Honestly there was a time when I hated gold buyers and the items associated with it. Back in the younger days of EQ, when some scrub tank buys gold on line and gets a BoC. Free snap aggro for someone who doesn't get the ins and outs of tanking. That crap bugged me. This is different, it doesn't make the player better, doesn't effect their stats, doesn't effect anything other than something they liked enough to say hey, 25 bucks isn't that bad for something that makes me feel happy when I take off. Yeah, I'll actually back the folks buying this if they have the money and want it bad enough. Your enjoying the game, not cheating imho.
The scaling is simple. Once you learn to ride a slow ground mount at level 20, you can ride this mount. As you increase your riding skills, the mount will automatically scale up with your riding skill. So at level 20 the mount will be a 60% speed ground mount, at 40 it can become a 100% speed ground mount, at 60 it can become a 150% speed flying mount, at 70 it can become a 280% speed flying mount, in Northrend you can fly with it after you learn cold-weather flying, and if you happened to own or obtain a 310% speed flying mount (very rare) then the celestial steed will become a 310% flyer.
You still have to purchase each level of new riding skill, but you'll never have to purchase another mount for alts.
Also, the mount is automatically mailed to every single character on your account and is automatically mailed whenever you make a new character (just tested creating a new character personally, at the time of the writing).
Ah, then it is just as I suggested.
Blizzard is effectively selling gold. It might be 161 or less per character, but it is gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Honestly there was a time when I hated gold buyers and the items associated with it. Back in the younger days of EQ, when some scrub tank buys gold on line and gets a BoC. Free snap aggro for someone who doesn't get the ins and outs of tanking. That crap bugged me. This is different, it doesn't make the player better, doesn't effect their stats, doesn't effect anything other than something they liked enough to say hey, 25 bucks isn't that bad for something that makes me feel happy when I take off. Yeah, I'll actually back the folks buying this if they have the money and want it bad enough. Your enjoying the game, not cheating imho.
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Are you saying you don't hate gold selling now? Now that Blizzard is doing it?
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Honestly there was a time when I hated gold buyers and the items associated with it. Back in the younger days of EQ, when some scrub tank buys gold on line and gets a BoC. Free snap aggro for someone who doesn't get the ins and outs of tanking. That crap bugged me. This is different, it doesn't make the player better, doesn't effect their stats, doesn't effect anything other than something they liked enough to say hey, 25 bucks isn't that bad for something that makes me feel happy when I take off. Yeah, I'll actually back the folks buying this if they have the money and want it bad enough. Your enjoying the game, not cheating imho.
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Are you saying you don't hate gold selling now? Now that Blizzard is doing it?
No, I can't say I don't hate it still, I still hold grudges heh. Trust me, I have no real love for Blizzard's WoW, but buying a mount from the corporation that is producing said item is in the same ball park to me as someone that buys a WoW Trading Card for a mini pet or a mount that way. The only difference is the process of chance in getting the item. This is garenteed. The 3rd party is not gaining income from this transaction now it went directly to the producer of the product. It's their item, if they wish it sold they get the choice to offer it. Hope that makes since, did in my head.
No, I can't say I don't hate it still, I still hold grudges heh. Trust me, I have no real love for Blizzard's WoW, but buying a mount from the corporation that is producing said item is in the same ball park to me as someone that buys a WoW Trading Card for a mini pet or a mount that way. The only difference is the process of chance in getting the item. This is garenteed. The 3rd party is not gaining income from this transaction now it went directly to the producer of the product. It's their item, if they wish it sold they get the choice to offer it. Hope that makes since, did in my head.
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That sounds like a "yes" to my question. It's okay if Blizzard is selling the gold.
By doing so, they are giving a competitive advantage to some players for RL money. I admit it's pretty clever how they arranged it. I had forgotten that the mount was bind to account. That could potentially save a fan of rolling alts thousands of gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
it's beacause of things like this that make me hate this game even more... now you don't even have to earn anything, you can just buy your mount off the internet....
After spending countless hours hunting (unsuccessfully) for the wretched Time-Lost Proto-Drake, your idea definition of "earning" seems to have a striking resemblance my definition of "masochistic grind-fest".
I'm a big fan of fluff and were I still playing WoW, I'd give serious consideration to picking up this mount simply for it's aesthetic value. It would be a stretch though since that's still a steep price to pay for fluff. I'm not against the idea of item shops that rape the wallets of tinsel junkies like me, so long as there's nothing offered there that gives my fellow players a leg up on me in gameplay. Quite simply, I'd lose any arms race that pitted my financial status against a true, slack-jawed fanboi, so it's not a contest I'd choose to participate in. But for fluff? Have at Blizzard ... I hope you use some of those funds to make the next expansion 1.38% more impressive.
No, I can't say I don't hate it still, I still hold grudges heh. Trust me, I have no real love for Blizzard's WoW, but buying a mount from the corporation that is producing said item is in the same ball park to me as someone that buys a WoW Trading Card for a mini pet or a mount that way. The only difference is the process of chance in getting the item. This is garenteed. The 3rd party is not gaining income from this transaction now it went directly to the producer of the product. It's their item, if they wish it sold they get the choice to offer it. Hope that makes since, did in my head.
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That sounds like a "yes" to my question. It's okay if Blizzard is selling the gold.
By doing so, they are giving a competitive advantage to some players for RL money. I admit it's pretty clever how they arranged it. I had forgotten that the mount was bind to account. That could potentially save a fan of rolling alts thousands of gold.
It wont as you still have to learn riding skills and which cost most of money. So you got first 40% mount and if you buy 100% mount skill you receive a 100% mount and so on till flying mounts. You get only upgraded version after you buy the skill. In fact you dont save a lot of gold.
Blizz isn't selling gold, it's selling a vanity mount for $25. I can't believe the anger and gloom and doom. Is this the way this site usually is? I am new to posting, I have no idea. Anyone who gets upset when they see those horses likely are playing too much.
Blizz isn't selling gold, it's selling a vanity mount for $25.
That mount is for every character on your account present and future. It also scales automatically, so you never have to buy another mount for any of your characters again.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Blizz isn't selling gold, it's selling a vanity mount for $25. I can't believe the anger and gloom and doom. Is this the way this site usually is? I am new to posting, I have no idea. Anyone who gets upset when they see those horses likely are playing too much.
People are freaking out over other people spending 25 bucks on something meaningless and useless they wish they had, but can't afford. I other news, hotly debated on sites with similar demographics as this one, Britney Spears has posted un-edited pictures of herself.
I did. Read it again. You bought an item that saves you from having to buy mounts in the future. So, you are getting a money advantage in game from a cash purchase.
A mount is not a fluff item.
Unless you feel the need to never buy another mount after the purchase of the steed, your statement is incorrect. Blizzard is always coming up with new mounts all the time, this just happens to be the latest. The future of mounts may have new cosumizable features like selectable armor. I seriously doubt they will change all current mounts in the game for features like that, especially when it is much easier to design new ones from scratch.
How long until this mount is just another common in the game and people loose interest. Most mounts in the past were a "OMG, I MUST have that!!!", but they are nothing more than accessories at this point. The interest in farming for the Ashes of Al'ar are not what they used to be. So long as Blizzard does not release an "end-all, be-all" of mounts, people will always want the latest and greatest.
Is that true? Really, it doesn't seem to be. As doesn't this mount only travel as fast as your fastest mount? Which would mean to go faster you would need to purchase additional mounts.
My understanding is that it scales to your skill - so you still have to learn the skill (which is the far greater cost), but not the new mount.
I could be wrong on this.
I'm not really sure myself, I've seen it stated as such a few times though, I could be wrong too.
It does scale with your current skill. As in, if you have you fastest usable mount with a speed of 280%, the steed will not top that. It will only go 310% if you currently have a 310% mount.
People are totally overreacting to this mostly because everyone loves to jump on the hatewagon because they think it makes them cool, so you can pretty much discount every negative thing people say about stuff like this because of that. The con arguments make no logical sense that I can see.
I would much rather companies like Blizzard do things like sell fluff items in an item shop than abandon supporting and creating the classic MMOGs model games like WoW, EQ, LORTO, etc for making Facebook games like Farmville... This stuff for the most part takes almost no design resources and has no impact on anyones gameplay to speak of. The bottom line is, they are in this to make money. If they can make significantly more money from making crappy facebook games then I imagine they will abandon making expansive and expensive MMOGs like WoW and just concentrate on Farmville clones.
I think we can all agree how much that would suck whether we agree about this particular subject or not...
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Blizz isn't selling gold, it's selling a vanity mount for $25.
That mount is for every character on your account present and future. It also scales automatically, so you never have to buy another mount for any of your characters again.
Well yes...
But you do realize that the major mount related expense for a character in WoW, for almost 4 years now, is the skill to ride the mount? The actual cost of the" for sale from vendor" mounts these days is all but negligable. It's not like WoW at release where the mount itself cost 500 gold (an awesome sum back then).
So for $25 your newb Belf can ride something other than a chicken. Pure 100% fluff.
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Honestly there was a time when I hated gold buyers and the items associated with it. Back in the younger days of EQ, when some scrub tank buys gold on line and gets a BoC. Free snap aggro for someone who doesn't get the ins and outs of tanking. That crap bugged me. This is different, it doesn't make the player better, doesn't effect their stats, doesn't effect anything other than something they liked enough to say hey, 25 bucks isn't that bad for something that makes me feel happy when I take off. Yeah, I'll actually back the folks buying this if they have the money and want it bad enough. Your enjoying the game, not cheating imho.
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Ah, then it is just as I suggested.
Blizzard is effectively selling gold. It might be 161 or less per character, but it is gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Are you saying you don't hate gold selling now? Now that Blizzard is doing it?
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
No, I can't say I don't hate it still, I still hold grudges heh. Trust me, I have no real love for Blizzard's WoW, but buying a mount from the corporation that is producing said item is in the same ball park to me as someone that buys a WoW Trading Card for a mini pet or a mount that way. The only difference is the process of chance in getting the item. This is garenteed. The 3rd party is not gaining income from this transaction now it went directly to the producer of the product. It's their item, if they wish it sold they get the choice to offer it. Hope that makes since, did in my head.
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~V
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
That sounds like a "yes" to my question. It's okay if Blizzard is selling the gold.
By doing so, they are giving a competitive advantage to some players for RL money. I admit it's pretty clever how they arranged it. I had forgotten that the mount was bind to account. That could potentially save a fan of rolling alts thousands of gold.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
After spending countless hours hunting (unsuccessfully) for the wretched Time-Lost Proto-Drake, your idea definition of "earning" seems to have a striking resemblance my definition of "masochistic grind-fest".
I'm a big fan of fluff and were I still playing WoW, I'd give serious consideration to picking up this mount simply for it's aesthetic value. It would be a stretch though since that's still a steep price to pay for fluff. I'm not against the idea of item shops that rape the wallets of tinsel junkies like me, so long as there's nothing offered there that gives my fellow players a leg up on me in gameplay. Quite simply, I'd lose any arms race that pitted my financial status against a true, slack-jawed fanboi, so it's not a contest I'd choose to participate in. But for fluff? Have at Blizzard ... I hope you use some of those funds to make the next expansion 1.38% more impressive.
It wont as you still have to learn riding skills and which cost most of money. So you got first 40% mount and if you buy 100% mount skill you receive a 100% mount and so on till flying mounts. You get only upgraded version after you buy the skill. In fact you dont save a lot of gold.
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Blizz isn't selling gold, it's selling a vanity mount for $25. I can't believe the anger and gloom and doom. Is this the way this site usually is? I am new to posting, I have no idea. Anyone who gets upset when they see those horses likely are playing too much.
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That mount is for every character on your account present and future. It also scales automatically, so you never have to buy another mount for any of your characters again.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Nice mount
But only 280% fly ...
People are freaking out over other people spending 25 bucks on something meaningless and useless they wish they had, but can't afford. I other news, hotly debated on sites with similar demographics as this one, Britney Spears has posted un-edited pictures of herself.
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Unless you feel the need to never buy another mount after the purchase of the steed, your statement is incorrect. Blizzard is always coming up with new mounts all the time, this just happens to be the latest. The future of mounts may have new cosumizable features like selectable armor. I seriously doubt they will change all current mounts in the game for features like that, especially when it is much easier to design new ones from scratch.
How long until this mount is just another common in the game and people loose interest. Most mounts in the past were a "OMG, I MUST have that!!!", but they are nothing more than accessories at this point. The interest in farming for the Ashes of Al'ar are not what they used to be. So long as Blizzard does not release an "end-all, be-all" of mounts, people will always want the latest and greatest.
It does scale with your current skill. As in, if you have you fastest usable mount with a speed of 280%, the steed will not top that. It will only go 310% if you currently have a 310% mount.
People are totally overreacting to this mostly because everyone loves to jump on the hatewagon because they think it makes them cool, so you can pretty much discount every negative thing people say about stuff like this because of that. The con arguments make no logical sense that I can see.
I would much rather companies like Blizzard do things like sell fluff items in an item shop than abandon supporting and creating the classic MMOGs model games like WoW, EQ, LORTO, etc for making Facebook games like Farmville... This stuff for the most part takes almost no design resources and has no impact on anyones gameplay to speak of. The bottom line is, they are in this to make money. If they can make significantly more money from making crappy facebook games then I imagine they will abandon making expansive and expensive MMOGs like WoW and just concentrate on Farmville clones.
I think we can all agree how much that would suck whether we agree about this particular subject or not...
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Well yes...
But you do realize that the major mount related expense for a character in WoW, for almost 4 years now, is the skill to ride the mount? The actual cost of the" for sale from vendor" mounts these days is all but negligable. It's not like WoW at release where the mount itself cost 500 gold (an awesome sum back then).
So for $25 your newb Belf can ride something other than a chicken. Pure 100% fluff.
Just to sir the pot a little -
If i wanted to buy this game today how much would I need to pay nowadays?
Mount costs more than World of Warcraft game?
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Keeping in mind that is without either of the two exp packs, so you'd have to shell out 40 more dollars to be able to get the "full game."