest mount? Which would mean to go faster you would need to purchase additional mounts.
My understanding is that it scales to your skill - so you still have to learn the skill (which is the far greater cost), but not the new mount.
I could be wrong on this.
I'm not really sure myself, I've seen it stated as such a few times though, I could be wrong too.
It does scale to the highest mount, but if you have epic flying training. Which usually allows you to go 280%, because most of the epic flyers are 280, this mount allows you to go 310% speed, which is like the ultra rare drops, and the arena mount.
So it is a tad more than fluff.
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#1. Mounts cost is minimal in the game as it is, the actual cost of the riding training is way greater than the cost of the mounts.
#2. IF you buy it, and level on a low level character, IF.
#3. Yes the mount scales with your skill level, which you actually have to buy, and is greater in cost than ANY mount in the game by far. So you would be saving a microscopic amount of "gold" by buying this in game mount.
The only reason you would buy this mount is to actually have a cool looking flying horse. You wouldn't be buying it to "save money on my alt" because again the amount of gold you save is tiny.
5000 + 250 + 50 + 4 gold is the amount of money you would need for TRAINING.
100 + 50 + 10 + 1 gold is how much all the mounts combined would cost you.
In other words you would be only saving yourself 161 gold by paying 25 REAL dollars, 161 gold which you can earn in less than an hour easily.
It is not selling gold because the amount of gold you would be buying would literally be only 161 gold!
You would STILL need to farm up 5304 gold for all the mount training!
edit: for added effect thats nearly 33 TIMES more gold!
161 gold - for every character on the account. All you are arguing is how much gold Blizzard has sold you. Not that they have sold you gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
It does scale to the highest mount, but if you have epic flying training. Which usually allows you to go 280%, because most of the epic flyers are 280, this mount allows you to go 310% speed, which is like the ultra rare drops, and the arena mount.
So it is a tad more than fluff.
You have to already have a 310% speed mount for it to be 310% speed, meaning you'd still have to have achieved something very difficult to fly that speed. More difficult than paying 25 bucks.
After much deliberation I have decided this is a good thing.
This is the begining of the end for WoW, the money men just will not be able to stop themselves. WoW RIP thank god.
It won't end wow.
It will just disenfranchise those who wouldn't play because of such things and make it easier for players who do want such things to come into the fold.
this is one place where I agree with mmo_doubter. I believe there is medication for this. It will affect the industry. Where WoW goes a lot of other companies will soon follow.
I've always been pretty indifferent to fluff items or mounts in cash shops and I still am.
However, it is one place where game companies are going to have to tread carefully.
Look I agree, but there is absolutely no point in raging against something that WILL happen anyway. All you can do is make sure (with your wallet) that games that vere away from this kind of thinking make a place in the market for those that really want to play the game rather than buy their way through it.
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It does scale to the highest mount, but if you have epic flying training. Which usually allows you to go 280%, because most of the epic flyers are 280, this mount allows you to go 310% speed, which is like the ultra rare drops, and the arena mount.
So it is a tad more than fluff.
You have to already have a 310% speed mount for it to be 310% speed, meaning you'd still have to have achieved something very difficult to fly that speed. More difficult than paying 25 bucks.
LOL, my head is spinning now, so it is based off what mounts you previously own?
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#1. Mounts cost is minimal in the game as it is, the actual cost of the riding training is way greater than the cost of the mounts.
#2. IF you buy it, and level on a low level character, IF.
#3. Yes the mount scales with your skill level, which you actually have to buy, and is greater in cost than ANY mount in the game by far. So you would be saving a microscopic amount of "gold" by buying this in game mount.
The only reason you would buy this mount is to actually have a cool looking flying horse. You wouldn't be buying it to "save money on my alt" because again the amount of gold you save is tiny.
5000 + 250 + 50 + 4 gold is the amount of money you would need for TRAINING.
100 + 50 + 10 + 1 gold is how much all the mounts combined would cost you.
In other words you would be only saving yourself 161 gold by paying 25 REAL dollars, 161 gold which you can earn in less than an hour easily.
It is not selling gold because the amount of gold you would be buying would literally be only 161 gold!
You would STILL need to farm up 5304 gold for all the mount training!
edit: for added effect thats nearly 33 TIMES more gold!
161 gold - for every character on the account. All you are arguing is how much gold Blizzard has sold you. Not that they have sold you gold.
What if you have all your characters at max level already? Like I'm sure many people do?
I quit WoW recently for an unrelated reason, however I already had 4 80s and no need or desire to level any other alt characters. I'm sure I'm not the only one as I played with many people who were just as far along as I was.
161 gold LITERALLY takes less than an hour to make. I made 40k in a week to be able to buy my Shadow's Edge.
I'd also like to mention that you don't even need to buy those mounts AT ALL!
On my last toon I leveled to 80, my druid, I never bought him a single mount! Meaning buying this mount would have saved me 0 gold.
Basically it all comes down to Time or Money which of more do you have and which do you value more. It seems that people are having less time to play but more money they are willing to spend on games which IMO is bad. Aren't games made to be played, not bought and the game plays its self for you?
This is one reasoning I don't buy into. As whether they paid rl cash for their mount or not, bought their toon on Ebay, or turned tricks for epics, they're for the most part still playing the game occasionally. Whether they're PVPing, running dungeons, crafting or simply dancing in a tavern, they're doing so to have fun. Regardless of the means in which they aquired their items. That is why they paid for them afterall, so they could enjoy the game more.
Yes most of the game is being played by them but this mount is something they could have easly just added in the game for people to get. But instead they just decided to charge 25 bucks for it, and if you want it you are Forced to buy it. From what I read you can't get that mount in game, only from the cash shop. But also I guess its just a reskin of the hardest mount to get in the game. I would be hella pissed if someone who was rich could just go out and basically buy the same mount I worked my ass off to get in game.
In a MMO things you get should have to do with the game its self, letting outside influences like spending real life money for items that you should be earning in game just fucks everything up.
Person A works their ass off in RL but also works their ass off in Game to get a mount, gets it feels good that they worked hard to get it. Person B also works their ass off in RL but makes more money than person A. Since they have the money they spend 25 bucks on pretty much same mount that person A worked their ass off in game for.
Games shouldn't be about what your willing to spend even though its just a stupid different looking mount. I bet Blizz will start taking things a step further as in selling reskins of armor that look way cooler. Granted it won't make anyones stats better but to get it you are Forced to buy it. If that happens the more money you have the more cooler looking stuff you'll have which is completely fucking retarded.
This type of thing needs to stop now before it gets out of hand. Its kinda like the frog starting off in the cold water. If you turn it up slowly it will be dead before it even knows it.
It does scale to the highest mount, but if you have epic flying training. Which usually allows you to go 280%, because most of the epic flyers are 280, this mount allows you to go 310% speed, which is like the ultra rare drops, and the arena mount.
So it is a tad more than fluff.
You have to already have a 310% speed mount for it to be 310% speed, meaning you'd still have to have achieved something very difficult to fly that speed. More difficult than paying 25 bucks.
LOL, my head is spinning now, so it is based off what mounts you previously own?
310% speed mounts are VERY RARE!
Only a handful exist and they are all difficult and require a lot of effort to get.
Every other speed of mount you train from an NPC.
So unless you already have earned the 310% speed by owning one of the mounts that has that speed attached to it, then you will never have your mount going at 310%. At least until you have earned it.
It does scale to the highest mount, but if you have epic flying training. Which usually allows you to go 280%, because most of the epic flyers are 280, this mount allows you to go 310% speed, which is like the ultra rare drops, and the arena mount.
So it is a tad more than fluff.
You have to already have a 310% speed mount for it to be 310% speed, meaning you'd still have to have achieved something very difficult to fly that speed. More difficult than paying 25 bucks.
LOL, my head is spinning now, so it is based off what mounts you previously own?
yes, based off your fastest current mount speed.
Also I should add, they changed the cost of mounts quite some time ago. Mounts are dirt cheap, 50 gold for your flying mount.. 100 gold for your epic flyer. Its the skill that cost a lot of gold, and like was already discussed if you dont have the skill you dont have the mount.
Im personally glad to see things shifting like this. So many times you see it being discussed whether or not we'll see sub prices increase. I dont think it will happen for a long time so long as theres cash shops.
"Freshly born from the Twisting Nether, the Celestial Steed flying mount lets you travel in style astride wings of pure elemental stardust. So saddle up, because this supernatural warhorse will fly as fast as your riding skill will take you, and it will travel at 310% speed if you have at least one other 310% mount.
Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game mount key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."
It is unclear HOW it works from this. It definitley applies to all characters on your account - current and future.
I am still not clear on how the scaling works.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
"Freshly born from the Twisting Nether, the Celestial Steed flying mount lets you travel in style astride wings of pure elemental stardust. So saddle up, because this supernatural warhorse will fly as fast as your riding skill will take you, and it will travel at 310% speed if you have at least one other 310% mount.
Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game mount key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."
It is unclear HOW it works from this. It definitley applies to all characters on your account - current and future.
I am still not clear on how the scaling works.
When you train the riding skill level you unlock that skill in your skill book, when its unlocked your Celestial Steed will now move at the higher riding skill level when you summon him.
Here is a list of the riding skill levels, their cost, and how to obtain them ect.
Edit: there are already several mounts that work the same way, the Headless Horseman's Horse for instance is a drop only at halloween however it's speed scales with your top available speed.
"Freshly born from the Twisting Nether, the Celestial Steed flying mount lets you travel in style astride wings of pure elemental stardust. So saddle up, because this supernatural warhorse will fly as fast as your riding skill will take you, and it will travel at 310% speed if you have at least one other 310% mount.
Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game mount key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."
It is unclear HOW it works from this. It definitley applies to all characters on your account - current and future.
I am still not clear on how the scaling works.
The scaling is simple. Once you learn to ride a slow ground mount at level 20, you can ride this mount. As you increase your riding skills, the mount will automatically scale up with your riding skill. So at level 20 the mount will be a 60% speed ground mount, at 40 it can become a 100% speed ground mount, at 60 it can become a 150% speed flying mount, at 70 it can become a 280% speed flying mount, in Northrend you can fly with it after you learn cold-weather flying, and if you happened to own or obtain a 310% speed flying mount (very rare) then the celestial steed will become a 310% flyer.
You still have to purchase each level of new riding skill, but you'll never have to purchase another mount for alts.
Also, the mount is automatically mailed to every single character on your account and is automatically mailed whenever you make a new character (just tested creating a new character personally, at the time of the writing).
If she bought a WOW T-shirt, she should feel guilty wearing it because you couldn't buy one?
you are missing the point
It's merchandise, you aren't forced to buy it.
you are missing the point
If someone has the funds to get what most players have the time to get, then so be it.
you are missing the point
My wife is a mom, an employee and a volunteer. She can pull off getting this mount with out being a child living in their parent's basement playing 12 hours a day to get all the cool things.
ok so here is my point..... i hate this game more and more because of this crap because:
it used to be a great game, and EARNING things like mounts gave you a sense of accomplishment. I grinded my ASS off earning money to get my mount, and now they basically just give them away 20 levels lower, or in this case you can just pay real money for it and they give it to you. Where is the challenge in that? How much longer till you can just buy gear off the website and have the upper hand just because you make more money then some of the players?
the game used to be fun untill tons of noobs started whining that everything was too hard... now they just hand you everything on a platter. Including levels.
That is my point, and i do not care if you don't agree with it. I'm sure the fanboi's will just flame away anyways cause they are in denial.
My 4.0 college GPA gives me a sense of accomplishment not some grouping of pixels on a computer monitor.
Congratulations. But what about when you look at the pixels that make up the 4.0 GPA on your screen? They're just pixels too. Oh, it's not the pixels after all is it? It's what you did on the way to the goal. Same for special mounts or items in the game that took effort.
Education and good grades matter in life. Making straight A's is a personal choice as an individual with a 3.6 GPA or even as low as a 3.0 may be open to just as many opportunities as I am, but the point is that value and a sense of personal achievement should be placed upon things which actually matter in life.
I too enjoy obtaining rare, hard to find items that take quite a bit of effort and dedication to find, but at the end of the day, a video game is a video game and outside of the World of Warcraft, those achievements mean absolutely nothing at all. They mean nothing to my mother, my father, my grandmother, my sister, my brother, my college adviser, my Western Civilization professor, or anyone else other than people I have met inside of a video game.
With all the problems in the world today, a flying horse for sale in an MMO cash shop that in no way gives any player an advantage over the next guy is nothing to concern ones self with and should not be the source of such hurt pride which it seems to be for so many people. I'm sorry if I can't find sympathy that you're e-pride has been damaged.
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No. It won't stop with WoW. It will infect the industry.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
This most certainly is a fluff item. Sorry if you can't understand that.
As to you assertation that it is gold buying, you are really stretching an argument to the max to get there.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think you can see that the majority of posters disagree with you.
It won't end wow.
It will just disenfranchise those who wouldn't play because of such things and make it easier for players who do want such things to come into the fold.
this is one place where I agree with mmo_doubter. It will affect the industry. Where WoW goes a lot of other companies will soon follow.
I've always been pretty indifferent to fluff items or mounts in cash shops and I still am.
However, it is one place where game companies are going to have to tread carefully.
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What I am wondering is whether the cash mount will scale up to level 300 if you have the skill, but haven't bought a mount of that level. Given the point about the 310% speed - I gather that I was right about the automatic scaling. Which implies that owning this mount means you will never have to buy another mount on that account. A substancial saving in gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
#1. Mounts cost is minimal in the game as it is, the actual cost of the riding training is way greater than the cost of the mounts.
#2. IF you buy it, and level on a low level character, IF.
#3. Yes the mount scales with your skill level, which you actually have to buy, and is greater in cost than ANY mount in the game by far. So you would be saving a microscopic amount of "gold" by buying this in game mount.
The only reason you would buy this mount is to actually have a cool looking flying horse. You wouldn't be buying it to "save money on my alt" because again the amount of gold you save is tiny.
5000 + 250 + 50 + 4 gold is the amount of money you would need for TRAINING.
100 + 50 + 10 + 1 gold is how much all the mounts combined would cost you.
In other words you would be only saving yourself 161 gold by paying 25 REAL dollars, 161 gold which you can earn in less than an hour easily.
It is not selling gold because the amount of gold you would be buying would literally be only 161 gold!
You would STILL need to farm up 5304 gold for all the mount training!
edit: for added effect thats nearly 33 TIMES more gold!
I'm not exactly sure why you're asking me about Doubters points, or how you're relating it to my post, so i can't really comment on that.
Anyway, your first question was a good one. Where are they going with it? Who knows, but something has to be biting them on the back of the neck right about now. If not, there's at least a little voice saying, what would we get for an epic item or a tiered armor set..
You know it, I know it, we all know it. That's not to say they would go that far, it's just hard to believe they haven't thought about it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It will infect it only as much as it already has and will, this action will not make any difference to that as it had already begun. Look STO they sold half the game in their cash shop while having a sub. If Activision want to fleece their subscribers let them, it will only be a matter of time. Here's hoping they hurry up and put new classes in the shop.
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Sorry was responding to two posts at the same time, I did not want to double post.
Edit: oh and I agree with you, if they start selling gear and screw up their game I will be outraged too, however I'm merely siding on the side of patience, I believe they will NOT step over that line.
Maybe I am naive, maybe others are paranoid, time will ultimately decide the outcome.
So it is a tad more than fluff.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
161 gold - for every character on the account. All you are arguing is how much gold Blizzard has sold you. Not that they have sold you gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
You have to already have a 310% speed mount for it to be 310% speed, meaning you'd still have to have achieved something very difficult to fly that speed. More difficult than paying 25 bucks.
Look I agree, but there is absolutely no point in raging against something that WILL happen anyway. All you can do is make sure (with your wallet) that games that vere away from this kind of thinking make a place in the market for those that really want to play the game rather than buy their way through it.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
LOL, my head is spinning now, so it is based off what mounts you previously own?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
What if you have all your characters at max level already? Like I'm sure many people do?
I quit WoW recently for an unrelated reason, however I already had 4 80s and no need or desire to level any other alt characters. I'm sure I'm not the only one as I played with many people who were just as far along as I was.
161 gold LITERALLY takes less than an hour to make. I made 40k in a week to be able to buy my Shadow's Edge.
I'd also like to mention that you don't even need to buy those mounts AT ALL!
On my last toon I leveled to 80, my druid, I never bought him a single mount! Meaning buying this mount would have saved me 0 gold.
Yes most of the game is being played by them but this mount is something they could have easly just added in the game for people to get. But instead they just decided to charge 25 bucks for it, and if you want it you are Forced to buy it. From what I read you can't get that mount in game, only from the cash shop. But also I guess its just a reskin of the hardest mount to get in the game. I would be hella pissed if someone who was rich could just go out and basically buy the same mount I worked my ass off to get in game.
In a MMO things you get should have to do with the game its self, letting outside influences like spending real life money for items that you should be earning in game just fucks everything up.
Person A works their ass off in RL but also works their ass off in Game to get a mount, gets it feels good that they worked hard to get it. Person B also works their ass off in RL but makes more money than person A. Since they have the money they spend 25 bucks on pretty much same mount that person A worked their ass off in game for.
Games shouldn't be about what your willing to spend even though its just a stupid different looking mount. I bet Blizz will start taking things a step further as in selling reskins of armor that look way cooler. Granted it won't make anyones stats better but to get it you are Forced to buy it. If that happens the more money you have the more cooler looking stuff you'll have which is completely fucking retarded.
This type of thing needs to stop now before it gets out of hand. Its kinda like the frog starting off in the cold water. If you turn it up slowly it will be dead before it even knows it.
310% speed mounts are VERY RARE!
Only a handful exist and they are all difficult and require a lot of effort to get.
Every other speed of mount you train from an NPC.
So unless you already have earned the 310% speed by owning one of the mounts that has that speed attached to it, then you will never have your mount going at 310%. At least until you have earned it.
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yes, based off your fastest current mount speed.
Also I should add, they changed the cost of mounts quite some time ago. Mounts are dirt cheap, 50 gold for your flying mount.. 100 gold for your epic flyer. Its the skill that cost a lot of gold, and like was already discussed if you dont have the skill you dont have the mount.
Im personally glad to see things shifting like this. So many times you see it being discussed whether or not we'll see sub prices increase. I dont think it will happen for a long time so long as theres cash shops.
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000942
"Freshly born from the Twisting Nether, the Celestial Steed flying mount lets you travel in style astride wings of pure elemental stardust. So saddle up, because this supernatural warhorse will fly as fast as your riding skill will take you, and it will travel at 310% speed if you have at least one other 310% mount.
Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game mount key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."
It is unclear HOW it works from this. It definitley applies to all characters on your account - current and future.
I am still not clear on how the scaling works.
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Yesterday I saw this mount in-game from a couple of players. To be honest I prefer the flying dragons. Taurens look weird mounting this lol.
When you train the riding skill level you unlock that skill in your skill book, when its unlocked your Celestial Steed will now move at the higher riding skill level when you summon him.
Here is a list of the riding skill levels, their cost, and how to obtain them ect.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Mount
Edit: there are already several mounts that work the same way, the Headless Horseman's Horse for instance is a drop only at halloween however it's speed scales with your top available speed.
edite: nevermind
The scaling is simple. Once you learn to ride a slow ground mount at level 20, you can ride this mount. As you increase your riding skills, the mount will automatically scale up with your riding skill. So at level 20 the mount will be a 60% speed ground mount, at 40 it can become a 100% speed ground mount, at 60 it can become a 150% speed flying mount, at 70 it can become a 280% speed flying mount, in Northrend you can fly with it after you learn cold-weather flying, and if you happened to own or obtain a 310% speed flying mount (very rare) then the celestial steed will become a 310% flyer.
You still have to purchase each level of new riding skill, but you'll never have to purchase another mount for alts.
Also, the mount is automatically mailed to every single character on your account and is automatically mailed whenever you make a new character (just tested creating a new character personally, at the time of the writing).
Education and good grades matter in life. Making straight A's is a personal choice as an individual with a 3.6 GPA or even as low as a 3.0 may be open to just as many opportunities as I am, but the point is that value and a sense of personal achievement should be placed upon things which actually matter in life.
I too enjoy obtaining rare, hard to find items that take quite a bit of effort and dedication to find, but at the end of the day, a video game is a video game and outside of the World of Warcraft, those achievements mean absolutely nothing at all. They mean nothing to my mother, my father, my grandmother, my sister, my brother, my college adviser, my Western Civilization professor, or anyone else other than people I have met inside of a video game.
With all the problems in the world today, a flying horse for sale in an MMO cash shop that in no way gives any player an advantage over the next guy is nothing to concern ones self with and should not be the source of such hurt pride which it seems to be for so many people. I'm sorry if I can't find sympathy that you're e-pride has been damaged.
stupid kids