EVE won't ever be as big as WoW, I'm not suggesting that at all, but I'm curious as a gamer to see which of these two gaming organism/models will truly last longer (and I mean as a growing evolving system, not just the simple "servers are still online" thing).
EVE won't ever be as big as WoW, but at a certain point, WoW will be as small as EVE with EVE still kicking around with its decent niche playerbase...
It doesn't take much to design a shinier game than WoW. Many have tried, many will try, many have failed and many will fail, but at a certain point someone will eventually succeed (with a humongous investment, very competent team, and whatever it takes: we are talking about, perhaps, more than 15-20 million players). At that point, WoW will start its decline.
EVE is a niche game. It will take either many years to design a game as deep as EVE, or a huge amount of money. But no one will pour in the money it takes to do it faster (it's still a niche market) and no one will make an EVE-ish game with a moderate investment and "lag" behind eve forever (unless there is some technological breakthrough that allows some ground-breaking features like direct vessel/weapons control AND massive battles or something alike, but then it would still revolve mostly around smaller vessel dogfights, far from what EVE is about, as direct control of huge capital ships would be pointless).
Fully agree. I would have gone into the specifics you mention (as well as others) but didn't know how to do so in a way that didn't hijack the WoW forum into EVE stuff Well said.
Originally posted by Tsathoggua
Originally posted by Zeletor
Anyway, I'll bet 1 person $20 US that EVE outlasts WoW, we check back in 20 years (May 2030) and pay up.
I would do it--
but your argument is very sound and I have seen the gradual growth that has been happening in EVE...
So I am gonna keep my twenty dollars :P
Fair enough. Honestly I'm surprised nobody took my bet, you'd think that WoW had enough people confident in the uber-superiority of the game that someone would throw their money where their...well...mouth is. I was looking forward to making $20 off of someone in 20 years (which, by then would maybe be enough for me to buy a Snickers, 1 stick of a Kit Kat).
MMORPG's forums are kind of different that the official WOW ones. Because people are quite aware that they can't just win an argument by reporting a post as defamatory to WOW or Blizzard, they tend to avoid arguments that have any future ramifications. The exception, of course, is the die-hard warcraft of old Blizzard fanboys and girls who feel a remark about Activision-Blizzard has to be positive or they go all out postal.
These people exist in any community, its just that WOW has many parts in it that try to precondition you to the idea of them being there forever as top dogs, thus there are more of them.
Oh and I certainly wouldn't take that bet. WOW will be gone in under a decade. EVE is forever.
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MMORPG's forums are kind of different that the official WOW ones. Because people are quite aware that they can't just win an argument by reporting a post as defamatory to WOW or Blizzard, they tend to avoid arguments that have any future ramifications. The exception, of course, is the die-hard warcraft of old Blizzard fanboys and girls who feel a remark about Activision-Blizzard has to be positive or they go all out postal.
These people exist in any community, its just that WOW has many parts in it that try to precondition you to the idea of them being there forever as top dogs, thus there are more of them.
Oh and I certainly wouldn't take that bet. WOW will be gone in under a decade. EVE is forever.